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[–]Saucious 87 points88 points  (32 children)

Can I transfer my bitcoin off my cashapp to a wallet?!

[–]ShawnShipsCars 70 points71 points  (14 children)

Yes. You can send & receive bitcoin with cashapp. Probably the simplest way for a n00b to get involved. Cashapp is legit & low fee

[–]Eterna11yYours 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I was looking for this to settle my nerves

[–]JerkyMyTurkey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is why I also bought sq stock

[–]papasmruf[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I love cash app and use it daily. But not for bit coin, its fees are several times more than coinbase pro or similar platform. If you spend 1 hour learning coinbase pro, you will save a lot of money on fees. All you need is going through couple of YouTube videos to understand how to buy crypto. If you know how to Reddit then you can easily learn how to buy on apps like Coinbase Pro.

[–]salamisunrise 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes

[–]mikasaur21 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s what I need to know too

[–]deadnugent 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yes

[–]Saucious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nioce!

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I switched to cashapp around the 1st of the year, it’s been 10/10 so far. I buy from there and send to wallet. Also do weekly buys

[–]su5577 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Look more into n atomic wallet or ledger key.

[–]TheGoudeAbides 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes. And you SHOULD!!! If you don’t have the keys, you don’t actually own your coins.

[–]james2020chris 745 points746 points  (122 children)

You cannot buy cryptocurrency on robinhood, you can only invest in it. They are false advertising using the word "buy".

[–]Zombie4141 203 points204 points  (21 children)

But on their AMA they said you do own your own bitcoin. Who am I supposed to believe?

A company that has a history of halting trading that impacts their owners bottom line and blatantly lies to their customers?

Or the truth?🤷‍♂️

[–]AxeCapital_ 76 points77 points  (11 children)

Lol. They deleted their AMA.... because they're ...

[–]TelevisionNo1559 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Hahaha did they really? That's amazing.

[–]myonlyson 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Yep and they deleted HUNDREDS of comments from redditors. Perks of doing an AMA on your own subreddit 🙄 biggest crooks out there

[–]Harminarnar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They even paid for ads for the AMA. They were still aired when the AMA was taken down.

[–]aime344 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Snakes?🐍

[–]SeniorMuchachito 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOL I loved that. So great. Made my day.

[–]Fun_Length3024 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you don't own they keys, then it isn't your Bitcoin or cryptocurrency.

[–]ubsr1024 234 points235 points  (6 children)

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    [–]NeverBenCurious 45 points46 points  (0 children)

    SEC is a civil regulatory agency. We should have called the FBI and made our case to them.

    The FBI are the ones who investigated and eventually raided Jordan Belfort in Wolf's of Wall Street.

    Even in that movie they joke about the SEC having no real power to do anything

    [–]vegetable_lasagne 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    SEC Enforcement is a stern but gentle heart to heart, followed by a big bowl of strawberry ice cream with sprinkles and a trillion dollar bailout.

    [–]Flynn_Kevin 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    SEC_Enforcment has gone all in on shitcoins.

    [–]kaihatsusha 50 points51 points  (63 children)

    Some might say it's like buying a DVD of a movie. "Own it on DVD!" You don't really own the actual movie, just a license, and you can't even say you own the right to play the movie in any venue you want.

    But it gets worse than that. It's more like owning a movie on a streaming service. They say it's convertible back to cash, which sounds better. But if that service goes down or insolvent, your asset disappears.

    [–]Hodlonfordearlif3 8 points9 points  (59 children)

    How likely is this to happen? Should I sell everything??

    [–]Mediumcomputer 21 points22 points  (15 children)

    I once loved a site called Lala.com. I could buy songs for $0.10 for infinite streams and pay the remaining $0.89 if I wanted to download them but I was a poor college kid so I racked up hundreds of 10 cent buys to have a great library.

    They were becoming a threat to apple so they were bought for $100 million and promptly shut down. I was given three months to pay the remaining $0.89 on every song I bought to download them or lose it all.

    I lost it all

    [–]BJASFV 2 points3 points  (8 children)

    You should have consulted an attorney. When apple bought Lala, they also acquired the rights and liabilities that Lala owned. They had to honor all contracts with their benefits, duties and obligations in existence at the time of Lala's acquisition. You were robbed by unfair business practices. That's why Epic is suing Apple. They go to trial shortly. Sorry for your loss. If the Statute of limitations has not run out where you live, you may be able to get your music back. Good luck.

    [–]Wishy_washy_Though 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    This would have been a better analogy if Lala.com would have instead gave you the option to sell your $0.10 song access back to them, because that would be an option with RH.

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      [–]Jstsqzd 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Not THAT likely, be careful of the tax implications of selling if you've hedl for less than a year

      [–]Lando_reeves 2 points3 points  (13 children)

      What's an actual exchange company I can use?

      [–]amretardmonke 17 points18 points  (5 children)

      Coinbase Pro, Binance, Gemini, a host of others.

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        [–]vegetabluessg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        You cna keep your private keys tl yourself.

        [–]bnova21 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        There are plenty of exchanges but they don’t all sell the coin you are looking for. Go to CoinMarketCap.com first - search for the coin you want to buy and then click the markets tab to see all the exchanges that sell that coin - You should pick an exchange that has the highest volume of that coin. You’ll have to sign up for an account on that exchange and you should set up 2FA before you begin trading . If it’s a US exchange you’ll need to provide ID.

        [–]swbr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I just commented with some criteria to consider when choosing an exchange. What country you live in matters, too.

        [–]ZICRON_ULTRA 10 points11 points  (8 children)

        Yes, I just moved over 100K off robinhood after their fascist tactics with GME trading and created a capital gains taxable event on over 90K in gains. But I could no longer support their platform and I was not hopeful that they would any time soon allow me to move real btc off their platform, so I bit the bullet and moved to kraken.

        [–]RiverRatDoc 20 points21 points  (1 child)

        I’ll be honest…. Sometimes I get jealous(?), envious(?) when I read r/ users talking about (what to me would be life changing) amounts of money. I’m just a retired mil dude , mid 50’s, & for the first time in my life I’ve got 4K (yeah you read that right) in my #Wallet . It’s because of life. I’ve been buying/HODLing & then an emergency happens & I pull it to pay bills.

        But on the other hand, it’s refreshing to read how normal ppl like me are now able to make $$ , where previously only Ivy Leaguers were ones with a “Portfolio”.

        So keep posting these stories. It gives me hope, & slowly I’m learning new tips every day to make my little small nest grow

        [–]motiv610 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Heck yeah, thanks for your service sir. Hodl on!

        [–]Hodlonfordearlif3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Wow, 90k in gains out of 100k?! Nicely done buddy 👍🏼

        [–]Dotifo 9 points10 points  (6 children)

        Yes but be aware of the tax implications

        [–]person-ontheinternet 7 points8 points  (4 children)

        Yeah, if been trying to figure out my Robinhood exit strategy. Best I’ve come up with is to just start making my regular BTC contribution ($x biweekly for me) into an actually BTC account (still picking a service, recommendations welcome). Then in a year or so I can begin selling my Robinhood crypto so it’s taxed as capital gains and transfer it into BTC. Might be a gap in my understanding as I was dumb enough to buy crypto on Robinhood.

        [–]ss4oy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Just a reminder that you can use Robinhood as a funding source on other platforms as well, if you open an cash management account with them(you get a debit card too). That means you can sell on RH, and immediately buy on other legit sites using the the money that came back to your RH cash balance. This helps reducing the time it cost to transfer money in between 2 different platforms. I suggest finding a platform that supports this feature and also check the limit on ACH transferring. If you don’t have a lot on RH, you might be able to transfer all within the same day. Note that it still takes couple days to clear, but some allows you to use that balance right away for trading. This is the best way I have come up with to mitigate my mistake of buying it on RH in the first place. This doesn’t change the tax factor in anyway though. Hope this helps.

        [–]Hodlonfordearlif3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Thanks!

        [–]jay-zigg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Just hodl an open another account that let's you "buy" never good to keep all your eggs in one basket

        [–]freeradicalx 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        For this same reason I don't use music and video "leasing" (streaming) services. Apple Music, Tidal, Spotify, Netflix, Hulu, etc. I'm not into the idea of paying a continual subscription for content that isn't guaranteed to actually be available when I want to enjoy it. Where others see convenience I see theft.

        [–]reddit4485 22 points23 points  (7 children)

        I don't think you should buy bitcoin through Robinhood either but just to clarify. Robinhood was issued a Bitlicense through the government which requires that for every bitcoin bought by their customers they have equal amount real bitcoin in custody. So when you buy bitcoin from them it does take an equal amount out of the market and places it in storage which is unusable for any other purpose.

        (b) To the extent a licensee stores, holds, or maintains custody or control of virtual currency on behalf of another person, such licensee shall hold virtual currency of the same type and amount as that which is owed or obligated to such other person. (c) Each licensee is prohibited from selling, transferring, assigning, lending, hypothecating, pledging, or otherwise using or encumbering assets, including virtual currency, stored, held, or maintained by, or under the custody or control of, such licensee on behalf of another person except for the sale, transfer, or assignment of such assets at the direction of such other person. 23 CRR-NY 200.9

        Robinhood is also working on a wallet where you can transfer your bitcoin to your own wallet. https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/buying-stocks/articles/robinhood-plans-to-launch-a-crypto-wallet-as-fast-as-possible/

        [–]restore_democracy 13 points14 points  (4 children)

        Get out of here with your facts, you’re going to ruin their narrative!

        [–]Bpax94 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Lol I may not own it, but the money I made in RH crypto is real.

        [–]Ketaloge 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        If you don't have the private keys you don't own any bitcoin.

        [–]WUMIBO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        They still will run into Liquidity issues with how popular they are, they have something like $30b of AUM which is a joke. The top is Vanguard with $7.1 trillion, Fidelity has $4 trillion and they're revising their app to be a lot more like Robinhood, the next few popular ones have $1-4 trillion.

        [–]stvbckwth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Then so is any brokerage that says you can buy stock. You are not buying a stock, you are buying an IOU for the stock. Who cares if you actually own it or not, the end result is the same.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I made a profit. I don't care.

        [–]chrisbaker1991 141 points142 points  (118 children)

        I use Coinbase and I'm a noob that didn't do much research. Did I fuck up?

        [–]Think_Double 204 points205 points  (50 children)

        no coinbase is legit. the fees can be high but it's noob-friendly

        [–]IllVagrant 51 points52 points  (0 children)

        Just hop over to coinbase pro (different website same company) and you can do manual buying and selling for pennies. Coinbase’s fees come from having them make the trade on your behalf. You can bypass that by just using their pro site.

        Ignore the nonsense about using PayPal which has the same limitations as Robinhood

        [–]Agabone 73 points74 points  (22 children)

        Switch to Coinbase pro. Google it cos they don’t explain it on Coinbase regular but it’s simple to move. If you don’t, regular Coinbase fees will eat the profit out of every transaction! Best of luck and HODL!

        [–]recyclopse18 27 points28 points  (9 children)

        Fees are less on pro??

        [–]OverlordActua1 34 points35 points  (8 children)

        Yep. Just deposited $50 yesterday. Fees on coinbase are $2.99. Fees on pro were $0.99.

        [–]recyclopse18 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Ooof.. thank you for pointing this out to me!

        [–]bo0ya 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        and what's hardware wallet u recommend?

        [–]illvm 16 points17 points  (5 children)

        If you HODL, the fees don’t really matter that much.

        [–]OverlordActua1 20 points21 points  (3 children)

        They do if you're stacking Satoshis over time. For me if I deposited $50 via Coinbase every pay period I'd have paid $77.74 at $2.99 per transaction. If I do Coinbase Pro its $25.47 at $0.99 per transaction.

        No its not much but it adds up over time

        [–]Nanaki_TV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Sometimes I wonder how much Bitcoin I lost in fees with my auto buy on Coinbase.

        [–]NoobPwnr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        What's the tradeoff of Pro?

        [–]Agabone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        The user interface isn’t so simplified like regular Coinbase. But if you’ve traded stock before the Pro interface won’t be too unfamiliar. And if you’re totally new to it, it’s simple enough to learn. As far as I’ve experienced that’s the only meaningful trade off.

        [–]Gh0st_Pirate_LeChuck 30 points31 points  (20 children)

        Just make sure you buy with Coinbase Pro then transfer to Coinbase. Much lower fees.

        [–]fuzzyduck88 7 points8 points  (13 children)

        Iv commented before on how I can’t buy coins on CBP using a debit card but just got downvoted and told you can. The option just simply isn’t there on my account. Only the option to transfer funds which takes days. I even enquired with CB and they just sent me a link to their help page.... waste of time. I still don’t know does it work by region or what. I can use my card on regular CB but not pro 🤷🏻‍♂️

        [–]Gh0st_Pirate_LeChuck 4 points5 points  (7 children)

        Ok I figured it out. Deposit the funds into your Coinbase account using your debit card. Then, login to CBP and there you can instantly transfer those funds from Coinbase into CBP.

        Edit: You can’t deposit with a debit card. Can only buy. Bummer. Also, can only buy with debit card on Coinbase; not Coinbase Pro.

        [–]mrkrabz1991 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        A lot of this subreddit is a coinbase circlejerk. Say anything negative about them and you get shunned, but people need to realize there are better options out there.

        [–]supergrega 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        Why transfer to regular coinbase?

        [–]Gh0st_Pirate_LeChuck 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        It’s a personal choice. Some like the simple UI.

        [–]no_more_left 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Why transfer from pro to cb?

        [–]PeacefullyFighting 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Get coinbase pro. It's free and lower fees. You can also move coins between coinbase and coinbase pro for free if you like the coinbase interface.

        [–]c0horst 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        If you can actually withdraw your crypto to a hardware wallet, you didn't fuck up, as long as you don't leave more than you're willing to lose on the exchange. I use Coinbase Pro, and the second I can move my crypto off the exchange I do (gotta wait a week for my bank transfer to clear).

        [–]cr_elmao 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        nope coinbase is legit

        [–]TheSlothJesus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I don’t think so. I’ve had multiple issues with em but they always fixed it.

        [–]WallStreetBoners 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Coinbase pro is my current tool.

        [–]keithkman 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        There is also Coinbase Pro (totally free and uses your Coinbase login). Much lower fees than Coinbase.

        [–]TheGoudeAbides 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Coinbase is fine. But then move to your own wallet. If you don’t have the keys, you don’t own your coin.

        [–]mrkrabz1991 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Coinbase is fine if you don't know a lot about how it works, but you pay a premium for it. Just buying a little is fine on Coinbase, but if you're trading a lot there are better options.

        [–]sb_kanela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I was doing all on coinbase because the simplicity and user friendly. Then i started using UPHOLD and found out it was similar use and cheaper to swap, and i didnt pay to buy and receive directly in my bank account.

        Since then ive tranfered half of my investments from coinbase to uphold.

        It suits for me.

        Best wishes

        [–]reddog323 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        How long did it take you to get through all the user agreements? I’m trying to get an account, but it looks like days of clicking on agreements on my phone.

        [–]jaapiekrekel101 102 points103 points  (10 children)

        It’s a dirty IOU... 💩

        [–]LooMinairy 66 points67 points  (6 children)

        Yeah but we all know an IOU is better than money

        [–]turtleduck777 19 points20 points  (0 children)

        Lmao might want to hang on to that one.

        [–]Enki906 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        I downvoted this, then clicked the link 😂

        [–]ShittingOutPosts 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        Two hundred and seventy five thou.

        [–]RPOLITICMODSR_1NCELS 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Might wanna hold onto that one.

        [–]Bitcoin1776 15 points16 points  (0 children)

        Russell has made a lot of millionaires in his life.

        [–]swbr 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        My requisites for an exchange where I plan to exchange crypto:

        • Fair fee structure for my expected trade volume.
        • Able to transfer coins in/out without liquidation.
        • Able to wire or ACH fiat in/out as needed.
        • Reputation for solid security protocols.
        • Heightened transfer security protocols.
        • Advanced trade types available (i.e. trailing stop)
        • Good support track record and reputation.
        • Good tax time export, or CoinTracker compatible.

        I can’t seem to find one with everything on my list but I got very close with Bittrex and Binance.US

        What country you live in matters, too.

        I’m in the US and have been enjoying Kraken, Bittrex, and Binance.US. Each has their strengths and weaknesses for advanced uses, but any of these would easily serve a basic user’s needs.

        I used Robinhood with some of my portfolio for ease of trading both stocks and crypto from the same account. Left there after their recent fiascos and tried WeBull for the same reason. But I need access to move coins as needed without having to liquidate to fiat and get taxed.

        Also note that this is a rapidly evolving product landscape. So expect changes. I find comfort in having these three accounts active in case features or reliability changes for the worse on any of them. I could easily pop over to another where I’ve already set up an account.

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

        With that logic, wbtc and tbtc and renbtc aren't bitcoin 🤓

        [–]legoruthead 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Indeed, the “not your keys not your crypto” crowd doesn’t believe they are Bitcoin, because you don’t control the on-(correct)chain asset. All you control is an ERC IOU from the custodian

        [–]bitjava 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, they aren’t. Do they hold equal value? Theoretically, yes, but there’s risk involved. Holding actual bitcoin has more benefits than the corresponding fiat value.

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          [–]Jerseyprophet 39 points40 points  (0 children)

          This. It got even my mother to buy BTC. I dont use it, and I'm not endorsing it, but it does help the mainstreaming effort. If they implement wallets itll actually be a decent choice. Until then though, no, not a smart move.

          [–]ThePopeofHell 4 points5 points  (16 children)

          How is “no fees” a thing? Are they going to eat the fees?

          [–]gulfbitcoin 25 points26 points  (6 children)

          They never move coins on the blockchain, so those fees don't exist. They're just moving around fiat at the price the market says Bitcoin is worth.

          [–]amretardmonke 8 points9 points  (3 children)

          Basically a Bitcoin ETF. Not convertable to real bitcoin, not transferable, no proof they're not operating on fractional reserves. Why anyone would want this is beyond me. Better off just buying MSTR stock.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Worse than an ETF. They are more like a Contract for difference contract. An ETF holding you can transfer to another broker. CFDs must be closed, gain/loss incurred, then balance transferred.

          [–]mkz168 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          The same way they offer free trades for stocks.

          [–]gulfbitcoin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          If it doesn't move on a blockchain, it's not crypto.

          [–]MGuNNer88 40 points41 points  (7 children)

          As long as I can cash out and transfer the USDs to my bank I give absolute zero fucks.

          [–]joeyisexy 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          .....we can right?

          [–]MGuNNer88 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Yes. Absolutely. Don't let this miss information scare you.

          [–]Hexazine 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          seriously... why does anyone care?

          [–]MGuNNer88 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Good question. They're bitter and salty about Robinhood when it was multiple trading platforms halting trading in certain stocks and it was the SEC. Not just Robinhood. Also you can't transfer your crypto out of Robinhood to a secure wallet... YET... eventually transferring of crypto will be supported. Crypto is pretty new to Robinhood. It's mostly just mis information and personal vendetta.

          [–]Bits4Brains 24 points25 points  (4 children)

          Anybody who lost a significant amount of money (due to hacking or bad security practice) wishes they bought on RH instead of a true exchange, at this point.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Very true

          [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

          It does not matter. Being able to buy and sell on RH increases the number of people who are exposed to cryptocurrency and make for faster adoption

          [–]confidentpessimist 33 points34 points  (1 child)

          Say it again louder for the people in the back who haven't heard this exact same post 8000 times

          [–]Xenson1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          Read some of the replies on Twitter.

          [–]Wishy_washy_Though 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          I would much rather " not own" my bitcoin on RH than deal with the nightmare Coinbase has become. They have zero customer service. Also, Robinhood is planning a wallet in the future, at which time you would own your bitcoin. Another thing on Coinbase, I've personally had them charge me .03 over on each coin, that sounds small, but one time it happened when I bought 10k alt coins. Another shitty thing they do is screw you on your token to token conversions, then claim it was free. All this and there is nothing you can do about it.

          Scroll through the horror stories on Coinbase thread before making any switch.

          [–]fakelife123 49 points50 points  (51 children)

          I will never understand why some buy on RH....

          [–]papasmruf[S] 65 points66 points  (9 children)

          No fees and their app is very easy to use. But their core values suck, not many understand it though.

          [–]Pidganus 15 points16 points  (2 children)

          No fees just means ur not the customer anymore but the product. Dont see how that would be a positive thing.

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          Thr whole no fees thing.

          [–]OverlordActua1 44 points45 points  (28 children)

          At this point its got to be people in two categories.

          1) People who are new to crypto and have done zero research and just fell for the first platform they saw or the one that looked the cleanest UI wise.

          2) People who were already in RH before everything went to shit and are either too afraid to pull out or don't want to deal with the taxes of having to sell your crypto and withdraw cash since you can't transfer the actual crypto.

          Type 1 people are going to lose a lot of money and fast. Type 2 people are probably holding on for the introduction of wallets and crypto transfers. With the mass exodus of crypto from RH that I'm betting will happen I wonder how long the transfer function will last before they remove it or it "breaks".

          I'm also sure there are more than just these two types of people but I feel this encompasses a majority of people still using RH.

          Edit: formatting

          [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (18 children)

          I keep long term hold stuff on other platforms. But I like to use Robinhood to do day trade stuff on bitcoin because there is zero fees. And you can put limit buy/sell orders. With how volatile crypto is you can easily make a lot of money buying and selling it every couple of hours

          [–]mudblood29 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          you can easily lose a lot of money buying and selling it every couple of hours

          ftfy

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Luckily I have never lost any. Again long term stuff in another place. For fun day trading in Robinhood

          [–]OverlordActua1 5 points6 points  (8 children)

          I can see that. I will admit I still use RH for the UI since I've yet to find another platform that's as user friendly but I've long since taken everything out.

          I'm leery on trading crypto like that with how it's currently being taxed where I am so I've stuck with treating it almost like a high interest savings account and throwing in money every pay period.

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

          How is it currently being taxed? Maybe you have some information I am not aware of

          [–]ubsr1024 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          He's either talking about the 20% cap gains tax he'll pay for selling before 1 year is up, or he's talking about cap gains taxes he'll pay from day trading crypto

          Link to latter story in second reply

          [–]OverlordActua1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Right on the money lol

          [–]OverlordActua1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          He hit it right on the head.

          [–]cartmancakes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I dont know... RH was creepy as shit about gamestop. I just don't trust them.

          [–]magman4x4 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          They ran outta money, they had to do something 😂

          [–]Bitcoin1776 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          I never buy crypto on RH, but a guy I know wanted a meme coin, and said 'so I guess RH isn't bad for that'.

          One advantage of RH is easy tax reporting if you buying and selling (but I rarely sell to be frank).

          [–]bobzor 3 points4 points  (3 children)

          You're correct, I was completely new to crypto (I even thought you had to purchase a whole Bitcoin), and was very hesitant to buy anything from exchanges from all of the negativity I heard about them. Robinhood seemed easy, safe, and I had no clue what a wallet was. I just wanted to invest.

          Of course now I'm stuck on there, either I sell it and transfer the funds to my bank account, wait a week for the deposit, and buy on another exchange, and pay capital gains of 25% on any earnings, or just let it sit on RH for a while and buy any new crypto elsewhere. I would think they'd want to implement wallets.

          [–]pumpkin_pasties 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          I'm also stuck on Robinhood and new to stocks and invest in crypto through the app. Forgive my innocence, but if I "invest" in bitcoin and am able to cash out as it grows in value, whats the harm? I don't see a reason to pull out of a high-performing stock. Id rather just start a new wallet through a different service and keep my RH btc investment. What am I missing?

          [–]limerty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          1. People who are afraid of crypto and think it’s just easier and don’t have any intellectual curiosity or understanding of how badly they are handicapping themselves.

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Its a great platform to start which is what I did. I still have my old stuff on there but I dont actively buy on it anymore.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Convenience. It’s actually not difficult to understand.

          [–]Hari_Seldon_1234 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Some people consider “risks” as bad things that might happen to other people but would never happen to them, and willingly accept them.

          Some people misunderstand their “choice” of relinquishing custody to RH as something they could change mind later (the promised eventual ability to withdraw)

          Some people ignore the potential tax liability going down this path thus getting themselves into a trap (locked in to avoid CGT) or a bomb (CGT due to forced liquidation)

          Then I struggle to have any sympathy when I read horror stories about how things go wrong with using these “forced custody” providers.

          [–]Mundane_Walrus_6638 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          It’s ok. I didn’t understand money at one point either. Nor perspectives other than my own.

          [–]nexos12 4 points5 points  (5 children)

          Well its convenient to buy there

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

          You are making a bet on it in RH, not buying it.

          [–]JuniperTwig 7 points8 points  (3 children)

          Which isn't really a problem

          [–]fpcane305 9 points10 points  (3 children)

          The crypto snobs out in force in this thread. Roobinhood is a safe place for regular people to invest in crypto without having to worry about keys and wallets and all the other crap that makes some of you propeller heads achieve a hard on. FFS give your superiority complex a day off and let people do as they please without your condescending BS opinion on how everyone is doing it all wrong unless they are doing the way you do it...that is all...

          [–]Mangofert1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Amen man. I have had 0 issues with RH and has kept the money moving to the bank account seamlessly.

          [–]CyberneticCryptoWolf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          I cant wait till robin hood generates wallets so i dont have to see this posted all over reddit.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I know RH is very unpopular nowadays, but they are working on a way to withdraw your crypto from the app.

          [–]snvll_st_claire 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Let them do them. Ppl will always do whatever they want. Nothing surprises me. You like RH? Go for it. You make profit from Dogycoin? Congrats. Profit is profit. Let ppl do them. It’s all good.

          [–]najisadiq 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          I hear that a lot, especially regarding coinbase and the exchanges. I think those are a great and easy way for new users to join crypto. Robinhood though is really bad for everyone. Newcomers can't ever withdraw, Robinhood can and will restrict sell / buy and so on.

          [–]Armenelos12 10 points11 points  (3 children)

          To be fair I just talked to someone who bought some real crypto and synthetic crypto via Robinhood. Guess which one they lost and can’t regain access to. Don’t be elitist. For some it’s the best choice to start.

          [–]wasabiworm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          same applies to revolut

          [–]MuskMiners 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Great Post. Don't use RH for anything. That is all. ANYTHING ELSE! JUST NOT ROBIN HOOD

          [–]Flynn_Kevin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Had to explain this to a friend the other day. Got him to close RH, buy a hardware wallet, and open a CoinBase account.

          [–]Hambino0400 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          That’s fine I only use Bitcoin to make USD same for shitcoin. Closing in on $3k since right started 3 months ago. Sorry if that’s not the way people like but I’m making money that supports my family during the tail end of a pandemic and there all I care about. Actually owning the coin isn’t a priority the money I make from it. Is what matters

          [–]Ankurna 6 points7 points  (13 children)

          So what? If you get the profits and it's an easy way to cash out, what's wrong with using RH to trade crypto?

          [–]swbr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Their spreads were awful when I used them. They lost a lot of credibility during the GME fiasco. You can’t withdraw your crypto without selling into fiat which is a forced taxable event if you ever wanted to leave. Their trade types are really basic. Otherwise, nothing, they were fine for a while when I used them and I didn’t get burned. I just left. It’s great for new folks with not much on the line. They even dump your tax docs at tax time so you don’t have to do it manually like on a bunch of other exchanges.

          [–]lightgorm 2 points3 points  (11 children)

          Whats wrong? Whole point of bitcoin is literally NOT NEEDING anyone to own it for you. Thats the whole point, thats what bitcoin IS: KEEPING AND transacting value without third party. The whole entire point of btc is not buying it on exchanges that dont offer withdraw of bitcoin. Bying on rh is literally like hating pollution and buying aditional gas car that you dont neeed to lower pollution. Or sometn just doesnt make any sense

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            [–]50mm-f2 1 point2 points  (7 children)

            this isn’t about virtue signaling. people just don’t really understand the difference. RH could restrict trades at anytime. or if there is any sort of regulatory freeze on crypto, etc, you could lose all your BTC with RH. it’s untouchable if it’s in an offline wallet. if you’re fine with it, it’s up to you. a lot of people just don’t know this.

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              [–]50mm-f2 1 point2 points  (5 children)

              well within the next year your position may grow exponentially and if you want to move out of RH then, you’ll need to pay even more in taxes. don’t have to worry about that if it’s in cold storage. again, it’s a personal preference. but when people say you don’t actually own crypto with RH, they’re technically correct. I personally had a stash going with RH over the years, but I moved it all out as soon as things really started picking up steam and I feel much much better now.

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                [–]50mm-f2 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                your argument against pulling btc out of RH was that you’ll have to pay taxes. I’m saying that’ll always be the case and may even get worse overtime as laws change and your position grows. taxation is not the main reason for self-custody. but also correct, you don’t have to pay taxes while holding or even moving on-chain as long as it remains in your custody. one of the most powerful founding principles of bitcoin is borderless, global decentralization. if you believe in that, RH is the exact opposite of that principle .. if you don’t, that’s fine too .. but you just have to realize that you’re not really buying and holding bitcoin. again, it’s fine .. I don’t actually advise anyone to pull out of RH. the last thing I want is to tell someone to do that and setup a wallet instead and then they lose access to it. I’m just throwing my support behind people saying that “buying bitcoin with RH” is not really buying bitcoin.

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                  [–]HearMeRoar69 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Legally you do own it in terms of value but in IOU form, unless Robinhood is doing some shady IOU manipulation that cause them to own less Bitcoin than IOUs. It's same as buying a gold ETF (assuming it has no fee), you do own the equivalent value in gold, but in IOU form, and the gold ETF do actually own a vault with physical gold in it.

                  [–]Derpoderpison 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Buy some million dollar rats instead own something unique

                  [–]GeezMonster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Realistically I get people are on a witch hunt about RH and crypto. Webull put out crypto the other week you can buy it but you don’t own the keys there either. If I’m wrong someone lmk please.

                  [–]AwareStrategy 4 points5 points  (13 children)

                  Buying bitcoin on ANY exchange is not owning bitcoin

                  [–]najisadiq 12 points13 points  (3 children)

                  That's true but Robinhood is worse, you can't even withdraw to a wallet

                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                  so what is? withdrawing to a wallet?

                  [–]If_You_Only_Knew 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                  so you dont own the bTC you buy off the coinbase exchange and send to your wallet?

                  [–]Dexaan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Exchanges should be used as an easy way to exchange fiat and Bitcoin.

                  [–]derisx 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Is Crypto.com any good? Just started using it a couple days ago...

                  [–]najisadiq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Personally, I like it very much, the card also has great benefits

                  [–]HannesVM 2 points3 points  (23 children)

                  Why would anyone who really into this with a future perspective not use a big exchange like Binance, Kraken or Coinbase

                  [–]Beagleoverlord33 6 points7 points  (9 children)

                  Because as someone pointed out some people just want to invest and get some exposure. They don’t need to own the coins just profit from the trend.

                  [–]OverlordActua1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  At this point its beginners who don't know any better or people who were in before everything went to shit and are either too afraid to pull out or don't want to deal with the taxes of having to sell your crypto and withdraw cash since you can't transfer the actual crypto.

                  [–]Think_Double 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  some people just open the app and throw 50/100 in

                  [–]hateschoolfml 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                  Hopefully they allow you to withdraw soon at least

                  [–]papasmruf[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  Miners are going to celebrate when Robinhood allows transferring Crypto! They will collect alot of fee from people breaking away from Robinhood chains..

                  [–]OverlordActua1 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                  They said wallets are coming on their AMA but refused to give a date. I'm wondering how long that function will last before they stop or limit it once they see a mass exodus of crypto from their platform.

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                    [–]crazyblane 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Can you not transfer your bitcoin out of Robinhood to your own wallet?

                    [–]Drugsandotherlove 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Nope. Better to use a real exchange as Robinhood has a demonstrated history of being shady.

                    [–]Never-Trump-Never 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    That is correct ...

                    They are not like Square or CoinBase...

                    Robinhood Never Gives you Bitcoin When you buy it ....

                    You only have Cash Back when You sell it!

                    You can’t do anything with it Except Sell it ....

                    Again Cash In and Cash Out!

                    No Coin for You! Or Soup Either

                    QQ

                    [–]mclovin0075 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                    how bout binance tho?

                    [–]If_You_Only_Knew 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    if you can send the coins to your own wallet, they are yours.