Rules
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Generally be a nice person
Generally be a nice person
If you insult, harass, belittle or behave in any other rude or antisocial manner, you will be removed from this subreddit. Antisocial manner obviously includes: bigotry, racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, fat-shaming, body-shaming, ableism; but also personal attacks and call-outs. Users, please report any activity you find to be toxic to the mods. Also: we all are on the internet - it is important to word our contributions carefully, especially on a subreddit to do with body image.
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Stereotyping of Image IDs
Stereotyping of Image IDs
In the light of recent events and a large wave of misinformation about the Image IDs coming from TikTok/Social Media any comments/posts portraying any ID in a negative light or spreading stereotypes about any image ID will be deleted, and the poster's second rule-break will result in a one month ban. Please take the time to learn about the system and come back. These stereotypes are hurtful and misleading. Should the behaviour continue, a permanent ban will be issued.
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Minimum karma and account age
Minimum karma and account age
To protect the safety of this sub's users, we have implemented minimum karma and account ages to mitigate against creepy/NSFW accounts. You need to meet the minimum karma (+50) and account age (one month) criteria in order to participate. Your posts/comments will not show up if your karma is under 50 and/or your account is less than one month old.
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Type Me posts are not allowed.
Type Me posts are not allowed.
If your post is created with the sole purpose of asking commenters to type you, it will be removed.
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No "what is my essence" posts
No "what is my essence" posts
In the Kibbe system, your essence is part of your image ID. If you are interested in other essence systems, r/dressforyourbody or r/johnkitchener are more appropriate subreddits.
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No nudity/NSFW posts
No nudity/NSFW posts
Bikini, nude, underwear photos are not permitted. The only exceptions are celebrity posts, as long as there is no nudity. The system is about a holistic image and how you look in clothing tells far more than how you look outside of them. Posting nude will result in an immediate ban.
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No posts about the test
No posts about the test
The test isn't accurate and almost everyone gets TR or SC. For this reason, posts about interpreting test answers will be removed.
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Don't correct people's image IDs/ don't suggest an image ID on outfit posts
Don't correct people's image IDs/ don't suggest an image ID on outfit posts
Don't correct people on their image ID in outfit posts and don't suggest image IDs when someone is simply showing their outfit. Multiple infractions will result in a temporary ban.
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Report posts that are against the rules, do not comment on them
Report posts that are against the rules, do not comment on them
Users that repeatedly offer helpful commentary to posts that are against the rules will receive a warning and a temporary ban of 3 days if they don't comply with the warning.
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This is a community to specifically discuss David Kibbe's work
This is a community to specifically discuss David Kibbe's work
We are not a general fashion or makeup subreddit. So, with the aim of being as useful as possible in mind, please stick to making posts on the sub that are relevant to Kibbe's work. And of course, respectful debates and discussions are wholly welcome; while we discuss Kibbe we don't require our users to agree with him on everything.
Don't tell people that their post belongs on r/kibbecirclejerk
Don't post exercises, quotes, or photos from strictly kibbe
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No spam and no politics
No spam and no politics
Spamming includes at least one of the following:
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Posts that you have no intention of participating in.
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Repetitive posts about the same topic or celebrity.
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Multiple posts in a row.
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Self-promotion.
Please limit posts of the exact same topic to 2 per day.
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Inappropriate behavior will result in a ban
Inappropriate behavior will result in a ban
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This includes things such as sending creepy DMs or leaving creepy comments and posting photos of yourself naked or posed in an inappropriate way.
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The mods have the right to ban any behavior they consider inappropriate. -Blocking a mod will also result in a ban
Introduction
This is a community dedicated to discussing the work of David Kibbe. David Kibbe is best known for his work as a stylist and image consultant in New York City. In 1987 he published his acclaimed book, Metamorphosis: Discover Your Image Identity and Dazzle as Only You Can. In his book he discusses the 13 (now 10) Image Identities, based on the Old Hollywood Archetypes, and how one can embody these style archetypes through their clothing and essence. David’s work differs from other styling systems that seek to “correct” one’s body into a conventional hourglass. Instead, he seeks to harmonize with one’s natural yin-yang balance by having their clothing imitate their natural shapes in their silhouette. The Kibbe system is about creating a style that is authentically you, embracing your natural features and enhancing them.
The Kibbe system is a tool to help people learn the importance of creating a head-to-toe look and occasion for which you are dressing. Additionally, it will teach you about your accommodations and how clothing interacts with you body. This system is a tool to develop your style, not a body typing system. It takes a holistic view of the body and help us to have “enlightened subjectivity” when looking at ourselves. The journey may be long, but will result in a better understanding of personal style.
Disclaimer
This is a body positive sub, and Kibbe's styling system is body positive. If you are looking for hot & not "body types", then it might not be for you - none of the Image IDs are a negative one. If you are looking for which IDs are more "feminine", then again, this might not be the system for you; and yin/yang do not equate feminine/masculine in their original meaning, nor in the Kibbe system appropriated meaning. This sub is NOT affiliated with vindicta, redpill, and the like.
N.1 misconception clarified
Book extracts
Please note: The book contains some bits that are considered outdated today.
Visual glossary
Visual glossary regarding styling, however ~unofficial~ :)
Image IDs are not aesthetics
Breaking stereotypes: TR’s in playful aesthetic and SG’s in glam aesthetic
Breaking stereotypes: romantics in suits, dramatics in floral dresses
Breaking stereotypes: classics in animated/detailed styles VS gamines in simple/classic styles
Breaking stereotypes: naturals in non-boho styles. Ft. Other families in boho
Breaking stereotypes: Gamines in non-preppy aesthetics, everyone else dressed preppy
Resources
(There are no "body types", it is Image Identities. The test was never intended for "typing". It is not a prescriptive system etc. No boxes. No stereotypes.)
Rita is someone who has gone to see David Kibbe herself.
Please note: There's a lot of other YT channels and blogs on Kibbe out there, however, a lot of them are inaccurate, especially when they mainly use the test - which was never intended for "typing" - to work backwards/reverse engineer the Image ID's characteristics. Even those who have access to the (now outdated) book fail to interpret terms like "true hourglass" with the silent generation context in mind (where it refers to round shapes coming from the flesh, not WHR). They also fail to interpret the clothing descriptions - which come from an 80s book referring to Old Hollywood concepts. Example: a dress with a loosely defined waist is this, not this.
An amazing post on fabric and dressing for your own lines.
A Facebook group where David Kibbe is active himself; contains a lot of resources for learning about the system and dressing for your own silhouette; updated info and clarifications in regards to the now outdated book.
Helpful threads
From the main menu: Kibbe Glossary - Silhouette Terms - How to Outfit? - Black List
(an introduction)
(on diversity within the IDs - they are not boxes within which all people must look the same)
Why the feedback on your image ID help posts should be taken with a grain of salt
What are “personal lines” and why we should use those instead of “FG/D/R etc. lines”
(on using Kibbe as a tool, not a way of putting people into boxes)
(on Kibbe vertical line)
(on Kibbe width)
(verifieds from all the IDs of a similar height)
(on misconceptions)
(on misconceptions)
(on Kibbe essence)
(on Kibbe essence)