They weren't spikes. Just because they pierced his body doesn't make them hemalurgic spikes. Ruin can't talk to anyone pierced by metal, he can talk to people with hemalurgic spikes. TLR's bracers hadn't been used to kill people
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What was Pattern remembering?
every single time Pattern refers to himself or any other "pattern", he could just as easily be discussing another Cryptic.
That doesn't really make sense to me because although in Alethi they call each other Pattern, that's just a language thing. They do have a sense of self and individuality; they're not a hivemind.
So when Shallan asks "what's the last thing you remember" he wouldn't answer what another Cryptic remembers
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What was Pattern remembering?
Later in the book he should figure out the difference and could have corrected the record, but by that point he's also seen how much forcing her to remember hurts her, so he stops pushing.
OK now I understand your point. Thanks
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What was Pattern remembering?
all Cryptics call each other "Pattern" in human language.
Sorry, I don't understand the relevance of this comment.
I think Pattern was part of Testament's team and they were observing Testament's bond during her time with Shallan. Pattern remembers what happened to Testament
Interesting idea. Then when she asked what he remembered he said the last time he remembered seeing Shallan.
Those teams of Cryptics though seem to leave once one is bonded. I don't recall Shallan seeing them in her drawings anymore after drawing out Pattern for the first time.
It's interesting though because I'd figure that they'd stay around and observe her, or go and bond other people. Seems like they didn't do either
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What was Pattern remembering?
Because he frames it as his own first memory
Right but if you're already saying that he was sent there to tell her that, he wouldn't frame it as someone else's memory, would he?
one of the people that had a spike was The Lord Ruler himself
No he didn't.
But he could hear Ruin regardless because of their Connection
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What was Pattern remembering?
confused "experience I'm supposed to remind her of" with "experience I had".
Why makes you say this?
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What was Pattern remembering?
He had just made the traumatizing journey from the cognitive realm a few hours ago. If Syl is any indication, it could take months before regaining your memories. We also see this in the way his personality develops over the books.
Now I do see a difference between Syl and Pattern since Shallan had already sworn the second ideal, the transfer may have been less traumatic on Pattern, or maybe he regained his memories faster than Syl because of his Connection to the physical realm, but it had still only been a few hours.
All this to say, it seems somewhat unlikely to me that he remembered his mission right after arriving. But maybe 🤷🏼♂️