Neat slo-mo view of a deluge system test on the rebuilt Starship launch pad.

Adeldor · 2023-07-29T02:35:18+00:00

Yes. I'm wondering if you meant sentience will precede ASI. As mentioned, I believe AGI will precede sentience.

Adeldor · 2023-07-29T02:23:57+00:00

I'd argue AGI is a precursor to sentience. Did you perhaps mean ASI?

Adeldor · 2023-07-29T02:18:12+00:00

That's a separate subject unrelated to the possibility of inorganic systems exhibiting sentience.

"I hate AIs and the people who create them ..."

When you declare your hatred like this, it seems the conversation is no longer useful. So I'll leave it there with you.

Adeldor · 2023-07-29T02:13:19+00:00

Building something to have sentience is a different proposition to building something that behaves like it has sentience.

As explored by Turing, if the black box response of the system is indistinguishable, then the difference between "have" and "behave like" becomes moot. The mimicry itself would exhibit sentience.

Adeldor · 2023-07-29T02:10:54+00:00

Lmao and here you are pretending that inorganic compounds can have sentience.

What is extraordinary about organic compounds that prevents the emulation of reactions such as neuron transfer functions or synaptic strengths?

Adeldor · 2023-07-29T02:07:40+00:00

Non sequitur. I can't have a conversation with lego.

Adeldor · 2023-07-29T02:05:22+00:00

The apparent certainty of your position regarding sentience is interesting. Two immediate points come to mind:

Define sentience.
What is special about "living things" that cannot be mirrored/emulated?

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T21:30:26+00:00

No. I'm saying it's a click-bait title(!!) It might be the best video on the subject, but so often I find following such results in a waste of time. So I don't bother now. If the discovery is important enough there'll be other reports from less sensational sources.

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T21:25:21+00:00

It discovered a "this"? Not seen one of those.

Not clicking on click-bait links, either.

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T21:22:17+00:00

I recall such a thing happened to the Viking 1 lander. In that case communication was not recovered. Crossing fingers here.

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T19:13:27+00:00

I'd argue using the word "girlfriend" for a chatbot is the issue, and there being such a high demand suggests deep problems abound.

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T19:09:20+00:00

I'm attempting to use your web site, specifically the chat box provided on it (the one with the two preset questions). Is there some additional step or configuration I missed?

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T17:25:06+00:00

Got past that. However now I'm getting the error message below to any statement, even the two preset questions. Is there a training data set that must be loaded?

"Sorry, i don't know answer to this question"

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T17:19:19+00:00

"1.7 million downloads of a16z's Character.AI friendship bots in one week."

Wow. This being so popular says a great deal about "today," much of it troubling.

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T17:16:23+00:00

The chat window provided on this web site isn't working for me. Is there some setup or configuration I must do to try the example? Here's the error message:

"Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'url')"

Adeldor · 2023-07-28T03:56:53+00:00

Here's Pi's response:

Both sentences refer to the same action, but the focus is different. In the first sentence, John is the focus, while in the second sentence, the dog is the focus. 180 characters done!

Adeldor · 2023-07-26T20:20:02+00:00

Moore's law is indeed slowing down - for the dimensions of features on silicon. That says nothing for eg layered stacking and algorithmic improvements, especially when it comes to training. I've every confidence the evolution of such AI systems is in its infancy.

Yes, pre-trained is the key statement (which I emphasized with my 2^nd paragraph), but it doesn't invalidate the identification of Cameron's inaccuracy. FWIW, my name's on a backpropagation neural net patent in the US. I have some insight into how different the system loads are between adjusting weights through backpropagation vs calculating next vectors.

Adeldor · 2023-07-26T20:11:05+00:00

I grant you that's interesting. Thank you.

Still, once again it's indistinct/fuzzy (as you imply). And Occam's Razor suggests there are many more mundane explanations for this before one leaps to alien craft, such as secret military device (it is over Israel, after all) or hoax (what is the credibility of the source).

Adeldor · 2023-07-26T20:02:16+00:00

Maybe I'm naive, but I expected Cameron to be smart enough to understand exponential growth. Besides, he's wrong with his example. A pre-trained LLM can be run on a home PC with decent GPU, giving a "sort of human-like" conversation without consuming megawatts or requiring tons of hardware.

I grant that training does require those sorts of resources. Not being "in the game," I don't blame him too much for confusing the two, although perhaps he could be a little more humble in giving his opinion.

Adeldor · 2023-07-26T19:05:11+00:00

No. After the impact the two bodies were observed still to exist, with the change in Dimorphos' orbital period about Didymos being quite precisely measured.

Adeldor · 2023-07-26T18:44:27+00:00

Then we are back to there being no clear evidence. Just hearsay in a congressional hearing on a subject that has a long history of false claims.

Adeldor · 2023-07-26T18:38:56+00:00

Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.

Not only does the BBC tag title of the link in this post use "UFO," it makes absolutely no difference to the argument regarding clear evidence.

You sound like you have put zero effort into understanding what you're talking about.

You have no idea what effort I've put into this and your slight in lieu of an effective counter - such as tangible evidence or clear, unambiguous images - is noteworthy.

I'll leave it there with you. Have a good day.

Adeldor · 2023-07-26T18:14:57+00:00

No. It reinforces my point. There are no clear images, despite the billions of cameras that have been in the hands of the global populace for years, and no clear images released by any military. Not one.

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