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[–]bazvink 716 points717 points  (34 children)

I like how that little arrow shows you where you came from, in case you need to turn around in a hurry. Such a great QoL addition.

/s

[–]omgitsjuju 44 points45 points  (0 children)

This launched me

[–] BuilderUpstairs-Extension-9 57 points58 points  (0 children)

TIL

[–]Shadrixian 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It.....it what.

I thought that was wind direction......

[–]Pvt_Lee_Fapping 50 points51 points  (0 children)

It is wind direction; they were being sarcastic.

[–] SailorNazzraeda 287 points288 points  (118 children)

Even in death Moder still cries!

[–]Minimalphilia 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but she could cry a bit longer with way lower cooldown...

And/or they could make that hidden thing where the winds work against you at least an actual random thing when the head hangs on the stone.

It is annoying and fulfills no value staying like this.

[–] CruiserSleelan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One of the main reasons to install permanent boss buffs mod. Unless you're in a party that cycles the buff, having a 25% uptime while on journeys that can take 30 minutes doesn't feel great.

That and Bonemass is just so good I never switched out of it

[–]IamBlackhawke 89 points90 points  (14 children)

It really do be like that

[–]oheymarc 29 points30 points  (12 children)

This must be a sick joke by the developers at this point, is there a way to reverse polarity and make it so it does the opposite and actually mostly the wind at your back?

[–]TheMilkmanCome 10 points11 points  (9 children)

You can change the direction of the wind with dev commands or Moder’s power, but that’s about it outside of mods

[–]Wethospu_ 3 points4 points  (3 children)

You can also use the weather forecast tool to plan the trip.

Still cheating but less than devcommands.

[–]Calx9 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I got excited, I thought there was some patch I missed about some new weather prediction tools for sea travel.

[–]SageWayren 1 point2 points  (3 children)

outside of mods

I just recently started my first modded playthrough, but haven't found any that help with the wind, you got any recommendations?

[–]PM_ME_UR_GOODIEZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sailing by smoothbrain. All of his mods are amazing. Jewelcrafting mod can also craft a utility item that helps too.

[–]TheMilkmanCome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah sorry, I’m not able to use mods on my system. I know there’s a mod that lets you build house boats though and I thought that was cool as hell

[–]Liam_Altair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fun fact... this is my life as well (finally got a mod to cheat the wind) but my friend... the wind loves her... I don't know what it is, but it is rarely in her face. She mock me about it alot.

[–]BLB_Genome 59 points60 points  (4 children)

That's called Serpant farming speed...

[–] Sailorsilikus 67 points68 points  (3 children)

Right?

"Oh no, i am on the Ocean at night, it sure would be terrible were a serpent attack me..."

Serpent roars

Pulls out draugre fang with needle arrows

"You've activated my trap card"

[–]Azurix8 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Try carrying a stack of frost arrows they deal double damage to serpents and also slows them down. Keeps that pesky dinner from running away.

[–]MercuryFoReal 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Just want to chime in here and say the flavor text on the needle arrow is awesome.

The final stitch.

[–]epicbrewis 51 points52 points  (1 child)

Always the headwind as soon as you have a boat full of iron.

[–]AroundTheWayJill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And a storm comes up…as the sun suddenly starts setting…

[–]da_fishy 52 points53 points  (4 children)

I’ve been thinking about tricking the wind. Start my voyage in one direction to get the headwind and then pull a fast one and hit the 180 to go to where I actually wanted to go

[–]PunSnake 15 points16 points  (0 children)

was just talking about that last night, i swear its coded like that

[–] GardenerSacCyber 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This unironically works. When I'm ready to turn left I go right first and the wind typically shifts into my face. So then I turn around and get 30 solid seconds of tailwind before the wind shifts into my face again.

[–]Wethospu_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really can't tell whether you see serious or not. But maybe that was the point.,🤔

[–]zoug25 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Alexa sells your words to advertisers, your phones are listening when they swear they aren't and valheim is coded to fuck you downwind. These are all thoughts that sounds insane yet I feel more confident claiming them than claiming my own first name

[–] SailorOld-Seaweed8917 42 points43 points  (21 children)

In my many voyages I have learnt that with just a little more distance from the shoreline, the wind direction can tend to change quite drastically in your favour

[–]hchromez 11 points12 points  (19 children)

Is that still close enough to map the shoreline?

[–]JeecooDragon 11 points12 points  (16 children)

No but you'll have a rough outline of where it is, plus you can just mark it with waypoints to come back later too

[–]hchromez 7 points8 points  (15 children)

Boo.

[–]JeecooDragon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I just hate being near the shoreline of a blackforest because those underwater rocks will fuck your boat up

[–]SomecallmeJorge 12 points13 points  (13 children)

If you think that's stupid, just wait till you find out how challenging real life sailing gets!

Also happy cake day

[–]Misternogo 11 points12 points  (12 children)

I hate when people say this. "But it's like that in real life!"

It takes almost 300 pounds of wood and ore to make 2 pound bronze pickaxe in this game. A tiny goblin with a club somehow hits harder than a whole tree swung by a troll.

The devs only left in "realism" in the places where other games would put QOL. That's why every complaint gets met with the answer "mods."

[–]Brickless 2 points3 points  (1 child)

it isn't

[–]hchromez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then that's not helpful for exploring. But would be helpful for ore runs.

[–]metaphorthekids 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Sometimes you just need to go where the wind blows.

[–]Saucepanmagician 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Deep thoughts.

[–]Lozlizor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Straight back to shore it is.

[–]DrDeadwish 1 point2 points  (1 child)

As aún as I change directions the wind just blew the other way again

[–]Malikise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Real Viking longships are designed to sail both ways, so they can land ashore, pillage and get away before help arrives.

[–]KifDawg 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I sing myself "row row row your boat" everrrrrytime I sail

[–] Sailorsilikus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"alexa, play 'put your back into the oar' by 'Amon Amarth'"

[–]No-Acadia-877 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why not tack? It’s faster.

[–]MercuryFoReal 7 points8 points  (0 children)

if (filterContainer(player.boat.storage, ItemFlag.UNTELEPORTABLE).count > 10) {

double baseHeading = getHeadingToClosest(ItemType.FORGE, player.x, player.y); setWindDirection(degTransform(baseHeader, 180.0f)); }

(note: this is my artistic impression about what's going on and is in no way real code within the game... probably)

Edit: ugh, Reddit code tag still sucks.

[–]Old_Administration51 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Hope you got strong oars bro!

[–]VileDespiseAO 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can't you feel the wind in your sails? Yes, but it's always blowing the wrong direction so I've got to paddle.

[–]tsoro 22 points23 points  (6 children)

I really wish they had Static air currents, so you really have to remember which way the wind blows on the eastern side of an island compared to the western.

Imo it would add alot of immersion and reward the players for sailing alot

[–] BuilderYouSubstantial4971 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Static air currents

How does that work?

[–]PM_me_your_PhDs 23 points24 points  (3 children)

I think he means something like a 'prevailing wind'

[–] EncumberedCaleth 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They'd need to model a whole wind current system which seems like a lot of work for not much gain. Unless we get Viking Airships at some point.... nevermind do it do it.

[–]Wetmelon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

on-shore / off-shore that moves with time of day would be good enough. Or just "this seed has a NE prevailing wind in the morning"

[–] EncumberedCaleth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those are some interesting and possibly easy ways to add some interesting variety to the current wind system.

[–]Toopato 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trade winds.

[–] BuilderAlundil 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I felt this... slowly

[–]Boogut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I lol’d.

[–]SwiftDeth1331 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Back when hearth and home came out I discovered 80% of the map before I found yagluth....I feel your pain!

[–]kalaster189 27 points28 points  (8 children)

Sailing into the unknown will ALWAYS blow against you, it’s a given every time.

Yea, in case no one has picked up on it, this game is observing your every move. Minor inconveniences will almost always escalate to dangerous situations. Running back with a pack full of copper? A troll and grey dwarves will spawn. Monsters tend to spawn just before dusk and immediately after it’s cold. Running back to your corpse naked? It’s going to suddenly start raining.

I always play thinking there’s a human dungeon master creating the world for me because the difficulty is so smart and is always luring you into a false sense of safety.

[–]PubgLagger 9 points10 points  (2 children)

And if I’m exploring the unknown with a tailwind it’s 99% of the time heavy fog

[–]trengilly 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Seriously. I've had to stop my boat and just wait out the foggy nights knowing there was plains and mistlands all around and if I moved I'd run aground and likely get killed!

[–]mymindisblack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yesterday I ran aground into plains during thick fog fully decked in my copper armor. Luckily I managed to push the boat back into the water and sail away before I got ganked. I'll never sail at full speed in thick fog again.

[–]RangerDan17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is why I just stopped playing. The odds just always feel stacked against you. Only so long I can play a game and be depleted of stamina before you realize you’re just not having any fun.

[–]PraiseThePun420 7 points8 points  (1 child)

To be confirmed: I believe at the end of Moders power, the wind will turn to be in your way, so, right before ending, turn your boat the opposite direction you want to go. See if you get more value.

Anecdotal evidence.

[–]PunSnake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

im going to try this

[–] SailorHengishammered 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This illustration is my life in short ..lol

[–]mdingrimsby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I once sailed just where the wind took me for about 1 hour. I never got anywhere near my base.

[–] Sailorsilikus 2 points3 points  (3 children)

"Alexa, play 'Put Your Back Into The Oar' by Amon Amarth"

ROW ROW ROW ROW ROW ROW ROW ROW ROW

[–] Builderrei_cirith 2 points3 points  (2 children)

This is why the Moder buff is the best one.

[–]dfafa 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You moder boating son of a b...

[–]Forkhorn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100%. The second you swap your special though you'll be jumped by 6 mobs and wish you had bonemass.

[–]GrillDealing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sailing somewhere? You better believe that's a paddlin.

[–]Brob0t0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think they should add oars to seats. And when you have people sitting there it boots your dead wind speed.

[–]ChiefBeson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

God this is a beautiful tragic story.

I try to use the method of tacing while sailing (zig zag pattern) to counteract this. It makes sailing a bit more involved, but I've only ever played single player, so my Tokyo drifting at sea around obstacles is completely secret to the rest of the world

[–]TheTDog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have portal to the buffs. Grab moder. Go back to boat. Sail to new destination. Put down new portal, grab bonemass/whatever. And you’re good to go. Takes two mins and saves you a huge headache

[–]xxjam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any gyarados enjoyers out there in the open sea?? 😅😅

[–]omgshutupalready 5 points6 points  (2 children)

The devs have said they do this intentionally, right? I really dislike this needlessly contrarian feature. I fucking get it, ok, I'm supposed to tack and shit. I got it literally the first time. Please for the love of God get rid of this stupid feature and make it more random, or maybe there's a mod out there

[–]MadScientist235 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It is literally random. You can decompile the code and check.

[–]creshvan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How else are supposed to know the best way to go?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you tried turning around ?

[–]Boogut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🤣 😂 okay this hits way too close to home!

[–]JerryKiller92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Troo storie

[–]d0m1n4t0r86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Row row row your boat…

[–]RobouteGuilliman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You forgot the heavy driving storm in the ocean when you have full wind behind you.

[–]littleknowfacts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ive been going the wrong direction my whole life aswell

[–]teckno7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I know its cheating, but fuck that bullshit. Our friend who runs our server put it so we can have Moder and the buffs up 24//7.

I just play solo when I want a legit 100% type of playthrough. With friends and mods, the game is a lot more enjoyable for me, most of the time.

[–] SailorTromboneofsteel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I change the wind with dev commands specifically to avoid this wind situation. Cheating? Yes, but I've paddled across entire oceans before, I know I can do it. I just don't want to spend 4 hours of my day staring at the screen as I slowly trundle along.

[–]joj1205 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why they do this

[–]Constanzal1701 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The chances like 25 percent that you don't have the wind... except for the fact that I swear it's not the case. I feel like the game f-s with you in regard to the wind and fog.

[–]StingerActual 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Against the wind. Against the wind. Come on, everybody now, against the wind, let me hear you! Against the wind.” -Bob Seger

[–]HadToGuItToEm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea anyone know exactly how the wind is coded to pick direction close to shore cause in my experience it tends to either follow the coast in a direction or blow away from it

[–]Infectednite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It do be like that.

[–]TheHasegawaEffect 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Despite not having been on a boat for several weeks now I refuse to switch from Moder to something else.

[–]Kerhnoton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And Moder still cries

[–]Timebird78 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dont See a problem. It is a good cardial workout.

[–]okSawyer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want that as a poster lmao

[–]Malikise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyway the wind blows…..doesn’t really matter to meeeeeee……..to meeeeeeeeee.

[–] MinerDraedark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WTB rowing skill: increases speed while rowing the raft, karve, and longship.

[–]TreacleNo4455 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, more dramatic than Robert Redford's "All Is Lost" movie.

[–]fastjeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they want to do this crap, and I'm sure that it's on purpose, they need to make rowing a skill.

[–] HunterKantaowns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, one of the main reasons I quit playing. The wind is the hardest boss in the game and almost more annoying than sid meyers pirates.

[–]JelliDraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sudden swamp, with leech attack/sea serpent sinking your boat and devouring your soul as it leaves your body from that jumpscare

[–] SailorMrsWhorehouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It do be like that sometimes.

[–] Sailorberserkirr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i have no problem rowing, i'm in no rush

[–]Vakieh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This mod is literally required for me to touch the game - I am not here to play inconvenience simulator, I'm here to enjoy my limited lifespan.

[–] HunterLifeisReal1990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 2nd pic from the top is the same journey as the picture on the bottom right.

[–]atomic_moose_cheese 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone who also played Pirates of the burning sea woefully understands this pain.

[–]ParkingElevator9455 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always initially start sailing the opposite direction of where i plan on going nowadays, seems to be working out so far.

[–]Zioreth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is only true if you are exploring, as soon as you are arriving at the port of your base the wind will blow strongly to crash your raft against it.

[–]Ok_Marionberry_9932 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of the boss’ power is keeping the wind in the direction that your boat is pointed at. I just use dev commands personally

[–]crazycatfemboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the meadows, dark, wet and the place to get iron.

[–]Micotyro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just run. I can grab stuff and mark stuff

[–]Munchk1n 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always fake explore in the opposite direction, as soon as the wind goes against me, I turn and go in my intended direction.

[–]nordryd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Is that a serpent?” I said on my raft.

[–]manducare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wind 180 1

[–]FaithlessnessFit577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You missed the part we're the sea serpent came and killed you but yeah seems like all of my adventures too

[–]Tilion462 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moder. Just... Moder.

[–]Puklixa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unless you're in a party that cycles the

[–] SailorSivick314 1 point2 points  (0 children)

always moder

[–]ObfuscatedAnswers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sense a theme here... you're sailing, is that it?

[–]Muneyshot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You need to install some Mods.

[–]Honky_Town 1 point2 points  (1 child)

In early days there was a trick to cheat wind. Like driving backwards and turning camera back or forwards. System thought you were driving the other direction and turned wind so you could sail again for 30 seconds or some

[–]No-Acadia-877 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a sailor, a huge qol update or mod would be to have some prevailing winds, and winds that follow land formations as they do irl. Have the wind generally go away from land at and and towards land during the day. Better map generation would help too, and tides, but that might be too much.

Another mod that would be great would be “accurate tacking” or “trim your sail”. Making you manually move the lines to trim your sail to the wind would be great on the longboat, and give your friend something g to do while sailing together. Would require a hammer, as this type of sail was trimmed by actually moving a tack, or nail, with the sheet. Also the no sail zone should be bigger for this type of sail rig, probably closer to 120*.

Some might say go play a sailing game. I would argue that Vikings were excellent explorers and sailers, the first from Europe to America, so good sailing is accurate to a good Viking experience.

[–] HunterHenryBo1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Soooo true. Or you come near rocks, and the wind shifts to push you into them

[–]Narsuaq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are some really sick iPod Nanos

[–]ShrunkenQuasar 2 points3 points  (2 children)

This is why I travel by land when I can, or by raft when I can't. People ask me why I don't build anything bigger than a raft for hopping across the sea, and the reason is simple. I have never, ever, not even once, had a tailwind when sailing. The one time I started a trip with it, the wind turned into a headwind within a minute. So if I'm going to be using oars the whole trip, I don't see the point in wasting resources building a bigger ship. I also have the lovely experience of it always starting to storm when I get on a boat.

Pretty sure I'm cursed.

[–]ThatNiceMan 3 points4 points  (3 children)

[–]Xywzel 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I have real sailing experience and my understanding is that tacking in Valheim works lot worse than it does on a real boat. The "no-sail zone" looks smaller, but the speed you can get at angle compared to wind direction is lower, and you loose lot more momentum while making the turn between port and starbord tacks. It is still useable in wider open ocean areas, but in narrows or when exploring shores it doesn't really beat the paddling. Which is unfortunate, as it would teach players actual sailing. I think instead of paddling there should be rowing, that uses stamina, but has lot more control over the boat, so you can use that upwind in narrow rivers and in harbours, but can't do long trips against the wind without tacking, which should be made bit more forgiving (narrower no sail zone, better momentum keep in turns).

[–]rvf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my experience, the "no-sail zone" in valheim is almost a semicircle.

[–]BillyTheHousecat[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Tacking is not that much more efficient than paddling, plus I'm explicitly exploring coastlines in this post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/lnm7ci/is_tacking_useful_maybe_possibly_it_depends/