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[–]metler88 582 points583 points  (13 children)

Just realized Alan Tudyk is the marine that has you look at the lights in Halo 3.

[–]Benjii117 266 points267 points  (9 children)

Nathon Fillion is in H3 as well if I remember correctly

[–]metler88 224 points225 points  (5 children)

You do. He's the one that asks Miranda for a rallying point and she answers him insufficiently lol

[–]RedBoxHero 39 points40 points  (0 children)

He also voices an Easter egg character Sgt. Malcom Reynolds as a nod to firefly. You save him in this mission from a brute interrogating him.

[–]Benjii117 125 points126 points  (2 children)

No Miranda I know they're going to war, you don't wanna coordinate this attack? Oh she just left

[–]Bodhran_ 123 points124 points  (0 children)

"To War"

(walks off, badass)

(turns around and walks back down the stairs less than five seconds later, not so badass)

[–]Beyond-ScienceHalo: Reach 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The hilarious thing is that in the lore, by then they've been at war for like 25 years. Good chance that some of the marines in that room weren't even born before the war started. What do you think everybody there has been doing for their entire adult lives, Miranda?

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    [–]StrawBanPan_2537 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    In ODST

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      [–]epsilon025Doesn't Like Halo 2 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      Now I just want an animated series around Alpha-9 running into their voice doppelgangers. Doesn't even need to be canon, it'd just be funny.

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        [–]McClowndHalo 3: ODST 2581 points2582 points  (49 children)

        Bro I can't get sick of Halo 3's and ODST's intro, they are so fucking iconic

        [–]Angsty_Kylo_Ren 551 points552 points  (1 child)

        Yeah this gives me chills every time, I'm a sucker for the soundtracks.

        [–]powerfullatom111Halo: CE 278 points279 points  (1 child)

        HE SAID THE WORD!

        [–]McClowndHalo 3: ODST 99 points100 points  (0 children)

        FUCK, I legit didn't even thought about it

        [–]BoudonjouPlatinum 3 139 points140 points  (8 children)

        Halo 3 be like

        DUN DUN DUN DUNNNN DUN DUN DUN DUNNNNN DAA DA DAA DA DAA DA DDA DAAAAAAAA DUN DUN DUN DUNNNMNNNNN RANDOM SLICK GUITAR SOLO DUN DUN DUN DUNNNNNN DA DAA DA DA DAA DA DA DA DA DA BUNNN BA NA NA NAAAAAA

        Then those mfs were in the middle of making odst And theyre like aight we can live up to expectations absolutely blow this one out of the park

        [–]Aerochromatic 58 points59 points  (0 children)

        Then they they pull a full "Want to see me do it again?" with the absolute Magnum Opus of REACH.

        [–]zinic53000 42 points43 points  (6 children)

        Bungies halo is the ONLY SERIES I can think of that only gets better as the series goes.

        [–]Michael-556 158 points159 points  (10 children)

        I would say that reach also has a good intro, since it spoils the ending for those who didn't play the other halos by showing you noble 6's helmet. It tells you right off the bat that you are doomed and there's nothing you can do

        [–]McClowndHalo 3: ODST 65 points66 points  (2 children)

        YEAH, don't sleep on reach's

        [–]Superman19986 36 points37 points  (5 children)

        It kind of does spoil the end, but I like to think of it as very obvious foreshadowing.

        [–]Michael-556 43 points44 points  (3 children)

        On my first playthrough I didn't even realize it was 6's helmet, so I went in kinda blind. But after Jorge and Kat's deaths I knew it wasn't going to end well

        [–]Superman19986 28 points29 points  (1 child)

        Reach was my first Halo and most of the story went over my head lol. So everything was a surprise to me. The foreshadowing went way over my head.

        Heck, I thought Deliver Hope promo video was what the game was about. But that was actually the Battle of Fumirole and how the OG Noble 6 dies.

        [–]Michael-556 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Reach was my 1st halo too

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              [–]gaussiangal 181 points182 points  (1 child)

              I C O N I C

              [–]0Otakkuu 34 points35 points  (1 child)

              That combat drop quote has stayed in my head since I first played the game

              [–]pessenshett 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              "...And get SHET, for a combat drop..."

              [–]runtimemessHalo 3 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              I need to go play Halo 3 again.

              [–]MyNameIsYhwach 76 points77 points  (10 children)

              ICONIC OMG HE SAID IT!!!!

              [–]McClowndHalo 3: ODST 34 points35 points  (0 children)

              I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN

              [–]mesmerized_by_sirens 26 points27 points  (8 children)

              What is the joke surrounding "iconic"

              [–]Impossible-Lows 42 points43 points  (5 children)

              HiddenXperia said it so much it turned into a meme which he himself has now embraced

              [–]El-Grunto 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Not related to Halo but I remember Ubisoft using the word so frequently a few years ago to describe everything in/about their games that the internet dogpiled on them for it too.

              [–]BoyWonder343 18 points19 points  (1 child)

              More specifically, it's used incorrectly 90% of the time. It doesn't just mean good or your favorite. For something to be Iconic it needs to be widely recognized outside it's medium/franchise and or without context. For instance Mario's hat is an Iconic symbol. My mom would recognize despite not playing games.

              You could argue that Master chiefs Helmet/armor or the main menu music are iconic. Maybe the energy sword as well. Your favorite mission or cutscenes are not iconic.

              [–]Lachyloolaa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              However things can be iconic within certain circles, such as the gaming community. I'd argue that this scene with its combination of music and memorable quotes are definitely something people would remember and attribute to Halo. Keep in mind a lot of people on street probably couldn't tell you who Solid Snake is, but he's a very iconic gaming character.

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                    [–]deadpunkwalkingPlatinum 1 560 points561 points  (14 children)

                    I miss SGM Johnson

                    [–]SnS_ 177 points178 points  (5 children)

                    One of these days you're gonna land on something as stubborn as you

                    [–]SomeDudeWithAnIdea 46 points47 points  (3 children)

                    "Well it doesn't have multi-million dollar armor, now does it Johnson?"

                    [–]StopHatingMeRedditHalo: Reach 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                    "And you can tell THAT to the covenant."

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                      [–]McGriffff 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                      And I don’t do bits and pieces

                      [–]Subli-minal 48 points49 points  (4 children)

                      Him just casually helping a two ton lump of meat and metal up to his feet is a subtle reminder that he’s actually a Spartan.

                      [–]6pt022x10tothe23 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                      a two ton lump of meat and metal

                      Is that how much MC canonically weighs?

                      [–]pantless_vigilante 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                      287 lbs no armor, around 1000 lbs with armor

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                        [–]allonzeeLV 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        The new Spartan training facility in academy is named after him.

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                          [–]Spartan_doge_6 236 points237 points  (7 children)

                          NANO MACHINES SON

                          [–]CrusaD4RHalo 3: ODST 55 points56 points  (4 children)

                          I like the slow return of MGR memes Ive been seeing

                          [–]RabidsouthAfrican 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                          Return? Theyve been pretty consistent for about a year now lol

                          [–]CrusaD4RHalo 3: ODST 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                          I've only been seeing them for the past few months, but either way I'm glad

                          [–]cmmoyer 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                          These are the rules of nature

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                            [–]PM_LADY_TOILET_PICS 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                            COULDA GONE PRO IF I HADNT JOINED THE NAVY

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                              [–]midnitte 312 points313 points  (40 children)

                              You know, I get that Johnson was a SPARTAN-I, but how does the Master Chief not completely break Johnson in this scene?

                              He's pulling himself and the 1000 lbs armor he's wearing up using Johnson's arm...

                              [–]Infiniteblaze6 260 points261 points  (20 children)

                              Well the armor is power armor. It's probably pulling itself up. John grabbing onto Johnson to lift himself up is probably just for show.

                              [–]ThatOneGuy1294 147 points148 points  (18 children)

                              if memory serves, it's kinda a bit of both. The armor quite literally interfaces with your brain, so the thought behind "move my arm to scratch my nose" is no different than moving in the armor. You just do it and the armor responds just like your muscles do.

                              [–]QingLinVos 134 points135 points  (13 children)

                              That was a huge bit in the Fall of Reach book. Just read it.

                              The augmentations the Spartan-II's go through is partially due to how advanced the Mjolnir armor actually is.

                              A regular marine was put into the suit to test how it would work and it basically broke every bone in his body trying to compensate for his movement

                              [–]straga27 71 points72 points  (3 children)

                              Yup. Picture the power armour test pilot from the Justin Hammer video at the start of Iron Man 2. Basically that.

                              [–]trans_lucent2[🍰] 86 points87 points  (1 child)

                              Hey, I’d like to point out that test pilot survived.

                              [–]foo757 28 points29 points  (0 children)

                              Was gonna say. Iron Man 2 would have been a wayyyyyyy different movie if Tony pulled up footage of one of Hammer's suits ripping apart the person piloting it. And a far shorter movie, too.

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                                [–]pantless_vigilante 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                                Was it every bone? I thought I remembered that it was like a bone and it was really bad because the armor would still move your broken bones around as if it weren't broken and it would cause immense pain

                                [–]QingLinVos 28 points29 points  (1 child)

                                I'll check it out, I have the book on hand

                                It's more along the lines of implying that his reaction to the arm breaking results in a cascade effect.

                                Quote - The soldiers arm blurred forward with incredible speed. The Marines stoic expression collapsed in the shock, surprise, and pain as his arm shattered. He convulsed; shuddered and screamed as he jerked in pain. John could hear the sounds of bones breaking. The man's own agony-induced spasms were killing him.

                                [–]pantless_vigilante 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                Fuckin hell man

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                                    [–]Chappiechap 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                    I think there was even a test log where someone in Mjolnir power armour started panicking and the suit just crushed him or something.

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                                        [–]digitalluckONI 49 points50 points  (12 children)

                                        I feel like a lot of the lore gets ignored when it comes to the games. Same thing with Chief uppercutting Atriox and him just shrugging it off like it was nothing.

                                        [–]Pupperlover5 38 points39 points  (6 children)

                                        Canonically the first time chief runs into brutes in the books I believe he was outmatched in strength by a lot

                                        [–]digitalluckONI 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                                        True, I remember seeing all the posts about the Atriox fight in r/halostory but I remember reading that another Spartan did some solid damage to a brute with her strength alone.

                                        It was Naomi in the Kilo-Five trilogy: https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloStory/comments/rgoy0r/about_the_outcome_of_chiefs_fight_in_the_intro/holzxun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

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                                            [–]AzeRaKGG 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            That's EXACTLY what I am asking myself everytime this cutscene shows up :D

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                                              [–]CptJakeHoofness 2479 points2480 points  (272 children)

                                              I have no problem with the armor for the most part, I think the big controversy is more how they explained the armor. With fucking nanobots while he slept in a cryo tube.

                                              [–]James_099Halo 3 1123 points1124 points  (64 children)

                                              I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again: Chief should have started out in his Halo 3 armor, have it damaged and malfunctioning due to being in contact with the Didact, get to Infinity and get his new, upgraded armor there. It would have made sense, and it would have transitioned the player from the Bungie-era armor into the 343-era armor.

                                              [–]PeterJakeson 484 points485 points  (18 children)

                                              It also messed with the whole "aging Spartan" thing they had going with Chief in that game. Like, if you want to highlight that, maybe don't give him armor that resembles the current generation of Spartans, where the tech is up to date?

                                              Him showing up with his out of date Halo 2/3 armor all fucked up from the events of Halo 3 and the intro of Halo 4, would have made miles and miles of complete sense.

                                              [–]The_Man_I_A_Barrel 129 points130 points  (14 children)

                                              Its funny because Chief isn't "aging" at all, he's about 40 at most I think when you take cryosleep into consideration

                                              [–]Some-Gentle-Giant 165 points166 points  (8 children)

                                              Correct, but he is aging in a much less literal sense. He's from a bygone Era, one of the last few Spartans trained from childhood.

                                              Especially the experimental procedures done on Spartan IIs. Something like half the candidates survived them. For spartan IIIs and on they were made safer, more consistent, in exchange for the benefit/power it provided.

                                              Tldr: chief from the fucked up Era of badasses and that contrast is my favorite

                                              [–]disboicito420 64 points65 points  (6 children)

                                              For the later generations, they decided that a much higher number of less-powerful Spartans was better than a handful of nigh demigods that came from abducting and torturing (and killing) children.

                                              [–]StopHatingMeRedditHalo: Reach 52 points53 points  (0 children)

                                              You're right about that.

                                              She may have accidentally saved humanity by doing it but she's no saint for sure.. Yeah, people see Halsey in Reach and go "oh shit! The lady! She put the master chef in the soder!"

                                              You read the books and you go "oh... shit. It's the lady..."

                                              She's not a very nice lady at all. Makes sense that was the standard procedure only for IIs.

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                                                [–]The_Man_I_A_Barrel 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                                                never thought about it that way, i suppose that makes much more sense

                                                [–]Turdfox 25 points26 points  (2 children)

                                                It’s made even more funny by the lore implying that SPARTAN IIs aren’t actually getting less effective with age but the opposite.

                                                [–]NickFolzie 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                                                What's this? I don't remember this part, though it could make sense. Like Asgardians getting more powerful the older they get, the idea that S2 augments could get stronger as they age would be an interesting angle.

                                                [–]5i5ththaccount 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                                Not sure it's just about the augmentations though, the battlefield experience they have is unparalleled and only grows the longer they're active.

                                                [–]pantless_vigilante 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                                                Steve Downes, the person who voices master chief, is 71 now. I hope that mfer lives to be 150 so we can have master chief forever

                                                [–]Diamondrankg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                Not only that but thanks to all the stuff that was done the prime of the S2's lives will last longer

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                                                  [–]Stoly23 230 points231 points  (33 children)

                                                  Unfortunately 343 was incredibly lazy with design changes in Halo 4. Personally I’d say the biggest offender is how drastically different the Dawn looked in 4 because they were too lazy to have more than one frigate model.

                                                  [–]FogItNozzel 112 points113 points  (15 children)

                                                  It's admittedly super small and very nitpicky, but I absolutely hate how they made the warthog sound like a monster truck.

                                                  [–]ThatOneGuy1294 21 points22 points  (5 children)

                                                  That and the chaingun sound are just plain wrong.

                                                  [–]FogItNozzel 19 points20 points  (3 children)

                                                  Most of the 343 sound changes didn't really work for me.

                                                  [–]CarpeCookie 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                  I think part of the problem is Bungie is just to great at sound design. Both Destiny and the Bungie Halos have super distinct, memorable sounds. Like, if you just listened to a 5 second clip of one of their games, you can tell exactly what's going.

                                                  The PTSD of hearing an energy sword ignite as you round a corner is just unforgettable

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                                                      [–]Rocketsaucev2 46 points47 points  (0 children)

                                                      Thank you I've always hated the sounds of the warthog since halo 4

                                                      [–]El-Grunto 37 points38 points  (2 children)

                                                      I think the most nitpicky pet peeve of mine is that they changed the shape of the warthog gunner shield to a square instead of keeping the octagonal shape.

                                                      [–]El-MenguONI Section I 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                                                      Absolutely. Keep the rest of the warthog's redesign but they should give us our beloved octagonal shield back. It's part of what made the warthog, the warthog.

                                                      [–]El-Grunto 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                                      I can accept if they said it was a new or updated variant for the 343 games but it's in Halo 2 Anniversary...

                                                      [–]downvote_dinosaurHalo.Bungie.Org 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                      I hate how the changed the warthog's suspension to be like a normal modern car. They got rid of the cool independent legs for each wheel.

                                                      Also they redesigned the pelican for basically no reason.

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                                                        [–]someguyfromlouisiana 34 points35 points  (0 children)

                                                        Nothing bothered me quite like the Dawn suddenly being a completely different ship.

                                                        [–]Javs2469 23 points24 points  (0 children)

                                                        It's not lazy, they went out their way to change every single thing without any reason. It was basically a reboot.

                                                        And man, was it jarring.

                                                        [–]Lumpy_Doubt 57 points58 points  (1 child)

                                                        Halo 4: Modern Warfare

                                                        [–]ALEX7DX343Industries.org 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                                        Don’t bring that in here!

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                                                          [–]GhazillionOnyx 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                                          Yes, it would have been an epic reveal of the new armor, like a new era has begun as he steps out of the pod.

                                                          [–]Comte_Zero 44 points45 points  (0 children)

                                                          Amusingly they even messed up the Halo4 MP version of the Mark VI, dubbing it gen2 so at least its technically not the same.

                                                          And I say that as not a fan of the Mark VI to begin with, I just like consistency.

                                                          [–]DeeBangerCCHalo 3 55 points56 points  (0 children)

                                                          I would love a mod that model swaps everything to Halo 3 style of weapons and armor for the first half of Halo 4.

                                                          ... And also the aliens for the entire campaign lol.

                                                          [–]PyrocitorHalo: MCC 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                                          They even used that for how he went from the Cortana-modded suit to actual Gen 2, in a comic set after the game. Didact picked him up like a ragdoll and crushed his helmet in one hand.

                                                          Would have been cool as hell to have this happen in game before getting to the Infinity.

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                                                            [–]zofinda 713 points714 points  (126 children)

                                                            Yea, I always thought the anger was towards the handwaved explanation, and not the armor design itself.

                                                            [–]diabeetus64Craig 420 points421 points  (63 children)

                                                            They honestly could’ve just written it off as new art direction and I would’ve been fine with it.

                                                            [–]hypernova911 267 points268 points  (48 children)

                                                            I think it was initially but the fandom at the time still hated it. Leading 343 to come up with nanobots.

                                                            [–]deadlyspawn187 168 points169 points  (5 children)

                                                            Nanomachines son

                                                            [–]hypernova911 113 points114 points  (1 child)

                                                            They harden in response to fan backlash.

                                                            [–]Straight_Ninja115Halo 2 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                                                            “Do you know how expensive this gear is son?”

                                                            [–]Alman343 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                                                            Tell that to the covenant

                                                            [–]einharjar009 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                                                            "Used to be a Marine, you know? Fought some low-level grunts. Try Elite Zealots and Brute Warchieftains. Coulda killed Arbiter if I hadn't joined the Spartan Program. I'm not one of those belt-weight pansies.

                                                            I could break a Halo in two, WITH MY OWN BARE HANDS"

                                                            [–]Comte_Zero 119 points120 points  (27 children)

                                                            Which is even more ridiculous. Giving a nonsensical shoehorned lore reason to an art direction change because its disliked by lore-loving fans is evidently not going to go well.

                                                            The UNSC is still not that far beyond 21st century tech, with a lot of gritty industrialism doing the brunt of the work. Armor-remaking-nanomachines à la Tony Stark make no sense, especially when you leave battle dents in the armor.

                                                            Like what were they thinking? Own your direction and deal with it, or revert.

                                                            [–]PeterJakeson 24 points25 points  (3 children)

                                                            It also makes no sense, because what practical purpose has it ever served? Chief was in cryo, so what was the implication with that nano-tech? That other Spartans also had the literal shape of their armor change while in sleep mode? How come this tech was never used elsewhere? That would be groundbreaking, but apparently it was only used on the Master Chief and only because he was frozen in a pod? What happened to his Halo 4 armor since Infinite, is he still wearing it, but the nanobots changed it to the one we see in Infinite? It's fucking ridiculous.

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                                                              [–]AftermaThXCVII 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                                                              If I recall most were fine with it just being a change visually. Some people weren't fans of the change, but then Franky comes out with the nanomachines bs and opened this whole can of worms we have today. Because it was inconsistent too, so only his armor was a physical change but the weapons, vehicles, and the whole damned Dawn itself were still just visual changes according to 343.

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                                                                [–]64ac 70 points71 points  (4 children)

                                                                Or start the game with classic suit and he gets the upgrade when you get to the Infinity. But that wouldn't be good for marketing probably.

                                                                [–]M6D_Magnum 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                                                                This is what should of happened. The worst part of this is his original suit is already modeled and in the game because YOU GET IT FOR BEATING THE GOD DAMN GAME ON LEGENDARY. 343 was just being stupid.

                                                                [–]needconfirmation 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                It's details like that that can separate good from great.

                                                                Like ME2 starting the game in armor from ME1 and then you get the new suit.

                                                                [–]Sexy_Koala_Juice 19 points20 points  (1 child)

                                                                True but not like they really give a shit about marketing and being accurate, literally look at halo 5. Or infinity war for example, hulk wasn’t even in the end team up battle

                                                                [–]Pirdak 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                                Well with Infinity War, that was Disney avoiding the spoiler that Banner wasn’t able to transform. Like how Thanos only had two Infinity Stones, not five, when Cap block him with the shield on the same trailer.

                                                                [–]Xxfarleyjdxx 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                                                                they could have had him in his og mk.6 from h3 and when he meets back up with the infinity then they could upgrade his armor. would have made alot more sense

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                                                                  [–]theallaroundnerd 27 points28 points  (3 children)

                                                                  With all the Spartan 4s running around, and how quickly you meet Lasky and the team, they could have used the armor for promotional stuff, started with the Halo 3 armor, then gave him this armor as an upgrade to his suit

                                                                  [–]Captain__Sterling 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                                                                  That actually would make a lot of sense, have the armor transition be between 'Infinity' and 'Reclaimer'

                                                                  [–]theallaroundnerd 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                                                                  Yeah, makes perfect sense to me.

                                                                  [–]Captain__Sterling 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                                                                  That would have realistically given us time to explore the Infinity (briefly) and for us to see the scope of how big it is. Maybe manually walk down the Spartan Hall, and see Spartan-IVs deploying. Could have added part of the cutscene from the ending where everyone stares at Chief's approach for the armor mods

                                                                  [–]SoundRavage 192 points193 points  (7 children)

                                                                  I personally don’t like either. The Halo 2/3 suit is too icon in my eyes.

                                                                  [–]AphalaS117 54 points55 points  (0 children)

                                                                  Mk V/VI is my absolute jam.

                                                                  [–]AscendedViking7 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                                                                  I honestly love the Infinite suit more than any of them.

                                                                  The 2/3 armor looks too wierd to me compared to 1 and 4's.

                                                                  [–]SoundRavage 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                                                                  The Infinite suit does look great.

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                                                                      [–]SardonicSamurai 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                                                                      Both. Definitely both.

                                                                      [–]ShiguruiX 25 points26 points  (2 children)

                                                                      I never cared what the story had to say, the gaps in the armor with the exposed suits underneath in 4/5 was horrifying.

                                                                      [–]Bodhran_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                                                                      Yeah that was always my biggest problem too. True, there's energy shields but when they're down it seems to make more sense to have a wall of armor over your vital organs instead of the techsuit.

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                                                                        [–]Dr_Coxian 39 points40 points  (6 children)

                                                                        I disliked the design of everything in 4 AND the hand waved explanation.

                                                                        [–]DarkApostleMatt 25 points26 points  (5 children)

                                                                        I couldn’t stand how they redesigned literally everything from architecture to weapons and armor for each faction. Most of it sat in uncanny valley for me like the Pelican, They just all looked off.

                                                                        Edit: the Bungie Pelicans had a single connected cockpit while the 343 ones had two bubble glass cockpits, also the size and shape of the hull is different and all together I think smaller

                                                                        [–]Dr_Coxian 17 points18 points  (2 children)

                                                                        343 has done a pretty shit job of design from the start

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                                                                          [–]DRACULA_WOLFMAN 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                                                                          Eh, the explanation is pretty stupid but I also think the armor design is genuinely bad too.

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                                                                            [–]-TheArbiter-🦍🦍🦍 Craig 🦍🦍🦍 122 points123 points  (9 children)

                                                                            They literally could have said it was a art style change and leave it as that but nope. NANO BOTS

                                                                            [–]Wasabi_Toothpaste 66 points67 points  (3 children)

                                                                            NANOMACHINES, SON

                                                                            [–]NobleOtter4 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                                                                            COURTESY OF RAY PALMER

                                                                            [–]TheDJZ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                            Fox...Die

                                                                            [–]vertigo42 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                                                                            Because they did say that at first and people couldnt get that. Look through this thread and you'll see examples of people not understanding that.

                                                                            Hell the half of the Forward unto Dawn is shaped differently.

                                                                            [–]RuneGloriusHalo 4 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                                                                            You say that like the only complaining was about lack of lore explanation of that change. I liked Halo 4/5 armor more than all the other Chiefs armors, but most people were complaining about artstyle, so it wouldnt satisfy those people if they said that they want an artstyle change.

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                                                                              [–]oomcommanderHalo 3 134 points135 points  (26 children)

                                                                              And it was basically concealing a retcon. The game acted like that's the armor he and other Spartan-IIs always had, like in the first cutscene with Halsey talking about them being ready for the Covenant.

                                                                              Nanobots was always a nonsense explanation, because the Forward Unto Dawn's appearance was also completely changed. If it was nanobots, it's hilarious to me that they can change the appearance of a whole frigate but still leave it cut in half lol.

                                                                              [–]asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy 19 points20 points  (2 children)

                                                                              To be fair, the first Halo game has a singular bridge holding an entire ship together during the final warthog run sequence, lol.

                                                                              [–]RuneGloriusHalo 4 44 points45 points  (15 children)

                                                                              That first cutscene is there to set a tone, its not a 100% accurate representation. Its used for storytelling purposes so player can visualize what Halsey is talking about.

                                                                              [–]Dylan20_- 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                                                                              The flashbacks weren't lore accurate because of time and resources

                                                                              Sorta like how on the reverse the Halo 4 flashback in Infinite uses Infinitester Chief and 2/Infinitana

                                                                              Though I don't know why they didn't just use the Halo Wars Spartan, Marine and Elite Blur Cutscene Models and how they were able to make a whole new Brute model despite no Brutes in 4

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                                                                                [–]ChinChilla2121 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                                What would make sense is that once he rejoined with the Infinity after the initial sequence in halo 4, then he gets the new armor.

                                                                                I guess Cortana knew what the Spartan 4’s were armored with and made Chief’s the same, even the under techsuit.

                                                                                [–]Foooour 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                                                                Wait I thought they went back on that explanation, and just said its an artstyle change

                                                                                Because it makes no fucking sense otherwise why the scratch/dent on the chest carried over from Halo 3. What, the nanomachines literally upgraded every part of the armor but left the dent?

                                                                                Dont even get me started on the first cutscene where they show squads of pre-Reach Spartan 2s in the Halo 4 armor

                                                                                [–]BADSTALKER 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                                                I completely missed that. Was that in game dialogue or some bts developer thing?

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                                                                                  [–]Dr-OctogonnopusHalo 3 1489 points1490 points  (33 children)

                                                                                  Now do the opposite; mod Halo 3 Chief (and other assets) into Halo 4 and you will earn the love and admiration of the majority of this sub

                                                                                  [–]TheChunkierBeanBlame Bean[S] 514 points515 points  (28 children)

                                                                                  That's the plan haha

                                                                                  [–]OwlEmperor 212 points213 points  (17 children)

                                                                                  Use the halo 2 anniversary chief and put him into 3 and 4, that way there's no nonsense redesigns throughout the entire mark VI run. only thing I think might be a hurdle is the number of bones in the model.

                                                                                  [–]Actually-Will 64 points65 points  (4 children)

                                                                                  Use the MKVI until he gets back with the UNSC in halo 4

                                                                                  [–]OwlEmperor 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                                                                  I'd be fine with either that or the full game with the halo 2 model, I always assumed Chief was too focused on the mission at hand to waste time removing his suit and getting a new one fitted. Especially if he was worried about the didact attacking the Infinity again.

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                                                                                    [–]Vincentaneous 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                                                                                    This guy ported the H2A set to 4 a while back

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                                                                                    Another one for the some weapons that were added

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                                                                                      [–]whiskymohawkONI 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                                                                                      Then you are the protector of r/Halo and all her colonies.

                                                                                      [–]true_contrarian 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                                                                                      But keep Halo 4 Cortana. Actually, mod Halo 4 Cortana into every other Halo... for science. Ty.

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                                                                                        [–]LoliDealerHalo: Reach 56 points57 points  (0 children)

                                                                                        So this is how democracy dies... with applause

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                                                                                          [–]SlabGizor120 38 points39 points  (1 child)

                                                                                          Damn that music got me again. Time to replay Halo 3

                                                                                          [–]nosce_te_ipsum 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                                                                          Yup - memories came washing back with that score.

                                                                                          [–]ziltoidbb 173 points174 points  (4 children)

                                                                                          That's rad. I wonder if you can do this with the halo 1 model.

                                                                                          [–]unholyreason 61 points62 points  (0 children)

                                                                                          I’m pretty sure it’s already been done, with updated textures and everything

                                                                                          [–]GunpowderMonkey 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                                                                                          What if Chief still wore Mark V in Halo 3?

                                                                                          [–]BUR6SHalo 3: ODST 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                                          This should be available in Halo 3 MCC multiplayer, this seriously looks fantastic.

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                                                                                            [–]lostpawn13 213 points214 points  (2 children)

                                                                                            Why didn’t you put big bird in there? If you have the tech then make it happen.

                                                                                            [–]Bau5_Sau5 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                                                                            I’m trying to understand why this posted is so upvoted , like why is this a big deal?

                                                                                            [–]lostpawn13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                                                                            People love Big Bird man. Also, it would be hilarious.

                                                                                            [–]tomster2300 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                                                                            Whoever wrote Sarge did a wonderful job. What a great character.

                                                                                            [–]SamuraiHntrHalo: Reach 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                                                                            Now do it the other way around

                                                                                            [–]halcyon94 131 points132 points  (31 children)

                                                                                            I just hate how the pauldron doesnt cover the actual shoulder

                                                                                            [–]TheGameJockey 79 points80 points  (12 children)

                                                                                            That's a thing with most GEN II stuff, it's more realistic since it allowed for almost full shoulder mobility but I did miss the spade shaped pauldrons that stayed on the actual shoulder

                                                                                            [–]Greyjack00 31 points32 points  (11 children)

                                                                                            We have pauldrons in real life that cover the actual shoulder

                                                                                            [–]ShiguruiX 40 points41 points  (5 children)

                                                                                            There are videos of men in full plate armor doing gymnastics. Every time someone defends how stupid GEN II is they bring up mobility and flexibility. It's like I'm in /r/forhonor again.

                                                                                            [–]Greyjack00 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                                                                                            Oh god, a nightmare. Wardens deserve a plate breastplate dammit.

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                                                                                                  [–]CobraSkrillXHalo 3 217 points218 points  (19 children)

                                                                                                  The armour is alright imo. The only problem I have with it is that 343i made it seem like Chief had it from the start in Halo 4’s cutscenes which was annoying

                                                                                                  [–]KaneXX12 156 points157 points  (3 children)

                                                                                                  I would find it so much better if he’d awoken with the classic suit, only to get this brand new top of the line model once he got to Infinity. Would that have been so hard?

                                                                                                  [–]AlanMooreshitHalo 2 32 points33 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                  I guess it removes a lot of the impact of chief finally getting out of the suit in the final cutscene.

                                                                                                  [–]IamEclipse 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                  Bruh just have Chief get changed in the bathroom or something.

                                                                                                  We all know he's a gigachad and wants to swing around his massive 2 foot dick in front of the entire UNSC in the final cutscene but I think we could all agree that a guy who just stepped out of cryofreeze might not be in tip top shape and want to change his super soldier undies in fucking private.

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                                                                                                    [–]Celestial_Bachelor 26 points27 points  (10 children)

                                                                                                    It's suposed to be the same armour in different styles, isn't it?

                                                                                                    [–]LeakysBrother 44 points45 points  (6 children)

                                                                                                    Nah, upgraded via nanobots while in cryo.

                                                                                                    [–]Celestial_Bachelor 13 points14 points  (5 children)

                                                                                                    In game they tell about small upgrades, the broken part is even still there

                                                                                                    [–]AgentChief 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                    No, it should have been the old armor but I think they didn't have time to make a new model of the old one

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                                                                                                      [–]Sgt_Meowmers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                      I never had a problem with Cheifs armor changing, it was the Elites changing that pissed me off. So glad they are back to Halo 1/2 style now .

                                                                                                      [–]DeeBangerCCHalo 3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                      Johnson: Chief... You armor-

                                                                                                      Chief: Nano machines, son!

                                                                                                      [–]Juice117 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                      Can you make master chief look like he did in the halo 3 announcement trailer? (Heavily textured armor, almost golden)

                                                                                                      [–]Rottenpotato365Halo 2 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                      You’ve single handily pissed off 99.8% of this subreddit

                                                                                                      [–]Delde116 88 points89 points  (24 children)

                                                                                                      Halo 3 launched the xbox 360. Halo 4 closed the Xbox 360. The difference in graphics and 3d modeling is insane.

                                                                                                      [–]veto_for_brs 53 points54 points  (9 children)

                                                                                                      Halo 3 came out 2 years after the 360 was realeased

                                                                                                      [–]quiquiriqui1231 28 points29 points  (8 children)

                                                                                                      Yeah I don't know what the fuck that guy was on about, I played almost as much Halo 2 as Halo 3 on my 360

                                                                                                      [–]Fishbulb7o9 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                      I remember when the majority of players on Xbox Live were still on Halo 2 after 360 launched.

                                                                                                      [–]RicardusAlpertONI 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                                                                                                      Halo 2 was on the OG Xbox though.

                                                                                                      [–]Warrior-PoetIceCube 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                                                                                                      Yes but before Halo 3 it was the only halo you could play on a 360

                                                                                                      [–]quiquiriqui1231 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                                                                                                      Remember when consoles had backwards compatibility? Apparently some parts of Reddit don't.

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                                                                                                          [–]KytorIndustries 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                          It's treason then.

                                                                                                          [–]thorppeed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                          Cursed but good job

                                                                                                          [–]EUCopyrightComittee 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                          I am unimpressed by the lack of garfield

                                                                                                          [–]SparsePizza117 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                          Damn the Nano bots really went to work while he was falling out of the sky

                                                                                                          [–]tony-108-05 189 points190 points  (28 children)

                                                                                                          As controversial as this will be, I actually liked chiefs H4 armor. Granted the helmet was weird and could’ve used a few tweaks, it was good overall

                                                                                                          [–]IHaveASafeToCrackHalo 3: ODST 123 points124 points  (21 children)

                                                                                                          Is it controversial to like halo 4's armour? Ive been an offline campaign player all my life and never really talked to any other halo players but I always thought master chief on that cover art and in the game looked awesome.

                                                                                                          [–]TURBOWANDS 79 points80 points  (18 children)

                                                                                                          It's more about how they explained the change in his armor. The nano bots while you were sleeping excuse was cheap and dumb. All they needed to do was wait for him to meet with the infinity, get his suit replaced with a new model and that would have been a perfectly reasonable excuse to have an art style change.

                                                                                                          [–]Jormungandrv 35 points36 points  (13 children)

                                                                                                          You'd also have to explain the covenant/Cortana changes too lol.

                                                                                                          I thought his Halo 4 suit looked cool, but his Halo 2 suit is way more iconic imo

                                                                                                          [–]FrancisDuFresne 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                          I’ve really liked every suit he’s worn, and my favorite is the Gen 3 from Infinite. This is a really cool juxtaposition between the art styles though, good work OP

                                                                                                          [–]SweetChemist 18 points19 points  (9 children)

                                                                                                          Covenant changes were already explained in game, "a lot can happen in 5 years."

                                                                                                          As for Cortana, she's a digital hologram that's changed appearance in every single game, she doesn't really need to be explained.

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                                                                                                                  [–]T-MONZ_GCU 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                  Hate the suit but idk why people are having on you, this mod work is really really well done

                                                                                                                  [–]imaliddleboy 60 points61 points  (3 children)

                                                                                                                  Ngl, it kinda fits in a weird way

                                                                                                                  [–]theboywhosmokethesun 46 points47 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                                  It fits because despite the change, the visual identity is still present. Try putting I dunno Venator in there and then it starts looking a bit weird.

                                                                                                                  [–]Useful_moccasins 26 points27 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                  Also the lighting in the scene really pulls it all together

                                                                                                                  [–]Spuzaw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                  The Halo 3 animations don't fit the heavy look of Halo 4's armor.

                                                                                                                  [–]kersegumONI 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                  Holy shit, Halo 4 is so much better with detail, it’s crazy how it’s a 360 game at all

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