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[–]LeafsInSix 242 points243 points  (24 children)

The article is worth reading and I got a few interesting tidbits out of it such as:

- The facility at NRC is under construction and expected to be ready sometime this summer. It would produce about 2 million doses of Novavax (double-dose shot) per month.

- The NRC has tried unsuccessfully up to now to convince Big Pharma to allow for Canadian production of a coronavirus vaccine or even work on joint projects that research ways to improve manufacturing processes so that vaccine production would be even greater.

- Sanofi has a plant in Toronto which produces our vaccines of whooping cough, polio and tetanus while GSK has a plant in Quebec which produces most of our annual allotment of flu vaccines.

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[–]SecondAccount404 123 points124 points  (20 children)

ready this summer

That's genuinely pretty impressive.

[–]tmleafsfan 43 points44 points  (8 children)

Not going to see vaccines out of it until end of 2021, since HC needs to approve the facility.

https://twitter.com/AbigailBimman/status/1356664053888909313?s=20

[–]BluebirdNeat694 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Definitely not ideal, but given that there may need to be COVID vaccine boosters and adjustments (due to variants), it's still a good step. Not to mention potential vaccine development in the figure for whatever else pops up.

[–]arabacuspulp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yes, but it's likely that we will need boosters and different versions of this vaccine as new variants are found. It's great that we will be able to produce our own coronavirus vaccines domestically longterm.

[–]telmimore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But not great that this does nothing for us this year...

[–]Minute_Aardvark_2962[🍰] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

This doesn’t bode well considering the feds are still touting the September date where everyone will be vaccinated. I guess we’ll stop receiving vaccines shortly.

[–]tmleafsfan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Pfizer will do the bulk of carrying the load when it comes to vaccinating Canadians.

Lets see. Feds said Sept with only Moderna and Pfizer. So if J&J, AZN, Novavax are all approved, it should move up the date by at least a month.

[–]FencibleBritish Columbia 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The fact that we even have a vaccine this quickly is a scientific miracle. There have been lots of shitty things in the world over the last little while, but what humans can accomplish when we really put our mind to it (and are highly motivated) is truly damn impressive.

[–]ful8789 6 points7 points  (5 children)

‘Sometime’ a keep your fingers crossed as the facility has been under construction for awhile and has faced some delays.

[–]SirBobPeel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When was the last time a government building program didn't run behind schedule and over budget?

[–]Head_Crash 0 points1 point  (3 children)

The real delay is the approval of the vaccine itself.

[–]PanDerCakes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there’s absolutely 0 chance this will be ready by then, even1-2 years is optimistic

[–]Tarana1 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I’m surprised big pharma relented, they usually are quite annoyed with Canada because we won’t let them price gouge our citizens like our neighbours to the south. I’m sure there are leaps and bounds of improvements to insulin but I don’t think that necessitates a several orders of magnitude price increase for example.

[–]LeafsInSix 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Big Pharma must have felt that whatever deal the NRC was offering before just wasn't worth accepting. It'd follow that the NRC sweetened the deal enough so that at least Novavax accepted something now that'd allow for Canadian production. I can only guess what the sweetener(s) might have been (if it were to indeed exist).

The NRC is likely on a very tight leash to produce Novavax's vaccine. Taking your example with the difference in pricing between how it's done here and in the USA, maybe the contract between Novavax and the NRC forbids the export of any doses made here. Taking the thought process a little further along, the NRC might have initially left the deal open so that any production exceeding Canadian requirements could be sold to other countries. Yet to keep Novavax happy or convince it to allow for any production here, the NRC needed to take out that provision/request.

[–]Whyevenbotherbeing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s the latter, I’m certain. There’s gonna be a hot market in vaccines going forward. Especially since Covid is likely here to stay and boosters will be a thing. They will use this as a joint facility where Novovax can produce for sale to whoever. Which, honestly, is best because the financial incentive to keep the facility operating and current points towards a bright future.

[–]Qasem_SoleimaniOntario 19 points20 points  (1 child)

2 million doses of Novavax (double-dose shot) per month

24 million does a year is pretty good.

Novavax’s COVID-19 vaccine has achieved 89.3% efficacy in a phase 3 clinical trial that enrolled subjects exposed to the B.1.1.7 variant found in the U.K. However, the vaccine performed far worse in a smaller phase 2b that pitted it against another variant first identified in South Africa, intensifying concerns that updated prophylactics will be needed to protect against the evolving virus.

Sounds like this vaccine is going to need to be modified semi regularly going forward. Not sure what that means for phased trials.

[–]FlamingoerOntario 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it remarkable that the brand new mRNA vaccines were not only the fastest developed, but also appear to be the most effective.

[–]nfl5torbano 69 points70 points  (20 children)

Great to hear! Now just gotta get this vaccine approved! Hopefully it won't take too much work to get this plant geared up to manufacture this.

[–]whiteout86 34 points35 points  (19 children)

At least two months to approve Novavax and the plant won’t be finished until at least the summer

[–]MuchWowScience 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Canada is slatted to get doses from the Novavax plant in the UK in Q2

[–]Shjfty 38 points39 points  (9 children)

For those who didnt click:

  • Novavax's vaccine is about 2 months away from approval

  • the facility is still being built

  • it will only produce 2mil vaccines per month

  • trudeau signed a deal for 52 million of these vaccines

[–]-Yazilliclick- 18 points19 points  (1 child)

52 million purchased is not necessarily limited to ones produced here, in fact likely isn't.

[–]GrumpyOne1 12 points13 points  (6 children)

So basically they'll have all doses ordered by Fall 2023?

[–]rflynnster 38 points39 points  (2 children)

We also have Moderna & Pfizer vax coming in from offshore. My sense is that the federal government wants to have facilities & expertise in vaccine production in Canada. I endorse the investment in both aspects - facilities & expertise.

[–]Fyrefawx 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Yup. Soon enough we will have more than enough doses. I think this may end up being like flu shots which are needed every year so having this made in Canada is a massive win.

[–]Knowing_nateCanada 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It reminds me a lot of the situation with masks and other ppe at the start of the pandemic. Good to see we are actually building infrastructure and not just paying extra for imports so when the next pandemic hits we'll be more ready

[–]faizimamQuébec 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Currently Novavax is planned to ship from the USA. Using this new factory is a change.

[–]273degreesKelvin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It'll help with exporting to third world nations cause they'll still need billions in 2021. Also booster shots will almost be required for Covid as new variants mutate. Covid is never going away. It will keep spreading and mutating and we'll need to the manufacturing to quickly make booster shots to prevent future outbreaks.

[–]un-namica 30 points31 points  (9 children)

Canada is one of only a few advanced countries where independent vaccine strategy is of utmost importance. Why?

USA and EU showed middle fingers on Moderna and Pfizer rollouts. EU doesn't give a shit due to Canada's close ties with UK (remember Brexit?). UK is hoarding up AZ vaccine for its own use. Australia and Newzealand do not seem to be in a hurry for vaccine strategy since infections are coming down and other precautions are working well. Japan and South Korea too. This leaves Canada as the only advanced "large" economy with no success on vaccine strategy.

China said it will help faster rollouts to Canada (and other countries) - no news yet. CCP doesn't have a good reputation from other countries too in terms of living up to the promise of vaccine delivery.

That leaves India - the largest vaccine producer in the world. It has excess doses and delivering AZ vaccines to 30+ countries already. But JT is not in good terms with Modi - at least it seems like. Else he would have requested India already.

Its high time Canada should produce its own vaccine. But I wonder why Novavax - its not approved in any corner of the world - not even for emergency use.

[–]turbotop111 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I'm all for moderna and pfizer, bring it on. But if the only option is china vaccine vs no vaccine, yeah I'll take my chances with the virus.

[–]Read_That_Somewhere 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Lol no they didn’t. They developed and ordered the vaccines first. That’s it. You get what you pay for.

It’s first come, first served.

Notice how we just signed a deal with Novavax to manufacture doses here - an American company that wouldn’t have a vaccine without the US Government’s immense support. Novavax just completed their trial in the UK, that’s why we chose that one.

In the meantime, we are receiving doses. And they fully expect to stick to the original timeline.

India does not have excess doses - less than 1% of their population has even received it. They’re sending doses to countries as a way to counter China’s influence in the region because they don’t have to answer to their public like politicians here.

[–]un-namica 1 point2 points  (0 children)

India having excess doses isn't calculated on per capita lines. Its stated by measuring production speed relative to the speed of roll out to its population (as you said <1% vaccinated so far). They have excess production since the Serum Institute of India started manufacturing AZ vaccines back in September 2020. It is reported that they have over 50 Million stocks piled up already. And given SII has a huge plant (makes 60% of world's vaccines!), they have no issues to produce more as more Indians get vaccinated eventually. That's why it could export to other counties. Only some portion of doses are being donated to neighboring countries (like in 50k, 100k etc), but millions are being sent on commercial lines to Brazil, Middle East, Africa etc. There is no question of countering China there. CCP is countering itself by its fake promises on vaccine roll outs.

[–]phishstik 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I will never take a vaccine made in China, don't know anyone who would. I'm not sure why a year after this pandemic has started we just have news that we will make vaccines, in summer, maybe. Everyone is happy with this timeline? I hope the US border opens this summer because that's where many of us will be getting vaccinated.

[–]telmimore -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You're not the center of the universe. Countries on every continent are taking the Chinese vaccines. Plenty of people here would be happy to have some freedom again and not risk dying from Covid such as the elderly.

[–]Lt_486 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Justin can dress up as Indian and dance our problems away... He is experienced one.

[–]rootbeer_racinette 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody ever talks about the Russian vaccine but it’s also 90% effective, fairly cheap to produce, easy to store, and open to licensing.

I know “Russia bad” and whatnot but there’s a deadly pandemic.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00191-4/fulltext

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Canada showed middle fingers to everyone when it decided to invest FUCK ALL in research and development for a coronavirus vaccine.

[–]run4srun_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Maple flavor I hear!

[–]siddhant1999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for the announcement about production delays in a week

[–]moirende 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’ve been pretty vocal on my criticism for the federal government on the vaccine file, but this is unambiguous good news. It’s too bad they won’t likely be ready in time to really make a difference for 2021, but longer term as the virus evolves this will help give us the ability to create seasonal capacity to deal with that. Good job.

[–]sync-centre 2 points3 points  (5 children)

How many can we crank out a week?

[–]LeafsInSix 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When it's at full capability, about 500,000 per week.

Even though construction is expected to finish by summer, don't expect any production until much later in 2021 at the earliest because the Feds would still need to inspect and certify the completed facilities.

It'll also take at least a little time for the production lines to move up to full capacity. It's unrealistic to think that it'll be ready to go from 0 to 100 by producing 500,000 doses per week right after certification is granted, let alone after construction is finished.

[–]faizimamQuébec -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

500,000 a week starting in July.

[–]whiteout86 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That’s assuming that it is completed on time and the day they turn it on, they can operate at 100% capacity with no issues.

[–]Gboard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's basically how everything works (the assumption) even in existing facilities unless there's an issue that's already identified that we know will cause delays

No different than gaant chart we do at work. It's based on a set of assumptions and schedule we have at the time that's updated if we receive new information. This is simply because we need to assign a timeline.

Eg site plan approval takes 12 mths typically and what we allocate in our schedule. But that can of course change if we dig up artifacts, or there's delay in materials or etc..then it gets delayed .

[–]surferbloodz 16 points17 points  (30 children)

What about providence therapeutics who has a promising mRNA based vaccine?

They have essentially been begging the feds for money, and testing, and have been pretty much shot down since at least June 2020.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Perhaps there are legitimate reasons, like it's not as promising as they claim? I dunno, often there is a lot of back-end discussion the public doesn't know the details of.

[–]ful8789 8 points9 points  (11 children)

[–]LeafsInSix 5 points6 points  (7 children)

What's more is that the trials are for Phase 1 so Providence is unlikely to be relevant for taming this pandemic.

Medicago is further along by starting Phase 3 this month but it had been working on a vaccine for an upcoming (flu) pandemic since the days of Obama. However, it was also dogged by similar federal indifference for several years until Trudeau finally coughed up serious cash (~ $170 million) in October 2020.

[–]lancedragons 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I'm hoping that the current shortages will show the Federal Government that waiting for the next pandemic to fund vaccine production will be too late and actually fund some of these projects.

[–]LeafsInSix -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I hope so too.

Even without a pandemic, it'd be easier to convince the electorate about spending x millions of dollars per year for pandemic preparedness be it in maintaining a large and fresh stockpile of PPE or scalable domestic capacity in vaccine production rather than some virtue signalling or a PM's quasi-vanity project like donating $50 million to a charity for global children's education.

At least public support for this kind of pandemic preparation despite the initial outlay would be as high as it could ever be. This kind of preparation ought to be on any serious political party's platform for at least the next 10 or even 20 years given how much the lower 90% of society has been affected in one blow. It might even go to the point where pandemic expenditures would crowd out some of the expenditures made in the name of saving the environment.

[–]surferbloodz 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Hopefully they take it seriously.

Now that the money has been sunk into research and development there is really no excuse.

According to the CEO of providence, mRNA vaccines are much easier to mass produce than typical vaccines - it’s the clinical trials and making sure it’s safe that’s an issue. It’s touched on in the article that I linked above, I’ve quoted the important tidbits below:

"The amazing thing about messenger RNA because it's so quick to synthesize, you can make multiple versions, and you can adjust that as needed quickly, so we've already made three and we're running three different vaccines through animal models this week. And so then we'll take the best of those three, and we'll go into manufacturing with the idea of going into human clinical trials. This year, as early as September or October."

[–]surferbloodz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s kind of the point I was making. Back in June of 2020, they were asking for fed money to ramp up clinical trials and production.

See article below:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/calgary/2020/6/10/1_4979205.html

[–]Mine-Shaft-Gap 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I believe they have been given money. They do want more though.

[–]IndigoRubyCanada -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Providence is in the wrong province.

[–]Cb1receptor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Windsor needs work!

[–]Whyevenbotherbeing 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Let’s all say what we want about the Federal Government, because that is fair, but in my lifetime I’ve learned to be disappointed with pretty much any effort coming out of Ottawa YET this time around I find myself grudgingly admiring and supporting the Feds. I see them going hard and refusing to take the foot off the gas at a time when anything less would be fucking criminal. Now I know the size of target a comment like this presents but I just want to voice my support and admiration for a group who I see as fighting for us and our economy.

[–]propofolmeBritish Columbia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly think one form of covid will stick around and linger for years and we will be taking a yearly coronavirus shot along with a flu shot. So we will need to have our own supply come late 2021 and beyond.

[–]NotThatCrafty 5 points6 points  (38 children)

I'm not sure I understand the point. By the time this plant is up and running the government is already planning to have nearly everyone vaccinated thus making it redundant. At least for Covid

Edit: I understand the use for this in the future beyond this pandemic. All I'm saying is this isnt the silver bullet for this ongoing pandemic.

[–]nl6374 37 points38 points  (2 children)

It's also an insurance policy in case we don't get our contracted vaccines from overseas.

[–]ZweesyLest We Forget 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Also in case we don't need this insurance policy, Canada can provide these extra dosages to developing countries as a humanitarian effort.

I see this as a win/win

[–]Purplebuzz 35 points36 points  (0 children)

There will be future pandemics.

[–]jjjhkvanCanada 30 points31 points  (1 child)

More than likely you will need boosters in the years ahead.

[–]jadeddog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the best answer. They are already working on a booster to more specifically target the SA variant at this very company. There are also very likely to be other variants that pop up before all of this is over. Boosters are going to be needed.

[–]Possible_Expert568 7 points8 points  (4 children)

This was the closest to a silver bullet we could have conjured up, given where we started. Had the French vaccine panned out we might have been able to produce for sanofi but we had no existing ties to Moderna or Pfizer that would have made them likely to license it to us straight off the bat. And their technology isn’t something we currently had — it’s new and still uncommon.

It’d be nice if we’d had a facility before now, but we spun this up relatively fast. It won’t fix our current problems with supply, but it is good insurance against any problems with supply still affecting us next winter, so I’ll take it.

I’m very happy to know we are less likely to get screwed over in the next pandemic. And Novavax has promising innovations for other vaccines as well, including flu. We still sometimes have shortages and delays even for our annual flu vaccine delivery so this can only help. An annual flu/Covid booster manufactured right here to meet our needs would be fantastic.

[–]ghvalj 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What was the situation with Sanofi? Wasn’t aware of that! I thought we tried to hedge our bets on CanSino :s

[–]Possible_Expert568 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Sanofi/GSK were working on their own vaccine candidate but it hasn’t panned out; they never got far enough in successful trials for production agreements but since we have vaccine facilities for both, we’d have been a good candidate country for production if they had succeeded. Sanofi basically gave up and will produce for Pfizer now; we won’t be part of that, though, as our facilities don’t do mRNA. (This is all part of why the EU vaccine flap is happening. EU bet big on Sanofi because of France, then were left scrambling for other vaccine contracts when Sanofi didn’t have success.)

[–]v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There isn't a silver bullet though. For all the criticism about the vaccine issue, I don't see many solutions. We can't control what Europe refuses to export. We can't go back in time and ramp up our vaccine manufacturing ability.

In the best case, our shipments of Pfizer and Moderna ramp up and this is needed only to get us to the finish line. Worst case, this is our only source of vaccine. But that worst case needs to be accounted for

[–]QuantumMemorandum 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Canada will start producing vaccines for other poorer countries most likely. Canada was praising it could vaccinate everyone in the country and have an abundance left over at the beginning to ship to other poorer countries that can't afford the vaccine. at the beginning.

[–]NotInsane_Yet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They need to be seen as doing something after the recent disaster that is the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine deliveries.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

There's a good chance we will need to be vaccinated every year. The vaccine is only effective for a few months, not forever.

[–]arghjo 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Source on it being effective for a few months?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

google.ca

[–]TheClashSuck 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The government is not planning to have everyone vaccinated within the next 2-3 months, which is when the plant would be operational. So no, this will manufacturing plant will help in the vaccination effort greatly, especially considering all the delays being released by Pfizer and Moderna.

[–]LuxferraeBritish Columbia -1 points0 points  (2 children)

lol. My question would be why didn't they just build this last year (at least the frame work for it). Instead of bitching about the conservatives shutting down the project in the past if it was only going to take months to build? If they did, we could've domestically produced vaccines... well... now?

[–]BetterLivingThru 6 points7 points  (1 child)

They did start building this last year, the news is what vaccine they'll make there. The facility is already under construction and has been for months.

[–]LuxferraeBritish Columbia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah. Good. At least they're doing something actively and proactively to fight against this pandemic

[–]mrgoodtime81 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Shocker, its in Quebec

[–]faizimamQuébec 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Its a lab that we've had for decades...

[–]FerretAresAlberta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"because Novavax first has to get its vaccine approved, the National Research Council has to finish building a new facility in Montreal where the doses will be made, and that facility has to be certified to make the vaccines."

Third paragraph of the article.

[–]faizimamQuébec 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The article is correct, but incomplete. It's actually a new wing at an existing vaccine research facility. Calling it a new facility is technically correct, but they put it there because its right next to one of Canada's top vaccine research labs.

https://nrc.canada.ca/en/covid-19-response-building-infrastructure

[–]ScoobyDoneBritish Columbia 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Funny how I knew that before I read the article.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is great! Good job Trudeau! :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some reason I find myself remembering when I was in the army and the garbage we were issued that was made in Quebec.

[–]CoolyRanks -1 points0 points  (0 children)

TRUDEAU DOES IT AGAIN.

[–]CaptainSurCanada -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I read this article as "Opposition wants more government transparency so it can find more items to nitpick and criticize irrespective of having no strategy of their own".

All I heard today was good news after good news. I find it amazing that everyone wants to criticize when in fact so much good work is being done. People seem to think you can build a vaccine manufacturing line in minutes, that all we need to do is open the doors and the manufacturers will of course step in, and that in general we are doomed.

The Novavax results to date, still be finalized appear to indicate a high degree of effectiveness of their vaccine for at least the original variant of Covid. It will need tweaking, as will they all.

The EU does not hate Canada, nor is it freezing exports to Canada. People are really miscategorizing the controls the EU is enacting. I do feel the govt should stay on top of matters, which it is quite obvious they are doing with even the PM speaking to the head of the EU. But Canada and exports to Canada are not the center or even in the periphery of the issues overseas. Moderna supply is unaffected by the dispute and I don't expect Pfizer to be caught up in it to any great extent either. And as I believe Johnston & Johnston will soon be approved once that happens it will really be a moot point since their production capability is enormous.

[–]Kartiknegi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again too late

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Big if true

[–]ArtisticStatement912 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Aren’t we all supposed to be vaccinated by September with Pfizer vaccine? There is no way this facility goes into distribution before 2021. So another canadian failure tis going to be.

[–]Warm-Boysenberry3880 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully we will keep vaccine production in Canada and the next Conservative Prime Minister won't close/sell it like Stephen did

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Well that’s good news but my only question is why Novavax? It’s still gonna be a while till it’s approved right?

[–]walker1867 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

It’s going to be a while before construction on the facility is finished. But reading through some info on it the storage temperature of 2 to 8 degrees would be a game changer for large scale distribution.

Pfizer is basically a no go for vaccinations outside of hospitals, and moderna is only slightly better. Johnson and Johnson isn’t effective enough for heard immunity.

[–]telmimore 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Moderna can be stored in a fridge for 30 days. It's not an issue at all.

[–]walker1867 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Transporting it to rural areas like Nunavut is

[–]forsberg2110 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We should have a government run vaccine research and development centre in Canada. If I have to pay crazy amount of taxes every year, I rather it go to something useful.

[–]Heliosvector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if this facility was the one that right wing idiots were postulating that was going to be a covid concentration camp.

[–]Hagenaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good news.
But the timelines are dampening my hopes of a Covid free Summer of '21.

[–]Receedus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What should of been done in thee first place!

[–]Electronic_Cut1474 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why did it take the current federal government a whole year to decide to invest in Canadian Biotechnology and produce our own vaccines? I’m sure the everyday person a the same thoughts and assumptions that we were already doing this. You would have thought it was a great opportunity for economic growth and would have been the first choice before sending our hard earned dollars overseas. Why are we surprised that now we get gouged and sent to back of the line by companies like Pfizer? Who cares that you secured millions of doses. BS, you secured shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Covid is whats gonna kill the anti-vaxxers like white American cops kill black people

[–]LivingLegendly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Canada is a failure. This deal should have happened months ago, or never needed to happen to begin with. Harper AND Trudeau should be tried by THE PEOPLE as traitors and dealt with accordingly. All the COVID death is on both of their bloody elitist hands. MAKE THE POLITICIANS PAY.

[–]randomnighmare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wasn't Novavax also part of the US's Warp Speed program or not?