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The Golden Age (1948-1964)
Under the inspirational coach Syed Abdul Rahim, and amazing players like PK Banerjee, Chuni Goswami, Tulsidas Balaram, Mewalal, Neville D'Souza, Venkatesh etc Indian team had performed spectacularly throughout the 1950s and early 1960s. Their first introduction to world was in 1948 Olympics when they narrowly lost 1-2 to France while playing barefoot. After that, there was no stopping them. They won 2 gold medals in 1951 and 1962 Asiads, finished 4th in 1956 Olympics and also finished runners up in 1964 AFC Asian Cup.
However after the sudden death of coach Rahim in 1963 and with lots of those legendary players retiring within a few years, the national team declined. But even after declining, how could they never recover again? And also, how could football never have been popular in this country after all those success?
Well, the answer lies within AIFF. some of the decisions of AIFF during that period were beyond shocking.
Withdrawal from 1950 World Cup (Getting the priorities wrong)
I think this is known to most people by now. India did qualify for 1950 WC Brazil. And the groups were also decided. But at the last moment, AIFF decided to withdraw. Some rumours were that it was because FIFA banned playing barefoot which was false. The official reason was that AIFF simply lacked funds to travel. However, AIFF could have gathered funds if they tried enough.
Frankly speaking they didn't try enough because they got their priorities wrong. They prioritized 1952 Olympics over 1950 WC. And believe it or not, it was seen as a good decision at that time. The FIFA WC was not as significant as Olympics at that time because Olympic football were also senior tournament (now it is U23). And also outside South America, FIFA WC's popularity was still at a growing stage. However, you now know how bad this decision was. But wait, there's more... way way worse decisions to come...
Not taking part at the World Cup Qualifiers (1958-1982)
Because of the last minute withdrawal from 1950 World Cup, FIFA banned India from 1954 World Cup Qualifiers. Now, you might guess that after this AIFF would think calmly and try to solve the problems with FIFA... just kidding... AIFF got angry at FIFA and decided not to take part in World Cup Qualifiers Ever Again.
We did not take part in any WC Qualifiers until 1986 when AIFF finally got their head checked FIFA WC had not only become very popular but also had surpassed the Olympics in terms of importance.
The worst part of not playing WC Qualifiers was that you could not have a reality check against other top teams on how far you have fallen. And India also didn't play too many friendly games against top teams. And this is what the next segment is all about.
Splendid Isolation (1970-1980):
Along with their isolation from FIFA WC, India also decided not to take part in AFC Asian Cup Qualifiers from 1972 to 1980. And with football expanding rapidly in both West Asia and East Asia, India also failed to qualify ever again for Olympics since 1960.
So in reality, the only big competition India played during this long time was the Asian games. And frankly speaking with the increasing popularity of AFC Asian Cup, Asian games already took a back seat. And it was not like India did any great in Asian games either (expected given their isolation from big competitions). India also rarely faced big teams even in friendlies. They mostly kept playing against South Asian and ASEAN teams during this long period.
Unserious administration unlike other growing superpowers
1970s and 1980s were the revolutionary times for Asian football. At this time, the West Asian teams like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait were all taking football seriously and modernising. Same as East Asian teams like Japan, Korea, and even China.
For example, Japan had its first national football league started in 1965. From there, Japan never stopped in football. In India, the first national football league came in 1997!
During there was no league and instead AIFF relied on some state and city based leagues as their unofficial top leagues. There were very few leagues in India before 2000 - CFL, Goa League, Mumbai, Bangalore, Delhi and some others. So even after huge population, the scouting was practically done in this few regions of India.
Oh and you could forget about youth development.
Conclusion:
Many people ask me "why Indian football taking so much time to grow?". Well, it's because football is the most expensive and time consuming sport to grow. Mainly because of the vast amount of competition in the world unlike any other sport.
And even though football started in India way back, it only got serious attention in the late 2000s. So yeah... massive and continuous rebuild needed, especially in the grassroots.
Team | SI | SN | Y! | B/R | CBS | USA | NFL | ESPN | Avg | SD | CGPR | |
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1 | Philadelphia (0) | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1.0 | 0.0 | 1 |
2 | Kansas City (1) | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2.1 | 0.4 | 3 |
3 | Detroit (2) | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 3.8 | 1.0 | 4 |
4 | San Francisco (3) | 2 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4.0 | 1.3 | 9 |
5 | Baltimore (-3) | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 5.0 | 1.4 | 2 |
6 | Miami (2) | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 6.4 | 1.1 | 10 |
7 | Dallas (2) | 7 | 10 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7.0 | 1.6 | 8 |
8 | Cleveland (3) | 9 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 9 | 8 | 7.6 | 1.6 | 5 |
9 | Jacksonville (-5) | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 8 | 9 | 9.4 | 0.9 | 7 |
10 | Cincinnati (-4) | 6 | 14 | 12 | 10 | 12 | 10 | 12 | 10 | 10.8 | 2.4 | 12 |
11 | Seattle (1) | 11 | 11 | 10 | 11 | 9 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 10.9 | 1.1 | 14 |
12 | Houston (5) | 15 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 9 | 10 | 13 | 11.9 | 2.0 | 13 |
13 | Pittsburgh (0) | 13 | 7 | 15 | 14 | 14 | 12 | 13 | 12 | 12.5 | 2.4 | 11 |
14 | Minnesota (2) | 12 | 12 | 13 | 15 | 13 | 16 | 15 | 15 | 13.9 | 1.6 | 6 |
15 | Buffalo (-5) | 14 | 15 | 14 | 12 | 15 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14.0 | 0.9 | 15 |
16 | LA Chargers (-2) | 16 | 19 | 16 | 17 | 19 | 15 | 18 | 16 | 17.0 | 1.5 | 16 |
17 | New Orleans (-2) | 17 | 17 | 19 | 16 | 17 | 22 | 16 | 17 | 17.6 | 2.0 | 19 |
18 | Indianapolis (1) | 21 | 18 | 20 | 18 | 16 | 17 | 17 | 18 | 18.1 | 1.6 | 20 |
19 | Las Vegas (5) | 18 | 16 | 22 | 19 | 18 | 18 | 21 | 21 | 19.1 | 2.0 | 18 |
20 | Tampa Bay (1) | 22 | 20 | 21 | 20 | 23 | 21 | 19 | 19 | 20.6 | 1.4 | 22 |
21 | Denver (4) | 19 | 22 | 17 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 20 | 22 | 20.8 | 2.0 | 21 |
22 | NY Jets (-4) | 20 | 21 | 18 | 22 | 21 | 20 | 22 | 23 | 20.9 | 1.6 | 17 |
23 | Washington (-1) | 24 | 23 | 24 | 24 | 20 | 29 | 23 | 20 | 23.4 | 2.8 | 24 |
24 | Atlanta (-4) | 23 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 25 | 25 | 24 | 24 | 23.9 | 0.8 | 27 |
25 | Tennessee (-2) | 25 | 27 | 25 | 25 | 24 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 25.1 | 1.0 | 26 |
26 | LA Rams (1) | 27 | 26 | 27 | 26 | 26 | 19 | 27 | 25 | 25.4 | 2.7 | 25 |
27 | Green Bay (-1) | 26 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 27 | 26 | 26 | 27 | 26.3 | 0.7 | 23 |
28 | Arizona (4) | 28 | 29 | 29 | 28 | 29 | 27 | 29 | 28 | 28.4 | 0.7 | 30 |
29 | Chicago (0) | 31 | 28 | 28 | 29 | 28 | 28 | 28 | 29 | 28.6 | 1.1 | 28 |
30 | New England (-2) | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 31 | 30.1 | 0.4 | 29 |
31 | NY Giants (-1) | 29 | 31 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 32 | 31 | 30 | 30.9 | 1.0 | 31 |
32 | Carolina (-1) | 32 | 32 | 31 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 32 | 32 | 31.8 | 0.5 | 32 |
[SI] ( https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/11/14/week-10-power-rankings-lions-browns-49ers )
[CGPR] ( https://old.reddit.com/user/velociraptorfarmer/comments/17uuzt9/2023_week_10_nfl_power_rankings/ )
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Last night, the Bills Mafia seemed to be extremely loud hoping to give the disadvantage to the Broncos. However, Russell Wilson seemed unfazed by it.
I love watching the NFL game where the fans get into it. To the point, I cannot hear the commentators or rather hear the crowd noise instead.
To your memory, what are some game that showcased the loudest fan bases in the NFL?
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At the beginning of the season, the map is divided into 32 regions, each controlled by a team in the NFL. When a team defeats another team, if the defeated team controls any land, that land is taken by the winner.
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Territory Changes
The Bengals lost 2 territories to the Texans
The Chargers lost 8 territories to the Lions
The Jaguars lost 6 territories to the 49ers
The Ravens lost 14 territories to the Browns
Leaderboard
TEAM | # OF TERRITORIES |
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Browns | 14 |
Lions | 8 |
49ers | 6 |
Broncos | 2 |
Texans | 2 |
49ers, Browns, Jaguars and Lions have held the most territory this season (33).
Bears, Panthers, Patriots, Titans, and Vikings are tied for least territory held (1).
To get these scores, I gave each team a point for each territory they held per week (so if a team held 4 territories for 5 weeks, they would get 20 points)
Upcoming Battles
The 49ers are battling the Buccaneers
The Broncos are battling the Vikings
The Browns are battling the Steelers
The Lions are battling the Bears
The Texans are battling the Cardinals
Like there’s been at least 8 different games so far that have featured the Giants, the Jets, or the Bills…
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Since we've never really been in this position before, I just assume a lot of Michiganders used to have a mild interest in games outside of Lions world.
When you're a perennial loser team, you don't have a lot to contrast against.
I find myself checking stats, scores and everything else with a passion I've never had before.
Anyone else?
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