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Donald Trump

Donald Trump's Demand for Absolute Immunity for Crimes Committed While President Goes Far Beyond the Qualified Immunity Police Officers Get

Qualified immunity is a badly flawed doctrine the Supreme Court should abolish. But Trump's demands are much more extreme.

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Donald Trump after the Iowa Caucuses
(Tannen Maury/UPI/Newscom)

Despite attempts to claim otherwise, Donald Trump's demand for absolute immunity for any criminal acts committed while president goes far beyond the qualified immunity currently extended to police officers and other government officials. A recent Politifact article (where I and other legal scholars were interviewed) explains why:

As former President Donald Trump petitions the courts to be held legally immune for his actions as president, he's begun comparing presidents and police officers.

In a Jan.19 Truth Social post, Trump argued that "a president of the United States must have full immunity, without which it would be impossible for him/her to properly function." He added that immunity is needed even for "events that 'cross the line,'" though he didn't specify what he meant.

"You can't stop police from doing the job of strong & effective crime prevention because you want to guard against the occasional 'rogue cop' or 'bad apple,'" he wrote in all caps….

Legal experts told PolitiFact that whatever the judicial ruling, Trump's suggestion that he's seeking what police officers already have is flawed.

"What Trump seeks goes far beyond" the protections police officers have, said Ilya Somin, a George Mason University law professor….

The legal protection that police officers and other government officials are afforded is known as "qualified immunity." It is intended to protect officers conducting official duties not only from being held financially liable for their actions but also from being forced to face trial over those actions.

But as the "qualified" denotes, this type of immunity is not all-encompassing for key reasons:

  • It applies to civil cases, not criminal charges. "It has nothing to do with criminal liability," said Joanna C. Schwartz, a UCLA law professor. If officers are charged with a crime, as happened with the officers in the 2020 death of Minneapolis resident George Floyd, they can stand trial.
  • In civil cases, accused officers have to invoke qualified immunity as a defense, and the judge may or may not grant them protection. The accused officer can still be pursued in a civil lawsuit if the judge decides that that officer acted incompetently or knowingly violated the law….

Schwartz said the qualified immunity defense "is very strong, but it is not insurmountable…."

Trump's lawyers have said in court that they are seeking much broader immunity than what police officers receive.

Trump "seeks full immunity, not just 'qualified' immunity," Somin said. "And he is seeking immunity for criminal conduct, not just civil violations."

During oral arguments Jan. 9 before the three-judge federal panel, one judge asked Trump's attorney, D. John Sauer, whether the president should, hypothetically, be immune from prosecution for ordering U.S. Navy commandos to assassinate a political rival.

Sauer said that unless the president had been impeached first, such a prosecution would be invalid.

If you don't want to take my word for the difference between the two, you should at least heed that of Joanna Schwartz, who is probably the nation's leading expert on qualified immunity.

As both she and I have argued in the past, qualified immunity is a badly flawed court-created doctrine that the Supreme Court would do well to reverse. But I must acknowledge QI is at least endorsed by current Supreme Court precedent. The absolute immunity Trump seeks has no such precedent behind it, and would be even more egregious than QI is. It goes much further, and would allow presidents to escape liability for even the most serious crimes. Moreover, unlike a cop on the beat, a president cannot readily argue that he has to make quick decisions on the fly with no opportunity to seek legal advice.

No government official deserves such sweeping immunity. And certainly not the one with the greatest potential to abuse it. Even if you trust presidents of your preferred party with that kind of power, ask yourself if you have similar faith in presidents of the opposing party.

Free Speech

Alleged Panama Papers Leaker Still May Not Sue in Federal Court While Hiding His Name from the Court

"Plaintiff is entitled ... to make his own judgment about whether disclosing his identity under seal to the Court would pose an inordinate risk to his personal safety. But he is not entitled ... to special dispensation from the well-established requirements of the law."

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From Doe v. Federal Republic of Germany, decided yesterday by Magistrate Judge Gary Stein (S.D.N.Y.):

In brief, Plaintiff, the individual who allegedly leaked the "Panama Papers," claims that Defendants, the Federal Republic of Germany ("Germany") and the Bundeskriminalamt of Germany ("BKA"), failed to pay sums due under a contract whereby Plaintiff provided them with access to the Panama Papers for use in identifying tax fraud and other financial offenses.

In addition to allegations regarding Defendants' purported breach of contract, Plaintiff, in his Complaint and other filings, raises concerns for his safety if his identity were to become public. Plaintiff avers that should his identity become known, his "life would be in immediate peril" and he "would likely be killed." Plaintiff specifically references a 2017 docudrama aired by Russian news channel RT, which he calls "an explicit and credible death threat" against him.

In a motion filed simultaneously with the Complaint, Plaintiff explains that the Russian Federation, Chinese Communist Party, and Saudi government—the leaders of which were implicated by the Panama Papers leak—"are known for their repressive regimes," including "extralegal murders and kidnappings." Plaintiff references several instances of alleged extralegal violence undertaken by Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia on foreign soil (none of which were connected to the Panama Papers), as well as the murders of a Maltese and a Slovak journalist who exposed official corruption in their countries (who allegedly did make use of the Panama Papers). From these assertions, Plaintiff concludes that "[i]t is likely [he] would be treated in similar fashion by such state actors." He avers, based on the Russian docudrama, that "President Putin wants [him] dead." Plaintiff further maintains that "identification of [his] true identity would immediately expose dozens of individuals to likely physical harm."

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High Court, High Stakes for Cybersecurity

Episode 488 of the Cyberlaw Podcast

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The Supreme Court heard argument last week in two cases seeking to overturn the Chevron doctrine, which requires courts to defer to administrative agencies in interpreting the statutes that the agencies administer. The cases have nothing to do with cybersecurity, but Adam Hickey thinks they're almost certain to have a big impact on cybersecurity policy.  That's because, based on the argument, Chevron is going to take a beating from the Court, if it survives at all. With Chevron weakened, it will be much tougher to repurpose existing law to deal with new regulatory problems. Given how little serious cybersecurity legislation has been passed in recent years, any new regulation is bound to require some stretching of existing law – and thus to be easier to challenge.

Case in point: Even without a new look at Chevron, the EPA was balked in court when it tried to stretch its authorities to justify cybersecurity rules for water companies. Now, Kurt Sanger tells us, EPA, FBI, and CISA have combined to release cybersecurity guidance for the water sector.  The guidance may be all that can be done under current law, but it's pretty generic; and there's no reason to think that underfunded water companies will actually take it to heart. Given Iran's demonstrated interest in causing aggravation and maybe worse in that sector, Congress is almost certainly going to feel pressure to act on the problem.

CISA's emergency cybersecurity directives to federal agencies are coming fast and furious. That's a bad sign, since they are a library of flaws that are already being exploited. As Adam points out, they also reveal just how quickly patches are being turned into attacks and deployed. I wonder how sustainable the current patch system will prove to be. (In fact, it's already unsustainable; we just don't have anything to replace it.)

Here's some good news. The Russians have been surprisingly bad at turning cybersecurity flaws into serious infrastructure problems even for a wartime enemy like Ukraine. Additional information about Russia's attack on Ukraine's largest telecom provider suggests that the cost to get infrastructure back was lower than expected and mostly consisted of spending to win the victim telco's customers back.

Companies are starting to report breaches under the new, tougher SEC rule, Adam tells us, and Microsoft is out of the gate early.  Russian hackers stole the company's corporate emails, Microsoft says, but it insists the breach wasn't material. I predict we'll see a lot of such hair splitting as companies adjust to the rule. If so, Adam predicts, we're going to be drowning in 8ks.

Kurt notes recent FBI and CISA warnings about the national security threat posed by Chinese drones. The hard question is what's new in those warnings. A question about whether antitrust authorities might want to investigate DJI's enormous market share leads to another about the FTC's utter lack of interest in getting guidance from the executive branch when its jurisdiction overlaps with a national security concern. Case in point:  After listing a boatload of "sensitive location data" that should not be sold, the FTC had nothing to say about the personal data of people serving on US military bases.  Nothing "sensitive" there, the FTC seems to think, at least not compared to homeless shelters and migrant camps. I'm gobsmacked, which naturally leads to a new Cybertoon.

Michael Ellis takes us through Apple's embarrassing failure to protect users of its Airdrop feature. It comes on top of Apple's decision to live down to the worst Big Tech caricature in handling the complaints of app developers about its app store. Michael explains how Apple managed to beat 9 out of 10 claims in Epic's lawsuit and still end up looking like the sorest of losers.

Adam is encouraged by a sign of maturity on the part of OpenAI, which has trimmed its overbroad rules on not assisting military projects.

Michael takes us inside a new US surveillance court just for Europeans, and we end up worrying about the risk that the Obama administration will come back to impose new law on the Biden team.

Adam explains yet another European Court of Justice decision on GDPR.  This time it's a European government in the dock.  The result is the same, though: national security is pushed into a corner, and the data protection bureaucracy takes center stage.

Finally, we end with a sad disclosure. While bad cyber news will continue, cyber-enabled day drinking will not. Uber has announced the end of Drizly, its liquor delivery app.

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Upcoming Talks and Presentations

Talks and presentations on delegation, Chevron, climate change and the future of environmental law.

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Just a quick post to note some upcoming talks and presentations, some of which may be of interest to readers.

  • This Thursday, January 25, I will be a panelist at the Pacific Legal Foundation conference, Doctrinal Crossroads: Major Questions, Nondelegation & Chevron Deference, at Harvard Law School. The program is co-sponsored by the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy which will be publishing the papers from the conference. Other speakers include Gary Lawson, Michael Rappaport, Jed Shugerman, Alison Somin, and Paul Ray. Former White House counsel Don McGahn is giving a lunchtime keynote, and panel moderators include Judges Neomi Rao, Greg Katsas, Michael Park, and Paul Matey. Registration info is here.
  • Tuesday, January 30 I will be a panelist on the Solomon Center for Health Law and Policy program, Loper and Chevron in the Court: The Fate of Deference to Administrative and Scientific Expertise at Yale Law School. Other panelists are Blake Emerson, Andrew Pincus, and Reshma Ramachandran. The program is co-sponsored by American Constitution Society at Yale Law School and Yale Federalist Society.
  • Monday, February 19, I'll be speaking on The Next Big Abortion Rights Case (FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine) at a Zaremski Law Medicine Forum with my colleague Prof. Jessie Hill here at the CWRU School of Law.
  • Friday, February 23, I will be presenting at the Ohio State Law Journal's 2024 Symposium, What Next? The Rise, Fall, and Future of American Environmental Law. I do not yet know who the other speakers are, but I'll update this post when I have that information.
  • Saturday, April 13, I will be presenting at the Drake Constitutional Law Center's 2024 Constitutional Law Symposium, "Climate Change, the Environment, and Constitutions." Other speakers will include Jerry Anderson, Michael Gerrard, and Erin Daly.
  • Friday, May 10, I will speak on a panel on marijuana legalization at the 2024 Eleventh Circuit Judicial Conference in Point Clear, Alabama. My co-panelists will be Jonathan Robbins and Jesse Panuccio.

"Officer of the United States" in Context

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I have not been deep in the weeds of the arguments about Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, unlike my constitutional law casebook coauthors: Mike Paulsen, Michael McConnell, and Will Baude. But it is surprising to me that the former President of the United States seems to be putting most of his legal eggs in one basket—the argument that the President is not an "officer of the United States." This is the lead argument in the brief available here. And for reasons I cannot understand—as a matter of legal principle—this argument is now being advanced by various conservative legal luminaries.

Three observations:

1. The textual arguments advanced in the brief are weak, but the fundamental problem is a lack of sophistication about the interplay between semantics and context. Here is an example from pages 23-24: "every time this phrase appears in the Appointments Clause, the Commissions Clause, and the Impeachment Clause it excludes the President and refers only to appointed and commissioned officers rather than elected officials."

But it is not "this phrase" that excludes. In the Appointments Clause and the Commissions Clause, it is the context that makes clear that the President is not in view, because the President is not appointing or commissioning himself. It is not the semantic content of "officer of the United States."

By analogy, if I were to host a dinner for all of my colleagues at Notre Dame Law School, and I said "all law faculty are welcome, but none are obligated to be there," would I be saying that I, as the host, was not obligated to be there? Of course I would be obligated. Would I therefore be saying that I was not "law faculty"? No. My usage would not be advancing a narrow view of the semantic domain of "law faculty"; I would instead be using the phrase in a context that indicated that I was obviously excluded.

And in the Impeachment Clause it is not even the case that the phrase excludes the President, since it merely has an overlap with a very good reason for the additional specification. It is so important to make clear that the President and Vice President may be impeached—no small point against the background of royal prerogative power in England—that they are spelled out specifically. That does not mean they are not officers, and the brief's suggestion that "all other civil officers" would have to be used does not fit the legal drafting culture of the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. To give another example from that legal drafting culture, "necessary and proper" and "necessary or proper" and "necessary and appropriate" and so on all meant exactly the same thing (the sort of thing I explored here). This general point also weighs against any attempt to cut hyper-fine distinctions between an "officer of the United States" and an "office under the United States."

2. So is Section 3 such a context where the President is excluded? And here the argument in the former President's brief runs straight into the buzz-saw of what we could call the Andrew Johnson Problem. It is hard to imagine that the Reconstruction Congress that proposed Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, and the state legislatures that ratified it—in the middle of an intense struggle with President Andrew Johnson, and focused on all the problems that could come from a President who was not on board with reconstruction—would say that the two people who should be allowed to be Confederates would be the President and Vice President. We can retrofit plausible explanations for why the President and Vice President might be different (e.g., the Lessig argument here). But the Reconstruction Congress was in the middle of fighting tooth and nail with Andrew Johnson. That Congress thought President Johnson was imperiling all that the Union soldiers fought for. Was that Congress creating an exception for President Johnson? The burden of proof for showing that they were in fact doing that is so massive that it could not be met except with the clearest possible evidence.

3. The argument on page 23 of the brief that a presidential oath to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution" is not an oath to "support" the Constitution is risible. Try explaining it to a child. It is an argument that should be treated with derisive scorn by everyone who encounters it. It is the kind of magic-words literalism that is the reason people think they hate lawyers. Justice Scalia once said that if he accepted a certain argument "I would hide my head in a bag." That is a fitting response to the argument that the presidential oath does not require the President to support the Constitution.

Campus Free Speech

Mandatory DEI Trainings and Academic Freedom

A recent story out of the University of Wisconsin Law School offers an opportunity to consider the potential tensions between mandatory Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) trainings and academic freedom, particularly in legal education.

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[The heading of what appears to be one of the items included in the mandatory training.]

[I'm delighted to pass along this very interesting reporting and analysis by Prof. Alan Rozenshtein (Minnesota). -EV]

According to the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty (WILL), a conservative advocacy group, the University of Wisconsin Law School conducted a mandatory 1L "reorientation DEI session" last week for which students had to fill out a "race timeline worksheet" with "7 significant moments at least" of "significant life events around race" and read a worksheet listing 28 "common racist attitudes and behaviors," including views like "I'm colorblind" and "We have overcome." A student who attended the session confirmed to me that WILL's reporting was broadly accurate.

I reached out to the University of Wisconsin Law School and received the following statement:

Friday's session on diversity, equity, and inclusion for second semester 1L students was held in partial fulfillment of ABA Standard 303's requirement that law schools provide education to their students on "bias, cross-cultural competency, and racism."

The session was interactive, with ample opportunities for students to engage in dialogue with each other. A core goal was to help students develop their critical thinking skills with respect to these topics.

We do not expect students to automatically accept the views expressed in the document referred to, any more than they would the reasoning of a legal brief, judicial opinion, or their professors. Intellectual and academic freedom are core values of the Law School.

Accordingly, we welcome and encourage vigorous debate over important questions of law and policy, and this session provided a forum for such discourse.

My goal is not to adjudicate between the competing accounts of the session, and indeed different good-faith observers can characterize the same event differently. More questions would need to be answered to properly evaluate a DEI session, such as: were a range of readings provided that offered a different perspective on race and racism; to what extent was the format of the session that of a training or rather an open-ended discussion; and, if the latter, was the environment such that students were comfortable expressing views contrary to those expressed in the worksheet, by the person leading the session, and by other students?

It's a problem if the answer to these questions is no. Some concerns are legal: WILL argues that such trainings would violate civil rights law and create a hostile environment (see, for example, a recent court case upholding a lawsuit against Penn State for particularly extreme DEI trainings). Others are substantive: it's jarring, especially a week after Martin Luther King Jr. Day, to read that the statement, "Character, not color, is what counts with me," is a "detour or wrong turn into white guilt, denial or defensiveness." And then there is the practical issue of whether such training might in fact backfire.

But I want to focus on a different point: that an educational institution committed to academic freedom and free inquiry should not use mandatory trainings to impose contested moral claims (again, without taking a position on the specifics of how the Wisconsin session was conducted). This principle is especially important for law schools, which are, after all, in the business of training future lawyers who will need to be able to consider all sides of an argument rather than dogmatically accept one view or another.

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Politics

Paul Taylor's Six-Part Substack Series: Where Did the Racial Boxes People Check on Forms Come From?

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If you don't have the time or inclination to read my book, Classified: The Unknown Story of Racial Classification in America, attorney Paul Taylor provides a thorough summary, along with some commentary, at his (excellent) Substack.

Part 1 The illogical and politically-motivated process that led to the creation of official U.S. government racial classifications.

Part 2 The origins of America's arbitrary racial classification systems.

Part 3 (the very strange case of the "Hispanics" Classification)

Part 4 White Ethnic Groups and Black Immigrants

Part 5 How Are Children of Multi-Racial Parents Classified

Part 6 When arbitrary racial categories are used in unscientific ways, science suffers.

Nikki Haley and Donald Trump

Could the race go on until the Convention?

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Suppose that Nikki Haley loses to Donald Trump by 15% in New Hampshire and also loses her home state of South Carolina by a big margin.  Will she necessarily drop out of the race?  It seems unlikely.

A number of states that will vote on Super Tuesday offer Haley much friendlier territory then do New Hampshire or South Carolina.  California, Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Vermont, and Virginia all vote on Tuesday, March 5th.  Haley could very well beat Trump in some or even in all of these states.

Trump, who is 77, might have a sudden health problem or be convicted of one of the 91 felonies he has been charged with.  This could totally upend the race.

In the 1980, Republican primaries George H.W. Bush stayed in the race until May 26, 1980 hoping for a lucky break.  Haley has every incentive to do the same thing.  She has quite rightly promised to pardon Trump of any of the Fake Crimes he has been charged with.  Maybe voters will give her the chance to do that.

Communism

Remembering Lenin—the First Great Communist Mass Murderer

On the 100th anniversary of his death, it's worth recalling that almost all the worst features of communist totalitarianism began under Lenin, not Stalin and other successors.

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Vladimir Lenin (Soviet propaganda poster). (NA)

 

Today is the 100th anniversary of the death of Vladimir Lenin, the first leader of the Soviet Union, the world's first communist state. While Lenin's successor Joseph Stalin has few modern Western defenders (even as the current Russian government has tried to rehabilitate him), Lenin still has many admirers among Western leftists. They tend to ignore the great evil he did or blame it on Stalin.

Nothing can be further from the truth. Most of the cruel oppressive features of Soviet totalitarianism actually began under Lenin. Stalin merely perpetuated them on a larger scale.

Let's take a little history quiz. Which of the following features of the Soviet state were first introduced under Lenin, and which by Stalin:

1. The Gulag system of slave labor camps

2. The Cheka (secret police agency eventually known as the KGB)

3. Collectivization of agriculture leading to mass famines

4. Mass executions with little or no due process

5. A one-party state, with bans on all opposition parties (including socialist ones)

6. Suppression of freedom of speech and religion

7. Confiscation of private businesses, including even small businesses

8. Invading other nations in order to spread communism there

9. State control of the media for purposes of promoting regime propaganda, and preventing distribution of opposition speech

If you answered Lenin, you were correct in every case! And virtually every one of these measures was also supported by Trotsky, Bukharin, and other Bolshevik leaders whom some Western leftists like to trumpet as potentially superior alternatives to Stalin. Had Trotsky rather than Stalin come to power after Lenin's death, he would have happily continued all of the above, and in some cases doubled down on it.

Policies 3 and 7 on this list were partially suspended or reversed under Lenin's New Economic Policy, beginning in 1921. But Lenin and other Soviet leaders were always clear that this was just a temporary expedient they intended to reverse as soon as possible.

The late Harvard historian Richard Pipes has an excellent overview of Lenin's oppressive policies and their consequences in his book Russia Under the Bolshevik Regime.

It's also worth noting that Lenin was the one who elevated Stalin to the position of General Secretary of the Communist Party, thereby greatly increasing the likelihood that Stalin would ultimately succeed him. It's unlikely Lenin would have done that if the two men had major disagreements on ideology and policy.

Did Stalin engage in any new forms of repression? Yes, as a matter of fact, he did:

1. Deportation of entire ethnic groups (most notably the Crimean Tatars). I doubt Lenin would have had scruples about this if he thought it might be useful. But he didn't actually do it, at least not on a large scale.

2. State-sponsored anti-Semitism. There was no shortage of anti-Semitism in Lenin's USSR. But Lenin didn't actively promote it and probably wasn't an anti-Semite himself. He even occasionally condemned anti-Semitism. On this issue, Stalin was much worse.

3. Large-scale purges of loyal communists. Lenin never did this, and Trotsky probably would not have had he come to power. This is the Stalinist policy that most alienated many Western leftists. How dare Stalin kill communist heroes like Trotsky, Bukharin, and others? But it was among the least of Stalin's crimes. Many of Stalin's communist victims were actually brutal oppressors themselves, and arguably got what they deserved (albeit, for the wrong reasons, and without due process). In fairness, Stalin also purged a lot of communists who weren't actively involved in repression, but just joined the Party to advance their careers (you can say the same thing about many Germans who joined the Nazi Party after it came to power).

If you add it all up, Lenin was the one who initiated the policies that caused about 90% of the repression and death in the Soviet Union. And these ideas weren't idiosyncratic to Lenin. They were backed by the vast majority of other communist leaders, as well, which is why later communist regimes tended to adopt similar policies to those of the Soviet Union and got similar results. Mao Zedong managed to exceed the Soviet Union in sheer numbers of victims  (he had a much larger population to work with). Cambodia's Pol Pot killed a higher percentage of his population in a shorter period of time, and arguably managed to exceed both the Soviets and Chinese in sheer torture and cruelty. But these mass murderers were, on major issues, still largely following the model first established by Lenin.

With a few notable exceptions listed above, Stalin mostly just continued and expanded Lenin's evil policies. Ultimately, the root of the evil here wasn't the personality of any one leader, but the ideology Lenin, Stalin, and their comrades all sought to implement. But Lenin was nonetheless notable for being the first to lead a regime that pursued these policies, and set an example for all that followed. That is how we should remember him.

Can the NYS Thruway Ban Chick-fil-A?

A bill would require fast-food restaurants on the state highway to open seven days a week

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I've never been to a Chick-fil-A. But people love the place. In fact, according to surveys, Chick-fil-A is the most popular fast-food restaurant in America, and has been for a long time. But the company has irritated progressives over the years because of its owners' Baptist convictions, including their once vocal opposition to same-sex marriage. New York Mayor Bill DeBlasio at one point urged city residents to boycott the chain. The controversies have died down–mostly, I think, because Chick-fil-A has backed off some of its less popular public policy stands.

A bill currently under consideration in the NYS Legislature makes clear that progressive irritation with Chick-fil-A hasn't gone away entirely. Chick-fil-A restaurants close on Sundays for religious reasons, including seven Chick-fil-A franchises at rest stops on the NYS Thruway. The bill, sponsored by progressive Assembly Member Tony Simone, would put an end to Chick-fil-A on the Thruway, at least with respect to future concessions. Going forward, contracts for rest-stop concessions would require vendors to open seven days a week.

Simone argues that hungry drivers are on the Thruway every day of the week and need places to stop and eat. That makes sense. On the surface, the bill would seem to be a classic, "neutral and generally applicable" law that wouldn't cause problems under the Free Exercise Clause. Any effect on businesses like Chick-fil-A that close one day a week for religious reasons would be incidental and constitutionally unobjectionable.

But the bill is less neutral than first appears. The text of the bill targets Chick-fil-A's Sunday closing policy specifically, by name. The evil the bill seeks to remedy seems not the fact that some restaurants on the Thruway operate fewer than seven days a week to the inconvenience of motorists, but that one restaurant, in particular, does so, in order to observe the Christian sabbath. Chick-fil-A could argue plausibly that the bill doesn't qualify as neutral, but singles out religious observance–theirs–for disfavored treatment.

If that's the case, the bill would have to survive strict scrutiny, and it's not clear it could. Every rest stop on the Thruway has several fast food concessions, some of which have reduced hours on weekends. And at every rest stop, at least one concession is open 24/7. Hungry drivers thus have an option every day of the week. What would be the compelling state interest in requiring every other concession to be open every day of the week as well?

These are judgment calls and courts could go either way. But I suspect this bill will go nowhere. The state no doubt gets a lot of tax revenue from Chick-fil-As at rest stops, even if they're only open six days a week–and besides, most drivers would probably prefer having the option of Chick-fil-A six days a week to not having it at all. But, like I say, I've never been to Chick-fil-A.

Are You a Librarian in a Public or School Library? Or Do You Know One Who Might Be Willing to Talk with Me?

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I'm writing up a longish blog post about some controversies related to the "weeding" of books in public libraries and in public school libraries—which is to say, removal of books from library collections—and I'd love to talk to librarians who actually have some experience with this process.

I've reviewed Rebecca Vnuk's The Weeding Handbook and various online resources, such as CREW: A Weeding Manual for Modern Libraries. and the California Department of Education's Weeding the School Library: The Counterpart to Selection. I've also reached out to the American Library Association and some other groups that have expressed views on the subject.

But I'd also like to talk to people who actually do weeding themselves, or have seen it done, and ask them some questions about the process. If you or a friend of yours would be willing to chat by Zoom, phone, or e-mail, please e-mail me at volokh at law.ucla.edu.

Also, if you have some comments about how the weeding process actually operates—based on your personal knowledge or reliable second-hand knowledge—or recommendations for other publications I can review or groups I can ask, please post them in the comments. But please focus on such information, rather than debating what the process ought to be or criticizing particular kinds of weeding decisions or policies. You'll have plenty of opportunity to debate these matters when I put up my post, likely within the next week or two. At this point, I'm just trying to gather information that will help make my post as accurate, informative, and balanced as possible. Thanks!

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