So How's the Custody Hearing For 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad' Going?

Well, we'd have to say poorly:

Daughter of accused white supremacists made racist remarks at age 4, aunt testified

and

Girl told police her parents praised Hitler for killing 'lots of people'

On June 1 'Nazi Mom' and Paul Fromm appeared on "The John Oakley Show," a Toronto call-in radio program. And both "Alice" and Fromm proceeded to shovel it as high as they could. To his credit, the host didn't seem to buy 'Nazi Mom's' claims. However, we have to say that we're concerned about Paulie. Listen to him speak. Now, we could be wrong, but it sounds as if he's either had a stroke or has taken up drinking.

Are you okay Paul? You don't need an intervention, do you?

UPDATE: This is why you can't have an intelligent conversation with a bonehead. The following was posted by "White Power Toronto":

Sup niggas?

Allow me to share with you a quote from one of your own blog postings:

"Now, we on the other hand have pretty darn good intel"

Let me ask you tools a question: if your "intel" is "pretty darn good", how come you don't know Nazi mom's real name? Also, what would you be willing to offer for her real name and photos of her?

You mean the photos we have of her and her now estranged husband at the March 21, 2008 Aryan Guard march in Calgary? Or her picture from the Blood and Honour Forums. Or the pictures from her Facebook account?

And you do know what a publication ban is, right?

In other words, we know both the names of 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad.' We also know that you're a blithering idiot, but it's equally nice to know that you seem willing to sell out one of your own for the right price. Now that's the kind of unity we've come to expect and rely on in the "White Nationalist" movement.

BCL Beats Us To Another Story.

Doug Christie has been granted "interested party status" in the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith, Abrams, Harry v. Topham, Arthur case now before the CHRT.

The decision is located here.

Four of the Free Dominion "John Does" Have Been Identified

Continuing our focus on FreeDom (and enjoying the reaction of the likes of Edward Kennedy) we've learned that four of the anonymous forum posters named in Richard Warman's civil suit have been identified:

Roger Smith (a.k.a. "Peter O'Donnell")
Jason Bertucci (a.k.a. "Faramir")
Andrew ******** (a.k.a. "Droid 1963")
Dan LePage (a.k.a. "SaskBigPicture")

We've been sitting on this for a few days now but we have been reading the fallout on FreeDom:

Since the folks at FreeDom are super smart, Mark Fournier has jumped to the conclusion that the identification of these individuals must be the result of nefarious activities on the part of Mr. Warman:


Well, since you asked so nicely Mr. Fournier, here's how their identities became known spelled out nicely in Mr. Warman's most recent affidavit:





We've likely redacted more than we actually needed to, but just to be on the safe side...

Now, let the fun begin.

UPDATE: Bloody hilarious. Evidently ARC is an insignificant failure and no one pays attention to us, however within half an hour of our posting the article there was a mention of it on FreeDom and Connie bumped up an old thread that complained about our having commented on her and Mark shaking hands with Fromm and his wife (while we were going to let this go when she first accused us of being hypocritical, we think we will discuss this in greater depth at a later date). We certainly didn't let them know we had posted it, so it would seem that some of their own readers have at least a passing interest in what is written on this blog.

And, get this. Now some of them are making up quotes and attributing them to ARC:

Maikeru: 'Since we [ARC] have yet to address the situation in Gaza, it might be a good idea to explain what our position on the entire Arab-Jewish conflict is so people can understand. The way we see it, if Jews and Arabs can't seem to come to a peaceful solution to their problems after thousands of years of fighting, we most certainly aren't going to be able to contribute anything of value. Gentiles and other people who are neither Jewish or Arab who want to exploit the troubles in the Middle East for whatever political or financial agenda they have should be hauled off and shot.'

Now, we assume that 'Makeru' is referring to our statement regarding our stance on the Palestinian and Israeli conflict and the unwelcome involvement of the Aryan Guard and some extremist Muslims. We invite our readers to examine our article and determine whether or not we wrote what was attributed to us. Of course a simple Google search will show that the quote attributed to us originated on the FreeDom forums and not here on this website. If our position on the crisis in Gaza appeared anywhere else on the Internet and if there was any editorializing by the person who republished our position, we do not necessarily support their ideas.

Free Dominion claims to be, "the voice of principled conservatism." We invite our readers to determine the accuracy of that claim.

Thank you FreeDom for making our day. We had a great laugh about this. Please keep it up.

UPDATE 2: Back from our mini vacation. We redacted slightly more information on the final page of the affidavit regarding one of the John Doe's family members (although there was no mention of a name in the unredacted section, it did discuss a family relationship).

Aren't we nice?

Murder of American Abortion Provider Celebrated on Free Dominon Boards

Abortion providor Dr. George Tiller was murdered yesterday. The alleged murderer, 51 year old Scott Roeder, has links to both the Montana Freemen and to the Christian Identity movement.

While the murder of Dr. Tiller has been condemned by many, including numerous mainstream anti-abortion advocates, some who are opposed to reproductive rights have not only not condemned cold blooded murder, but have actually celebrated it. Among that group are some of the denizens of FreeDom with the shrillest voice and chief cheerleader being Edward Kennedy:






There's more, and much of it is worse than this. If you've the stomach, you can read the information directly from the FreeDom forum.

To be fair there are a few on this FreeDom thread who have condemned the murder (even some who oppose reproductive rights have voiced their disgust with the murder of Dr. Tiller) which has resulted in being subjected to the wrath of Kennedy and others who applaud the murder. But since Kennedy is a racist, misogynist kook, we wouldn't let that cause us to loose much sleep.

Interstingly, as of the writting of this article, the Fourniers have yet to jump into the fray. We're pretty sure that Mark and Connie are opposed to reproductive rights and we don't fault them if they hold that position even if most of us happen to disagree. What we're interested in is if they want their website to continue to be used as a forum for extremist views like that which Mr. Kennedy, Yoda and others adhere to.

Aryan Guard Exposé in "The Intelligence Report"

"The Intelligence Report" of the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center has written an exposé on Calgary's Aryan Guard in their Summer 2009 issue. We're happy to state that we played some small part in contributing to the research for the article. Others who contributed their time and knowledge include Jason Devine (spokesperson for the Calgary ARA), Edmonton Police Sgt. Stephen Camp (co-chair of the Alberta Hate Crime Committee), Valerie Pruegger, Constable Lynn MacDonald (hate crimes coordinator for the Calgary Police Service) and Cam Stewart (author OF a hate crimes report commissioned by the Alberta Hate and Bias Crime Incidents Committee).

Northern ExposureCanadian Hate Group Shocks Calgary
By Sonia Scherr

Since one can easily click on the link (and since the article will be archived by "The Intelligence Report" we will not reprint te entire article. However a few excerpts:

The Aryan Guard was founded in late 2006 with help from two disgraced ex-teachers who marched with the fringe group at the March 21 rally: Paul Fromm of the Canadian Association for Free Expression, who lost his teaching certificate because of his white supremacist activities, and National Socialist Party of Canada leader Terry Tremaine, a former part-time university lecturer who in 2007 was fined $4,000 by the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal because of his racist and anti-Semitic Internet postings.

...

MacDonald said the Aryan Guard has also received ongoing support from Christian Waters, a leader of the Canadian branch of the Brotherhood of Klans Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. Headquartered in Marion, Ohio, that group has emerged as the largest Klan organization in the United States.

...

The true danger posed by the Aryan Guard comes not from its public activities, but from its more clandestine ones. A man reached at the Aryan Guard's contact number refused to answer most questions during a brief interview, but repeated the group's opposition to violence.

Yet the group's history of criminal activity belies that assertion. According to the Calgary Police Service, the Aryan Guard has been linked to several assaults between late 2006 and mid-2008. The victims have included a homeless man, a gay community member, and a cab driver from North Africa, MacDonald said.
Writing about the latter incident on Stormfront on July 20, 2007, McKee — who'd been charged in connection with the attack, though he claimed a good friend was actually responsible — boasted about getting the case dismissed. "The reason being was that they couldn't make a positive ID because apparently everyone there was all dressed in combat boots with white laces [and] black flight jackets and all had shaved heads. So let this be a lesson to anyone who wonders why on earth all us skinheads dress so similarly. [T]his is another great reason. lol [laughing out loud]"

The incident that has received the most publicity involved an assault on a Japanese visitor in her mid-20s, Asako Okazaki, when she left a bar shortly after midnight in July 2008. A 17-year-old Aryan Guard member — who was convicted in March but has not been publicly identified because he was a juvenile — kicked the woman in the back of the head with steel-toed boots. According to court testimony, the attacker followed the woman out of the bar after making a disparaging remark about Asians. At the time of his arrest he was wearing boots with red laces — a skinhead symbol indicating he'd spilled blood for the movement.

...

The group's propensity for criminal activity is no surprise given that many members have histories of vandalism and assault. Two of the group's most prominent members, McKee and Dallas Price, faced assault and weapons charges in connection with a September 2006 confrontation in which one victim was hit with a wooden club and another was stabbed with a knife. Robert Reitmeier, also active in the group, was charged with attempted murder in connection with a November 2006 assault on a man who suffered skull and facial fractures. Member Bill Noble was convicted in 2008 of posting hate material on the Internet that primarily targeted non-whites, Jews and gays. A judge sentenced him to four months in jail and imposed limits on his computer use for three years, though Noble continues to post frequently on Stormfront.

The Southern Poverty Law Center has been instrumental over the years in the effort to combat racism and bigotry in the United States. Some of their greatest achievments on the legal front have included the successful suits against the Invisible Empire, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, White Aryan Resistance, the United Klans of America, Christian Knights of the KKK, Aryan Nations, Imperial Klans of America and many others which effectively destroyed each group.

Perhaps now, with the Aryan Guard as the focus of an international publication, the gear of justice will start to turn a little bit faster.

Chickens Coming Home to Roost for 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad' in Custody Case

'Nazi Mom' continues to backtrack from earlier comments. Today, new revelations (new to the uninitiated that is) revelations of 'Nazi Mom's' and 'Nazi Dad's' past emerged in the pages of "The Globe & Mail":

Mom in swastika case has online history of hate

Parent of girl in custody battle posts on pro-white forum, says her now-closed skinhead website ‘was a joke'

Patrick White

Winnipeg — From Thursday's Globe and Mail, Thursday, May. 28, 2009 05:04AM

The couple who sent their seven-year-old daughter to school with white supremacist slogans drawn on her skin once set up a pro-skinhead website that was the subject of a criminal complaint.

Now deleted, the website aimed to attract skinheads interested in “looking out for each other and helping to cleanse the area we live in,” according to a statement on the homepage.

The girl's mother says the website “was a joke” and has repeatedly denied allegations that she preached hate to her daughter and two-year-old son. The province of Manitoba seized both children last year shortly after the daughter was sent to school with a swastika and white supremacist slogans on her ski and is seeking permanent custody in a Winnipeg court.

No one involved in the case can be identified under Manitoba law.

Social workers have testified that during interviews with the girl she spouted racial epithets and said “What people don't understand is that black people should die.”

The mother said she believes social workers coaxed her daughter into uttering the statements. “My daughter would never say anything like that,” she said in an interview.

The website, however, suggests the couple were fluent in such language.

Song lyrics on the site advocate hatred of Jews, blacks and gays.

The lyrics also glorify General Heinz Guderian, father of the German army's Second World War blitzkrieg tactics.

In the site's “Rants” section, diatribes target the mentally challenged and aboriginals.

Ottawa human-rights lawyer Richard Warman lodged a criminal complaint regarding the site in 2005. “I think it's regrettable that charges were never laid in 2005 which might have avoided this whole debacle now,” he said in an e-mail.

In an interview Wednesday, the mother – who is now living outside Manitoba and has not attended the custody hearing – admitted the couple created the site, but closed it shortly after police came knocking. “We were investigated for that one,” she said. “They took me in one room and [the father] in another.”

She is also an avid commenter on Web forums at Resistance.com, a “pro-white” site, where she has posted comments expressing hatred of Jews.

But the mother insists her indelible online fingerprint can be misunderstood without context.

“A skinhead is just a working-class white person,” she said, referring to the roots of skinhead culture in England during the 1950s. “Just because some skinheads want to go gay-bashing doesn't mean we all do it.”

She has been an self-professed skinhead from age 11 and said she remains one today despite her kids being taken away.

She said that throughout high school, she buried her nose in law and history books, studying the legal implications of her beliefs. She said she may have let racist remarks slip in front of her children from time to time, but said it was never with malicious intent.

“I might have come home and said something like ‘That stupid nigger at 7-Eleven asked me for ID again and now I've got to go back,'” she said. “Or it could be like, one of my best friends, I make fun of him for being a Pollack. He calls me a Scottish bitch, you know.”

While she moderates her own views, she said she can't speak on behalf of her husband. The couple separated soon after Child and Family Services took their children away.

“We've had several arguments on politics,” she said. “I have said to him ‘You're a bigot.'”

The "pro-skinhead website" mentioned in the article was Infantry-14. Not long after its creation, Richard Warman filed a criminal complaint and the website was taken down.

However, through the magic of the "wayback machine" one can read all of the "jokes" that 'Nazi Mom' was talking about.

We took a number of screen shots, however if you're interested in reading the views of 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad' feel free to click on the following links:

• Biography (riveting reading for the illiterate)
• Rants (They seems a bit angry)
• Music ('Nazi Dad' was the member of a racist rock band called Rebel Flag who wrote their own music, including gems like the following):

and


and more, but we think this is more than enough.

And remember that 'Nazi Mom' characterized this website as, "a joke." Doesn't seem very funny to us.

Bill Noble Comments on Winnipeg Custody Case

Aryan Guard member Bill Noble (who, we will remind our readers, is still in violation of the terms of his release from jail) has decided to chime in on the custody case in Winnipeg involving 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad.' It might be worth mentioning that while Noble was in jail last year, both 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad' attended the Aryan Guard march in Calgary on March 2008. A few days after their return, the children were removed from the household. Below are Noble's comments on the Aryan Guard's web forum where he acts as an administrator:


Summary executions. Well that certainly doesn't make Noble appear bat fucking insane.

Nazi Mom and Nazi Dad Are Classy

So far we've learned Child and Family Services in Winnipeg have alleged that 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad' taught their children overt hatred of other races and that some races should be exterminated. So 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad' have done what any parent would have done in their situation. They publicly labeled an 8 year old girl as a chronic liar:

Parents put blame on daughter for racist remarks, custody hearing told

A young girl's head was shaved, and her parents described themselves as a skinhead family, court was told on Day 2 of a child custody hearing in Winnipeg.

The case involves a girl, now eight years old, who went to school with white supremacist symbols drawn on her skin. Her mother and stepfather, who are accused of racist teachings and failing to provide adequate care for their children, began a court battle for their children this week.

The girl and her brother have been in the care of the government's Child and Family Services agency since March 2008, when the girl showed up in school with a swastika on her arm.

Her teacher scrubbed it off in the afternoon but the girl showed up again the next day with another one, along with other white supremacist symbols drawn on her body.

Neo-Nazi symbols and flags in family residence

Caseworkers were alerted and went to the family's apartment, where they found neo-Nazi symbols and flags, and took custody of the couple's two-year-old son. CFS officials picked up the daughter at her school.

The case has garnered international attention and sparked debate over how far parents can go to instill beliefs in their children — and how far the government should go to protect children from those beliefs.

On Monday, the social worker who initially interviewed the girl after she was taken into care testified the child was well versed in racist and hateful propaganda. None of the CFS workers can be identified in order to protect the identities of the children.

The girl spoke of this being a white man's world and provided graphic suggestions of how to kill people of colour, the worker testified.

Girl famous for lying: parents

On Tuesday, another social worker testified about her first meeting with the parents — about three weeks after the two children were apprehended.

They told the social worker their daughter often makes things up, and was famous for lying, the worker testified. The parents also said the girl had likely drawn some of the symbols on her body herself.

When the social worker asked why the girl was able to talk about certain things, like hurting people or killing people of colour, the stepfather said it was probably something she'd heard in a private conversation and was probably a joke, the hearing was told.

According to the social worker, the mother said she had no idea why her daughter would refer to them as skinheads.

But the social worker said extended family members later told her that the parents had shaved their heads, and the little girl's, and described themselves as a skinhead family.

Girl said stepdad brought in neo-Nazi views

Then she met the girl, who the social worker described as bright and articulate, even chatty. They met in the girl's new foster home, where the girl was eager to show off her room, and her brother's toys.

The girl told the social worker that her mother used to read her stories but had stopped when she met and married a new man, the social worker testified.

"She was not a nice mommy anymore," the social worker quoted the girl as saying.

The girl said she started missing school because her mom and stepdad didn't wake her up on time. She told the social worker that her stepfather made the rules in the house, that he was angry and would get drunk, and that he didn't make meals, or change her brother's diaper often enough.

The girl said she used to have non-white friends before her stepdad came along, but after he was in her life, the girl's mother told her, "If you have a friend who's not white, I won't be your mom anymore," the social worker testified.

Parents separated, each seeking sole custody

Testimony from child welfare officials and lawyers will continue through the week.

The hearing will adjourn but resume in June, when lawyers for the parents will make their arguments.

The parents no longer live together, and each has asked for custody of the children. The girl's mother is not living in Manitoba anymore and has not been in court. Her lawyer's request for an adjournment Monday morning was rejected.

She has said she can't afford to travel but will attempt to when the parents have an opportunity to make their case next month.

The stepfather is in court and has filed a constitutional challenge, saying his right to freedom of expression, religion and association were violated when the children were apprehended.

The girl's biological father has also been attending the hearing, sitting in the gallery and watching the proceedings. He told CBC News he hopes the children's best interests won't be overlooked in the rhetoric of political ideology.

Like we said, classy.

We were struck by this comment that was apparently attributed to 'Nazi Mom':

According to the social worker, the mother said she had no idea why her daughter would refer to them as skinheads.

You see, we have to say we're confused by this because 'Nazi Mom' wrote the following message when challenging the mother trying to save her son who had become involved with the Aryan Guard:

keep digging a hole you little cock sucker... you're clearly a fucking anti or commie scum... why don't you get your fucking facts straight before you start shit... i will have this group shut down before you can blink you littel cunts Paul Fromm is like a father to me and john is my brother through an through you little fucks want to come out? you have the balls to say this shit to any of us?? I'll give you one chance before I show you what the WN community is made of... come and fucking get it you little bitches!!!

and


you know what... I would be very cautious of what you say.... run and hide... you lying sacs of shit... I see a rock in the corner for you to go crawl under... maybe if you crawl far enough under I might not be able to boot fuck you for shit talking my dad and brother!!! be fucking afraid!! we are not people to be fucked with!!!

And, when someone asked if this was an example of their claims to be against violence, 'Nazi Mom' wrote:


seriously... we're fucking skinheads!! who said we were non violent... we're not hippie pieces of shit we actually fight for what we know is right!!

We've been led to believe that the appropriate screen shots have been saved so we're going to work on retrieving them. Sadly when people think "skinhead" now too many think of boneheads, and 'Nazi Mom' and 'Nazi Dad' are both boneheads.

Of course real skinheads are not fascists. For a history of the REAL and LEGITIMATE skinhead movement before the image was co-opted by boneheads, follow these links:

• 1960-today: Skinhead culture
• Traditional Skinheads

We're also sure that some of our readers will also provide helpful links. We're sure the fine folks with Toronto SHARP can also set anyone straight concerning the real history of skinhead culture.

But back to the point, considering 'Nazi Mom' admitted to being a skinhead (a racist one) we wonder who the liar is? Is the daughter a liar or is mommy?

We've made our choice.

Additional Links:

• Mother says officials coached child to make racist remarks
• Legal experts watching Manitoba case of children seized over racist allegations
• She was not a nice mommy any more,' says girl who bore swastika on arm

Custody Hearing Going Poorly for Nazi Mom and Nazi Dad

Last Friday on CBC radio's "The Current" there was a feature story (you can listen to the archived story here) on the story concerning the removal of children from the home of an avowed neo-Nazi couple. On the program 'Nazi Mom' was interviewed about the case and her feelings about the custody hearing that was soon to occur on the following Monday (today). 'Nazi Mom' claimed that they never taught her child to hate other races and further claimed that the swastika drawn on her daughter was an ancient sun wheel and had little to do with Nazism. In fact, much like every other bonehead, she claimed that she and her then husband only taught their children to be, "proud of their race."

Guess what? 'Nazi Mom' is full of it.

Girl taught black people should die, court hears

By Steve Lambert, THE CANADIAN PRESS

WINNIPEG — A girl at the centre of a child custody battle was taught by her parents that minorities should die and was exposed to violent racist videos, a court heard Monday.

The girl was also familiar with Nazi phrases such as “Heil Hitler” and would talk calmly about how black people could be killed, a social worker testified.

“She said you would whip black people with a ball and chain and they would die,” testified the social worker, who cannot be identified under Manitoba law.

The worker was the first witness at a trial that is to determine whether the province’s child welfare agency will gain permanent custody of the girl and her younger brother, who were seized from their parental home last year.

The social worker was called to the girl’s school after the girl showed up with white supremacist slogans written on her skin — writings which she appeared to understand fully.

“She told me that what people don’t understand is that black people should die,” the social worker said.

The child repeatedly used racial epithets for blacks, Asians, Arabs and other minorities during a 45-minute conversation, the social worker testified.

Court heard the children also had access to a skinhead website and were shown videos depicting racial violence.

The girl’s mother has denied teaching her children hatred. She was not in court and her request for an adjournment though a lawyer was denied. The stepfather, who is fighting to regain custody on constitutional grounds, sat quietly, frequently biting his nails.

In court documents, the father argues the seizure of his children violates his freedom of conscience, belief and association under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

“I believe that there is no legal basis for the children having been apprehended,” he wrote in an affidavit.

The case has garnered international attention and sparked debate over how far parents can go to instill beliefs in their children.

The court hearing is scheduled to run all week and for another week at the end of June.

'Nazi Mom' also claimed to have broken ties to the "White Nationalist" movement. That she's still in contact with Paul Fromm and his wife (whom she refers to as her parents), her new boyfriend is a "White Nationalist and she's still in regular correspondence with individuals tied to the "White Nationalist" movement further calls into question her honesty. And although the allegations concerning the advocation of killing African-Canadians are focused on her estranged husband, 'Nazi Mom' is no stranger to extremist language when she posted messages on various web forums as "Aryanprincess1488":

May 9, 2005: Hey all, I don't post much (I haven't an awful lot of time) but I showed my 12 year old niece this site and although I don't think she's logged on here she has informed me that she visits this forum regularly, and since I haven't been able to see or talk to her too much it's good to know that there is a place of rational and intellectual disscussion where she can come to learn more about the movement. 

Winnpeg is infested with indians and other such inferiors, she's being taught in school that we're all equal and that not one race is better than another, but she is learning and I thank you for the intellegent conversation that takes place in this forum. 14/88

January 8 2005: These are some pictures of my fiancee's tats, I like 'em, and so does he. I can't see either of us abandoning our beliefs and ever regretting the tats, I have a couple but nothing too hardcore just a celtic cross on my leg and family tat on my shoulder.
14/88

January 9 2005: I love Skrewdriver, they have got to be one of my all time favorite bands.

Blood and Honor was the first album I had by them so I think it's definately one of my faves, my daughter (she's 4) loves Hail the New Dawn- her fave song? Free My Land.
14/88

May 9, 2005: Hey all, I don't post much (I haven't an awful lot of time) but I showed my 12 year old niece this site and although I don't think she's logged on here she has informed me that she visits this forum regularly, and since I haven't been able to see or talk to her too much it's good to know that there is a place of rational and intellectual disscussion where she can come to learn more about the movement. 

Winnpeg is infested with indians and other such inferiors, she's being taught in school that we're all equal and that not one race is better than another, but she is learning and I thank you for the intellegent conversation that takes place in this forum. 14/88

May 9, 2005: Yes, out of control is an understatement. I live in Manitoba, there are ways of getting around many of the "anti-hate" laws you just have to know how to word things properly and not use any known "Aryan-Nations" symbols. I called the human rights commision and got a detailed list of what you can and cannot say. They have yet to actually put a ban on any of the so called "hate-symbols" but it's not too far off.

July 18, 2007: It's being investigated by the B'nai Brith and they are also investigating Stormfront as well. They came to our house about a year and a half ago my lawyer told me to stop making posts forever but I just can't I've stayed away and we really haven't heard too much about any charges so I figure it's safe enough now.

July 18, 2007: Here's my BIG DYKE story my friend Jen and I were at a bar screaming the lyrics to No Remorse's Bloodsucker and eventually got kicked out and while outside she tried to kiss me and then I punched her in the face and told her that my mum would have no problem helping me bury her dead body. And that was the last I heard from her... No I didn't actually kill her.

July 18, 2007: TRUE WHITE POWER!!!!!!!

July 21, 2007: I was wondering I haven't been making posts for a while due to the B'nai Brith investigating us but I was wondering if "sbrocker??" still made posts?

July 22, 2007: I've saved the messages on our answering machine. My husband is up on weapons offences though, so I don't think it's worth it to risk being caught for any other weapons not mention that it's almost impossible to own a hand gun in Canada we've got some friends who know what's going on and this guy is still on parole, it's been a week and nothing has happened yet so we'll give it another week and by then I think we can assume that it's all just empty threats. I really can't see anyone running the risk of being brought up on murder charges and sacrifice their entire grow op for some psycho fantasy of a perverted relationship. Anyway that's where were at right now, thanks to everyone for your concern!

July 24, 2007: There should be a thread where people can go to find out why they or their frineds got banned and maybe even a poll to get them back in. I've seen it on other forums and it's worked quite well. 

The hardest thing that we have to deal with is fighting amongst eachother, believe me I know all about that, it's also the worst thing we could do. We have so many enemies and so few of us anyone ever heard the saying "UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL" ? We really need to stop this , no one can even remember what they did that was so bad. We'd have a world wide organization here if we could all just pass ourselves on the small things and just focus on the big picture here.
With everything that has happened here in Winnipeg with the death threats and dishonour, it really makes me realize why we aren't winning this war .

July 24, 2007: Owning a hand gun legally in Canada is next to impossible, my husband came close but right after he recieved a 100% on his restricted test he deciced to get our asian neighbors deported...long story...can't own a hand gun... and we'd like to not have anymore crimminal charges laid against the sole provider of a family of four. Douche bag is still on about the threats, sending viruses through our friend's computer but now thanks to all of you guys I'm not as worried, he's just the "butt" of all our jokes (he had an illeostomy, look it up, you'll get it)
And for the guys who are too lazy to look it up POO BAG!!!

July 24, 2007: (Started a thread called, ‘A song sung by 2 drunk Skinhead’s (who hate cripples)’) christopher reeves 

walking through walmart half past three
saw this crippled bastard looking at me
not really crippled just lazy
you make me sick you crippled prick because you live for free
hahaha your a cripple, ha f***ing ha you're a cripple x2
i find that it's a f***ing gas that you crippled bastards cant wipe your own @$$
you pay someone else to do it for you
that poor bastards gotta clean your crippled poo
hahaha your a cripple ha f***ing ha you're a cripple x2
you wheel around feeling sorry for your self
i think its f***ing funny that you can't reach the top shelp
hahaha your a cripple ha f***ing ha your a cripple x2
well i'll just be the bigger man and WALK away

Sung to the playing style of dayglo abortions
I thought it was a hilarious song and JOE and Stage play it at all our get togethers

July 31, 2007: I know that in Canada, The US and England have some of the highest crime rates in the world also a huge problem with illegal immigrants and non-white refugees. Unfortunately for us it's them who are creating the violence. 

Winnipeg, is the "MURDER CAPITOL OF CANADA" and as much as I don't mind these parasites killing eachother off, I have to wonder why? 

We have alot of street gangs here "native syndycate", "indian posse", etc... but the most dangerous are "the mad cowz" and their rivals "the african mafia" both were started by refugees from somalia, and are violently present in the West End of the city (78camaro if you wanna through in your two cents too that'd be appreciated) we've had an innocent White kid (17) get shot by stray bullets and the public outrage was little to none. The human rights commision cried out because if these apes were to be deported than they would suffer at the hands of their "oppresive government" WHAT ABOUT THAT YOUNG MAN'S FAMILY???? And then came the judge's ruling that the leader was to be deported... funny how they're still killing eachother and they're still killing innocent Whites, funny how no one realizes that the onset of crime of this magnitude is non-white immigration to begin with.
It'd be appreciated if everyone would share their city's struggles...

July 31, 2007: The Canadian government offers instant welfare and housing to refugees, and also when they do find illegals here they still offer them a chance to state their case, as to why they should be granted refugee status and even though they came here illegally alot of them do get in, and of course we've got the bleeding human rights commission preaching "equal rights for everyone" (except of course for Ernst Zundel and other like minded Whites) go figure a load of liberal nonsense... RADICAL SOLUTIONS REQUIRED!!!!!

As for the Iraqi situation; I don't even know what to say to that, we've got enough of those damned sand niggers here and they're probably already sneaking over the borders planning their next suicide attacks. The word refugee has been so over played that it now has little to no meaning whatsoever, these horrid creatures bring all their animosities over to our countries and for what to change our national anthems, to change our history lessons, to distroy the White race??? I said it before and I'll keep on saying it RADICAL SOLUTIONS REQUIRED!!!!!

88!

July 31, 2007: And the gold medal will go to the nig that gets 'em all in the next drive by. 

And they wonder why we hate them!?

August 5, 2007: (in a thread entitled, ‘If you could turn back time?’) Ditto.
I'd like to have enough power to warn Hitler about the consequences of being allies with the japs though maybe it'd be a different world (wishful thinking)

August 8, 2007: (Started a thread called, ‘What would you do?’) If it were up to you, would you sacrifice yourself and your children to save our entire race? 

There would be a 100% guarantee that all jews would be destroyed. 

Would you? Honestly?

August 16, 2007: (In thread she started a thread called, ‘What would you do?’) This question was asked in another forum (not by me) I wanted to see everyone's reaction. 

I hate jews, really I do, alot. They control our government and at least in Canada what we are permitted to say and wear and pretty much think. True there are problems with all other races, but I often wonder how much of a different place the world as a whole would be without the jewish population. 

Anyway it was just a question.

August 8, 2007: (Started a thread called, 'Fulfilling Israel’s dream’) www.ciblr.com
We went to this tonight, it was really quite pathetic I was fortunate enough to see a whole crap load of jews who wished me shalom lmwao!

I couldn't believe the nonsense they were trying to feed me I almost wished I had been at a "holocaust viewing" this was horrible. They were using born again christian types to promote they're anti message. 

there will be another one www.wpgpc.com we'll be going to that one too. 

PS we were followed out by security after I stood up and unable to contain my rage said " this is freaking nonsense".

August 8, 2007: (In response to ‘I think I would have thrown up in the theater!!’) We almost did, but that was when 3 niggers came and sat down next to us. 

I really hadn't heard that many lies since the holocaust, which they didn't even mention by the way. They went from just after the crucifiction, to 1878, to 1948, and that's when we left (30 minutes in).

August 10, 2007: (In a thread entitled, ‘Out of Africa theorie re-buked’ and the link, http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070807/sc_afp/usscienceorigins) F***ing bull s**t!!!! 

More lies propogated by the jews.

August 10, 2007: A jew is a jew is a jew is a jew.

Doesn't matter how much or how little it has in it it's still a kike!
August 19, 2007: It's dissapointing to hear stuff like that, but that's what happens under ZOG dictatorship. 

I'm not sure about an annual amount that Canada sends there but I do know that we recently sent 50 million of our tax dollars to israel in "aid", I assume it's going to pay for their German passports and "survivor" fund.

'Nazi Mom' did not attend the hearing today as she now lives in a different province and she says she doesn't have the funds necessary to make the trip back to Winnipeg. Funny. Had it been one of us, we'd move heaven and earth to try and win back custody of our children. But we suppose we have different priorities.
Other Links:

Children Taken from Neo-Nazi Parents

The Aryan Guard Fallout Regarding Our Articles.

Winnipeg Nazi Mom and Alicia Reckzin: This Should Be Fun to Watch

Don't @#$% With Richard Warman: Part III

We've written about this guy in October 2008, but he's back on our radar again.

William Grosvenor has been a problem for a lot of people for decades now. Considering the multitude of libelous statements Grosvenor has made about as many public figures during that time, he might just have also have approached Francis Dec levels of kookery (we just learned about Dec a few days ago and plan on trying to make a reference to him as often as we can).

Grosvenor eventually decided to go after Richard Warman as well. Guess what happened?

$50,000 awarded in online hate speech ruling

October 22nd, 2008 (7:41am) Adam Dooley

For those who think that ‘anything goes’ on the Internet, an Ontario, Canada Superior Court firmly disagrees. This week, Judge Lynn Ratushny ordered William Grosvenor to pay human-rights activist Richard Warman $50,000 in damages for malicious postings he made on the Internet.

Among other things, Grosvenor accused Warman of being a pedophile; he threatened to kill him; and posted Warman’s photograph and maps showing how to get to his home. As part of the ruling, the judge ordered Grosvenor to issue a retraction of his defamatory comments, to remove them from the Internet and to publishing nothing else that is defamatory or incites violence.

Warman was targeted, apparently, because he has a long track record of pursuing human rights complaints in Canada for what he sees as hate speech online. A lawyer for the federal government, Warman has launched 20 complaints and never lost.

In the world of daily newspapers, publishers are held liable for what the publish. Libelous stories can lead to major lawsuits. In the world of discussion forums, owners of sites are also publishers and are subject to the same kind of laws. It drives home the importance of making sure online forums are monitored appropriately for obscene, threatening or defamatory comments.

Considering Grosvenor's own homophobia and antisemitism as expressed in his online ramblings, we suppose it isn't a surprise that he went after Warman, but one would think that a $50,000 judgment might cause even the kookiest of kooks to rethink his approach. Ha!

Below is copy of the latest Ontario Court order dismissing Grosvenor's attempt to appeal from the dismissal of his 'first' appeal. This was again dismissed with solicitor-client costs.

Yep. He's was appealing the dismissal of an appeal:

Enforcement proceedings related to the original judgment in Alberta is ongoing.

More on the long history of Grosvenor's involvement in the legal system:

Legal Documents

Grosvenor's Extortion Conviction, April, 1970

Grosvenor barred from filing vexatious lawsuits, April, 1971

Newspaper report of injunction barring Grosvenor from picketing auto dealer, June, 1973

The Ghermezian Injunction, June, 1989

Alberta court sheds light upon the credibility of the 'Grosvenor Stamp Company'. "I have concluded that Mr. Grosvenor has been guilty of many inconsistencies, incongruities and exaggerations." June, 2003

Richard Warman v. William Grosvenor: Statement of Claim