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Announcement[Xbox/Bethesda 2022] Hollow Knight: Silksong (self.Games)

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Name: Hollow Knight: Silksong

Platforms: PC, Switch, Xbox One, Xbox Series

Genre: Metroidvania

Release Date: TBA

Developer: Team Cherry

Trailer: Hollow Knight: Silksong Announcement

Trailer: Game Pass Reveal Trailer

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[–]Bpbegha 1312 points1313 points  (66 children)

...No release date? :(

EDIT: Sarah Bond just said all games in the showcase will be playable in the next 12 months, so yay?

[–]sabatagol 793 points794 points  (6 children)

Then the release date will be something like 11 of June 2023 at 23:59

[–]Hispanic_Gorilla_2 229 points230 points  (5 children)

The demo

[–]bluesky_anon 32 points33 points  (2 children)

DON'T MAKE ME CRY!

[–]RAHDRIVE 24 points25 points  (0 children)

32nd December.

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      [–]shinlo18 101 points102 points  (16 children)

      Which means it's likely it still could be delayed.

      However if it was shown to begin with, it means TC probably thinks they should be done with it soon. (Hopefully before the end of the year).

      [–]Fenor 82 points83 points  (14 children)

      Tc said soon 3 years ago

      [–]SuperRayman001 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      They didn't, actually. That was a Nintendo employee at treehouse and no one else.

      [–]haidere36 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Well, there was a major event that happened in the past 3 years that could've complicated development, especially for a small indie studio.

      [–]swissarmychris 34 points35 points  (3 children)

      That was also before they decided to make the jump from DLC to full-fledged game. That kind of major change in scope isn't likely to happen again.

      [–]Enomiam 62 points63 points  (1 child)

      Not it wasn’t. It’s been announced to be a full game for a good while. They showed a good portion of gameplay in a Nintendo Treehouse in 2019 and made everyone assume it was a lot sooner than it has been. Not really an issue, it’ll come when it’s ready, but Team Cherry definitely isn’t the best when it comes to transparency with their fan base.

      [–]Fenor 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      it's a valve level of soon

      [–]Fleckeri 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Until they suddenly announce the first entry in the HKCU — debuting in theaters worldwide Summer 2026.

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          [–]Impaled_ 59 points60 points  (14 children)

          Unless it's delayed

          [–]PKDororostar 61 points62 points  (13 children)

          The 12 month thing is a cool commitment for the show. But I'll eat my words if at least a few of these games don't get delayed in the aftermath of covid. And if any are likely offenders, it'll be silksong. But game looks awesome. Team cherry can take as long as they want. No question it will be excellent.

          [–]Cp3thegod 20 points21 points  (0 children)

          Even the graphic that came from xbox (and didn't include silksong, oddly) had small print saying "all titles targeting release over next 12 months". It means next to nothing to me.

          [–]eightNote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'd expect that biggest possible covid slowdown would be for physical distribution. Getting physical copies needs supply chains to work properly, and to do that today, you're gonna want to be planning extra far in advance

          [–]Lambpanties 45 points46 points  (4 children)

          They put up a card of all the games expected for 12 months, Silksong was not there.

          Faffing hell, I wonder if we'll ever get that date....even a vague one....

          [–]theshicksinator 29 points30 points  (0 children)

          They confirmed on twitter silk song is within the next 12 months, the reason it wasn't on that specific panel was cause it indicated which ones were 2022 and which ones 2023, and silk song could be in either.

          [–]DP9A 26 points27 points  (1 child)

          They said all game sin the showcase are coming in the next 12 months and the Xbox Twitter account confirmed it.

          [–]apistograma 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Well, at this point, I could believe if June 2023 gets extra 300 days just to fuck with us

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            [–]Mejis 18 points19 points  (4 children)

            Wild speculation: only Nintendo are allowed to announce the release date 🙃

            [–]Cp3thegod 25 points26 points  (3 children)

            This is why I'm caught between 'this game will never come out' and 'this game is could literally come out this month' lol. The whole thing is just very odd, the total silence from Team Cherry even after this announcement just adds to that.

            [–]agentkirb 21 points22 points  (1 child)

            I mean... it 100% is going to come out. They have a history of taking their time with their games. And they have a huge fanbase due to the success of their first game (which was originally a kickstarter game) it would be weird to give up and not release anything at all.

            I seriously doubt it would come out next month though. If I had to bet, the safe bet would just be sometime close to a year from now.

            It's really hard to be sure though, because as people have pointed out... Team Cherry have been silent after the first announcement of the game. So I could easily see this being as early as 6 months or even as late as 2 years

            [–]Mejis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Yeah, totally. But I imagine they are under heavy contractual obligations to keep schtum.

            [–]piramidexoterica 1 point2 points  (4 children)

            She said that after the silksong trailer though

            [–]TheMastodan -1 points0 points  (3 children)

            What part of “all” are you not understanding?

            [–]Theinternationalist -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Welcome to every Nintendo Direct ever.

            [–]weglarz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Well they’re targeted for the next 12 months. I’m sure there will be delays. At this point I honestly think this was a troll on team Cherry’s part. They knew we would see the beginning of the trailer and get hype as shit only to be let down by no release date or even estimated window.

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              [–]JesusSandro 672 points673 points  (34 children)

              Am I disappointed that there isn't a release date? Yeah, but after the radio silence this trailer made the entire month for me.

              [–]puppybanter 239 points240 points  (11 children)

              Within 12 months it seems at least

              [–]Ze_Puffa_God 175 points176 points  (7 children)

              xbox confirmed within 12 months on twitter: https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1536035818275487746

              [–]KingWilliams95 92 points93 points  (6 children)

              Yeah I’m sure not a SINGLE thing shown will be delayed

              [–]dlgn13 54 points55 points  (0 children)

              Any game can be delayed, even one with a precise release date.

              [–]ShadowTown0407 25 points26 points  (0 children)

              A delay can happen weather they say it's within next 12 months or if they would have given an exact release date so what's the point of bringing that in

              [–]shinlo18 33 points34 points  (2 children)

              I'd like it more if it was the developers' words, not xbox's...

              [–]-neet 18 points19 points  (0 children)

              Delays can always happen even if devs say its coming out within 12 months for a multitude of reasons.

              But from what is being said atleast all the games are planned to be released within a year.

              [–]SuperRayman001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              A playtester and admin on their Discord confirmed Xbox's words are accurate

              [–]Marcoscb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              The last slideshow with all the games even had an asterisk that they're "targeted" at releasing within the next 12 months.

              [–]clikplay 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              For 10 years at least

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                [–]shapookya 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                It's kinda funny how with all these big announcements today, this indie game is the biggest of them all for me.

                [–]haycalon 45 points46 points  (6 children)

                The lady mentioned at the start something like "and for the first time all of the games we're showing come out this year!" so maybe there's a soft release date

                [–]Krak2511[🍰] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

                Not necessarily this year, but within the next 12 months.

                [–]Belial91 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                She said that after the Silksong trailer though so who knows.

                [–]Eshuon 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                Somebody asked her specifically about silksong and she said yes

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                  [–]Impaled_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Probably at the next Nintendo direct

                  [–]ringu68 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Fuck the release date, let them work on it.

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                    [–]NaamiNyree 408 points409 points  (23 children)

                    All the people shitting on the leaker, dude is 100% legit, he was right once again, its obvious he has access to unlisted youtube vids

                    [–]ShiningConcepts 234 points235 points  (9 children)

                    That means we're almost certainly going to see Persona announcements soon.

                    [–]Javimoran 206 points207 points  (1 child)

                    And there we go

                    [–]Deadmanlex45 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                    And yeah hell yes it happened

                    [–]Stranger-10005 29 points30 points  (2 children)

                    What? Are there persona leaks?

                    [–]MegamanX195 16 points17 points  (4 children)

                    Leaker name?

                    [–]OnyxMemory 62 points63 points  (1 child)

                    Insider_wtf on Twitter. Hes gotten everything exactly right so far.

                    [–]xdownpourx 25 points26 points  (0 children)

                    https://twitter.com/insider_wtf

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                      [–]DRawoneforJ 18 points19 points  (2 children)

                      yeah the brushie special, hopefully he doesn't get found out like it seems brushie did

                      [–]darkmacgf 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      What happened to Brushie?

                      [–]DRawoneforJ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                      Stopped leaking monster hunter stuff. They'd usually leak a day before the event etc, which kind of coincides with seeing the YouTube videos early

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                        [–]IamEclipse 545 points546 points  (20 children)

                        Fucking spat out my drink when this just popped up, Holy shit.

                        2 years of memeing Nintendo Directs just for it to show up in an XBOX Game Showcase lol

                        [–]glium 88 points89 points  (19 children)

                        Such an anticlimactic showcase too. It just popped in, no emphasis whatsoever

                        [–]andresfgp13 159 points160 points  (1 child)

                        bigger games have been presented that way.

                        [–]Wasteak 62 points63 points  (1 child)

                        You would rather have people talking pr stuff before showing each video?

                        [–]IamEclipse 96 points97 points  (5 children)

                        Honestly, I kinda loved it. Was getting bored of the 7 minute Redfall trailer, about to switch off and just catch the trailers later.

                        Cue Silksong just fucking showing up after years like it was nothing, looking fire and leaving. That gameplay looked so smooth and knowing we're maximum 12 months away is all I needed. It definitely looks worth the wait.

                        [–]kylo_kills__han 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                        Why do you say a maximum of 12 months away? Maybe i missed something

                        [–]IamEclipse 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                        All of the games shown in the showcase were said to be releasing within the next 12 months.

                        [–]Dusty170 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        It looked exactly like hollow knight, which I mean.. is good, More hollow knight is always good.

                        [–]chimpyman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I mean it’s not the biggest game. It’s big but not exactly needing a whole focused moment

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                          [–]Jepacor 225 points226 points  (39 children)

                          I feel like every Nintendo direct there's people begging for Silksong and it's at the Xbox show lol

                          It looks a fair bit faster than Hollow Knight which IMO is the worst part about the original so I'm hyped!

                          [–]the-nub 29 points30 points  (38 children)

                          Yep. Enjoyed Hollow Knight a lot, but the movement was so so so slow and the map was absolutely massive. It became a slog and by the end I was really ready to be done.

                          [–]wayoverpaid 178 points179 points  (19 children)

                          Of all of the complaints about Hollow Knight, the slow movement surprises me there. I felt like once you got the dash (which is pretty early on) you could blitz through almost any area you knew. Doubly so once you had the void cloak.

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                            [–]droppinkn0wledge 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                            Bruh what?

                            HK combat movement is extremely precise and fast paced.

                            [–]DawsonJBailey 16 points17 points  (4 children)

                            I agree with the map part but if you think the game is slow I suggest you go watch a speed run and see how fast the game can really be if you master it

                            [–]Bill_Brasky01 19 points20 points  (3 children)

                            Well gosh that’s a lot of games…. ‘If you master it’ is a big if

                            [–]BridgePatient 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                            It's not even an "If you master it" thing, Hollow Knight has some challenging platforming sections that require pretty quick reactions.

                            [–]the-nub 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            I beat the white castle. The game is responsive, it's just not quick.

                            [–]DawsonJBailey 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                            I guess I should’ve specified I meant when you master the movement. You kind of have to master the movement to beat hollow knight which isn’t the case in a lot of other games like idk off the top of my head Skyrim or any other rpg lol but hey I guess that’s not the best comparison

                            [–]sw0rd_2020 -4 points-3 points  (10 children)

                            the movement was so so so slow

                            mhm

                            [–]FloppyDysk 4 points5 points  (9 children)

                            Not very fair when youre linking a speedrun from a very talented player, playing one of the only sections in the game that incentivizes platforming skills instead of combat. Little bit of a cherrypick lol. People here are talking about their experience with their first playthrough.

                            [–]sw0rd_2020 -3 points-2 points  (8 children)

                            Ok, and hollow knight has the best movement mechanics of any 2d single player game besides maybe Celeste and Melee, the speed run just shows someone taking full advantage of that potential. Are you telling me you seriously never figured out how to link dashes, walljump and pogo off enemies in your first playthrough? because those 3 things speed up the game dramatically

                            [–]FloppyDysk 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                            I mean, Ive played a ton of hollow knight through multiple playthroughs and all achievements. Its an amazing game. And yes i got used to using the games mechanics in creative ways. Although Id disagree that kt has the best movement of (almost) any 2d platformer. Speed is a part of that but also that none of the moves besides the jump have any “nuance”. By that I mean there is literally no momentum in the game and thats a very important thing to making movement feel satisfying.

                            Thats not to trash the games movement, it serves a purpose, but that purpose is to facilitate combat and exploration rather than to provide amazing platforming experiences.

                            [–]sw0rd_2020 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                            disagreed, the momentum in HK just kinda worked for my brain and the movement clicked very fast for me. perhaps that’s where our experiences differ

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                                [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (3 children)

                                the fact that they didn't have a release year or anything despite the fact that it's confirmed to be coming in the next 12 months (or planned to be anyway) suggests to me that they're unsure if it's going to be a 2022 or 23 game so it's probably gonna be late 22 or early 23

                                [–]agentkirb 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                It's hard to say. From what I understand, Microsoft basically presented trailers for a bunch of different games and at the end talked about how they would all be on game pass and all coming out within 12 months. If it had JUST been Silksong that was presented, I could see the logic, but the reason for needing to say "within 12 months" could potentially be because of any of the other games presented.

                                I feel like we could see it come out as early as this Chrismas, but you could easily see them announcing a delay a year from now and it being 18 months from now even.

                                [–]Aggrokid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                Personally I lean towards Q2 2023.

                                Cherry is chillin' because they are just 3-5 dudes sitting on bajillions of HK money and a fat Microsoft deal. So their motivation is to EldenRing + polish the fk out of Silksong.

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                                  [–]sleepingfactory 190 points191 points  (12 children)

                                  Jesus I almost had 2 heart attacks when this came on. The first one because I thought we were going to finally get a release date, and the second was because I thought this meant it was going to be Xbox exclusive

                                  [–]Bergerboy14 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                  Release date is within next 12 months

                                  [–]Samsquamptches_ 54 points55 points  (0 children)

                                  Hollow Knight is one of the best games I have ever and will ever play. I legit can’t wait for Silksong, just inject this directly into my veins

                                  [–]Turangaliila 189 points190 points  (12 children)

                                  No date is disappointing. The game looks great but it also looks like exactly what we all expect. I don't need to see any more of the game I just want to know when it's coming.

                                  [–]fuzzynavel34 73 points74 points  (9 children)

                                  Within the next 12 months though

                                  [–]Zentrii 38 points39 points  (5 children)

                                  Yup. and because they didn't say the release date then it's probably next year.

                                  [–]SomeSortOfFool 76 points77 points  (1 child)

                                  Team Cherry doesn't announce release dates until they're basically imminent. Between 7 announced release dates for the original game, 4 major updates, and 2 console ports, the average gap from release date announcement to release is 8 days (ranging from a few shadowdrops to Godmaster being an extreme outlier on the other end, being a bit under a month after the release date was announced.) The original game was 2 weeks. So the lack of a release date tells us nothing. It could be literally any date from tomorrow to June 2023 and we won't know until at most a month before.

                                  [–]Motorolahh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                  this is reassuring

                                  [–]LyzbietCorwi -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

                                  I mean, the previous game is set to the next year and clearly said "Coming in 2023".

                                  It's really worrying that there's not even a hint of release for Silksong.

                                  [–]Zentrii 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                  Ah I didn't see that trailer but they did say they were only showing off games coming out within the next 12 months

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                                      [–]asdiele 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                      Yeah I'm not watching this trailer, I don't wanna be spoiled on any of the bosses or environments. Date was the one thing I wanted! Oh well, good to know they're still working on it at least.

                                      [–]roilenos -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                                      I think it's fine to get some more info from team cherry, they have gained the community trust with hollow knight with a little bit more communication would be nice for all of us that are eager to play it.

                                      [–]MobileTortoise 42 points43 points  (8 children)

                                      So now we just need to expect the release date at the Nintendo Direct...right?

                                      [–]Relixed_ 9 points10 points  (6 children)

                                      Afaik, there have been directs around this time of the year. Maybe direct next week with Silksong being available right after it?

                                      [–]MobileTortoise 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                                      Most people believe that if we ARE getting a Direct it would be next week. Probably Tuesday or Wednesday, fingers crossed!

                                      [–]Hoojiwat 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                                      the 15th is the current leak.

                                      [–]MobileTortoise 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                      That is what I heard as well (The Neon White drop date leak). All we can do is wait for the inevitable announcement sometime soon.

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                                            [–]Bioshocker101 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                                            So with it getting announced that’ll be coming to xbox and it originally was announced just for switch and steam does that mean its also coming to playstation as well?

                                            [–]Gxgear 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            Sounds like more timed exclusive bs

                                            [–]voneahhh 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                                            It does exist?!

                                            (They do exist)

                                            [–]fizzlefist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                            uhh... santa?

                                            [–]JakeTehNub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            I can hear it

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                                              [–]bad_buoys 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                              Man, it seems wild to me that this is going to be on Gamepass Day 1. I wonder how much Microsoft will be paying Team Cherry. Given how ridiculously hyped this game is, I would think that the game would make a LOT if money being sold separately.

                                              [–]ShiningConcepts 36 points37 points  (5 children)

                                              No release date? Haha, never change, cruel cruel world...

                                              [–]DP9A 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                                              Well, it comes out within 12 months so at least now we have an idea of when it can come out.

                                              [–]Blazehero 26 points27 points  (14 children)

                                              Well they said on the Xbox show that these games can be played over the next 12 months, so hopefully we can expect Silksong within that time frame.

                                              Her fighting the almost pure white bug was instantly eye popping to me. Is this even an indie anymore? I swear this game is more hype than a lot of triple AAA games

                                              [–]hyrule5 15 points16 points  (8 children)

                                              Hollow Knight was a lot better than most AAA releases and you could make a solid argument that it's the best Metroidvania ever. So yeah it's hype

                                              [–]00Koch00 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                                              There is no argument there

                                              Like, what would be even close to Hollow Knight?

                                              Hollow Knight is to metroidvanias what stardew valley is to farming games ...

                                              [–]billjames1685 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                              Well as someone who absolutely loves Hollow Knight, a lot of its appeal is from its atmosphere. If someone isn’t into that, it won’t be nearly as good, and other games might execute the metroidvania formula slightly better in some ways.

                                              But yeah, HK and breath of the wild blow every other game I’ve ever played out of the water, and I’ve played some very good games

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                                                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                                                you could make a solid argument that it's the best Metroidvania ever.

                                                as the other guy said there's absolutely no debate.

                                                [–]SoloSassafrass 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                Definitely still an indie, it's being developed by like four or five people.

                                                It just has AAA marketing behind it because it blew up so hard everyone wants to be able to say "You can play Silksong day one on our platform guys!"

                                                [–]wayoverpaid 23 points24 points  (3 children)

                                                It's an indie game but it has AAA polish. In fact I'd say better-than-AAA polish.

                                                A lot of indie (and even AAA) games cheap out on the music, but Hollow Knight has some of the best music scored for a game, with very recognizable themes and leitmotifs. Nothing gets too annoying to listen to even after you've been in the same area for hours.

                                                They have few animated cutscenes, but the cutscenes are quality with a lot of character.

                                                The optimization is top notch. You wouldn't think that would matter for hand-drawn cell-shaded game, but frame drops are really noticeable in a platformer where you need smooth motion.

                                                Almost all the bosses are fun to fight, rewarding a fast, aggressive play-style.

                                                And they have no microtransaction bullshit. Sit down, play a story start to finish. Speaking of which the writing is very good at show-don't-tell and trusting the player to be smart enough to understand what's going on.

                                                I've often felt like games really should be reviewed on the binary axis of ambition and polish. You can have a game like Bejeweled which isn't super ambitious but can be a perfect, bug-free, no-bs experience. And then you can have New Vegas, which is amazing in its depth and complexity but, uh, absolutely has some issues.

                                                Hollow Knight really hits that upper corner of being ambitious as hell with a huge map and scope, but being polished as hell too. That's really hard.

                                                [–]ohheybuddysharon 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                                                trusting the player to be smart enough to understand what's going on

                                                Team Cherry and FromSoftware give me way too much credit

                                                [–]wayoverpaid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                Hah.

                                                Yeah there can be a real risk of players going "what the hell is going on?"

                                                But I think that's arguably better than players going "Yeah, ok, I get it, stop."

                                                [–]Two-Tone- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                Yeah, the environmental story telling in this game is second to none.

                                                [–]Ode1st 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                This still looks great. I’m jealous that many years from now my descendants will get to play it upon release after I’m long dead.

                                                [–]T_Smitt777 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                                Is Silksong not coming to playstation consoles?

                                                [–]kuroinferuno 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                "The games shown will be released within the next 12 months"

                                                Okay.... here's hoping Silksong comes out faster.

                                                [–]Twinzenn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                The fact that the show mentioned all games to be released within 12 months kinda gives me hope that this might make it to a late 2022 release, but the devs didn't want to commit so they left out the date completely instead of putting 2022 or 2023

                                                [–]jwg529 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                                I am someone who was very late to the game and got the Hollow Knight for free through PS+. Were the DLC's paid content or included for free for the early adopters?

                                                [–]ThroawayPartyer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                All the DLCs were free updates. It's moatly post-game content that's extra hard.

                                                [–]Zillak 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                All of the game's dlc are arle3ady pre-installed for everyone. Unlocking them through the gameplay is just a bit tricky. One of the best dlc's starting point is hidden behind a tiny wall on the edge of the map.

                                                [–]doorknobman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                FWIW the presenter just said that all games in the showcase are supposed to come out within the next 12 months.

                                                [–]Panda_hat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                Showcase just said all titles will release within a year, so silksong within a year from now confirmed?

                                                [–]DL_Omega 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                Within 12 months comment is not a release date... But either they will reveal a release date at another show this month(like the supposed Nintendo Direct for June) or they still are not confident on a date. I can see a situation where best case it was a Nov/Dec release date, but they might miss that and delay to next year for February/March so they just did not give a date at all.

                                                [–]qwigle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                And in the announcement of the last state of play there were some people insisting that the game was only coming to switch and pc.

                                                PS is still out but it's clearly not only switch and pc anymore.

                                                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                                                Also PS5 and PS4?

                                                [–]alldayhangover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                Nope

                                                [–]LoL_is_pepega_BIA 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                                Where's the new trailer??

                                                [–]Forques1326 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                After so long, finally a trailer for Silksong and It's probably coming out by the middle of the next year. I'd just like to know if it will eventually come to the PS5 since I played the first one there.

                                                [–]ThatAnonymousDudeGuy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                Definitely, I can’t see it not releasing wide.

                                                [–]ConvolutedBoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                I guess it'll release within 12 months?!

                                                [–]Mac772 -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

                                                I hope they put benches next to the bosses this time. That's the reason why i never finished the first one.

                                                [–]Historical_Kossola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                Same. Having to trek back to bosses wore me out.

                                                [–]colovianfurhelm 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                                                Just needs a bit better fast travel placements and map UI. Also not sure why showing yourself on a map would be locked behind a charm.

                                                [–]TwoBlackDots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                                To reward players for learning the map, which can often be a fun and useful skill, with a minor incentive.

                                                [–]agentkirb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                                                Yeah, it would be nice if this stuff is in main game. If you are playing this on PC they have mods for a lot of stuff like that.

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