Big fan of Nick Cave ever since I first heard The Birthday Party. But, me being a true pedant, even Nick is not immune to my fernickittiness. Although it hasn't tainted my love of Nick's work in general, this has been bugging me since September 2004. In the song There She Goes, My Beautiful World from the album Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus Cave declares:
JohnnyThunders was half alive
when he wrote Chinese Rocks...
As any fule kno Douglas Glenn Colvin (1951-2002) aka Dee Dee Ramone and Richard Lester Meyers (b1949) aka Richard Hell, wrote the song Chinese Rock(s) in 1976.
What happened is really clear, and the songwriting credits can all be checked at BMI. The song is by me and Dee Dee, but Dee Dee did 75 percent of it. I mean, all I did was write two verses out of three. Dee Dee wrote the music, the concept was his. He's basically responsible for it. But he brought me the song; he didn't even know Johnny and Jerry, but we were friends and he thought the band was great. And when the Ramones didn't want to do the song he said, 'Look, I've written one verse of this song with the chorus and it's about heroin, how about you write the rest of it and it's yours?
Richard Hell (2005)
Dee Dee gives us a version 2:30 into the video...
Showing posts with label Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Show all posts
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22.4.12
2.6.09
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds- Peel Session 28th March 1984
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This is an early incarnation of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, who have remarkably now been with us for 25 years.
Barry Adamson, formerly of Magazine, holds it all together with some solid bass, whilst Blixa Bargeld, the guitar hating guitar hero once described as having the look of a badly embalmed corpse, deconstructs the role of guitar in rock music.
Nick Cave –vocals
Hugo Race -guitar
Mick Harvey -drums
Barry Adamson -bass
Blixa Bargeld -guitar
Labels:
Nick Cave,
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds,
Peel Session
29.3.09
The Birthday Party- Mutiny EP (1983), Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds- In the Ghetto (7”) (1984)
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The Birthday Party- Mutiny EP (1983)
The demise of The Birthday Party.
Phil Calvert was ejected in 1982 and Mick Harvey moved to drums. When Tracy Pew was jailed for drunk driving and petty theft, Barry Adamson came in as a temporary replacement.
Late In 1982 tension between Nick Cave and Roland S Howard came to a head. Blixa Bargeld from the German band Einstürzende Neubauten was brought in to play guitar on the track Mutiny in Heaven. The Birthday Party eventually disbanded in late 1983, due in part to the split between Cave and Howard, and work and drug-related exhaustion.
Jennifer’s Veil is arguably the point at which The Birthday Party realised the peak of their potential. Its gothic narrative is typical of early Bad Seeds works. According to Amy Hanson in Kicking Against The Pricks The Birthday Party by now sounded like a cross between The Stooges, Dracula and John Milton on smack.
Line up:
Nick Cave- vocals
Tracy Pew- bass
Mick Harvey- drums
Roland S Howard- guitar
Blixa Bargeld- guitar.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds- In the Ghetto(7”) (1984)
The emergence of The Bad Seeds.
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In 1983, after some studio work Cave’s new band made their first public appearance on New Years Eve in Melbourne under the name Nick Cave - Man Or Myth?.
The band then briefly called themselves Nick Cave and the Cavemen before adopting the Bad Seeds moniker, in reference to the penultimate Birthday Party release, The Bad Seed E.P.
Bargeld and Adamson’s replacement of Howard and Pew was stylistically very much a ‘like for like’.
Writing about rock music? The old man asked me, looking puzzled. Written about Elvis? I told him that no, I hadn’t written about Elvis. How can you write about rock music without writing about Elvis? The proposition was, he made it plain, frankly absurd.
So this is the first single from Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. A cover of an Elvis Presley single from 1969, this version was released in June 1984.
The Moon is in the Gutter is a Brechtian murder song that points the way to the Bad Seeds later work. Apparently Bargeld achieved one of his eerie sounds here by massaging the strings of his guitar with an electric shaver.
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Line up:
Nick Cave- vocals
Mick Harvey- drums
Blixa Bargeld- guitar
Barry Adamson- bass
Hugo Race- guitar
Labels:
7",
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds,
The Birthday Party
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