HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: I don’t understand cranberry sauce from a can. I know people love it, and they get those white and red tin cans, and open one end, and goosh out that cylindrical shape with the ridges encircling it.
And then pretend it’s cranberries.
I know there are even MOLDS you can buy to make your homemade cranberries have ridges!
A food found in nature would not behave like that. Cranberries are little round red things that, in the natural order of the universe, will just stay essentially little round red things, and not be tortured into some sort of forced aspic shape.
(And I know pumpkin pie does not look like a pumpkin, but let’s leave that for later since it’s not my point.)
Don’t get me wrong, I adore cranberries. Real cranberries, put into a sauce pan with water and triple sec, and sugar and orange rind. And boiled, until they make simple syrup. Then poured into a crystal cut glass bowl and refrigerated and chilled until–voila. It becomes like a gorgeous chunky marmalade. Maybe add chopped walnuts.
This is a real plate from our last year's table. See the cranberries?
I have never tasted ridged cylindrical shaped/ produced from real-but-how-would -you-know cranberries. Is it like Jello? Or aspic? Or…those candies called Chuckles?
People seem to have opinions on this. What are yours, Reds and Readers?
Thursday, we will talk about stuffing. Dressing. Or whatever you call it. But today: ONLY cranberries. Or cranberry-type food items.
Let me take a moment to acknowledge the place where I live, now called Newton Massachusetts, was the home of the Massachusett tribe, for, according to some records, around 12,000 years.
LUCY BURDETTE: Hank! You’ve never tasted cranberry sauce from a can?? It’s the perfect accompaniment to Thanksgiving dinner. Period. I know people are very proud of their homemade cranberry sauce (Debs for example), but give me the jelly roll can with perfect ridges every time! I am going to spend my extra time saved by not making cranberry sauce on a mocha crunch pie.
Oh and I do adore Chuckles, but it’s more like grape jelly, only cranberry flavored if that helps?
RHYS BOWEN: Cranberry sauce is something I tend to forget to put on the table. I prefer the one with whole berries not the jellied tower of horror, but really if it’s not there I don’t notice. More important to me are stuffing and crispy roast potatoes, or creamy mashed potatoes and lots of lovely gravy.
Having not grown up with Thanksgiving I don’t obsess over all the required elements of the meal. Once I even served crab, much to the horror of our children.
DEBORAH CROMBIE: Do you know I don't think I've tasted the cranberry in a can since I was a child? I think I might have liked it then. I also remember there being some kind of relish on the TG table that I thought was gross, but I have no idea what the recipe had in it.
But somehow between then and now I fell hard for cranberries–the real berries that pop when you cook them and make the most gorgeous mess. (Do not splatter on clothes, however!) Of course you have to sweeten cranberries or you would be permanently puckered. The recipe I love calls for honey (along with jalapeno, loads of orange zest, black pepper, and vinegar) but I usually add a couple of teaspoons of brown sugar, too. It is my favorite thing on the entire table and sometimes the only thing I actually cook because I can't envision Thanksgiving without it.
JENN McKINLAY: Give me the jiggly tower of horror! I have never tasted a cranberry relish that I liked. Ick. Bleck. Nope. Also, I need it to stay in can shape for easy slicing. And when you make a turkey and stuffing sandwich the next day there is no substitute for the smear of cranberry jelly on the bread to bring all the flavors together! Yum!!!
JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: I hate to pile on, Hank, but I, too, use the canned stuff - although not the jiggly jelly. I buy the whole berry cranberry sauce, and if I’m feeling ambitious (and haven’t mucked up the timing so I’m cooking eight dishes at the same time) I’ll stir in some fresh orange segments and add a little mace or something.
The fact is, no one in my family really likes cranberry relish, so it’s pretty much out there for the guests. If they want some fancy recipe that starts with them wading through the bogs in Wareham, Mass, they can make and bring it themselves.
HALLIE EPHRON: YAY for the canned whole berry sauce!! I have *4* cans of it just in case the store runs out. And it’s *essential* for turkey and stuffing sandwiches the next day.
(Yes cranberries aren’t cylindrical-shaped, but neither is tuna, and yet….)
HANK: Like a pumpkin and pumpkin pie. Of course. Still. I mean--I really love actual authentic cranberry relish, and it's even good on oatmeal. But not the canned stuff with ridges. How about you, Reds and Readers? Where are you in the great cranberry debate?
A food found in nature would not behave like that. Cranberries are little round red things that, in the natural order of the universe, will just stay essentially little round red things, and not be tortured into some sort of forced aspic shape.
(And I know pumpkin pie does not look like a pumpkin, but let’s leave that for later since it’s not my point.)
Don’t get me wrong, I adore cranberries. Real cranberries, put into a sauce pan with water and triple sec, and sugar and orange rind. And boiled, until they make simple syrup. Then poured into a crystal cut glass bowl and refrigerated and chilled until–voila. It becomes like a gorgeous chunky marmalade. Maybe add chopped walnuts.
This is a real plate from our last year's table. See the cranberries?
I have never tasted ridged cylindrical shaped/ produced from real-but-how-would -you-know cranberries. Is it like Jello? Or aspic? Or…those candies called Chuckles?
People seem to have opinions on this. What are yours, Reds and Readers?
Thursday, we will talk about stuffing. Dressing. Or whatever you call it. But today: ONLY cranberries. Or cranberry-type food items.
Let me take a moment to acknowledge the place where I live, now called Newton Massachusetts, was the home of the Massachusett tribe, for, according to some records, around 12,000 years.
LUCY BURDETTE: Hank! You’ve never tasted cranberry sauce from a can?? It’s the perfect accompaniment to Thanksgiving dinner. Period. I know people are very proud of their homemade cranberry sauce (Debs for example), but give me the jelly roll can with perfect ridges every time! I am going to spend my extra time saved by not making cranberry sauce on a mocha crunch pie.
Oh and I do adore Chuckles, but it’s more like grape jelly, only cranberry flavored if that helps?
RHYS BOWEN: Cranberry sauce is something I tend to forget to put on the table. I prefer the one with whole berries not the jellied tower of horror, but really if it’s not there I don’t notice. More important to me are stuffing and crispy roast potatoes, or creamy mashed potatoes and lots of lovely gravy.
Having not grown up with Thanksgiving I don’t obsess over all the required elements of the meal. Once I even served crab, much to the horror of our children.
DEBORAH CROMBIE: Do you know I don't think I've tasted the cranberry in a can since I was a child? I think I might have liked it then. I also remember there being some kind of relish on the TG table that I thought was gross, but I have no idea what the recipe had in it.
But somehow between then and now I fell hard for cranberries–the real berries that pop when you cook them and make the most gorgeous mess. (Do not splatter on clothes, however!) Of course you have to sweeten cranberries or you would be permanently puckered. The recipe I love calls for honey (along with jalapeno, loads of orange zest, black pepper, and vinegar) but I usually add a couple of teaspoons of brown sugar, too. It is my favorite thing on the entire table and sometimes the only thing I actually cook because I can't envision Thanksgiving without it.
JENN McKINLAY: Give me the jiggly tower of horror! I have never tasted a cranberry relish that I liked. Ick. Bleck. Nope. Also, I need it to stay in can shape for easy slicing. And when you make a turkey and stuffing sandwich the next day there is no substitute for the smear of cranberry jelly on the bread to bring all the flavors together! Yum!!!
JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: I hate to pile on, Hank, but I, too, use the canned stuff - although not the jiggly jelly. I buy the whole berry cranberry sauce, and if I’m feeling ambitious (and haven’t mucked up the timing so I’m cooking eight dishes at the same time) I’ll stir in some fresh orange segments and add a little mace or something.
The fact is, no one in my family really likes cranberry relish, so it’s pretty much out there for the guests. If they want some fancy recipe that starts with them wading through the bogs in Wareham, Mass, they can make and bring it themselves.
HALLIE EPHRON: YAY for the canned whole berry sauce!! I have *4* cans of it just in case the store runs out. And it’s *essential* for turkey and stuffing sandwiches the next day.
(Yes cranberries aren’t cylindrical-shaped, but neither is tuna, and yet….)
HANK: Like a pumpkin and pumpkin pie. Of course. Still. I mean--I really love actual authentic cranberry relish, and it's even good on oatmeal. But not the canned stuff with ridges. How about you, Reds and Readers? Where are you in the great cranberry debate?