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[–]WD23 2487 points2488 points  (173 children)

And that concludes this year's Silksong news. It was great seeing everyone. Hopefully, next year we get a release date.

[–]njott 405 points406 points  (65 children)

1310 days since the announcement of Silksong

[–]MarthePryde 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Don't give up Skeleton

[–][deleted] 91 points92 points  (1 child)

Don’t you dare go hollow

[–]Dion42o 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Holy shit seriously??

[–]EnderOfGender 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Announced in 2017 for a 2018 release

[–]Dion42o 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Times a flyin boys

[–]WiteXDan -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Tbf 3-4 years in gaming world is not that long. Duke Nuken was 12 years, Bannelord 8 years. Many other games with longer waiting time.

[–]scratchedrecord_ 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I feel like you're forgetting that Duke Nukem Forever was basically a joke in the industry for having taken so long to come out. That game really shouldn't be your litmus test for a normal development cycle.

[–]Earthborn92 34 points35 points  (13 children)

How bloody enormous is this game?

Hollow Knight had incredibly high quality content and a lot of it. Can't even imagine what Team Cherry has done with all this dev time.

[–]Accomplished_Sound28 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I hope they put it more on quality than quantity. The idea of "lots of content" is cool buy there's a limit.

[–]dadvader 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Well Hollow Knight has a lot of quantity and all of them are quality content. So I bet we gonna get both.

[–]MistakenWit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The game consists of one boss fight, honed down to a t.

[–]bzzrtbrain 6 points7 points  (0 children)

a limit for you*

i personally want to spend 100+ hours in a game made by team cherry, hollow knight is fantastic and i pray silksong is even better

[–]dewiniaid 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Team Cherry is a tiny studio (3 people when HK came out) and, as I understand it, they were hit extremely hard by COVID. That's probably at least part of the reason for the delays.

[–]-----------________- 31 points32 points  (4 children)

they were hit extremely hard by COVID

Is this something we know or something we're assuming? The smaller the studio the less of an impact covid should have had on development. More likely to have already been working from home and had fewer changes to their development process.

[–]aishik-10x 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Geoff Keighley mentioned it in an interview after chatting with the devs, but that’s only what he thinks. Maybe the studio itself wasn’t hit as hard, just the production of the game.

I know several creators have had trouble with bouncing off creative inputs during the pandemic, like Matt and Trey struggled pretty hard with their writing process and stuff.

[–]j8sadm632b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea if it's true but it could be the case that someone had to take care of family members for a prolonged period of time for whatever reason. Like if someone had to move in with an elderly relative early on because various disruptions were making normal tasks especially difficult.

And with fewer people there are fewer redundancies to handle picking up slack like that.

This all to demonstrate proof of concept that it could hypothetically be the case.

[–]grtk_brandon 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Same time next year?

[–]Soessetin 133 points134 points  (24 children)

It should be out before June 2023.

[–]Lazydusto 236 points237 points  (22 children)

The next trailer or the game?

[–]iV1rus0 126 points127 points  (15 children)

The game. Everything shown in Not-E3 Microsoft showcase back in June is due to release in 12 months -by June 2023-.

[–]Jepacor 93 points94 points  (5 children)

If you look at the infographic they showed at the end of the presentation, you'll see Silksong is nowhere to be seen tho

[–]Canadiancookie 21 points22 points  (0 children)

https://twitter.com/1xandermander/status/1536035381933658113

Would be weird if they said that while not being fairly confident in its release date

[–]llamadog007 36 points37 points  (3 children)

Probably cause they didn’t know what year to put it in

[–]R1chterScale 53 points54 points  (2 children)

Mhmm, iirc it was confirmed on Twitter that Silksong was included in the 12 months assertion

[–]MegaDethKlok 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I remember seeing that too. But, as said here, no one knows when it will ACTUALLY happen.

[–]KanchiHaruhara -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Also, let's get real... I don't imagine it was something legally binding. If they want to, they can and will release it later.

[–]Cetais 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It still can be delayed as far as I know. ://

[–]BluEyesWhitPrivilege 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wish I was as wildly optimistic as you.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Its due to release when they want to release them when they delay it they delay it. Nobody cares what ms said during a showcase.

[–]amazinglover 7 points8 points  (3 children)

You do know MS likely only included it because the developers told them to would be released before a certain date.

[–]Radulno -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Developers often set release dates that they delay later, if it's not in the next few months after the annoucenement (and it obviously wasn't in Silksong case), it's likely the targeted date was very innacurate

[–]DFrek 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The game, and probably a trailer at least

[–]Wheeler-The-Dealer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you have it reversed there.

[–]Radiator_Full_Pig 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Next news item, at this rate. I wish I could just forget about it, and hear about it the day it releases.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The announcement for the next trailer.

[–]PhoenixReborn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The release date of the trailer

[–]RyePunk -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Silly no, just the next piece of news about that trailer.

[–]PeteOverdrive 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Listen I want to believe that Xbox Showcase “12 months” line, but I suspect that even at the time they knew some titles like Silksong were “listen man it’s done when it’s done, if you want to pretend like we feel confident about June then go for it” situations

[–]cylemmulo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Maybe next year we'll get news that it's compatible with the Xbox controller on PC or something.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bold of you to assume there's news coming out next year regarding Silksong. We will probably get 3 videos from mossbag that we will treat as news.

[–]BillyBean11111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

looking forward to being 80 years old when this shit comes out

[–]NikIsImba 728 points729 points  (36 children)

At this point i assume team cherry spends most of their days brainstorming how to post news about silksong with as little information as possible

[–]hardgeeklife 85 points86 points  (2 children)

It's like when Harrison Ford leaked info about the new Star Wars

Obviously I get why the HK Fandom feels starved for information considering how silent the last couple years(?) have been. But honestly I sorta prefer it over the constant date-delay-date-delay-date-delay we get from some other studios.

Perhaps I'm just not devout enough?

[–]DeadlyTissues 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Nah, you're just a rational consumer

[–]Esper17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd like a "this is our current estimate for when we think the game will be done and we would feel confident releasing it" sort of announcement. Nothing concrete, but just an estimate to work towards. If they genuinely think it'll be 2+ years from now I would be perfectly fine with that, I'd just like something to look forward to and talk to with my friends who are excited for it as I am.

[–]The_Tallcat 60 points61 points  (29 children)

Good. I'm sick of trailers and other pre-release media showing off way too much of games.

[–]apadin1 118 points119 points  (19 children)

I agree, but that being said it would be nice to have a release date or release window, or even just a confirmation that it’s coming in 2023

[–]q1u2acker 9 points10 points  (6 children)

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[–]Bergerboy14 -1 points0 points  (10 children)

We did get confirmation, itll be out by June 2023

[–]apadin1 64 points65 points  (9 children)

That’s from Xbox, but TC has never definitively said a release window

[–]crioth 34 points35 points  (1 child)

I’m very curious on how many of those “within 12 months” games actually releases within those 12 months.

[–]TheSpiderGamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They may not have one in mind yet.

[–]justfornoatheism 45 points46 points  (1 child)

lol does a release date constitute as “showing off way too much”?

[–]ngwoo 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Yeah, they actually made March 27th 2023 the name of the final boss of Silksong and it releases on that day by complete coincidence. In hindsight it seems silly but Team Cherry knows what they're doing.

[–]kornelius_III 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Didn't know that my browser has built-in auto-play schedule for every single game trailers on the net.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

different strokes. Once I feel I have enough info I just don't watch other trailers.

[–]Jade_CarCrash 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lmao cmon dude, silksong is flat out taking the piss at this point.

[–]TizonaBlu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lol only HK fans want less information. You know, you don’t have to actually look at the stuff.

[–]PeaWordly4381 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Do you need us to call 911? Who's holding a gun to your head and forcing you to watch and read all this pre-release media?

[–]0ussel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same, but don't also trickle the smallest amount of info over a long period of time either.

[–]DirkDasterLurkMaster 323 points324 points  (1 child)

Hollow Knight: Silksong is coming

IS IT FINALLY TIME? RELEASE DATE CONFIRMED?

to PS5 and PS4

I sleep

[–]joshlamm 381 points382 points  (27 children)

Wow, they'll still be making games for the ps4 in 10 years? Impressive!

[–]WarBeard_ 137 points138 points  (7 children)

It’s a good choice, this game doesn’t need next gen hardware

[–]Pale_Taro4926 63 points64 points  (2 children)

And frankly there are tons of PS4s out there.

Although to be fair, PS5 consoles are slowly becoming easier to find in the wild without resorting to using a website to find a storefront that has inventory.

[–]pheonixblade9 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I just got mine from Playstation.com 😊

[–]JACrazy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I got mine from Walmart.com for a low price of $599. All terms and conditions apply.

[–]lobehold 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Hell my PS3 should be able to run it.

[–]Masothe 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't know about that. The silk physics are gonna be insane

[–]joshlamm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The joke is that the game will release in 10 years, not that the game will run on 10 year old hardware.

[–]BillyBean11111 20 points21 points  (1 child)

the amount of people missing this joke is pretty staggering

[–]joshlamm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was happy to see my comment was getting some traction, but then soon lost hope in humanity when I started reading the replies. Someone needs to crosspost this to r/whooosh

[–]BlueHighwindz 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Last Wii Game was Just Dance 2020 and came out on November 5, 2019. But weirdly Just Dance 2023 won't have a PS4 version.

[–]Tecally 14 points15 points  (1 child)

That’s because people bought that shit on the Wii.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly, businesses have very detailed metrics they don’t just make decisions randomly

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Sony has had 10 year life cycles for all their consoles. Also, they have a huge install base on the 4. The 5 is now approaching year 1 sales of the 4, for context.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (5 children)

The joke is that Silksong won’t be done for another ten years.

[–]joshlamm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for actually getting my joke

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I think I’ll be playing it before GTA6 when that launches on PS7.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Will Elder Scrolls 6 be out yet?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s doubtful. I think it goes Silksong, Elder Scrolls 6, then several more versions of GTA V Online, then GTA6.

[–]thexvoid 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That last sentence is complete rubbish. The ps4 sold 17.5 million units in its first year. As of june, the ps5 has sold 21.7 million units.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Meant in the second year it’s selling like PS4 did in its first year. I realize my comment didn’t make that clear. PS4 sold almost double the number of 5s sold in year 2. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Does that make more sense?

[–]braaier 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It'll release by June 2023

[–]fuckmylife193 180 points181 points  (10 children)

ps4 games in 2028? Now that's a futureproof console.

[–]hergumbules 39 points40 points  (2 children)

I’m sure Elder Scrolls VI will be releasing on it too in 2032 along with Skyrim remaster

[–]JCarterPeanutFarmer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I heard they’ll be releasing Skyrim on my immersion blender then too!

[–]GuiltyEidolon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly if I were Todd Howard, at this point I would release Skyrim on every new console possible just for the meme.

[–]ngwoo -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Nobody can find a PS5 and the ones that can can't afford it because it costs as much just to eat. PS4 is gonna be around for a long time.

[–]Radulno 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Nobody can find a PS5 and the ones that can can't afford it because it costs as much just to eat.

That is wildly exaggerated. There are 22M+ PS5 installed base. That's more than the entire Xbox (first generation) or Gamecube/WiiU sales so many people did find them (those consoles are just examples, they did not sell well but this is only the beginning). In fact, most people that put some effort in it (at least in major markets) have one if they wanted too.

While sales were slowed down because of the supply problems, there are plenty of people with a PS5.

In that case, though, it would make no sense to pass on PS4, considering the game is not graphically intensive and will run on it.

[–]tuna_pi 68 points69 points  (0 children)

I have heard more about what platforms this game is coming to than any actual information, that's kinda impressive

[–]AgitatedPossum 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Presumably this means it will release on PlayStation at the same time as everywhere else? If xbox had a timed exclusivity deal we probably wouldn't even hear about the plans for a playstation version...

[–]x--Knight--x 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Why would Xbox have it timed exclusive? We already knew it was coming to switch first

[–]xxTheGoDxx 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Its coming to PC first ;-)

[–]Dusty170 32 points33 points  (7 children)

I mean...was it ever in doubt? Its gonna come out on everything plus my toaster.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

If I'm not playing Silk song on my Smart watch in 2030, what's the point?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Hopefully it comes to GameSphere

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

leans in what's a GameSphere?

[–]ezio45 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's spherical!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Aww I even set up the bit for you 😔

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah shit I thought you genuinely wanted to know lol my bad

[–]Red-pop 95 points96 points  (55 children)

It is so baffling that after all this time they can't even narrow it down to a release window. 2023, 2024.

[–]ChrisBot8 81 points82 points  (13 children)

The last Xbox showcase said it would be out before June 2023

[–]Red-pop 70 points71 points  (12 children)

It was implied since they said "everything shown here will be out before next year's showcase", But they still didn't commit to a window by putting it in the trailer.

[–]thatnotoriousguy 73 points74 points  (3 children)

Xbox Twitter said specifically that that applied to silksong.

[–]Radulno 10 points11 points  (2 children)

It doesn't mean much though, delays happen even with a firm release date so something like that and knowing Silksong, it is very likely to mean a delay

[–]thatnotoriousguy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m taking the optimistic approach and believing that silksong wasn’t on the graphic because they don’t know if it is 22 or 23 yet.

[–]hyrule5 4 points5 points  (3 children)

It will be 150 hours long like Elden Ring (I hope)

[–]Schwarzengerman 25 points26 points  (2 children)

The first game is like 20 to 60 hours long. That's a fine length. It doesn't need to be nearly that long.

[–]hyrule5 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'll take as much Hollow Knight as I can get

[–]Thank_You_Love_You[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They already said it just keeps getting bigger so chances are its massive.

By they i think it was the play tester on twitter.

[–]gamelord12 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I've got it on my Fantasy Critic roster, and I'd really appreciate if they just confirm what year it's coming out so I can keep it or drop it.

[–]thexvoid 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Dude drop that shit. They’re still comfirming platforms as news in september, ain’t no chance it comes this year.

[–]nomoregameslol 43 points44 points  (16 children)

Are we all forgetting that Team Cherry is only three people and the game was announced before COVID?

[–]Nekopydo 72 points73 points  (9 children)

They also apparently said that Covid didn't impact development so there goes that.

[–]LoompaOompa 25 points26 points  (2 children)

I don't know why anyone would expect it to have impacted development if it's only 3 people. Even if they were all working in a shared space before the pandemic, it's not operationally difficult to get 3 people up and running in a remote context.

[–]nomoregameslol 10 points11 points  (1 child)

A commenter above noted that the team said COVID didn't impact them and I take the team's word for it. I still want to push back against that general sentiment though.

Just because a team can figure out a workplace arrangement that theoretically continues the same workflow as before, it doesn't mean that there aren't going to be other interruptions from other sources.. Family members getting sick, mental health, etc

[–]Aggrokid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think they just got giga-shooked by HK's success. So now they are in development hell making Silksong live up to expectations.

[–]Ketamine4Depression 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Likely because Team Cherry is based in Australia, which has not been affected as much by COVID

[–]TaleOfDash 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Even then it's way easier to adapt a three person team to working from home than it would be for a decently sized dev team.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Even if the entire team got infected by COVID it would just delay things a week or two

[–]shulgin11 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Are they still just 3 people after the massive success of their first game?

[–]q1u2acker 14 points15 points  (1 child)

edit: Leave reddit for a better alternative and remember to suck fpez

[–]asdiele 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They're each gonna make fucking bank when it releases, well deserved.

[–]Deadmanlex45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sure everyone understand that, but their communication since they announced the game in 2019 has been... confusing to say the least..

[–]kfuse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

While I don't know the precise number, they have expanded from only 3 people.

[–]Halucinogenije 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I could wait for this game to release in 2025 but damn, I really don't understand the silence on Team Cherry's part. I don't need trailers and shit, just post on your website or Twitter - hey guys we're working on this game still, we took a vacation etc.

[–]nomaditch 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Same. Expected it to come out around that period as well, especially because they went so silent. Maybe they wanted to have human working hours and the mystery helped keep the pressure on them low, idk.

sorry if this doesn't make sense, English is not my first language

[–]longbrodmann 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Beat the first game on both Switch and PS4, will get the PS5 version since I want to play it with a nice controller.

[–]sallenqld 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is this a sequel or an expansion?

[–]Twigling 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sequel. It started off as a DLC but the devs made the decision to expand it into a full sequel. It was originally announced in February 2019.

[–]Echowing442 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Full sequel. In the original kickstarter they planned to have a mode where you play the normal game as Hornet, but then it expanded to the point of becoming its own full game.

[–]LegatoSkyheart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but when?

[–]swizzler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, not one but two previous gen console releases? I wonder if it'll be difficult supporting the ps4, ps5, and ps6 releases all at once.

[–]DarkBomberX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude, the ending to this game is going to be revealed before a release date. Lol. Games are hard to make.

[–]katiecharm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do your thing Team Cherry / you’re making a sequel to my favorite game of all time, one of the greatest games ever made.

I will be as patient as I need to be. Thanks for the hard work.

[–]daskrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still not as bad as Radio The Universe, another Metroidvania, announced in 2012. Yes, 2012. It's not abandoned or anything, as the guy is still giving updates and everything. But wow.

[–]DL_Omega -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

But we need a release date! Or just at least say this year or next at least. And I know about the one year thing from Xbox.