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[–]NullOfSpace 554 points555 points  (4 children)

Tfw radians

[–]bogeyman_ 10 points11 points  (3 children)

How is that any better

[–]JuhaJGam3R 53 points54 points  (2 children)

It's correct if you use radians. eπi/2 = i

[–]Tiny_Dinky_Daffy_69 16 points17 points  (1 child)

It's correct if you use radians. eπi/2 = i

eπi/2 + i = 2i is know as the most beautiful equation on mathematics.

[–]Ratonx667 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought it was e+1=0

[–]Anal-deva-station 472 points473 points  (11 children)

More like 'e90i IQ'

[–][deleted] 193 points194 points  (8 children)

Replace 90 with π/2 and it's right. What's fun is to raise both sides to the I power and get the wonderful ii=e-π/2

[–]Neoxus30- 66 points67 points  (3 children)

An equal sign in the exponent, science really is astounding)

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Haha, was on mobile, fixed it. Thanks!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

(Only one bracket on the right of your comment, grammar really is astounding)

[–]Neoxus30- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a mistake)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Actually, since e(2pi + pi/2i) = i [and so on], ii has infinitely many values

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right, I only wrote down the principle value

[–]tito_chustas 17 points18 points  (0 children)

π/2 is good, but is better τ/4 😴🤫

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah, the good ol' "i to the i is about a fifth"

[–]dopamemento 27 points28 points  (0 children)

No. more like 'exp(90i)' Q

[–]NicoTorres1712 7 points8 points  (0 children)

e{(90+π/2)i} Q

[–]SaltyHawkk 61 points62 points  (4 children)

cos and sin should not be italicized

[–]Quintary 54 points55 points  (3 children)

They typed cos instead of \cos

[–]Traditional-Idea-39 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Looks like someone didn’t learn their LaTeX properly…

[–]milg4ruComplex[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

aw shit, i forgot :(

[–]Donghoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TIL

[–]Marus1 160 points161 points  (67 children)

Anybody who can tell me what would be wrong about this? (Serious question)

[–]harelsusername 495 points496 points  (56 children)

They're using degrees instead of radians

[–]Gilom 10 points11 points  (0 children)

just write then pi/2 instead, and the formula is fine?

[–]Marus1 47 points48 points  (54 children)

... still can't see what's wrong ...

[–]harelsusername 236 points237 points  (51 children)

exp(0.5πi) is i whereas exp(90i) isn't

[–]LeTeddyDeReddit 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Cos(90 rad) isn't 0.

e90i isn't cos(90°)+isin(90°).

In the meme, they change from rad to deg between lines.

[–]Constant-Parsley3609 1 point2 points  (0 children)

π/2 is not the same as 90. These are different numbers.

π/2 RADIANS = 90 DEGREES

e{X i} treats X as radians. That's how it is defined.

[–]BRH0208 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trying to answer, units of degrees and math don’t really cooperate. While you can get away with degrees in some cases, in many cases you have to convert. The problem given we end with e90 degrees * i = i. This is geometrically “rotate 90 degrees off of the number line” which of course lands at i. However: if you were to put e90 * i you wouldn’t get this, the degrees have to be removed with before you can do anything useful. Radians don’t have this problem. 2pi radians is just 2pi so you can do math with radians that you can’t do with degrees

[–]Professional-Bug 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I hate this so much

[–]awesomeaxolotls 24 points25 points  (9 children)

why are you using degrees?

[–]EverestkidReal 4 points5 points  (8 children)

because they're the superior unit of angle measure

[–]matt__222 3 points4 points  (0 children)

go ahead and log off for me

[–]sat03 0 points1 point  (6 children)

But Euler’s Identity only applies to radians

[–]EverestkidReal 4 points5 points  (5 children)

angles are angles, bro; just a difference of unit. euler's identity is applicable to degrees with some adjustments

degrees = radians * pi / 180

rearrange

radians = degrees * 180 / pi

therefore

eix*180/pi = cos(x*180/pi) + i*sin(x*180/pi)

is euler's identity for x in degrees

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Ok but who wants to use eix\180/pi) = cos(x*180/pi) + i*sin(x*180/pi) when you could just use radians and use eiz = cos(z) + i sin(z), which is valid for all complex numbers?

Also, the derivative of sin(x*180/pi) satisfies the differential equation

x'' = -(180/pi)^2 x

which is ugly and arbitrary. If use radians, you have that sin(x) satisfies

x'' = -x

which is neat and intuitive.

Even worse, the taylor series for sin(x*180/pi) is ugly and has tons of unnecessary constants, and doesn't naturally pop up anywhere in math like sin(x) does.

If you want to use degrees in mathematics, you end up with a mess of ugly terms and constants. Measurements in degrees are artificial and arbitrary. Measurements in radians are natural and mathematically elegant. The number pi is ubiquitous in mathematics, but degrees are not.

[–]EverestkidReal 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Turns out that Euler's Formula is applicable if you use degrees, so long as you use degrees everywhere. For instance:

exp(i*5pi/18) = cos(5pi/18) + i*sin(5pi/18) ~ 0.64279 + i*0.76604 ~ cos(50°) + i*sin(50°) = exp(i*50°)

Which, y'know, makes sense since 5pi/18 radians = 50 degrees.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

sin(50°)

this is not the real sine function, it's a modified sine function. What you're saying is we can use this modified sine function

sin_D(x) = sin(x°) = sin(180x/pi)

When you use degrees in your calculations, you're actually using this new function. Eg, sin_D(45) = sqrt(2)/2. And my whole point is that this modified sin_D(x) function, which measures angles in degrees, does not behave nearly as nicely as the sin(x) function, which measures angles in radians. Sure you can use sin_D(x) wherever you use sin(x). But the resulting equations are actually messier, uglier, and riddled with constants you dont need. Like I said above, sin_D(x) satisfies the equation

x'' = -(180/pi)^2 x

which is not desirable because we don't want the extra constants. That's why we use radians.

[–]EverestkidReal 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Jeez, and they say engineers are lazy...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not an issue of being lazy... it's an issue of what is intrinsically most important and ubiquitous in mathematics. You are never, ever going to come across some limit or formula in math where the answer is sin_D(x). sin(x), on the other hand, shows up everywhere. What is so special about the number 180 that justifies putting it in equations? Just so you can use degrees? That's stupid.

[–]KrozJr_UK 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This took me embarrassingly long to figure out.

[–]GamamJ44 6 points7 points  (1 child)

When you forget to switch your calulator…

[–]sat03 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Happened with me in high school. I took further/ advanced Maths so it was even more embarrassing.

[–]Orangutanion 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bruh that SMG4 Mario always turns up in the strangest places

[–]jharismaiden 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Then take logs on both sides to get 90i = log(i), which implies log = 90.

[–]sanpunkanmatteyaru 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Missing degree symbol = funny? I don't get it. What is the joke?

[–]ei283Transcendental 4 points5 points  (0 children)

° = π/180

[–]PrunestandOrdinal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

low hanging meme

[–]maxler5795 1 point2 points  (0 children)

r/unexpectedsmg4

I swear to god if this an actual subrredit...

[–]SaltyAFbae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well i guess u could say 90= log

[–]Mifletzet_Mayim 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Glad to see everyone else is also confused

[–]fedj99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who invented degrees

[–]itsyaboinonameImaginary -1 points0 points  (0 children)

am i missing an error?

[–]JoonasD6 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

... and? What are we supposed to see here? Expressions simplifying to other expressions?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My eyes hurt...

[–]SuuugarIsCoool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

e90i = 1 + 90i

[–]Lumpy-Fortune-8065 0 points1 point  (0 children)

-0.448+0.894𝕚

[–]nzg42Imaginary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so (pi/2)*i=ln(i)