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[–]kimdoan257 9349 points9350 points  (1213 children)

I think people wanted to crossplay with Xbox players and not PC players.

[–]uberc4 3057 points3058 points  (709 children)

I hope they bring that option in to where consoles can crossplay only.

[–]Abradolf1948 1718 points1719 points  (624 children)

Yeah my buddies play on Xbox but most of us have ps4, would love to play with them without having to deal with PC players. I don't even experience cheaters, just people with keyboard and mouse that are significantly more accurate than I am.

[–]Bobrounds 129 points130 points  (37 children)

They have to right! What is wrong with people that cheat, whats the fookin point. Absolute horrible prats.

[–]Off-ice 10 points11 points  (7 children)

I'd never cheat in multiplayer, it wrecks the game for everyone and takes the satisfaction out of it. But some single player games are much more fun with cheats or mods.

[–]lourenslokiKransZa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That would be excellent.

[–]Dark_Tsar_Chasm 688 points689 points  (194 children)

Yeah no shit we wanted that.

Who in his right mind would wanna play controller v mouse+keyboard?

[–]n-d-a 86 points87 points  (33 children)

An option with what platforms you share with would be amazing.

[–]hadenklw 50 points51 points  (32 children)

Or, since consoles (Xbox at least, not aware of the PS4 situation) are starting to support M/KB, have an option to filter off of player input. CoD tracks it and you can see it in the lobby for christ sake, just let me matchmake with other controller players, regardless of platform.

[–]Subudrew 35 points36 points  (19 children)

Rather just do consoles. Being able to adjust your fov on pc is a huge issue. For example if a console player and a pc player are looking at the same angle the pc player could see the console player but not the other way around. That's a huge competitive problem. Fov is a bigger deal than aim assist is change my mind.

[–]gastro_gnome 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I’ve been shot by snipers not using thermal shooting through multiple trees. Spectated then after and seen them shoot through walls before players appeared and without uav on.

[–]whomad1215 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's called a wall hack.

It's cheating

They probably have an aimbot with it too, track people perfectly through the wall, shoot as soon as they're visible

[–]GenkiElite 65 points66 points  (11 children)

I don't mind playing against PC players, I just don't want to play against hackers and cheaters. If only it had a reporting system like csgo

[–]LotharLandru 5 points6 points  (0 children)

PC player here. I want to play with console players and without cheaters and hackers too. I want crossplay to be the norm so more friends can play the same games together

[–]oryes 136 points137 points  (121 children)

Isn't it just easier with mouse and keyboard too?

[–]DevsiKMr_Bluntzzz 282 points283 points  (96 children)

100% easier to aim with a mouse.

[–]apittsburghoriginal 17 points18 points  (6 children)

It’s not just the aim, but the response time getting clipped from behind.

[–]doobiedoobuahbuah 97 points98 points  (35 children)

You got people like me that suck ass with m+kb

[–]SeasonalGent 3 points4 points  (0 children)

this is literally what's been flooding r/modernwarfare and r/warzone for so long now

we just want the ability to choose between the two

[–]GengarXIX 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I don’t want to play against anybody using a mouse and keyboard

[–]i3order 1126 points1127 points  (109 children)

I intentionally disabled crossplay........SO STOP FUCKING ASKING ME IF I WANT TO ENABLE CROSSPLAY DAMNIT!!!!

[–][deleted] 74 points75 points  (2 children)

Every fucking round, twice is asks me. It's fucking BS. It feels like getting pop up ads back in the day.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It also pisses me off that the default answer is always to enable it. I already said a million times NO fucking crossplay - Idiot decision.

[–]CannotDenyNorConfirm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The session will load even if you don't press yes nor no. I do press no just so it fucks off but you don't need to press anything, the game will still load.

[–]Pieszczoch77 264 points265 points  (96 children)

Yea, that shit is annoying as fuck... no, thank you, i dont want to play on my dualshock against m/k players. Fuckin morons...

[–]punisherx2012 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It doesn't matter if you disable. There's still PC shitheads who use workarounds to get in the lobby. It's apparent when they're aggressively using the text chat throughout the entire game.

[–]Baelthor_Septus 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Well, on xbox in warzone mode you can't even disable l. It's fucking forced...

[–]labatomi 1394 points1395 points  (182 children)

I turned it off and after playing for weeks I finally started winning matches. Not saying people were cheating it’s just a pain being matched up with mouse and keyboard players.

[–]__BabyGroot__ 294 points295 points  (12 children)

I did the same same it was just getting so frustrating.

[–]DigiQuip 55 points56 points  (4 children)

I can’t get a single decent lobby lag wise when I have it turned off. Worse yet, the first few days after launched before everyone got stuck at home it ran so smoothly and felt amazing to play. Now it’s just a mess. I have 7 wins and all came in the first week.

[–]DestroyYesterday 66 points67 points  (8 children)

How’d you even find a match? I did console only and waited 10mins and never got matched into a game

[–]labatomi 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I usually play with one of my friends so we’re always stuck looking for a third. It takes a couple of mins but it ain’t too bad.

[–]-Wavy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When did you play? I had it turned it off today and found full lobbies in 2-5 minutes.

[–]the_lost_carrot 60 points61 points  (37 children)

I'm a PC player that plays with my friends who are console players. It isn't fair.

I know who is a console player I'm playing against because of movement. Console players utilize aggressive movement strategies to avoid other aim. I just pull my mouse down slightly.

The last game I played I had 12 kills while my teammate had 4. The other two on the quad has 2 each.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (23 children)

I've been in lobbies full of console players and had a play of the game where I shot a guy in front of me, heard someone behind me, flicked backwards and killed him, then did another 180 flick and killed another guy behind me, and the whole lobby accused me of cheating

I only play with crossplay on because it's hard to find a hardcore match without it. I actually do way worse against console players because I'm used to all PC lobbies where everyone is sprinting around and it's fast paced; I've found that console players tend to play a slower game and hold angles more often than PC.

[–]Joe_Snuffy 27 points28 points  (15 children)

Yeah, I’ve seen a few people post videos of “PC cheating” and it just looks like normal PC game play to me.

I think the issue is that a lot of console players don’t necessarily understand how PC allows you to play “differently” or more dynamically (struggling to find the right word). I’ve seen some gameplay videos of someone supposedly cheating but the gameplay looked no different than anything you’d see in something like PUBG.

[–]Hundkexx 34 points35 points  (14 children)

Well to be fair. KB+Mouse is so vastly superior to controllers that it's going to look like obvious cheating to players who have never experienced playing with a KB+Mouse at 120+ FPS. It's also quite stupid for the developers to even add crossplay between PC and Consoles on a FPS shooter, especially one that rewards high reflexes and accurate aiming.

[–]TheBufferPiecessjgoku78966 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm not gonna say it's stupid that it exists, but it's stupid that it's on by default

I play on PC with my friends on console, I should not be matched with anyone with controllers except for my friends (and other pc/console parties). They should never be matched with PC otherwise, it's just not fair for them.

[–]myyummyass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It just depends. I play gunfight a lot on PS4 and me and my console buddy always beat the shit out of PC players. Mouse and keyboard has a way higher ceiling for skill but most people aren’t so good with it that it matters. Here and there I’ll run into a PC player who wrecks me but that’s not often.

[–]sankers23 92 points93 points  (65 children)

Probably started winning because even without the cheating a keyboard and mouse wipes the floor with controller.

[–]labatomi 100 points101 points  (21 children)

Yea that was my point.

[–][deleted] 107 points108 points  (20 children)

Yea but a pc player gets an itch to say that kb&m is better than controller every 30 minutes and he just needed to scratch it.

[–]chriscrowder 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I prefer a controller for certain games, generally 3rd person like the arkham or the assassin's creed games.

[–]buds4hugsSneakyZebras[🍰] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Reddit Law #12: The main point of a comment will be repeated by someone says in a reply

[–]geomatiq 889 points890 points  (32 children)

Yes i wanna crossplay with my xbox cousins only.

[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (20 children)

Saaame, but with me it’s the other way around. I ran into too many aimbots in TDM dropshotting while hitting nothing but headshots it actually pissed me off, high levels with no ban it’s ridiculous.

[–]Im2oldForthisShitt 57 points58 points  (0 children)

The console bros gotta stick together.

[–]MrD_Rhino 18 points19 points  (9 children)

Mouse and keyboard is a problem for console users on battlefield too. Wish Dice had the guts to cut them off but alas

[–]differentgiantco 12 points13 points  (7 children)

mouse and keyboard are so vastly superior I never understood why console would want to play against PC even if there wasn't cheaters.

[–]madmix27 453 points454 points  (29 children)

crossplay is good for when you want to play with your friends who own different system regardless if there are cheaters or not. If you are playing on your own, I would always suggest to turn that off unless you are playing an old game and there is not enough people on your system.

[–]jaw305 65 points66 points  (22 children)

Old crossplay games?

[–]SaintAustin 18 points19 points  (16 children)

I can't remember any other crossplay games older than 2016 so I'm not sure what he is talking about.

[–]KatalDT 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Shadowrun ~2007 had Xbox 360 and PC crossplay

FFXI had PS2/PC crossplay before that but that's an MMO so a little different

[–]Semifreak 83 points84 points  (5 children)

The annoying thing is it the game keeps asking you every time if you want to turn on cross play. Every. SIngle. Time! Like, get a hint already!

[–]Shwalz 73 points74 points  (14 children)

I’m just glad we have the option to turn it off. Not having that ability in fortnite makes the game miserable as a console player, not to mention the slew of other disadvantages we’d forced to deal with.

[–]ILikeSugarCookies 43 points44 points  (7 children)

Oh it’s way worse in Fortnite. The building element just amplified that by 10. A keyboard and mouse is an inherent advantage in every shooter, but doubly so in Fortnite.

At least Epic’s anti-cheat isn’t god awful though, I’ve run into way fewer cheaters in Fortnite than I have on Warzone.

[–]somedayydelivery 370 points371 points  (108 children)

Bro, Igot lasered by an mp7 in ground war by this PC player from like 400 meters away. I watched the kill cam and the guy had aimbot on. He killed this other dude and then immediately turned around and killed me. No recoil, no shots missed, all headshots. Like what the actual fuck. It might have been like 250 meters but it was an externally long shot for an SMG with no stock and a long barrel. 10/10 played against a aimbotter

[–]apittsburghoriginal 99 points100 points  (7 children)

Unfortunately that shit is still prevalent. I haven’t run into it too recently but last weekend my solo matches were littered with that bullshit.

[–]somedayydelivery 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s so dumb, I’d say I’m about the average casual player, good some days, bad others, but I’ve done some impressive lasering from hella far but what he did was virtually not possible and I think anyone who would be able to see it would agree. But I feel for you. There are too many cheaters in such a good game that ruin it for a lot of other people.

[–]omegaweaponzero 47 points48 points  (40 children)

I don't understand how that's even fun. Is it because they're making other players have a bad experience? Because if you're constantly winning with absolutely zero skill there's no way that doesn't get old fast.

[–]KOM 55 points56 points  (11 children)

For some reason it seems cheating in general has been a topic I keep seeing these last couple of weeks. The upvoted consensus is that it gives poor basement-dwelling trolls a few minutes of feeling important in their miserable lives. The heavily downvoted answers from admitted cheaters is that it's not about the game or "fun", but in finding amusement by making people angry. I suppose those aren't mutually exclusive, and I sure as hell don't know what it means for people that enjoy making other people upset... but there you go.

[–]the_rizzler 16 points17 points  (8 children)

I've also seen comments that in other cultures, it's just a method of winning (specifically China, Russia) where playing isn't the goal but being top of the leader board. These are the game equivalent to performance enhancers. I'm not sure if it's true or accurate, either way it's still fucking dumb.

[–]Zanozira 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I watched the documentary Icarus wherein they provide proof of Russian Olympic doping. There was this part where the Russian athletes were crying because they were told they might not get to compete, and I was thinking, "But you know you're cheating! You know you're not competing fairly, how are you taking any pride in it?"

Then the Russian doping administrator (basically) says later something about, "We are top-grade cheats, we are the best at cheating," and it really made me realize that in their culture, the cheating is just part of the game. Winning through cheating is no less valid to them. To them winning means doing everything in your power, they don't feel shame for cheating but rather would consider it shameful and weak to not cheat out of some sense of moral righteousness.

Edit: pressed enter too soon

[–]VaporWario 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I studied Russian language in college for a minor and one day after a test the teacher was like, “you American students are so funny. None of you cheat. When I leave the room during a test you all have your text books and notes right there, but you don’t look at them.” She explained to us that in in Russia it’s considered a good thing to be able to cheat and get away with it - it’s considered skillful. If you get caught you get in trouble, same as in the US, but it’s almost expected that everyone will cheat in order to as well as possible.

[–]Szarak199 13 points14 points  (20 children)

have you seen the MW subreddit? everyone is against SBMM because they want to get matched against bad people and drop 50 kills. No one cares about the other players' experiences, they just want lots of kills, for some people cheating is the way to do it

[–]mister_marker 11 points12 points  (1 child)

It's exactly the same in Destiny. If Bungie favors SBMM, all the streamers start whining that their matches are difficult. They claim that they "just want to relax, have a good time, and not have to play sweaty matches". But we all know that translates into wanting to go in match after match and stomp players that aren't as good.

[–]VideoGameDana 9 points10 points  (12 children)

I've been seeing a lot of wall hackers. Watching a killcam and the person will be running around like normal but then suddenly stop close to a corner. They aim at the corner and as soon as I show up boom headshot. I run cold-blooded and ghost so there's no way that shit was legit.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Do you play with headphones? Sound spotting changes everything.

[–]somedayydelivery 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bro I’ve run into that a lot as wellllll

[–]converter-bot 25 points26 points  (6 children)

400 meters is 437.45 yards

[–]Anishinaabe651 179 points180 points  (59 children)

Sad, but not surprising at all.

[–]Houston_Centerraempty-p5flair 91 points92 points  (20 children)

People would ask how anyone could be against cross-play, and I would always give this as the number one reason. I'm not at all surprised this is happening and I won't be playing any multiplayer game where turning it off isn't an option

[–]FlabbySatchel 30 points31 points  (37 children)

I almost never come across cheaters in CoD on PC, I'm genuinely surprised. There's loads in PUBG, and I do see them in most FPS games, but they're not rife IMO

It's only spoiled PUBG for me, personally

[–]Mr_Oujamaflip 22 points23 points  (30 children)

The sheer volume of players compared to cheaters makes the whole thing somewhat overblown. You might get the occasional game ruined by a cheater but it's just not a common occurrence.

I think most of this is people getting angry when they get killed and this will be particularly bad when doing console against PC because a mouse can be so much faster to turn and aim.

[–]SangiMTL 125 points126 points  (23 children)

I’ll never understand why people do this shit. I just can’t wrap my mind around someone who gets satisfaction from cheating

[–]organizim 79 points80 points  (8 children)

The satisfaction does not come from cheating. It comes from winning and unlocking whatever is behind winning. It’s lazy.

[–]RomeKnow 66 points67 points  (27 children)

Some dude on twitch, PC streamers, got mad at me for telling people how to turn off crossplay on PS4. I was confused at first but now I get it.... Screws up the PC servers more by upping the ratio of hackers to legit.

[–]Deathly_rYaN 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I kinda want to see their reaction now, lol.

[–]vdek 49 points50 points  (20 children)

They also want more easy kills.

[–]KCVGaming 14 points15 points  (17 children)

No it just sucks because without cross play pc servers usually end up dead pretty fast compared to consoles

[–]iinhalesaltdaily 36 points37 points  (17 children)

How do I turn that off?

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (16 children)

Push options go to account selection you will see an option for cross play turn it off before you begin matchmaking but beware it's harder to find games in war zone with it off but you can find regular multiplayer matches fine

[–]imtherealdazza 536 points537 points  (161 children)

This is one of many reasons why crossplay should just be limited between Xbox and PS

[–]stabbitystyleStabbity_Style 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Eh, let us have the option if we wanna do it. I've been having a great time playing it with my friend who has an Xbox but no PC. Normally we just don't play games together, so this has been a lot of fun.

[–]PM_UR_THROWAWAY_PLZ 239 points240 points  (74 children)

Cross play should only be console to console and if someone wants to use KBM on console, they get put in pc lobbies.

[–]livevil999livevil999 35 points36 points  (5 children)

No I have friends on PC and I’d like the option of playing with them. It’s about options. Maybe the default should be console only crossplay but there should be options for everything. No reason not to slow people to play with whoever they choose.

[–]buddamus 56 points57 points  (41 children)

Controller will always have a disadvantage against a mouse

[–]KrAzyDrummer 69 points70 points  (15 children)

This is about cheaters, not controller vs mouse. The cheaters are PC players.

But yes, agreed. Mouse is better for FPS.

[–]mcgeezacks 23 points24 points  (5 children)

In shooters not in other genre's. Driving and flying the analog sticks are way better.

[–]atwitchyfairy 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Also third person games with free range of movement like dark souls. That is hell on kb&m.

[–]blackjesushiphop 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I have been turning off cross play since day one because I knew this would be an issue.

Literally everyone did. No one is surprised by this.

[–][deleted] 144 points145 points  (24 children)

Crossplay in FPS games with PC gamers is a piss poor idea. It should have been Crossplay for ps4 and xbox only when it comes to FPS games.

[–]xEndymionS 28 points29 points  (6 children)

Its a pain in any game. In Tekken 7 theres people who use macros to do hard inputs with 1 key, or automatically break any grab. And Im sure other genres have their issues

[–]SpiderAlex 18 points19 points  (2 children)

As a fighting game player. That's some actual weak shit. Maybe I'm old school but execution is part of the mental game.

Like I get it. The logic flows "Yo I can't do Electrics/taunt jet-upper/wall carry combos/tech" therefore "I cant play properly." But like if you use a macro that's still not being able to play properly. It still misses the point.

Random Side tangent/rant. But this is what really gets to me about fg's trying be Esports while also trying to be more and more accessible. Like if we really trying to be taken serious. Guess what every fucking sport has. EXECUTION. Crossing someone up is execution, side stepping and juking a defender, running a route, working on your off the line speed. Etc. All execution. We have a dude that played SF4 with his mouth. Accessibility isn't an issue at this point. Tbf Tekken simplified itself in better ways then most but yeah

[–]DestroyYesterday 24 points25 points  (7 children)

I stopped playing this seriously because my opponents could flick and aim so much better than I could on PS4, I had no time to react, plus I’m dealing with way more recoil than they are

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Flicking is much easier and recoil is more easily managed with a mouse.

Not saying you didn't encounter any cheats, but the advantage of KB/M for good players is unreal.

Honestly, I wouldn't have crossplay on if I played on a console, unless I was specifically playing with a friend on a different platform.

[–]Veganblade 55 points56 points  (36 children)

Why tf wpuld you wanna play controller vs mouse keyboard

[–]Match0311 27 points28 points  (71 children)

This wouldn't be as much of an issue if the game had a half decent anti cheat and a region lock.

Sadly it's another game on the long list of multiplayer games ruined by rampant cheating.

[–]Nepocoliptic 15 points16 points  (2 children)

PC player here. I love cross play because the call of duty turnout on PC is usually quite low, so it's nice to have a much larger playerbase. But I don't blame you for not wanting cross play between pc and consoles. If I was on console, I probably wouldn't either.

[–]MattywXc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Since day one

[–]STRIKERx_O 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Can PC players turn off PC players to escape cheaters!?

[–]Killcycle1989 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Yeah since I encountered a cheater I've had crossplay off.

I feel bad for xbox players since they can't turn off crossplay apparently? Wtf

[–]JumpForWaffles 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Just can't for warzone. I keep it off for MP

[–]BigLittleTipJr 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Isn't playing with PC players unfair? It's way easier to aim with mouse than a joystick.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Idc about playing against someone using mouse and keyboard but when the cheating is obvious ya i shut that shit off. I don’t understand how you feel special winning multiplayer games when you cheat

[–]apittsburghoriginal 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I play it on Xbox but my main concern is that you CANNOT turn off crossplay for BR Solos (unless they just changed that)

[–]jeikjeik99 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm gonna turn it off the next time I play, tired of getting lazerbeamed by dudes with a FALs from 500 meters

[–]L4DN3S 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've had crossplay off since day 1

[–]kodolen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I turn off crossplay to escape PC players

[–]CheddHeadJettFueled 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As usual, PC Players ruin everything. Whether intentionally or not.

[–]getonwithsports 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am also one of these players and now enjoying playing COD: Warzone even more with playing against fair players almost all the time. Cheaters in Call of Duty: Warzone have made the game nigh unplayable. It really sucks when you die within a minute of joining the game so its a good idea to not involve in crossplay in order to stay away from the cheaters.

[–]BugHunt223 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Sony could really capitalize on having a policy of “no 3rd party will be allowed to force crossplay against PC“. May take the general public a while to catch on to the fact that most publishers don’t care about console to console crossplay but making sure they can score mtx whales on PC using console players as bait. Just make it optional

[–]WabbitCZEN 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Shocker.

[–]tinytom08 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Why does it put PC players into the mix anyway? I'm sorry but as a PC only player, it seems like a dumb fucking idea.

Sure, give pc / console players crossplay IF the console player queues with a PC player and just throw them into the pc games. Don't just automatically put PC players in with the console players.

It should be a one way crossplay system, not two way.

[–]Sen7ryGun 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I'm fairly sure the primary reason they want PC players in with the console mix is money. The console market is fucking massive compared to the PC base. The PC base typically has more savvy gamers with a lot more options to chase as well so the minute the game experience becomes sub-optimal in terms of match making, population, mechanics, a shitty patch or whatever the PC crowd will just bail and play something else, lots of which is free. Consoles have a far more captive audience and less to choose from in terms of solid FPS titles so they get a more stable gameplay experience for longer than the PC crowd does. Piling the PC crowd in with the consoles likely extends the life of the game for the PC players, which translates to more money for the publisher in the long run.

It's hard to reconcile in terms of competitive ability though. KBM is more or less the undisputed king of controls for shooters and the only way to make consoles competitive is to introduce a very heavy level of aim assist/auto snap for headshots. Even then it's a somewhat situational advantage as PC players can pull accurate high speed quadrant checks and 180 snap shots incredibly fast compared to console players.

The shit side of it though as highlighted here is the cheaters that creep in with it. PC has cheaters while consoles typically don't. I'm sure there are outside cases in terms of console cheaters, but by and large they're just not there. Between the occasional actual cheaters and the occasional God tier PC player that might end up in match making, I could see how the console peeps would get the shits with PC players fast.

[–]lol_nope_nicetry 67 points68 points  (96 children)

Aaaaaand that's why i don't play on PC. Cheaters are the fucking worst. We've been crying to Sony to add the crossplay feature and now that we have it people are turning it off because of those fuck heads.

[–]Aral_Fayle 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Easiest way to see if a game has a lot of cheaters is to check if it’s free to play. When CSGO and Destiny went F2P, I noticed infinitely more cheaters. CSGO sort of offset this with Prime, but for games like R6 I run into 1/50 of the cheaters I do, and if I do run into a cheater, usually the next day I end up getting a rank adjustment back if it was ranked.

[–]_DoYourOwnResearch_ 26 points27 points  (5 children)

All of this used to be handled by players running servers ourselves.

MW2 shit right in PC players mouths with the devs refusing to support the old server browser standard.

A lot of noise was made, profits still soared, and thus the old days were gone for good.

We used to ban cheaters ourselves. We used to have communities built around servers. We used to edit out annoying maps, and bad gameplay elements.

We used to have control.

Now we get console ports filled with hackers.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

This is very rare for FPS games on PC when the company has a compitent anti cheat.

Most of these players are probably just getting lasered by PC players who aren’t cheating

[–]royalewithcheese4272 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you want to cross play with friends would be cool To allow invite only cross play option, that way you limit cheaters and still play with your pc friends

[–]Jorgeoliv 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Ya ... And it's annoying that the game ask all the time if we want crossplay disabled ... Yeah, cod for the 100th I DON'T WANNA CROSSPLAY ENABLED!

[–]royboom 3 points4 points  (12 children)

Crossplay with PC players is unfair anyway, its so much easier to aim on PC

[–]Opt_mind 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep. I only ever get those ridiculous snipes as I’m jumping or in the air when I’m on cross play, I turned that shit off

[–]Need_more_memez2LegoDysten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does it even matter if they ban them? I mean it’s a free game, just use another account.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Literally the first thing I did when I tried warzone

[–]nolimitNola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't know you can turn off cross-play.... Thank God cause I've ran across a lot of cheaters

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol and we turned it off to get away from aimbots.

[–]AYCSTRETCH 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m on PS4 and I play with friends from Xbox and PC. I normally don’t like to play against PC players in most games bc of their advantage but I actually hold up pretty well against them in COD

But unfortunately I’ve died to 3 cheaters in the past 2 days in Warzone and it’s been extremely frustrating when you work so hard only to get team wiped by someone with an MP5 across the map hitting nothing but headshots :/

I just don’t understand how anyone can have fun like this when any cheater who gets banned just creates new accounts to play Warzone since it’s free to play.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Holy SHIT that site is cancer. No less than 5 autoplaying videos right next to each other. Who the fuck does that?

[–]iLL-Egal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok. So you can disable cross play in the Xbox settings.

This is in the Xbox counsel settings . Not modern warfare settings.

Follow the words.

Settings - Account - Privacy & Online Safety - Xbox live Privacy - View Details and Customize - Communication and Multiplayer - You can play with people outside of Xbox live - Block.

I don’t think enough people are doing this on Xbox. Almost impossible to find a match.

[–]AnakinSkydiver 2 points3 points  (2 children)

why would ANYONE on console wanna play against PC users regardless of cheating? the precision advantage of a mouse is an undisputed fact.

[–]tedbakerbracelet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not being able to play Ground War or War Zone without turning on crossplay was a bit retarded to me. X box <-> PS I understand of course. But no PC. I come from PC upto BF4. I know the difference. And we are talking about a game that is more of an arcade type shooting. So when even a moderately skilled keyboard player shooting a gun with arcade-like accuracy... oh no i don't know how I will survive with my ps controller lol

[–]YD099 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good. As much as cross play shortens wait time, pc players can aim faster than controllers

[–]jake93s 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Even as a pc player I think it was dumb of them to allow crossplay between console and pc. Not just for the hacking problem but it's unfair to boot, someone playing with a mouse will always have a extreme advantage over someone using a controller. Also it's sad that they can't stop hackers, it's 2020... Shows a lack of care on their part to not to stop these exploits.

[–]DarthPlagueisTragedy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was the huge experiment. It’s becoming crystal clear that everyone should have a choice who they crossplay with. MW has become a cesspool of cheating in certain modes and it’s becoming increasingly clear that IW has little or no clue how to deal or respond. For future games the only way crossplay works is for severe and robust cheat detection for PC and complete optional crossplay between console to console and console to PC.

[–]Failed_Mathematician 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Even disregarding hackers, PC players have an advantage when it comes to aiming with a mouse and also the potentially much higher fps.

[–]CaptainBacon1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Makes sense to me

[–]Nickillaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As as PS and Xbox player I want to play with other consoles, not the pc players with their hacks, aimbots and trainers.

[–]PeetaPlays 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why would any console player want to play against PC players with better controls and framerates? Not even counting the cheaters, that's a ridiculous idea in a game like this.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People are straight up using aim bots, aim assist, hacks to reload faster, and take more damage. This shit is annoying, activision should of seen this coming. In almost every case NOBODY wants to crossplay with PC only xbox, ps4, or the switch .

[–]DelgadoTheRaat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There needs to be a keyboard/mouse and controller only option.

I quit playing because most shit requires cross play

[–]akpatel_07Enter PSN ID 2 points3 points  (1 child)

PC players: But console players have AiM aSsIst which is basically aIMboT

[–]Fox_Orange 2 points3 points  (0 children)

...yea if you could stop asking us to enable crossplay every second during matchmaking that would be great.

[–]actuallynosorry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who thought it was a good idea to put PC players and console players against each other..?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Almost like everyone knew that pc has had a huge cheating problem for every single cod since forever. Its cuz the devs do literally nothing about it. Also cheating is a ginormous market on pc. Cheating has become a huge issue in every multiplayer game. Mostly because devs do nothing or do the bare minimum like get shitty third part like battleye. The best solution is to use a good third party anti cheat with a custom dev made anti cheat ok top to catch most cheaters.

[–]fg0502 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I turn crossplay off to avoid the over tuned auto aim... Nothing like getting ttk'd from an mp7 at 200m

[–]demoneyesturbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who thought cross play between consoles and pc was a good idea. Cheating aside. Keyboard-mouse VS console controller isn't even a contest.

[–]obglobal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I certainly have