Meta:Babel

From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki
This is the general discussion forum for Meta (this wiki). Before you post a new comment please note the following:
  • You can comment here in any language.
  • This forum is primarily for discussion of Meta policies and guidelines, and other matters that affect more than one page of the wiki.
  • If your comment only relates to a single page, please post it on the corresponding discussion page (if necessary, you can provide a link and short description here).
  • For notices and discussions related to multilingualism and translation, see Meta:Babylon and its discussion page.
  • For information about how to indicate your language abilities on your user page ("Babel templates"), see User language.
  • To discuss Wikimedia in general, please use the Wikimedia Forum.
  • Consider whether your question or comment would be better addressed at one of the major Wikimedia "content projects" instead of here.
Wikimedia Meta-Wiki

Participate:

SpBot archives all sections tagged with {{Section resolved|1=~~~~}} after 1 day and sections whose most recent comment is older than 30 days.
Communication
Wikimedia Social Suite
Meetup
Babel
Distribution list
ComCom
Mailing lists
Overview
Administration
Standardization
List info template
Unsubscribing
Wikimedia IRC
Channels listing
#wikidata-admin
#wikimedia-admin
#wikipedia-en-admins
Channel operators
#wikimedia-admin
#wikipedia-en-admins
#wikipedia and #wikipedia-en
Instructions
Guidelines
#wikipedia
Group Contacts
Noticeboard & Log
Cloaks
Bots
FAQ
Stalkwords
Quotes (en)
archives
Quotes (fr)
Other chat networks
Telegram
Discord
Matrix.org
Steam

Hi all! As part of our work towards improving the Wikimedia Foundation’s presence on Meta-Wiki, we plan to update the Wikimedia Foundation page soon. In addition to updating content, this includes using the new templates and designs developed for this project.

The page in its current state is quite outdated, having not been meaningfully updated in over a decade. As an example, the “History” section seems to only have one update since 2009 (mentioning the current office location) and the “Some project history” section has not had a new item since 2013.

Our intent is to improve on the current functionality of the page, adding new content and updating or removing outdated information. This includes contact info, an organizational chart, and links to resources. Though we have ideas for how the new page will look, we have an ask for you. What Information or links we should include on the new Wikimedia Foundation ”front door” on Meta-Wiki?

Best regards, RAdimer-WMF (talk) 19:08, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think someone landing on that page would want to know basic who/what/where/when/why/how info (address, date founded, key personnel, etc.) and have a link to or an overview of how money is spent. Maybe some kind of brief overview of core values and mission statement kind of language as well. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:17, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi koavf, thanks for your input! Most of that info (key people, money spent/reports, goals/plans, values, etc.) is now available from the new page :-) RAdimer-WMF (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking slick. Very readable. Great work. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:01, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We've now updated the page significantly, and we're interested in your feedback on the new content! RAdimer-WMF (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

user-space on meta[edit]

What am I allowed to use my user-space for here?

as in "meta:user:irtapil/…" pages.

When I try to create a user-space page here I get a link to info about what belongs here in the public main-space, but it's not clear how much (if any) of that applies to my user-space?

For most wikis the user-space is for research notes and drafts related to work on that wiki, but meta seems to be about the connections between wikis? So can I use my user space here for notes and drafts that relate to multiple other wikis?

Irtapil (talk) 23:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no equivalent to w:en:WP:USERPAGE here. At Help:User page, we just redirect you to mw:Help:User page. The reality is that the content on Meta is a lot of copy/pasted data dumps and all kinds of nonsense that is usually at least tangentially related to something, so as long as what you put in your userspace isn't against the terms of service or breaks the laws of Florida, you'll be fine. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't duplicate discussions, already replied to you at Meta_talk:Inclusion policy#user space. Also a note, what certainly doesn't belong here is anything trying to argue about or circumvent your local project blocks. — xaosflux Talk 23:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

I just wanted to say thank you for the software improvements in recent months and years. I don't know who's doing this, so I'm leaving a message here. The reply tools, subscribing to threads, and the pop-up boxes linking to an archived discussion have been very helpful and make editing much more convenient. Kk.urban (talk) 18:19, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is developed by Wikimedia Foundation Editing team. More information on Talk pages project page. cc @Trizek (WMF): SCP-2000 03:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kk.urban, thank you very much! I will share your appreciation with the team. It was a huge effort, we explain it on Diff.
@SCP-2000, thank you for the ping!
Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 13:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Report of the U4C Charter ratification and U4C Call for Candidates now available[edit]

You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki. Please help translate to your language

Hello all,

I am writing to you today with two important pieces of information. First, the report of the comments from the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter ratification is now available. Secondly, the call for candidates for the U4C is open now through April 1, 2024.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Per the charter, there are 16 seats on the U4C: eight community-at-large seats and eight regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement.

Read more and submit your application on Meta-wiki.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 16:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Global user pages and local messages[edit]

I've been contemplating Template:Retired again. The template does get misused ("retirements" by blocked users, meatball:GoodBye declarations), and it's occasionally irritating to see users who make only one or two edits and then announce their "retirement". (Sometimes it's even the sole edit they make here.)

But there's a special problem at Meta-Wiki: Because of Global user pages, you can "retire" from Meta-Wiki and have that banner appear at all the wikis, including wikis where you are still active.

I'm wondering if there's a way to prevent this spillover. Restrict the template to the talk space? Add some noinclude tags? Delete it altogether? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:52, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Comment @WhatamIdoing:
  1. people do retire globally, so that should always be an option
  2. are you talking abuse or cluelessness?
  3. do people know how to properly edit and coordinate their global user page
    • use of __NOGLOBAL__?
    • use of <noinclude>?
  4. might we consider that on every user page that we give some editing instruction for users through a targeted use of Template:Editnotice. There is already a line of text that says This user page will be displayed on other wikis if a local user page does not exist there. [Noting that this message I cannot find in the mediawiki settings for meta.] ]
I will fiddle with {{retired}} and see what we can do with a #switch:.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I think the __NOGLOBAL__ and options would work for people who are trying to indicate Meta-Wiki only. Maybe those should be on the /doc page for that template? (If they work the way I think they will, I'm willing to write it up, but I don't want to give people incorrect advice.)
In terms of abuse, I would rather that blocked/glocked accounts did not have this template (which implies a voluntary departure), but I'm not sure that it's always quite that simple. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2024 Selection[edit]

You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.

Dear all,

This year, the term of 4 (four) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Board Governance Committee created a Board Selection Working Group from Trustees who cannot be candidates in the 2024 community- and affiliate-selected trustee selection process composed of Dariusz Jemielniak, Nataliia Tymkiv, Esra'a Al Shafei, Kathy Collins, and Shani Evenstein Sigalov [3]. The group is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2024 trustee selection process, and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

  • May 2024: Call for candidates and call for questions
  • June 2024: Affiliates vote to shortlist 12 candidates (no shortlisting if 15 or less candidates apply) [5]
  • June-August 2024: Campaign period
  • End of August / beginning of September 2024: Two-week community voting period
  • October–November 2024: Background check of selected candidates
  • Board's Meeting in December 2024: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2024 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page, and make your plan.

Election Volunteers

Another way to be involved with the 2024 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page.

Best regards,

Dariusz Jemielniak (Governance Committee Chair, Board Selection Working Group)

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Results#Elected

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-08-15#Governance_Committee

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] Even though the ideal number is 12 candidates for 4 open seats, the shortlisting process will be triggered if there are more than 15 candidates because the 1-3 candidates that are removed might feel ostracized and it would be a lot of work for affiliates to carry out the shortlisting process to only eliminate 1-3 candidates from the candidate list.

MPossoupe_(WMF)19:56, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]