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[–]Article23Point1 3284 points3285 points  (130 children)

Imagine losing all of your investments simply because you cannot shut the fuck up

[–]simplelifestyle 1343 points1344 points  (98 children)

Kanye learnt that too late, as Elon, Alex Jones and Trump will.

[–]Segat1133 668 points669 points  (68 children)

Ehh Trump will always be able to rebound because he has an entire cult behind him to fund whatever he needs

[–]the1999person[🍰] 395 points396 points  (51 children)

And he just sold his $4.5 million dollar baseball card collection.

[–]love_glow 245 points246 points  (8 children)

Probably sold most them to Jared to launder money for the Saudi’s.

[–]dreamcastfanboy34 115 points116 points  (4 children)

Funny how all four of them are linked to Trump and all four are human garbage facing their reckoning

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (2 children)

Con artists love working with other con artists

Like musicians jamming, con artists take pride in their ability to socialize with other anti-socials

[–]Content_Flamingo_583 133 points134 points  (8 children)

To Alex Jones’s credit, the source of his income was shooting his mouth off like a lunatic.

But Elon Musk has no excuse. He purposefully went out of his way to broadcast his brainless alt-right politics in a majorly public way, even though no one asked and it’s only severely harmed him.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (5 children)

Can you imagine? All he had to do was let his PR team(s) keep doing what they were doing while he lived a life of excess and luxury almost none of us on this planet can even comprehend. Even then he managed to fuck up.

[–]bbasey 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Crazy thing is he's lost so much and can still do that.

[–]CustomerSuportPlease 29 points30 points  (1 child)

More than that, he spent $44 billion to make sure that all of his friends could also share their alt-right opinions with total impunity.

[–]cheddarben 34 points35 points  (1 child)

All of these people are going to be fine, which is part of the problem. Even Alex Jones. He was ordered to pay x, y, z. I can guarantee you he is still going to live a life of wealth beyond your average American.

I got into a similar discussion and OJ got brought up, who was ordered to pay 33 million, but hasn't paid shit and interest now makes it close to 100 milly.

Dude lives in a mansion (a friend's property) and I am guessing things are juuuuust fine for him. Probably a good car. He gets spotted at events and likely treated like a VIP wherever he goes.

These guys may see consequences, but living in poverty in the way that you and I understand poverty is not one of them.

[–]breesidhe 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Jones fucked up majorly. Thing is, you might be fine if you lose a court case. You will NOT be fine when you lose because you ignored the court and proceed to hide both money and information from the court. And then figuratively stick your tongue out at them.

Jones' initial case wasn't that bad. But he ignored it. Which led to a default judgement. Which he appealed. Then he hid assets from the court... then he refused court orders to provide information. Then right after the case finished he announced -- not just in public, but broadcasted -- that he would ignore the court decision.

If you need to know one thing about the law, it's that judges will NOT be pleased with people flagrantly ignoring their authority. He's not going to get away with anything.

A good hint? Here's one part of the new order: “[Jones was] not to transfer, encumber, dispose or move his assets out of the United States until further order of the court.”

OJ is a different story. He didn't piss off the court. Jones did.

[–]WaitingForNormal 3695 points3696 points  (401 children)

That should help the already crumbling stock.

[–]Dignifiedgiraffe 2069 points2070 points  (317 children)

I have one and basic shit is breaking constantly. When I picked it up from the dealer (it was brand new) the heater stopped working on the way home during the dead of winter. The car had less than 1000 km on it. Luckily it’s still under warranty, but we’re looking to sell it asap because of how shit it’s ended up being - oh and because Elon is a fucking cunt.

[–]thunderturdy 938 points939 points  (224 children)

Friend got one (lives in Michigan) and in the winter it’s nearly undriveable. Windows will freeze shut, trunk froze shut, DOORS have frozen shut. Then on top of it all, you can’t just take it to any mechanic for service, it MUST go back to Tesla. So when they had issues in the north of the state they basically had to get an expensive ass tow back down to Detroit to get it fixed, stranding them up north. They’re pretty well off so they got a rental, but still the hassle wasn’t worth it. They sold it this past summer lol.

[–]Dignifiedgiraffe 625 points626 points  (127 children)

Oh Yeha dude it blows in the winter. The instruction manual literally says that you should hit the door Handles with the back of your hand in winter because they freeze shut. Great so I need to punch my brand new car to get into it. Also, you can no longer dial back the regenerative braking so in winter when you let off the gas the car tends to fishtail on icy roads. It’s sketchy as fuck. You used to be able to set it to low regen and that helped but they removed this for some reason. So I’m winter I just have to either drive super slowly everywhere or almost die. In summer if you have cruise control on the car will occasionally slam on the brakes when it thinks a shadow is a car. It happens so often that I don’t use cruise control on sunny days. Cool,

[–]bob_bobington1234 463 points464 points  (19 children)

That's what happens when you ditch the radar system for a camera based system. The same thing happens to my Roomba when it's on a dark carpet, of course when my Roomba gets stuck there isn't much possibility of me dying.

[–]Dignifiedgiraffe 283 points284 points  (9 children)

I’m glad my car uses the same tech as a vacuum 😂 unfortunately teslas suck at vacuuming.

[–]bob_bobington1234 135 points136 points  (2 children)

Yup, they both suck. But one at least was designed specifically to suck.

[–]Green_Message_6376 77 points78 points  (1 child)

one sucks and the other one blows.

[–]dimsum2121 18 points19 points  (0 children)

What a proper distinction lol

[–][deleted] 90 points91 points  (1 child)

Not true! I had a small pile of pet hair on the dining room carpet and drove my Tesla through the kitchen sliding glass door to get to it. Now I barely notice the hair!

[–]MikeMac999 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Teslas are great at vacuuming up money.

[–]Johnnybravo60025 47 points48 points  (1 child)

I always imagined it as our Roomba being afraid of shadows and it made that design flaw cute.

[–]bob_bobington1234 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The cliff detector is a good thing but it airs on the side of caution a bit too much sometimes.

[–]Civil-Attempt-3602 153 points154 points  (6 children)

Ah, phantom braking. That actually caused an 8 car pile up in a tunnel a little while ago

https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/23/tesla_driver_software_crash/

[–]Davidclabarr 64 points65 points  (1 child)

I rented them frequently when gas was crazy high, and you just learn that you can’t trust self driving when you’re passing huge trucks or any car going 15+ mph slower than you.

But oh that first time it slammed on the brakes in the middle of the highway was terrifying. Bumper to bumper in Atlanta traffic at 65 mph, and it decelerated to 30 in a second or two… terrifying.

[–]Andrelliina 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Gotta love The Register - great site for reading what IT pros think of tech's latest clusterfuck

[–]fastidiousavocado 108 points109 points  (83 children)

Also, you can no longer dial back the regenerative braking so in winter when you let off the gas the car tends to fishtail on icy roads.

This is what baffles me about electric cars and automated driving -- the winter aspect. How on earth can you do single-pedal driving in winter? Can you shut off regenerative braking in other brands? How does ABS work? Etc. I just don't have any experience with it, so I don't know. But I keep hearing how the "future of cars" will include this and not that and forget about the other, and wonder, "Has anyone driven this in winter?"

[–][deleted] 230 points231 points  (7 children)

Winter is not a concern in the future

[–]krystopher 90 points91 points  (9 children)

My snarky response to this after owning two electric vehicles and going back to ICE was that they were designed in California for Californians.

45-50mph traffic flow, stop n go driving, mild temps, and sun year round.

[–]GaseousGiant 11 points12 points  (2 children)

This. It’s a car for California.

[–]Far-Network-1789 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Too bad he has been shitting on California and Californians for the last couple of years. Fucking dumbest smart person ever

[–]DUIguy87 34 points35 points  (12 children)

In the Audi E-Tron GT and Porsche Taycan (and across VW generally I’d imagine) they just coast when you let up on the pedal. The first 1/3rd or so of pedal travel is just slowly ramping up regen braking after that the brakes actually begin to bite. Makes it drive more like a standard combustion car.

[–]shadow247 43 points44 points  (6 children)

Which is exactly how a competent team of engineers with loads of experience in how a car actually functions.

Its so painfully obvious that Elon is just making shit up and got lucky.

I predict the Cybertruck to be a massive disaster.

[–]TangyGeoduck 43 points44 points  (5 children)

Bold of you to assume the cybertruck will actually ever be released, with legacy companies like Ford beating them to the punch with a better planned out electric trucks.

[–]dreamcastfanboy34 90 points91 points  (19 children)

Tesla used non automobile screens in their cars so they literally melt when it's hot out.

Apparently Teslas can only be driven in 70 degree temperatures

[–]verygoodchoices 48 points49 points  (6 children)

So, California.

Actually makes a ton of sense.

[–]TactileMist 75 points76 points  (40 children)

I've never had a brand new car before. Is having 1000km already done normal? Because that seems like a lot for brand new

[–]Genids 94 points95 points  (14 children)

Absolutely not. Like fifty miles at the absolute highest

[–]TactileMist 23 points24 points  (6 children)

Where's that conversion bot when I need it? That's about 80km, a long way short of 1000.

Must have taken it on one hell of a test drive

[–]Genids 34 points35 points  (3 children)

My guess would be test drives for other customers

[–]jeroenemans 14 points15 points  (2 children)

... That noticed the heater was broken

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (9 children)

My friend parked one next to our 2011 Volvo and Jesus crist the build quality between Volvo and Tesla is like night and day. Every button, switch and moving chunk of metal just has a satisfying “clunk” on our Volvo, like someone who used to work for IKEA moved next door to Volvo and spent the next 20 years designing the perfect car door.

Meanwhile fuck all fits properly on the Tesla, a 5 year old could build better with a Lego set. I’d be so pissed if I owned one, IMHO there should be a class action against him for selling that level of crap at that price. Even Jaguar LandRover, who aren’t exactly top of the reliability stats manage to screw bits of car together in a logical way!

Im kinda hopeful about Polestar and may like one eventually. An electric car running Volvo/Polestar bits would get my vote any day.

[–]LukeDude759 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Wait, Land Rovers are more reliable than Teslas?! That's gotta fucking hurt lmao

[–]BolOfSpaghettios 8 points9 points  (9 children)

I have a 2018 MS and my wife has a 2020 Model Y. We found them not to be any worse than other ICE vehicles we've owned, but then again these were earlier models. Speaking of winter, all you've said below is true. Handles freeze over on the Y, and I preemptively defrost the handles on my S with a heat gun in the AM. It's been their mantra (to meet quarterly profits ofcourse) to ship as many vehicles and deliver them, then fix them on the back end. I didn't want to be anywhere near first name basis with the Tesla service center, but here we are. Wife has 50K miles on hers, I have 108K miles, but I'm thinking when I need a new car, it won't be a Tesla.

[–]ImAFuckinLiar 592 points593 points  (44 children)

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[–][deleted] 197 points198 points  (39 children)

Is this text art of a dude about to hang himself or of a dude with a hard cock or both?

[–]Azmoten 160 points161 points  (9 children)

It’s the Reddit mascot thing with a massive boner. What looks like a noose is that antenna thing it has.

Actually…What’s the mascot called again? A “Snoo?” That is pretty close to “noose.” You may be on to something.

[–]ImAFuckinLiar 295 points296 points  (24 children)

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[–]Thehibernator 149 points150 points  (13 children)

You know that feeling when you’re doing a magic eye but you just realized your face is all up in some ASCII ass poundage?

[–]Dentros1 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Aside from the ass poundage, reminds me of when my pops ran one of the biggest BBSs out of our basement when I was a kid. Some of the shit on there was odd.

[–]LetsTCB[🍰] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

That ain't not toucan I've ever seen

[–]IllustriousAct28 2109 points2110 points  (211 children)

What happens when your boss spends more time on Twitter and trying to run people's lives than working.

[–]Safetosay333 134 points135 points  (2 children)

He never learned how to be a boss, let alone a successful one.

Just because you own the company doesn't mean you know how to make it successful.

[–]Krojack76 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Elon just saw an advantage and took it. Back in 2004 he bought majority shares in Tesla thus making him the owner. It was already growing. It's been the only real all electric car maker for some time. That's not true anymore thus it's slipping.

I wouldn't buy a Tesla because it's charging port isn't standard.

[–]smashspete 1382 points1383 points  (169 children)

In this specific case these findings are unrelated to his new twitter antics. The cars are dog shit and it just so happens that the owner is (and always has been) a terrible human being

[–][deleted] 479 points480 points  (161 children)

It’s a decent car, but the standards are much higher than when they began, and they’ve utterly failed to keep up.

Ford, VW, Hyundai, and other EV pioneers must be a frequent act in Musk’s nightmares.

[–]HomerSTD 504 points505 points  (83 children)

Tesla had almost zero competition when they started. While they may have early on pioneered certain aspects of the electric car market and production he’s now got a lot of established competition and given his recent attacks on democrats, probably lessening govt funding. The car industry is cut throat and I gather the find out portion of Elons career is coming around the corner.

[–]erthian 176 points177 points  (12 children)

I just realized how ironic it is that his primary customer would have been environmentalists and nerds like me who just thought they were cool. Both overwhelmingly democrats.

[–]Content_Flamingo_583 122 points123 points  (10 children)

His biggest costumers have always been liberals. So it’s inane that he’s taken a dramatic turn to the alt-right. But I guess the megalomaniacal pull of being a billionaire was just too strong for him. How can he not support the party for lowering his taxes and making it easier for him to abuse his workers?

Will be funny when he realizes he no longer has any customers though. Alt-right losers aren’t buying luxery electric cars.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

he doesnt need customers now that his products have been found to be trash tier, now he needs the cult to buy to support his fight against the commie liberal leftist elite swamp

[–]DizzySignificance491 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Also the government he so soundly rails against.

[–]Raincoats_George 358 points359 points  (55 children)

Add to that he's going out of his way to instigate left leaning people. The very people who are buying teslas in the first place. Rest assured none of his qanon buddies can afford a tesla and wouldn't be caught dead in one if they could.

There was a time I wiuld have bought a tesla if I had the money. Now that will never happen. Nobody to blame but Elon.

[–]VaselineHabits 220 points221 points  (41 children)

Exactly, who is Tesla's market now? Progressives liked feeling that warm and fuzzy paying crazy money for a vehicle that is supposed to be better for the environment.

So Elon decided to attack progressives and Dems, and align with coal rolling RWingers... brilliant!

[–]avdpos 17 points18 points  (3 children)

But to be honest - if Elon manages to get some coal rollers to buy a Tesla as they think Elon is their allie things may be good fornthe world. Twitter won't be missed by many and other electrical cars are better. So if trash keep Tesla alive a But longer and phase out some diesel hungry beasts things may be rather ok.

[–]Jaysyn4Reddit 133 points134 points  (2 children)

There was a time I wiuld have bought a tesla if I had the money. Now that will never happen. Nobody to blame but Elon.

Same here.

[–]erthian 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Same. And not even for environmental reasons at all. They just looked cool af. If I had one now I’d be unloading it so fast.

[–][deleted] 248 points249 points  (33 children)

There was a story where an expert in fit and finish reviewed Tesla cars a few years ago, and said they were terrible (and they mainly just looked at things like does the trunk line up properly with the body). Then they have issues like the time they delivered a car without a brake pad. Go to the dealership/service center and get it fixed easy right? Fuck no, schedule an appointment 3 months out because Tesla doesn't pay enough to staff their repair centers, refuses to admit there's a problem, and uses its electronics to lock out 3rd party repairs. They're definitely unreliable due to policy and trying to be the Apple of cars (No wonder Apple wanted in the self driving car market, par for the course of their bullshit.)

[–]jagpilotohio 177 points178 points  (12 children)

This story is actually not a surprise to anyone that’s been paying attention. Reviewers have been talking about quality control and reliability issues forever but they keep getting a pass because they’re “new to making cars”. Well, they aren’t new to it anymore. Way past time to figure it out.

[–]realbakingbish 136 points137 points  (8 children)

Funny thing… we didn’t really give a pass to Kia or Hyundai when they first came on the market, and called them out for loads of issues early on, and those were meant to be cheaply-made affordable cars in the beginning. Tesla targets the luxury market, and Tesla money also buys a Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc. and Tesla’s build quality and reliability is horrid especially when compared to their established luxury car competition.

People have been super kind to Tesla for years, but now that viable EV competitors are out there without all of Tesla’s issues, Tesla needs to figure their shit out.

[–]jagpilotohio 91 points92 points  (5 children)

The new EV Hyundais, Kia’s, GM’s, and Fords are good products….and they’re actually good at making cars. Some of the Tesla fanboys may finally be realizing the company isn’t worth nearly 10 times what Ford is worth. So strange.

[–]amazinglover 53 points54 points  (1 child)

Not just fanboys but the stock market as well.

There stock isn't dropping so much because of Musk but because people are finally evaluating it as a car company not a tech company.

Tech companies get over inflated because investors want to be in in the new hotness car companies don't get that privilege.

[–]palsc5 61 points62 points  (7 children)

There are so many issues that constantly pop up. Paint too thin or almost no clear coat applied, paint scratched, missing panels, swirled paint, missing seals, ill-fitting seals, creaking internal panels, missing external pieces etc

[–]sspelak 24 points25 points  (1 child)

“But it’s okay because waves hands at radio screen we put your Steam library on your radio!!!”

[–]antunezn0n0 40 points41 points  (2 children)

it's not just the standards is the dog shit consumer service. i have experience and heard many stories where trying to get anything fixed takes forever something that should be unheard of foelr what's basically a luxury brand. there's hundreds of bad reviews on the service whenever they decide a part is useless and there's a callback because they suck at making it convenient to the consumer

[–]Shot-Button6031 91 points92 points  (14 children)

tesla were basically the first ones really making EVs popular, and everyone else was content to let them do the trailblazing. But now that they've made EVs a thing in the eye of the public, the other auto manufacturers are going to rush in and destroy them.

[–]Patient_Inevitable58 54 points55 points  (4 children)

He could have kept the “factor” those cars use to have if he just shut the fuck up. Like dude you don’t have to have an option about everything you absolutely shouldn’t have done SNL you don’t have any experience preforming and you’re going to try and do LIVE fucking tv after a week of practice. The absolute worse SNL I’ve ever seen

[–]Nervous_Constant_642 38 points39 points  (2 children)

Everyone I've met with a Tesla is obsessed with its branding. What Elon has been doing for years is the very definition of pulling the rug out from under yourself. He had a very strong foundation for a brand and then decided he wanted to play around with a jackhammer.

[–]Glittering-Cellist34 106 points107 points  (8 children)

Actually his being away from Tesla, were they to appoint a CEO with manufacturing expertise, would benefit the company.

[–]xixbia 117 points118 points  (2 children)

Honestly, just a CEO that doesn't need a team of "Elon wranglers" to stop him from fucking everything up would be a massive benefit, manufacturing expertise or not.

[–]earthman34 35 points36 points  (0 children)

What happens when your boss knows jack shit about the car business.

[–]No_Sheepherder7447 61 points62 points  (1 child)

Well if the libs hadn't made him do it, he could get back to Tesla but he's a warrior for righteous justice (not an SJW, that's different, only leftist snowflakes are SJWs).

Fucking Qlon

[–]breadexpert69 2623 points2624 points  (563 children)

Putting the tech aside. Tesla’s car build quality and control is atrocious for the price they are asking.

It seriously feels like a plastic box when you are inside. Very noisy and stiff bumpy ride. Not acceptable for a brand that sells itself as “luxury”.

Teslas advantage was that they were the first in the game and that they have their own chargers. But eventually chargers will be universal. And they are no longer alone in the EV luxury market

[–]earthman34 1212 points1213 points  (88 children)

What, you think $120 grand for a car that has plastic trim that falls off randomly is too much? There's just no pleasing some people.

[–]TechnicalCloud 387 points388 points  (26 children)

Hey, they even are nice enough to zip tie some pieces together during the build process. They are innovating while other companies use grommets or bolts

[–]Davido400 88 points89 points  (17 children)

I've got grommets in my ears! Dunno what for but am just putting that out there!

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (7 children)

You don't happen to like Wensleydale cheese?

[–]Davido400 31 points32 points  (1 child)

In reality ave never tried it! But I do have the Wrong Trousers on and am about to have A Close Shave for a Grand Day Out with Shaun the Sheep!

[–]permaculture 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Crackin'

[–][deleted] 103 points104 points  (31 children)

When people ask why I got my Niro EV instead of a Tesla, I tell them about the time I pulled up next to a Model X and the gullwing doors were not aligned with the front doors. If you're buying a $130,000 for a vehicle, it should be perfect.

Compare the Model S to the Lucir Air or Mercedes EQS. Compare the Model X to the Mercedes EQS SUV or the new, non i3 BMW EVs. There is no reason, imo, to get a Tesla over any competitors vehicles.

[–]crisperfest 107 points108 points  (12 children)

Meanwhile, my $50k Cadillac XT5 has hand-stitched leather and real-wood trim, or I could get the fully-electric Cadillac Lyriq with similar quality trim for about $60k.

[–]Milsivich 147 points148 points  (5 children)

Yeah but does buying a Cadillac make you feel like you’re one step closer to finally being able to gargle Elon Musk’s balls? I think that’s Tesla’s true niche, at this point, and I don’t see Cadillac displacing that market share

[–]2stinkynugget 353 points354 points  (235 children)

Tesla had the advantage of being the 1st real player in electric car market. But I think they look like shit and they are cheap inside.

The big car companies are all making nicer electric cars now. Tesla's days as 1st name in electric are numbered.

[–]MonicaZelensky 236 points237 points  (102 children)

They don't even have the tech advantage, honestly. The F-150 lighting has a conveter that can run your house's electricity for up to 3 days.

[–]DumatRising 93 points94 points  (63 children)

What the fuck how much is stored in that bad boy?

[–]Comms 90 points91 points  (59 children)

98 or 130kwh

[–]DumatRising 55 points56 points  (53 children)

Jesus. Some big kahones on that guy.

[–]bintherematthat 167 points168 points  (43 children)

Yea. Ford basically said “how do we make the people who normally want to buy an F-150 buy an EV” and it seems there answer was to just make it incredibly badass.

[–]DumatRising 70 points71 points  (13 children)

I mean it's working. I'm not usually a pickup guy cause affordability and the enviorment and all that, but damn are they badass. Might have to get an EV truck next time I'm in the market for a vehicle. The Silverado and rivian EV looks crazy too. It is a good time for those who are pickup guys.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Not even gonna lie I’m not a truck person at all in fact trucks are not very interesting to me at all and I don’t fantasize much about owning one at all. However the F-150 lightning seems like it’s almost the best value new electric vehicle I would love to have one.

[–]Raincoats_George 69 points70 points  (22 children)

Tesla could have killed it getting a nice looking electric pickup to market. People were making mock up tesla trucks and they honestly looked dope. Then you got the fucking cybertruck and it looks like absolute dog shit. Now that the major car companies are not only making EV versions of just about every type of vehicle but also pickups and sports cars, there's just no way tesla can recover.

Tesla management kept the company afloat in spite of Elon. That could only be sustained for so long. It's gonna be a long ride down. Soon to be just another delorian or Indian brand that people collect, except no tesla will last long enough to end up a vintage vehicle.

[–]breadexpert69 73 points74 points  (67 children)

I think Elon knew it would not last very long, thats probably why he is searching for new business. I predict they will let Tesla slowly die out until someone else buys them. I dont see them working on anything new or revolutionary to bring them back up.

[–]earthman34 95 points96 points  (27 children)

Their R&D budget is tiny compared to any other carmaker...this is how they turn a short term profit, and it's 100% Musk's doing. If they had the same kind of R&D expense as say, Ford, they would have lost 18 billion dollars last year.

[–]Drago1214 15 points16 points  (4 children)

All the people waiting for their Elon bank loan scam cyber truck to come out. How long as it been? If it gets released I will be surprised.

[–]Redqueenhypo 79 points80 points  (12 children)

Also no offense Tesla owners, but your door is bad. Just make it a normal handle not this unintuitive crap. Also the sunroof is wrong and the touchscreen makes me worry about distracted driving.

[–]GrayBox1313 257 points258 points  (109 children)

I rode in a model 3 as a Lyft ride the other day. Rattled like an old crown Vic cab. The driver steering wheel was just peeling apart. Like giant pieces of material hanging. The seat backs were plastic. The leather was basic untextured and vinyl-like. Very little interior refinements. The dash reminded me of a golf cart with an iPad mounted.

I also rode in a Prius on the same trip as that was so much nicer in comparison.

Tesla is trying to pass basic off as minimal but it’s just really basic.

[–]mkerugbyprop3 68 points69 points  (3 children)

That crown Vic will last +200k miles too

[–]pm0me0yiff 26 points27 points  (1 child)

200k miles as a cab ... in NYC.

[–]imchasingyou 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Or as a cop car, being beaten, run like shit, idling for hours on the side of the highway

[–]rachelmae77 63 points64 points  (0 children)

I was a claims adjuster and usually had to work to find body shops willing to work on them specifically because they didn’t want to get blamed for the quality of the car

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Man, if the European Commission is able to get Apple to bend to a universal charging system, what the fuck chance does Tesla think it has at keeping its proprietary plug? If literally anyone had to guess which company had more allies on the EC (Tesla or Apple), what would 101% of us say?

[–]Miserable-Lizard[S] 786 points787 points  (27 children)

Everything is going so well for Musk this year!!!!! It couldn't be happening to a better person.

[–]CasualEveryday 284 points285 points  (22 children)

The bullshit smokescreen is starting to dissipate. People can see the conman he is clearly now.

[–]Moose_is_optional 127 points128 points  (7 children)

I've never seen anyone squander so much public good will. He could have kept his mouth shut (starting around 2018), and most people would still have vaguely positive thoughts about him.

[–]ZincMan 59 points60 points  (4 children)

Until he did his Twitter poll it was literally everyday for a good month and a half he would say something stupid or lower general public opinion of him. It’s like he didn’t truly believe he could fuck up. When he banned those journalists that was the tipping point, someone told him that was close to him he was fucking up

[–]Miserable-Lizard[S] 102 points103 points  (11 children)

The biggest con he as done is him selling the self driving feature and never delivering!

[–]Aint-no-preacher 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I’m surprised the FTC hasn’t come after him for that scam.

[–]CasualEveryday 66 points67 points  (3 children)

Every vehicle they've announced has missed its production date by more than the lead time at announcement.

[–]Miserable-Lizard[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Cyber truck.....I remember awhile back he said he would make a affordable car..... Never happening..

[–]CurlyJeff 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Autopilot turning out to be vapourware is probably the most hilarious outcomes of the last couple years. Uber burned mountains of cash on it.

[–]bellendhunter 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nah, going to Mars is the biggest one which turned a lot of space geeks into Musk fanboys. I’d put money on SpaceX never putting a person on Mars, ever. The company will collapse before then.

[–]Vendidurt 397 points398 points  (18 children)

Inb4 Consumer Reports is banned from twatter.

[–]Miserable-Lizard[S] 171 points172 points  (2 children)

I wonder when Musk's starts calling everything fake news.

[–]Morguard 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He will start calling them pedophiles or left woke main stream media.

[–]Jslays82 550 points551 points  (25 children)

This is quite lovely to watch unfold in real time, Merry Christmas everyone

[–]CaptainMagnets 125 points126 points  (4 children)

So quickly too. I wish things like this would happen to companies like Nestle

[–]your_mind_aches 59 points60 points  (0 children)

Nestle is more of a real company than Tesla. I feel like my country and many others would go into immediate disarray if Nestlé ceased to exist.

That said, I would love if all the leadership were fired with no golden parachute and all assets were redistributed.

[–]SabashChandraBose 65 points66 points  (13 children)

What's crazy is they are failing at the part of the car that has been established and has high standards. They nailed the battery tech, but compromised on tolerances and paint job. Idiots.

Also they ruined in car user experience with the touch screen.

[–]MrCarey 125 points126 points  (12 children)

Jesus Christ, before he went full on Trump level dumbass I was going to buy one of these. I'm so damn glad I decided to pay off all my debt before getting a new car. Polestar it is.

[–]Moses-the-Ryder 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Luckily we have a lot more options now but yeah I was in the same boat as you. Had fully intended on my families first EV to be a Tesla but there’s not a chance that happens anymore with that clown in charge

Toyota it is

[–]NewCoderNoob 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly my situation! One of my car’s coming to its retirement stage and a year ago I was just kind of blindly “oh Tesla next” - now, not in a million. What a repulsive human, he’s turning Tesla into a MAGA hat.

[–]zuzg 259 points260 points  (44 children)

Elon Musk deliberately got rid of Teslas PR department years ago when the first bad reviews happened.
It's known that they're overpriced mediocre EVs with bad Quality Assurance

[–]Matduka 89 points90 points  (0 children)

Jeremy Clarkson gave the first Tesla roadster a poor review. And Elon tried to sue HIM PERSONALLY and lost.

[–]earthman34 133 points134 points  (18 children)

Let's not forget them disabling fast charging for anybody that has their car serviced by third party garages.

[–]leakyfaucet3 68 points69 points  (15 children)

Is that true? That's a total dealbreaker for me. Would love a link if you have one.

[–]earthman34 68 points69 points  (9 children)

It is true, and it's happened to thousands of people. They do it to every car that gets a salvage title too, if they find out. What you need to understand, is that these fucking cars are online all the time, and send telemetry to Tesla that tells them everything you're up to, where you go, how fast, everything. They also have the ability to remotely disable the car or any part of it's functionality they want to. They own you.

[–]OwO_bama 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Them and any bored hacker. No way they have sufficient cybersecurity measures

[–]ricktech15 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Rich rebuilds talks about it alot on his YouTube channel, his first rebuild project was a model S that recently had fast charging disabled remotely years after being rebuilt

[–]TechnicalCloud 23 points24 points  (0 children)

They also will cancel your pre-order if they feel you are not being positive about the brand

[–]GlenjaminX 162 points163 points  (40 children)

What other major public company on earth would allow its stock to drop 70% in just over one year, and do nothing about its renegade CEO?

[–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (5 children)

Because Elon is a golden god and you peasants just don’t understand his genius, he’s playing 7d chess while you play snap, you just don’t understand his long term plan, thank you sir Elon for your genius getting us to mars and personally soldering together components in every Tesla car. (/s obvs)

[–]Matduka 40 points41 points  (2 children)

A starter car?? A Tesla is a finisher car!! A transporter of gods! THE GOOOLDEN GOD.

Elon's untethered and his rage knows no bounds!.

[–][deleted] 110 points111 points  (2 children)

It’s always nice to see Billionares fail. Even if he brings it back up, it’s a small momentary win

[–]ZincMan 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It’s almost hard to believe because we’re all so used to never seeing anyone with power face an consequences whatsoever. Looks like it’s going to be awhile too before things potentially get better as well

[–]earthman34 346 points347 points  (96 children)

Musk has cut everything to the bone at Tesla to get it to turn a profit. He's cut PR, R&D, there's no dealer network, just "stores", and the people in manufacturing are worked to the point they burn out and quit (keeps wages down). Tesla has no new models in the pipeline, really, and no plans for anything down-market, which is where most of the future growth in EVs is going to be. Tesla has had strong growth, but eventually you're going to run out of people who can spend $100k+ on a car...not to mention the warranties are expiring on the first model 3s, and we're already seeing the anecdotes about people facing $25k bills for new battery packs. While I get that EVs are a big part of the future, history is full of examples of new "high tech" in the automotive business crashing and burning after coming out of the gate looking very impressive. I remember Mazda's first rotaries, GM diesels, Cadillac's 4-6-8 system, DeLorean's horrible stainless steel bodies, there's lots of other examples.

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (5 children)

DeLorean's horrible stainless steel bodies

And Elon's betting Tesla's future on a pickup version of that.

[–]motguss 82 points83 points  (12 children)

To be fair cutting dealerships isn’t the worst idea

[–]greenroom628 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'd be for cutting out the middlemen and just pay MSRP.

[–]earthman34 18 points19 points  (1 child)

It is when there's no third party service.

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (32 children)

China specializes in low to mid range EVs. Once they saturate their own TAM the US will be be hard pressed and Tesla will fade.

[–]Milk93rd 23 points24 points  (0 children)

In other news, Mike Sington and Consumer Reports were banned from Twitter today in “separate” instances.

[–]Bulky-Internal8579 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I drink Piss! I'm a genius! - Failon Musk

[–]sanfou 43 points44 points  (8 children)

This has been known for years. All the quality control issues are horrible. I get it they’re still a fairly young “car” company; but it doesn’t excuse the way it’s being handled. They don’t give a shit. They’re not even trying to remedy the issues. AND you can’t even fix the damn car yourself or by other third party mechanic shops.

[–]EastabuchieEscapee 20 points21 points  (0 children)

When Lexus was first breaking into the US, they had a small issue on just a few of the LS 400. What did they do? They fixed all of them. Did you need to bring it in? No. They picked up your car, left a loaner, and when your car was returned to you it was detailed, full of gas, and had a small gift on the passenger side. They insisted on getting shit right.

[–]HarpoonNPuppies 32 points33 points  (1 child)

I can’t wait for Space Daddy to melt down on Twitter over this. Losing wealth by the day!

[–]TheBroNerd 28 points29 points  (3 children)

If it’s more unreliable than Chrysler that’s a fucking feat

[–]flaglerite 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I’d never buy a Tesla. Not a transparent company. Terrible reliability. Also not supporting Elon musk

[–]pmekonnen 59 points60 points  (25 children)

I find my tesla to be reliable. I really enjoy driving it. Not sure about this particular article- also F Musk

[–]AJDillonsMiddleLeg 51 points52 points  (8 children)

Hello fellow "I like my Tesla, and musk can go fuck himself" person.

[–]LoneStar9mm 100 points101 points  (37 children)

December's data from CR on Tesla

The Tesla Model 3 is now the second most reliable new electric vehicle you can buy. Only the new 2022 Kia EV6  is more trouble-free, but we don’t know whether it will match the proven record of the Model 3 as it ages. Data from over a thousand Tesla Model 3 owners tell us that every model year going back to 2018 has either average or better reliability. Taking the third spot is the second-generation Nissan Leaf. Consumer Reports recommends all three models

[–]bedir56 45 points46 points  (27 children)

My understanding from reading the article in the tweet is that they are reliable compared to other BEVs but unreliable compared non-BEVs.

Tesla scored a reliability score of 40/100, while electric vehicles overall scored 36/100.

..

Conversely, hybrid and PHEV vehicles crushed the competition with an average score of 78/100. And unsurprisingly, the brand with the most extensive representation within that segment, Toyota, achieved the number 1 spot with an overall reliability score of 72/100. Toyota was joined by Lexus, BMW, Mazda, and Honda in the top 5 (descending order).

[–]rock_and_rolo 59 points60 points  (5 children)

Where is the Must response saying "sus"?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They’re a status symbol for people with more dollars than sense.

[–]NoBongShouldLag 9 points10 points  (0 children)

When the ceo cares more about a overpaid social media platform then the company he used to finance the purchase of said platform this is all but expected.

[–]Grary0 87 points88 points  (24 children)

Tesla is entirely kept afloat by its image, they pass themselves off as high tech and luxury when they're simply not and they'll only stay successful as long as they can keep tricking people into believing their lie.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (5 children)

This is why you don’t hear about the Tucker, Kaiser-Frazer, or DeLorean anymore. Innovative car companies have to keep up when the major market emulates their ideas… or else they become Edsels of history.

[–]JudasWasJesus[🍰] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well they had a great marketing team

[–]sauceymcawesomepants 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Their QC/Final Finish is fucking trash.

[–]illbejiggswiggled 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Is anyone surprised?