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[–]marshroanoke 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I honestly can’t imagine why you would ever want to be friends with Kody

[–]SheShe73 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They have never practiced. I agree with Christine, Robyn has never practiced polygamy. They don't even belong to a church. I can say I'm Catholic all day long, it's not going to make it true.

[–]katencam 13 points14 points  (8 children)

I have to say that during the lunch with Christine and Kody, while I thought Christine was being respectful and an adult about the whole thing she knows Kody is all in his feels and is sad/fuming. Her repeatedly saying how she wants to be friends and when she said “oh, you’re still angry” and her pointing out that he had not moved on, etc. was like hammering the nail in the coffin

[–]SheShe73 35 points36 points  (7 children)

He deserves it. Why is he acting all butt hurt and trying to guilt her for leaving? This man told her he never loved her, never was attracted to her, basically said she grossed him out eating some damn nachos, told her flat out he was never going to intimate with her and had not been for several years, has SEVERLY neglected all of her kids, humiliated her on national tv, and now HE is angry for HER for not staying putting up with that shit??? I can see Christine's confusion as to why he has taken issue with her leaving. Of course she has moved on, anyone would be happy to be free from that man, and why the hell is HE playing the victim in all this? He is such a moron.

[–]katencam 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Ugh and when he told her their relationship depended on how she treated Robyn???

[–]PlasticFlute1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I never knew about that Nacho thing

[–]SheShe73 2 points3 points  (1 child)

IKR????

[–]katencam 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m so happy we’re back!

[–]kleighk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And it’s such a good example of his narcissism and need for control. He just wanted to be the one to decide the terms of their relationship when it was right for him.

[–]katencam 27 points28 points  (2 children)

“We aren’t outsiders, we refuse to be” funny because all you do is separate yourselves from everyone and then blame them

[–]xeren1234 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No you’re insiders Robyn. You’re inside the giant house.

[–]Calantha1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly this, OMG I just wanted to slap her stupid face when she said that

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Robyn playing the victim like her kids are the only innocent parties in this situation just kills me. And then she has the audacity to tell Meri that she needs to help carry the torch because Kody needs them. You could tell the look on Meri’s face was like “why would I do that for someone who doesn’t even spend time with me?!” Robyn is delusional.

[–]boardpunkchic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am pretty sure Jenelle is going to leave. I do NOT understand why Meri stays! What is she getting out of this relationship or this "family". Kody constantly says he doesn't love her, he doesn't even stay at her house....I think the only kids that are really still living with them are Robyn's......I just want to shake her! She deserves to be happy. I just don't understand it at all.

[–]KatarinaAleksandra 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I rolled my eyes when she was crying about her kids. Like- they have her and Kody there for Thanksgiving, I don't think they're going to have trauma because their mom's sister wives didn't show up for Thanksgiving.

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s like she forgets that the age gap between her kids and the other kids is so large. Obviously not Dayton, Aurora and Brianna but the younger ones are the same age or close to the same age as Kody’s grandchildren. There’s never going to be a time where they get every sibling and their husbands, wives, and kids etc in the same house for every holiday. Especially when some of them are in other states. I don’t think she considered any of that when she decided to have more kids. Kody and Robyn don’t spend any time visiting any of the other kids or grandkids out of state. He spends every holiday with Robyn and her family at her house and yet she still finds a way to complain and be the victim.

[–]Stephcnfld83 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Omg. When is Robyn not acting like a victim?

[–]NoFundieBusiness 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Kody, maybe all your other kids would “respect you as head of household” more if you were actually there as the head of their households like you were at Robyn’s house with her kids. Their moms were their head of household so they respect them and their authority over yours. Robyn’s kids had a dad present all the time to respect. The other kids did not.

[–]katencam 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ugh when he said I’m so happy I have love and devotion from some of my family…shouldn’t you be devoted to your kids Zkody

[–]bbbojackhorseman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well put

[–]NoFundieBusiness 39 points40 points  (2 children)

I wanna know if Gwen was in that chat because she might actually spill the screenshots 😂 her or Paedon. I’m hoping one of them leaks them anonymously lol I’d pay good money to read all that.

[–]Asmortica 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Christine did mention Gwen was in the chat.

[–]cmason00 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Watching auroras social skills in this episode makes me suspect she’s on the spectrum. Which is probably how Robyn & kody keep her so sequestered in their home/life.

[–]Living-Elderberry-77 6 points7 points  (1 child)

No just not mature for her age. She will be a sister wife, I just hope it’s not kodys next wife. He was creeping all over her like she was a child or his girlfriend

[–]boardpunkchic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

UGH I can see it now

[–]NanaAbuela 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I worked with young adults and children the spectrum for 15 years and she just appears to be stunted in her growth. But that is with the very little I have seen. I think she behaves the way she is expected to in that household and Robyn expects her children to behave younger than they are and depend on her and Kody. Look at 5 year old Ari with a pacifier.

[–]boardpunkchic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they raised her to be very sheltered. I know the poor girl suffers from anxiety which I also have and I understand that can be debilitating. I just hope that they get her therapy and help. Brianna seems to be doing pretty well though I think?

[–]walkupsm 47 points48 points  (6 children)

Did anyone else notice that Christine paid the bill for Kody at the restuarant?

[–]boardpunkchic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMFAO

[–]bbbojackhorseman 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Didnt production pay?

[–]walkupsm 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I'm pretty sure Christine paid, she was filling out the check receipt as Kody got up to leave.

[–]bbbojackhorseman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

TLC is cheap as hell lmao. (Kody too)

[–]carolinemobzo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yup!!!! Lol oddly I was curious how they'd pay and was pleased that they showed it 🤣

[–]cockroach-prodigy 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Kody's whole demeanor during lunch with Christine reminded me of every narcissistic man I've ever met. It's pretty clear to me that he's completely heartbroken and it drives him crazy that he has no control over anything she does anymore. Plus, Christine has never looked better which definitely adds insult to injury for him. She's glowingggg!

Also, it's obvious to me that Kodys anger issues are rubbing off on Robyn. I'm in the middle of a rewatch and her new demeanor is jarring compared to how she used to be. She has literally no right to talk about the issues between him and Christine and she sounds like a dumbass when she does because she has no idea what she's talking about. It's really Kody and Robyn against the world at this point.

[–]Lolli20201 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Why is no one mentioning that kody apparently asked Christine not to go to “grandmas” funeral (not sure which grandma this is as Christine’s mom is alive.. assuming it’s meri or janelles mother)

[–]NoFundieBusiness 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I figured it was Kody’s mom, because that’s the only funeral I could see him having any say over, and even that would be really shitty of him, but I’ve not heard that his mom has died so I assume it has to be Meri’s mom because she died recently in the middle of the separation and Covid stuff.

[–]amopdx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Janelle's mom (aka Kody's step-mom) passed during Covid. Kody and Janelle went to the funeral. I think Kody went to Meri's Mom's funeral as well, but I can't remember.

[–]keenerperkins 78 points79 points  (5 children)

Am I the only one a little annoyed at the lack of details that were revealed regarding the Brown children gift exchange? There were so many things completely glossed over and I wish TLC had been able to just put the messages on screen as they discussed the back and forth.

Ultimately, per usual, it seems like Robyn had to have control over the situation and when her demands couldn't be met she fell back onto the victim role for her and her kids. That all said, I really want to know exactly what was said. It felt like they all were tip-toeing around details.

[–]boardpunkchic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Does anyone else find it fascinating that as the children grow up they seem to not want anything to do with the show? The kids (not Robyn's) rarely film and it's usually just when they are at their own homes with their respective mothers. What was the oldest kids name? Once he went to college he completely separated himself from the family and filming. I really want to know what happened with that. Nobody even talks about him. Logan! That's who it was

[–]NaomiNorah 9 points10 points  (0 children)

TLC had to save 60% of the time for gropy and his obedient muse getting her ears pierced while Robyn stalked them on the video chat. Some sick shit going on with them, that’s one of the reason they never let anyone into the McMansion.

And WTF is up with TLC showing clips of the thanksgiving from the year before? With everyone sitting in the same places, wearing the same clothes. Just admit Robyn’s clutter can’t even be hidden in another part of the house for filming the current Thanksgiving at this point.

[–]Vardagar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes probably cause alot of the kids dont want to be in the show. So even mentioning them might be sensitive especially if it is involving a conflict 😕

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol yes. I need the tea.

[–]Original_Ad9019 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I couldn’t agree more. It made zero sense.

[–]kerdita 57 points58 points  (2 children)

Just wanted to comment on how gorgeous Janelle looks in this episode. Breakups look radiant on her! I love the hoops, the blonder hair, her makeup, and seeing her speak up for herself and her kids.

[–]boardpunkchic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love Janelle she has always been so independent and smart. She does not need a man! She's awesome. I love Christine too. She definitely glowed after leaving Kody! I just wish I knew why Meri stays? What can she possibly be getting out of this so called family? Kody treats her like dirt.

[–]cockroach-prodigy 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Christine too, she's never looked better

[–]Ellgey2 80 points81 points  (6 children)

And the poor ADULT girl was beyond excited to get ears pierced. Kody goes for that, but Ysobels surgery?? Nah! Talk about warped priorities. Wonder what Ysobel thought of it.

[–]kerdita 32 points33 points  (4 children)

It was probably her first time to leave the house in weeks.

[–]abbysgultz 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Hopefully she got a covid test on her way home after the piercing.

[–]boardpunkchic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMFAO

[–]WhatAboutRamon 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Lol! I was wondering if they called ahead and asked the piercing technician to take a covid test.

[–]Vast_Ad6506 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, no that crap was only used as an excuse so he wouldn't have to go visit the rest of his poor family.The rules don't apply to any other situations!!🙄

[–]Ellgey2 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Whiney Robyn. Angry Kody. Just wish they would stop taking up so much of each episode on replays of old scenes I could probably recite by heart.

[–]Lilsooky 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I kind of get the impression Robyn’s og kids grew up in monogamy maybe grew attached to Kody? all of a sudden they had to see him as there new *father- up until then they didn’t have to share their father? Or compete for their dads attention and compete for his favouritism over other kids. For a child who came from a monogamous home- they’re not used to sharing these things. So I don’t think the manipulating over Kody to distance himself from the other kids was entirely Robyn. I think quite a bit of Kodys animosity towards certain family kids could be because of their taught victim mentality and some light manipulation to become favourite children

Imagine seeing your mum who is new to polygamy, start it and start obsessing and bending over backwards to become favourite wife If you are a highly impressionable and highly anxious child used to a monogamous dad to focus on you are you maybe going to try to become favourite children?

[–]Ok-Apricot-749 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Wtf was the decal on the back of the car aurora was in??? DUTY and.... thats rich kody step up to your duty as a father

[–]EnchantedTikiRum 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It was driving me nuts the whole time. I read Dirty.

[–]drunkenWINO 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It says "Dirty hands clean money" most likely. That was his late brothers truck and that saying is really popular in the oil field and his brother worked in the oilfield. Also popular blue collar saying. And I think the middle of the windshield is a memorial date for his brother.

Also, ironic seeing as he always wears gloves.

[–]kg51113 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's what I read also.

[–]TheMudbloodSlytherin 42 points43 points  (1 child)

I’m not watching until tonight but of course I’m checking out the comments and I am flabbergasted they did an entire segment on a 20 year old getting her ears pierced. I knew someone was and I just assumed it was Ari.

[–]kg51113 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This season was filmed in 2021. The ear piercing footage also feels like it was filmed earlier and shoved into the episode. She was probably 19 since she's 21 now.

[–]Lynnae07 89 points90 points  (8 children)

Him getting giddy going with Aurora to get her ear pierced on this daddy daughter day makes me sad for everyone else. No only could he not even remember if his other daughter got their ear pierced but I’ve never seen him giddy over anything with any of the other kids. 🤮

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Couldn’t even make it to his daughter’s spinal surgery but cared about going with a grown adult to get her ears pierced. I get abused vibes from that girl. Her mannerisms remind me of one of those kids that is locked up in a basement for years.

[–]Living-Elderberry-77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s what I thought! He’s grooming her

[–]Lynnae07 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well he can spin this around to be about himself. When your daughter is having spinal surgery that’s about you daughter.

[–]bb0kai 14 points15 points  (0 children)

And he couldn’t even remember how or when is other daughters got their ears pierced…

[–]tess_erzsebet 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Ugh I know! And him going on about how Aurora respects him so much 🙄

[–]Vast_Ad6506 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah that was disturbing and gross!!😳

[–]Separate_Farm7131 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Same. I don't imagine it makes them feel very good seeing that.

[–]Lynnae07 131 points132 points  (2 children)

“I don’t think Robyn has ever lived plural marriage” is probably the biggest truth. Robyn doesn’t understand the deal breakers for Christine because Robyn never had to live life like Christine. Robyn never had to sacrifice anything for the big family. She never had to give up finances, she never gave up her personal time. She never sacrificed her time with Kody because someone else in the family need it more at that time. She doesn’t know how hard it was for Christine because she has never lived Christines life.

[–]Vast_Ad6506 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah life is really easy when your the favorite! That is the only reason she's upset the family broke up because she can't shove it in the other wives faces anymore!! That makes narcissistic Robin real mad!!😠☺

[–]ionlyjoined4thecats 4 points5 points  (0 children)

100%. Because Kody is a trash husband and created this whole mess with his obvious favoritism.

[–]Berryme01 68 points69 points  (4 children)

This may have been one of the most disturbing episodes! Robyn and Kody do not see a single issue that they have responsibility in- I want to punch the tv! And an adult child getting her ears pierced- Kody is even more bizarre. Ewwwww

[–]SheShe73 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They were literally falsely accusing the others of doing the things they have been doing since Kody met Robyn.

[–]blowacasket 36 points37 points  (2 children)

This is the first time that I am seriously questioning why I am watching. There was no real new information and the huge deal they made of a 19 or 20, I forget, getting her ears pierced was so weird. And Kody's over the top involvement was actually uncomfortable to watch.

[–]NaomiNorah 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think the whole piercing episode was Robyn’s attempt at creating content that 1. Focused on her family 2. Was filmed entirely outside the McMansion and 3. Allowed her to wear her ugly ass my sister wives closet jewelry and talk about her earrings.

The whole segment was a fail. It just showcased how creepy and cringy, if not out sick Robyn’s family is.

[–]Berryme01 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree- so uncomfortable !! I do love the giddiness Christine has talking about not being his wife anymore, haha!!

[–]GroovyYaYa 6 points7 points  (3 children)

OK... Christine you don't realize that Robyn's three oldest might feel that they weren't welcomed initially?

MY GOD, PAEDON HIT THEM. You laughed and said that he must think of them as family because that is what he's done with his sisters.

I do think that Robyn's kids are influenced strongly by Robyn to continue to feel that way - but COME ON. Your own daughter won't be in the room with her brother because of his past behaviors. At least acknowledge that they might be hurt or wary.

[–]OpheliaYvonne 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Brothers do hit sisters all the time, my brother and I used to go back and forth with who started it and one of us would always escalate and piss the other off. I do think that some parents could see that behavior just as normal sibling behavior. I think the whole family has failed all of their children in more than one way, but I think that it’s not shocking that Christine didn’t know how Robyn’s oldest felt because Robyn kept them from having a close relationship with Christine. I mean Christine was genuinely hurt that Robyn didn’t lean on her to watch the kids, she wanted to have the same connection with them as the other kids. And so I think that by her saying “there’s a lot of hurt for a long time” and that it runs deeper than she knew is her acknowledgment to Robyn’s kids that she knows how they feel and she doesn’t like it. I truly think she didn’t know about their feelings specifically until Mykelti told her about it.

[–]kleighk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Robyn should have been an adult and talked to Christine about it. In Garrison’s words- cuz they’re a family! Families communicate.

[–]GroovyYaYa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They do, but the size difference is significant between the two and while my cousins fought like cats and dogs - my aunt wasn't afraid to leave them with another adult because it was so bad.

My cousins also talk to each other. They can be in the same room. I will be in the room with them even though I was sometimes a punching bag myself. I love them.

Gwen will not be around him, period. I think everyone has acknowledged that it was bad enough for her to feel that way and not pressure her to make up with him.

[–]NaomiNorah 34 points35 points  (0 children)

If the next episode is more of Robyn whining and fake crying, I m out. Wake me for when it’s sister lives and that evil beech is gone.

[–]drizztluvr 194 points195 points  (8 children)

Hold up. Robyn saying "well, I didn't see anything between Christine and Kody that was a deal breaker"

So refusing to go to Ysabels back surgery, not a deal breaker? Refusing to have an "intimate marriage" with Christine, not a deal breaker? Saying to Christine's face, I never loved you. I married you out of duty, not a deal breaker?

Seriously, f her and her high horse. I know she's not the brightest bulb in the store, but damn she has her head jammed up her own butt (or maybe Kody's).

[–]No-Shape7764 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The dill breaker.
She should start selling pickles.

[–]If_I_have_to_I_guess 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean she didn't see anything wrong with telling Meri to hold on and help her rebuild.... even tho she knew Kody had no interest in ever taking Meri back. Robyn only really sees people if they impact on her.

[–]Intelligent_Retiree 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ding ding ding, spot on!!!

[–]faerie_tail 67 points68 points  (2 children)

Also, Robyn doesn’t need to see anything between them, it has nothing to do with her. What a strange thing to say.

[–]keenerperkins 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This. She constantly acts like the authority on Christine's relationship with Kody and it boggles my mind.

[–]auntieneena 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Exactly!!! Sorry Sobbin but its not about you and you don't have to understand.

[–]UdonSoop 50 points51 points  (3 children)

OMG CryBrows with the dry tears. I really need the camera guy to zoom in when she does that crap.

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Lol her brows are like living creatures. The way they move I just can’t look away.

[–]Vast_Ad6506 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha omg, that's all i see when i look at her!!! For gosh sakes at least go a little lighter on the pencil! Her makeup artist truly hates her!😹

[–]Intelligent_Retiree 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Crybrows 🤣👏🤣👏🏆

[–]Then_Campaign7264 56 points57 points  (2 children)

Robyn’s attribution of years of pent-up frustration expressed by the kids about issues surrounding Kody favoring and prioritizing Robyn over everyone else to an example of how the kids made her feel like an outsider was infuriating to watch. Robyn was the one who kept her kids apart, who kept herself apart. Whatever was said, I suspect Robyn and her kids twisted in a way far worse or completely off base than was intended and imputed misconstrued comments made by a few people to everyone.

Where’s the Robyn who constantly wants to talk about everything. Playing the victim of course. Quite frankly she deserves to be roasted by these kids.

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. Even Kody said he’s not taking sides in the situation with the kids. If it was really that bad from one side or the other he would choose sides. He has favorites.

[–]__Quill__ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I suspect Robyn and her kids twisted in a way far worse or completely off base than was intended and imputed misconstrued comments made by a few people to everyone.

Like at the knife in the kidneys meeting where Christine was like "As for the adults right now I need some space." and suddenly it was "She doesn't want a relationship with my kids."

[–]UdonSoop 43 points44 points  (12 children)

How does CryBrows manage to make her hair square.

[–]Ellgey2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She is a Minecraft creation! lol

[–]NaomiNorah 6 points7 points  (10 children)

And her neck even has squared fat padding

[–]hippiechick12345 14 points15 points  (9 children)

That's due to untreated thyroid disease in the form of a goiter. Unfortunately, I don't remember which one, but a YouTuber mentioned that Mykelti said Robyn knows she has hypothyroidism, but doesn't like taking medication, so she only takes it for a little while then stops. I get that, but it's a tiny, fairly inexpensive pill even without insurance. But her life, her choice.

As someone who lives with hypothyroidism, I can attest to how bad it can get if not treated. When I was 1st diagnosed, I spent 10 days in the hospital and came home on oxygen (which I was fortunate enough to only need for a few weeks). I didn't like going to doctors, I was fairly young and was going through a divorce, so I just thought I was stressed and unhappy. Thankfully the majority of people who have it don't find out in such an extreme way. While I don't like Robyn, I still would not wish that on her or anyone.

[–]SpaceQueenJupiter 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I don't understand how you wouldn't take your thyroid meds. I recently found out I probably have hypothyroidism. I can't wait to get in to see an endocrinologist and hopefully get some meds. No wonder I'm tired all the time and can't lose weight.

If Robyn has such bad thyroid levels she must feel miserable.

[–]hippiechick12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good luck to you! It took a little while to find the right dose, etc but you will hopefully start feeling better soon! I have a great endocrinologist who stays on top of things and keeps me healthy.

[–]DisastrousHyena3534 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Holy shit that’s so dangerous and stupid. You need a functioning thyroid to live. (Not you hippiechick, but that Robbin’ would not take her thyroid meds)

[–]hippiechick12345 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Agreed! I always thought she hadn't been to a doctor/diagnosed, but when I heard that, I was shocked.

[–]DisastrousHyena3534 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Yes I figured she was in that subclinical range that can be tough to get treatment for sometimes. My jaw dropped when I read your comment.

[–]hippiechick12345 2 points3 points  (2 children)

She either doesn't realize your thyroid will shut you down, doesn't care or thinks it won't happen to her.

[–]DisastrousHyena3534 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Heavenly Father will find us a rennal

[–]hippiechick12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG I snorted..that was fantastic!

[–]Ellgey2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Have no thyroid, due to cancer surgery. I would be in real trouble without my thyroid meds. Even with a thyroid, if its not working right, your whole body out of whack.

[–]gandalfthepink08 109 points110 points  (11 children)

Aurora is so stunted. It was like watching a 13 year old girl not a 20 year old (19 at time of filming?) and the way kody touches her … I’m feeling gross

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s definitely cringey

[–]amopdx 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My 13 year old wouldn't have acted that giddy or whatever Aurora was doing... idk what to call it. Kody also made me very uncomfortable during that segment, so hard to watch. It was so effing weird.

[–]NaomiNorah 38 points39 points  (3 children)

And she’s the only thing that makes Kody happy. Mmmm. Poor mini square head.

[–]amopdx 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Remember last season when he cried (or almost cried) talking about Aurora having to isolate from the fam when they had Covid.. ugh

[–]Neat_Royal7069 75 points76 points  (21 children)

Robyn thinking the adult kids should drop everything for a video chat is insane. I know she doesn’t work, but the adult kids can’t cowtaw to her needs and drop everything ASAP for her. She is something else….. ( I’m really trying to be nice)

[–]auntieneena 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Why the hell was Robyn involved in a kids group chat regarding a KIDS gift exchange! How messed up is that!!??

[–]GroovyYaYa 22 points23 points  (12 children)

Also, that is really rough on those who are choosing to distance themselves from certain others - Gwen and I suspect Leon do not want anything to do with Paedon. A group chat is easy to just not respond when he texts something.... but to get on Zoom to have him deadname you or stir shit up?

I know I'm biased a bit - I could hardly stand seeing him on my screen.

[–]faerie_tail 5 points6 points  (11 children)

What happened with paedon? I’m out of the loop.

[–]GroovyYaYa 36 points37 points  (10 children)

Paedon physically went after Gwen to the point that Christine couldn't leave Gwen and Paedon in the home without her and under the supervision of their grandmother. This is on the show! Paedon was also the one who bullied Robyn's kids, and was one of them that Meri yelled at on camera. To this day, Gwen won't talk with or be with Paedon. To me that is a profound message.

Christine was dismissive of this. She was incredibly mad at Meri for stopping rhe bullying, when it had gotten physical. She worried more about Paedon's feelings and actually laughed thinking that he must think of Robyn's kids as siblings because he was treating them as shitty as he treated his sisters. As a former mandatory reporter this is why I have more issues with Christine than I do Meri or Janelle.

As far as now, Paedonn is dismissive of Gwen's feelings and the fact she is bi and with a woman. He deadnames Leon and has said that Meri's infertility and that her only child is trans is a punishment from God.

He is a toxic, incel, red pulled asshole that makes me want to vomit when his puffy countenance is on my screen.

[–]faerie_tail 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Damn that’s awful. Thanks for filling me in.

[–]keenerperkins 18 points19 points  (4 children)

It was so wild that Meri got absolutely dragged by Christine and Janelle for calling Paedon out and setting boundaries. Had that type of parenting been normal in Paedon's life maybe he wouldn't be quite the dirtbag he is. Like, I know we're all team Christine and Janelle in this but they've had their fair share of errors as well, this being one of them.

[–]GroovyYaYa 9 points10 points  (3 children)

It is why I can't completely be Team Christine and I question the circumstances that they call "abusive" with Meri, not having ANY details. It would not be the first time that a kid saw a parent's discipline as "abusive" or "mean" when the other parent is the weekend parent or the "fun" parent who passes discipline off on the other parent. Those kids had that times 2 at least.

Also, I used to be a mandatory reporter. If I heard that a family couldn't leave 2 of their children with another capable adult (Christine's mom) because they were afraid the smaller child would be physically harmed - that alone would raise red flags to me. Perhaps not to the level of calling CPS, but I would be on alert and I would make others I worked with aware as well. There would be questions.

[–]keenerperkins 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I'm Team Christine and Janelle overall, but they definitely have made questionable decisions and enabled some poor behavior by their children. To be fair, I think they all have (no parent is perfect, obviously).

I totally understand there are issues you let the parents deal with, but when it comes to violence I don't take issue with an adult or adult sibling tackling. Which, seems to be a no no for the Browns. I recall Solomon hitting someone and Hunter or Garrison telling him to stop and it causing drama. It's just wild to me that their belief is you let kids be violent unless the birth mother happens to catch it or feel like saying something, particularly in a plural family.

[–]Inevitable-Dust-8567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what happens when you have too many kids to actually raise them all properly.

[–]GroovyYaYa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I remember that - it is wild. Stopping a kid from hitting shouldn't be dependent on one adult who happened to birth that kid.

I don't have kids - but I'm a damn good Auntie. Kids hit stages where they are testing boundaries or needing to gain some independence from Mom and Dad - and sometimes a simple word from another adult other than them has more impact than a thousand from Mom & Dad. I've put out the guilt thing as an auntie "Oh, ______. That wasn't nice at all. I'm so disappointed. I thought better of you." type of statements. Kiddos usually stopped what they were doing and started to behave.

[–]Badraptor777 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I wonder why Kody was not involved in stopping the bullying? Especially once Robyn’s kids were involved, you know HIS kids. Why didn’t he and Christine team up to stop Paedon? Christine mentioned she doesn’t know how to parent boys. Maybe Paedon was hoping Kody would get involved, he always looked for a scrap of attention from his dad. Physical abuse needs to be addressed, Kody failed the abused kids and Paedon.

[–]kleighk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe because Paedon is a male. He SHOULD be demanding respect in any way he chooses. /s

[–]GroovyYaYa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Didn't he say that if Meri hadn't handled it, he would have?

[–]Badraptor777 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That was Meri, correcting him in the moment. That is not enough if bullying/hitting siblings is already an issue. It’s not like that situation is a one of. He really needed to lay down the law for his son, and help him. Paedon knew aggression was a way to solve problems (modeling Kody perhaps), and that physicality was expected from a man (Kody always talking about his glory days as a wrestler). I really think Paedon was trying to be the man his father expected him to be. Paedon didn’t get along with Meri, so why would he listen to her. For being such the alpha man Kody is very conflict adverse. He has been since season 1.

[–]AriesMixie 33 points34 points  (6 children)

Because she's controlling and always has to be in control of the family interactions. No one plans anything without her approval. Kodys the same way. That's why the neutral house for Christmas pissed him off so badly..he has to be able to set rules.

[–]keenerperkins 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The mask started to slip for Robyn. Like, I know we all know how manipulative she is and how it has to be her way, but rarely is it shown as transparently. Her involvement in that group chat just validated everything Janelle, Christine, and their kids have been complaining about regarding the parameters' Robyn sets for them all to see her family and Kody.

[–]auntieneena 19 points20 points  (1 child)

That whole Xmas issue could have been solved by everyone going to the rental. Neutral territory where everyone would be equal. That wasn't even an option. Kody wanted them all to come to HIS domain.

[–]Neat_Royal7069 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Totally agree. Had they had Christmas at Kody’s, Kody would say “you’re I my house.., do as I say…”.

[–]GroovyYaYa 15 points16 points  (2 children)

That's why the neutral house for Christmas pissed him off so badly..he has to be able to set rules.

Oh... and probably why Meri doesn't get to host any more. That flashback of all the tables was her house, I think.

[–]Lynnae07 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I think it might of been Christine’s, but I could be getting it mixed up.

[–]GroovyYaYa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh it might have been. I think it was culdesac, but I don't remember what her rental in Vegas looked like.

[–]Hi_my_name_is_G 28 points29 points  (0 children)

7 minutes in... I know I am not the only one, who with much disdain says (I do it out loud nothing to hide here 😂), "F!#/ OFF" and the like as soon as Robyn starts with her 💩. "Mental sunshine?!" That had me internally screaming. MENTAL is right. Send help. 🧍🏻‍♀️👣🕳

[–]gandalfthepink08 149 points150 points  (10 children)

FUCK YOU KODY “I have no idea when my other girls got their ears pierced BUT IM SO EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH AURORA 🤡 “

Absolute clown. I despise this man

[–]yagirlsamess 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I bet Tru would like to make a fun little memory of getting her ears pierced with him...

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It makes me angry that he has his own daddy issues but is too self centred to see he is causing pain to his other children in the way he dismisses their existence as a mere afterthought.

[–]auntieneena 35 points36 points  (3 children)

I can't believe he is proud of this little moment. He couldn't be bothered to provide support to Ysabel and Christine during a very painful, scary back surgery, but wants a pat on the back for holding a 20 yr olds hand for and ear piercing. Then plays the victim because every one hates on him. Does he even realize that he's is on TV

[–]SheShe73 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Also what 20 year old woman asks for daddy's permission to get her ears pierced???? I dont believe it is religion because they dont practice anymore. Its like Kody has his own little cult in that house.

[–]ionlyjoined4thecats 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Robyn and her kids still practice.

[–]Paivcarol 80 points81 points  (3 children)

Can you imagine how all his other daughters are gonna feel?

Also, he can’t be there for Ysabels surgery, but is there for Awowa ears piercing?

[–]jojonyg10 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If ysabel says anything about it kody will paint her as a better woman. Something he asked her not to be or hold against him years from that moment. Because even then he knew he was being a shitty dad and there was no coming back from it

[–]Ziegenkoennenfliegen 49 points50 points  (1 child)

You don’t get it. Getting their ears pierced is a medical procedure that needs support. Spinal surgery is a vacation.

[–]kleighk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yaaaassss

[–]Walkingthegarden 80 points81 points  (8 children)

I loved how we watched Christine push in her chair at the restaurant in clear view of the fact that Kody did not.

[–]Tport17 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes! I’m glad someone noticed this besides me. So telling of the kind of people they are.

[–]FlippyFloppy8 42 points43 points  (2 children)

i noticed that too! Its just those little things that show the people that have class and think about other people. Its just polite to tuck your chair back in.

[–]Walkingthegarden 28 points29 points  (1 child)

My mother would materialize out of nowhere if I failed to push my chair in. Its just good manners! My mom always told me I could be anything in life... except rude and a murderer who murders for fun.

[–]clndley1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

🤣

[–]Princess_taste 58 points59 points  (3 children)

I enjoyed them showing her paying the bill more lol he's such a sack

[–]Seesthroughnonsense 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I cannot believe he’s such a child that he let her pay the bill. His level of immaturity is insane. Like grow up, she moved on.

[–]kleighk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And HE had moved on before she said she wanted a divorce. It’s all about Kody’s terms.

[–]Princess_taste 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah he walked out and she was still sitting and then the camera was back in the restaurant and she was clearly paying the bill...I felt like it was a little power move on her part, like yeah let them see I'm paying the bill because he's useless lol

[–]Brandella 35 points36 points  (4 children)

Omg this turkey Maddie is making looks so sad. A smear of butter and a table spoon of olive oil for a whole ass turkey with some salt and pepper. Girl season that thing! I swear they all talk about the good cooking in the family and ain’t seen it since I’ve been watching this show.

Edit: fixed from Aspen to Maddie

[–]Princess_taste 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I thought the same, but I brine mine, so maybe she brines too? Altho I add seasoning after brining lol

[–]Punkasaurus2 16 points17 points  (2 children)

That’s Maddie

[–]Brandella 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thanks, fixed

[–]Punkasaurus2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

👍🙂

[–]MsCassidy107 38 points39 points  (0 children)

So Sobyn wants the three current wives to carry Kotex' torches for him. The torch of Anger. The torch of Disrespect. The torch of Complaining. Torch of Woe-is-me. The torch of Caring for his Real Family. The torch of the Victim.

What other torches is he carrying? According to Sobyn he's barely keeping his head above water.

[–]lissie_ar 62 points63 points  (6 children)

How does a video call with 30 people work? Anything more than 5 is a hot mess unless it’s set up like a meeting where one person is in charge aka Robyn

[–]Stamps1723 14 points15 points  (0 children)

across multiple timezones no less

[–]ExtravertWallflower 14 points15 points  (0 children)

During COVID we struggled to schedule 6 households getting on a Zoom. I couldn’t imagine 20 plus households, including kids in school and working.

[–]Asmortica 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Draw the names over text. She can have the tenders video chat people anytime!

[–]Vardagar 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yea she didnt want to get gifts (for her kids to give) so she had to come up with a quick way to break the whole idea. Kody was lurking in a corner not "taking sides" what a patriarch in action 😂

[–]kleighk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kody wants to be an authoritarian, not a leader.

[–]Blueeyedbaby40 92 points93 points  (14 children)

Anyone else feel like there is way too much Robyn this season? It’s like she realized her and Kody need more airtime since they aren’t getting the other 3 paychecks. No one cares about Aurora’s stupid ear piercing.

[–]Jules0705 6 points7 points  (2 children)

But, but, but.... It made Kody so HAPPY!!! We need to see him SMILE. It's such a contrast to how he treats/speaks to/speaks of anyone else in his family, including every single other one of his children, including the minors.

Remember- it was only Aurora that he was crying over not being able to see when he/they had COVID. SMH.

[–]yagirlsamess 8 points9 points  (0 children)

His smile scares the shit out of me 😂

[–]kleighk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My thoughts exactly

[–]NebulaTits 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Yes!! But like…. They won’t let anyone film in their house so they have no content ever