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[–]RandyWatson8 1636 points1637 points  (81 children)

Where have we seen this previously?

[–]grrrrreat 784 points785 points  (30 children)

Hey man, it's an authoritarianism tactic

[–]similar_observation 188 points189 points  (10 children)

Get your goggles. This Bolsonaro fool is gonna increase flow on the firehose

[–]Modal_Window 35 points36 points  (2 children)

My keyboard is ready.

[–]ChickenSuitable6515 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Oh no! No one has ever seen this tactic before. I wonder what slimy garbage eater taught him this?

[–]enochian777 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Are you implying that a) Bolsonaro could learn from another human being, b) that fat fuck blowhard coward from the States could teach someone something and c) this is not just the type of gaslight-y bullshittery the kind of brain that behaves like these 2 and other authoritarian wannabe strong men comes up with naturally? It's like the Principle Skinner thing 'im not out of touch' meme, but without any trace of irony or mockery. Between whatever happens in their heads, and how it doesn't match with reality, it must be reality that's wrong, because the very idea that they could be is absurd.

Incidentally,I think we should bring back the Wilhelm Reich terminology for these autocrats. 'Little Man'.

[–]SyntheticSlime 22 points23 points  (6 children)

The goggles! They do nothing!

[–]worldwide2047 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Unexpected Ranier Wolfcastle

[–]Marthaver1 70 points71 points  (10 children)

The elections are only rigged in the regions where these tyrant wannabes lose. All other place they win is totally fine. These fucks have no shame.

[–]Last-Woodpecker 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh, you clear don't know Bolsonaro. He won last election and still claimed it was rigged, that if it was not he would have gotten much more votes and would had won in the first turn.

[–]cbarrister 20 points21 points  (1 child)

If I win the results were legit, if I lose, you must have cheated. It's what a 4 year old does playing a board game.

Also dictators.

[–]id7e 124 points125 points  (4 children)

He wasn't called the Brazilian Trump for no reason.

[–]Mrepman81 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Both have faces you want to smack tbh

[–]mieiri 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Bannon class of '16 and '18

[–]Primary-Bath803 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He manages to be worse than Trump. Believe me, Trump is reasonable compared to this guy

[–]OssoRangedor 25 points26 points  (2 children)

This douchebag questioned the ballots in an election where he was VICTORIOUS.

[–]RandyWatson8 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So did Trump until he found he won.

[–]lolpostslol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t think he’s got an actual plan; he might have just drunk the Trumpist kool-aid like every middle aged dude in Brazil seems to have

[–]EmbarrassedHelp 118 points119 points  (21 children)

He wants to pull a Trump, or at least a Boris Johnson

[–]I_said_wot 44 points45 points  (16 children)

[–]OlinOfTheHillPeople 77 points78 points  (7 children)

He hasn't actually stepped down yet.

[–]I_said_wot 38 points39 points  (3 children)

He's publicly announced as such, something Trump never did.

[–]Baconinja13 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Would you even go so far as to say that he pledged to step down?

[–]gcoba218 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is only staying on until someone new is elected

[–]Pokuo 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Boris Johnson had what ?! That's a sentence no one has probably said before. He did everything possible to not step down, then pledged to do so when he had no other option. What dignity are you talking about ?

[–]Cncfan84 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'll believe it when I see it

[–]thatoneguy889 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just FYI, Boris Johnson is now blaming his scandals on the deep state conspiring against him.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no, hes already at their level, he wants to take it a step further and be the first one of the modern wannabe dictators that actually officially ends democracy.
hes trying to pull a mussolini more than anything. and much like mussolini, any perceived improvements under him will encourage and inspire anti democratic sentiment across the world.

[–]shutter3218 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They get everything a little later in Brazil. It has to be translated and dubbed over first after all.

[–]nanormcfloyd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of these scumbags are the same.

I still have the occasional tinfoil hat moment when I think about how this brand of authoritarian leader seemingly sprung up around the same time.

[–]VanSensei 1417 points1418 points  (87 children)

I mean, in a country that's barely 40 years removed from a military junta, you should be scared he'll try and do something

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 631 points632 points  (52 children)

It will be 40 years in 2025 formally and actually in 2029-30 only unfortunatelly.

But i think if he tries something his sons will just be arrested (like they should be if we were an actual serious country) and he be deported the very same day.

He has very little popular approval and outside of some crazy middle class sectora with illusions of grandeur no one would support him. The anti-PT (worker's party) discourse than won him the election doesnt help when people have to actually buy bones and chicken foot to eat, and even that isnt a guarantee you wont go sleep hungry anymore. Some people may have forgotten what it meant polically to live on a dictatorship, but we arent unfamiliar to the fear of being beat up by the police.

[–]gingeronimooo 103 points104 points  (0 children)

Appreciate your perspective

[–]henryptung 83 points84 points  (19 children)

It's not about popular approval, it's about military support. Plenty of examples have shown that as long as the military stands in support of a self-coup, the aspiring dictator may not win but the people will almost definitely lose.

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 52 points53 points  (13 children)

I dont think bolsonaro have the support from the armed forces he tries to make people believe he does. While he absolutely plotted self-coups more than once he never managed to go close down the supreme court...

For example, he managed to get the leaders of the three forces to resign due to his meddling with the defence ministry. It doesnt help that while he likes to claim he has a military past, the truth is he was a kind of "unionist" in the army (formal unions are ilegal in the army) and was kicked for cooking up a plan to blow up some army quarters to ask for better pay (i know it sounds unbelievable, but look it up).

The one place he has quite a lot of support is in the military police. The civil police, like most of the civil servants, arent happy with him due to lower pay and all. It doesnt help that his economy minister called all civil servants parasites.

[–]Skud_NZ 8 points9 points  (8 children)

What's the guy that's likely to beat him like?

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Former brazilian president for the workers party, Lula.

At the start of his political career in the 80's he had a pretty radical discourse, sometimes even quite socialist and anti-american and all. When he was elected he had a much more moderated discourse and kept much of the moderate external politics from the prior center-right government. It did increase the minimum wage a lot (from around 100 dollars to close to 300 dollars at the time) and made a robust welfare program (bolsa família).

But his party was involved with a lot of corruption, in special the "Mensalão" scheme, that was basically a scheme that paid off congressman to vote with the government. It purged most of the heads of the workers party but lula still managed to be reelected and get his sucessor to be relected twice... and then she was impeached for another corruption scheme, this time involving the brazilian oil company Petrobras. (The formal reason for Dilma's impeachement was due to some fiscal mismanagement)

So big chunks of the population felt betrayed and bolsonaro (formerly a low-clergy deputy, allegedly only working for the interest of ex-cop crime syndicates in Rio de Janeiro know as "milicias) managed to harness this "anti-PT" feeling that was/is(?) Very strong amongst some portions of the population, specially a urban middle class.

[–]Primary-Bath803 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Are you Brazilian? Dilma was not impeached because of Petrobras, she was impeached because of the adjustments her government made on its finantials to create more space for spending. Something that is not a reason to be impeached anymore (Bolsonaro’s government has been done the same thing multiple times)

Obs: If you’re not brazilian, what you’ve been told about Dilma’s impeachment is a straight up lie. If you’re brazilian, you’re just noushiring yourselve with the “anti-pt” narrative and spreading fake news

[–]StridBR 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Typical latin american populist with anti-US, anti-EU views. He say's Zelensky is a comedian, won't criticize Putin, defends Ortega's dictatorship.

In the past, he recorded a video supporting Maduro running for Venezuela's elections. Was close to Lybia's Muammar Al Gaddafi and Iran's Ahmadinejad.

[–]MR1933 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Nothing you said is false, yet you were downvoted.

[–]lolpostslol 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean, it is the most one-sided portrayal of Lula I’ve ever seen lol. Dude has done decent foreign policy overall, way better than Bolsonaro. But yeah it’s all true lol

[–]StridBR 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Bolsonaro is a project of the armed forces. They are using him, not the other way around.

He was put there as part of a bigger plan, he's just the first stage.

[–]lolpostslol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He’s got some popular approval, it’s just that his supporters are in social-media bubbles and don’t really say it outright in polls. That said, agree that Brazilians would just kick him out if he tried something because 1) he managed to make the media hate him (usually the media is pro govt but somehow not now), 2) center-right congress is the economic elite and wouldn’t have it, 3) in a difficult economy it’s easier to turn his supporters against him and 4) center-left candidate Lula also has good support. Also, honestly, I don’t think he’s competent enough to pull it off unless there’s foreign support, and without Trump his support would have to be Putin, and Putin is probably just too busy right now

[–]ThaneKyrell 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Yeah. Just look at Venezuela. It is the blueprint that Bolsonaro is following. The Venezuelan people hate Maduro. Literally 20% of the country had to flee because of Maduro's horrible government. But he kept the loyalty of the military, which was enough for him to keep in power. Popularity among the population is irrelevant. You can have a 1% approval rating, but as long as this 1% are the military, you can remain in power. Some Brazilians are wildly optimistic over this. Honestly our only hope is that the military high command will remain loyal to the Constitution

[–]BuckVoc 30 points31 points  (1 child)

You can have a 1% approval rating, but as long as this 1% are the military, you can remain in power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus

Lucius Septimius Severus (Latin: [sɛˈweːrʊs]; 11 April 145 – 4 February 211) was Roman emperor from 193 to 211.

Severus is famously said to have given the advice to his sons: "Be harmonious, enrich the soldiers, scorn all others" before he died on 4 February 211.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donativum

The donativum (plural donativa) was a gift of money by the Roman emperors to the soldiers of the Roman legions or to the Praetorian Guard. The English translation is donative.

The purpose of the donativa varied. Some were expressions of gratitude for favors received, and others outright bribery for favours expected in return. Donativa were normally rendered at the beginning of each new emperor's reign. During the 2nd and 3rd centuries, that form of bribery became a crucial part of any successful ruler in Rome. Such was the case with many of the soldier-emperors from 235 to 248.

[–]ThaneKyrell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Severus was a great general and a terrible emperor. He basically ended the golden age of Rome and started the Crisis of the Third Century. While Cassius Dio claims it was Commodus that ended the "age of gold" and started one of "iron and rust", I feel like it was Septimius Severus and his sons with their terrible governance.

[–]Baratation 17 points18 points  (4 children)

You forget that he has a small but violent and bloodthirsty part of the police supporting him

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Believe me, i dont even for a moment.

[–]Tevatrox 7 points8 points  (2 children)

It's not small at all. It's the vast majority of the police force. Whoever believes otherwise is sorely missguided. Bolsonaro has the support of the military and the police forces. Pretty much all security-related Institutions are with him on this. Brazil will face a coup attempt.

[–]8910237192839-128312 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He does not have support of the military, only the military police. Several top-level military/navy/airforce leaders already contradicted him publically when he implied he had their support in a possible coup attempt.

[–]tok90235 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I'm not pro Bolsonaro, but being realist, his base is not that small(it will lose the election, but it's not small)

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 5 points6 points  (1 child)

For the election? Sure. But how many of his supporters would support a dictatorship? I know its not 0, but i dont think even a tenth of his votes would convert to support him as dictator.

On the flip side, if im wrong i would have more things to worry than being wrong on reddit...

[–]dark_dark_dark_not 5 points6 points  (2 children)

If Bolsonaro does a Coup and it works, Bolsonaro won't be kept in power.

The Military will probably put some less known high military dude saying "Oh Brazil is in a bad situation, we'll just keep power to reorganize stuff", and than they'll just won't leave power.

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That i could see working, unfortunatelly.

I dont think that is very likely tho.

[–]leshake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Turkish approach works until you get a worse dictator.

[–]busdriverbuddha2 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Brazilian citizens cannot be deported. But I hope he sees some jail time.

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I mean, if he atempts a coup and is thwarted there seems he either ends up in jail, in exile (i guess thats the right word for the case) or in a coffin.

[–]busdriverbuddha2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, if he self-exiles to avoid jail time, it's one thing. But he cannot be forcibly exiled from the country.

[–]Eskimo_Brothers 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fuck the cops man.

[–]Endarkend 13 points14 points  (11 children)

I have to hand it to the man tho. Getting stabbed on purpose, to win an election, he isn't your typical spineless narcissist with dictator aspirations.

[–]Hilderionn 56 points57 points  (4 children)

I don't think this was an elaborate plan for getting elected, it was just a crazy random thing that happened and he used to play victim and run away from debates.

[–]spacec4t 4 points5 points  (2 children)

What you say is very interesting. Seriously, I wonder how much he was actually hurt VS how much was pure theater. He's shown many times that he's not courageous or brave in any way. From what can be seen on videos, the way he reacted in that situation seems theatrical and fake, like so many things he does that are pure show-off for his impressionable fans.

More recently and on two occasions he tried to milk that incident again by using a supposed intestinal blockage he pretended was due to his stabbing to distract attention from a political pickle he was in. A health situation so bad the doctors sent him home without any intervention. He was laughed for publishing pictures of himself bare-bellied on an hospital bed with showy ECG sensors attached to him. But no trace of any scars.

[–]heartofcoal 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I hate Bolsonaro but the man has been shitting out of his nose every 4 months since the stab. I don't think he does that for clout.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I am an American living with my in-laws in São Paulo. I’ve actually grown to like chicken feet. I googled it and the broth is actually a cheap source of glucosamine. But I realize this is a serious matter for many Brazilians. I hope it is resolved without violence. I love Brazil! Also, as an American, I am very careful not to speculate on Brazilian politics. Not only is it a sensitive issue, but many of my biases and views have led me down a path of absolutely bad judgements. The commenter for which I post this reply sounds like they are from Brazil, but many responses are from foreigners who are speculating on matters they don’t understand. For example, living amongst Brazilians and in a big city such as São Paulo where I have already been a victim of petty crime and have seen violence, I feel that most Brazilians possess a level of empathy for one another that most Americans don’t have. What that means for me is that I would fear for my safety in a “violent uprising” more in the United States, than in Brazil. First and foremost, most Americans are far better armed that Brazilians. Secondly, only now are a wider segment of the population waking up to the actions of some on our police forces as witnessed in the media and on the streets during the protests of the summer of 2020.

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a paulistano im sorry for your stolen stuff and i thank you for your kind words toward us, specially given the circunstances.

But police violence is one thing that hardly anyone from the lower classes escapes in brazil (if you are black then you dont ask if it happens or not, but how many times). The protests of 2013 got that big because a police officer shot a journalist with a rubber bullet in the face, blinding her, f.e.

[–]Otter_in_Jeans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Deported? I think you meant exiled.

[–]Hilderionn 51 points52 points  (21 children)

The 1964 coup only happened because of US support. And I *really* want to believe that current US government will not do it again

[–]KnightsOfCidona 30 points31 points  (8 children)

I doubt Biden has much love for Bolsonaro given his Trump connections. And it's Lula that looks likely to replace him, a known quantity and someone who's not going to go full anti-America. Also Bolsonaro is a loose cannon, I'd say they prefer someone more predictable like Lula. Don't think the current administration will stick their necks out for Bolsonaro.

[–]mieiri 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Lula has more than 50% of the valid votes in the first round. He could win right there and thats why the worm is worried.

Loved your username.

[–]mysteryfluff 11 points12 points  (0 children)

yeh im sure the CIA wont try anything fucky to stop lula getting in power

/s

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you mean the junta that bolsonaro openly praised as part of his original campaign when he also promised to fill his government with military leaders? you think hes trying to bring that back?

[–]bizarredditor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The main issue is that Brazil never really condemned the crimes commited during the dictatorship.

By the end of the 80s, the military government was weaker, and the population was claiming for democracy. Then, to allow this, the military proclaimed an amnesty for everything that happened in that period (1964-1989). So, that included forgiving the people who fought for democracy against the dictatorship but also the military members who committed crimes (murder, torture etc).

That's happened in others latin american dictatorships as well, but at one point during their new democratic regime, they judged and condemned those who commited crimes for the dictatorship. In Brazil, they claimed those generals would be too old so there was no point judging them for prescribed crimes.

This is a very serious mistake. The military urgently needs to be judged for their crimes, because:

  1. To investigate and shed light in all the crimes that occurred (including corruption);

  2. They will not be punished but it is important to judge them and declare them guilty, so we as a society can recognise all those horrors and move on.

The plan of the military, with support of other local elites, worked, so lots of those crimes were forgotten, hundreds of families never got justice. That's why some ppl nowadays still claim that things were better back then.

The direct result of that is the election of bolsonaro and the take over from the military. Since the Dilma government, number of military personnel in civil functions in the executive government went from 1.8k to 6.2k (including the high levels such as many ministries). So don't be naive, the military is deeply involved in the fascist coup that's being put in motion in Brazil as we speak.

One last thing to add: back in 2016, Dilma was voted to be impeached (due to breaking fiscal limits, which don't exist now under bolsonaro). During the vote in the congress for her impeachment, bolsonaro (a congressman back then) voted in favor of the impeachment and justified that it was "in memory of colonel Ustra"

So, this colonel Ustra was part of the military government during the dictatorship and was infamous for being a particularly cruel torturer. He used to put live rats inside womens vaginas during torturing sessions. Bolsonaro dedicated his vote for the impeachment (coup) because Dilma fought against the dictatorship, was arrested, and tortured by Ustra.

[–]adoxographyadlibitum 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm worried because historically the US has preferred rulers like Bolsonaro and the State department could be getting nervous with the pink tide.

Edit: This is controversial? Can anyone name a left-wing coup the US has had a hand in in Latin America? We're like 0 for 89 on that.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lula is a convicted crook. Brazil's bureaucracy is dysfunctional. But the good news is that Brazil will never give up its title as country of the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZApBgNQgKPU

[–]LeoFrei7as 450 points451 points  (29 children)

It’s funny on how now that he’s afraid the election system is no good but when the exact same election system got him in office it was flawless

[–]Moonbluesvoltage 183 points184 points  (21 children)

Just fyi, when he was elected he also spent a lot of his campaign saying the system was corrupt and stolen and what not (its actually one of thr best things we have tbh). And as non-sensical as it may sound, he kept saying the same thing after he won.

The actual reason should be no mystery to anyone, specially people in the USA. Massive useless changes are great to stral more money, to divert focus and make an actual fraudulent system. And to be a sore loser when we kick his psychopath ass out of the chair.

[–]DerekB52 98 points99 points  (16 children)

Trump won the presidency in 2016, thanks to the electoral college, a system that was designed to be un-democratic, on purpose. Despite the fact that Trump WON the presidency, he also said that the popular vote was stolen from him, and he won that too. He even created a committee to "investigate" the 2016 election and find the fake votes that Hillary got.

I think he still claims he won the popular vote in 2016. It looks insane, but these fascists gotta do this weird shit.

[–]X0nfus3d 25 points26 points  (1 child)

It’s all a game. To them, especially. You win some you lose some. “Oh cool, I became the president of the United States right now by playing the long con being a useful idiot for Russia (China extendedly?)”. Can’t wait to tell Kim about this. 😂

[–]impy695 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And when you lose, you actually win because a ton of idiots will just throw millions of dollars at you to help "prove you won"

[–]Killspree90 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Sounds like a former president

[–]majorjoe23 133 points134 points  (4 children)

It’s almost like there’s a new playbook for shitty politicians.

[–]FirstEvolutionist 43 points44 points  (0 children)

There's nothing new about it.

[–]progrethth 23 points24 points  (0 children)

This playbook is ancient.

[–]Arqium 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is. Check Mercer family and The Movement and Steve Banon.

Bolsonaros has close ties with Banon since 2018

[–]eggnogui 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hardly new. Merely adjusted to fit current technologies.

[–]HelloYesItsMeYourMom 546 points547 points  (36 children)

The global right is descending into authoritarian degeneracy

[–]ziggy-hudson 302 points303 points  (10 children)

You mean rising to the occasion?

This is what right wing politics always wanted: rigid hierarchical power enforced violently. If they cant get it in elections they'll just steal it.

[–]dudinax 40 points41 points  (2 children)

No, degeneracy is the right word. It's been amazing watching people dumb themselves down to fit in with this movement.

[–]_zenith 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That’s the word they use and I don’t think it’s good to justify it’s use, particularly given it’s typical contextual use

[–]dudinax 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why? 'Degeneracy' really is the right word. In the US, 80% of Republicans are OK with the president attacking the capitol to stop an election while they unironically think they support the constitution. That's an incredible decline in morals and intellect over just a few years.

The prime US example is the Ukraine scandal, where Trump tried to get Zelensky to announce an investigation against Biden. Most Republicans justify this by claiming it's obvious Biden acted corruptly in Ukraine because his son had a job with a Ukrainian company.

They cannot understand that Biden might do his job, and may resent this company for trying to curry favor by enabling his ne'er do well son. They cannot imagine he would act better than Trump would, even though almost everyone acts better than Trump in almost every situation.

It's total intellectual rot.

[–]Raccoon_Full_of_Cum 93 points94 points  (3 children)

It's a direct reaction against increasing ethnic and religious diversity around the world. The historically dominant ethnic/religious groups in newly diverse countries understand that unless they get rid of democracy, they will not be able to maintain their place atop the social hierarchy forever.

[–]Enders-game 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Brazil has always been diverse. It's power structure is another story. Some people predict a civil war.

[–]f_d 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Brazil and the US are a pair of warning stories about how quickly stable democracies can be subverted once too many people feel excluded from the country's gains. Naturally it's worse when the people who feel excluded are also ripe targets for disinformation.

[–]Tahj42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's inherently based in racism and fascist ideology. They think that every group's goal is to oppress others. They live in a fantasy reality where if you not the one doing the beating, you're the one receiving it.

[–]WoollyMittens 18 points19 points  (0 children)

To them it is ascending. Conservatism was scam to begin with.

[–]mundzuk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"descending" more like making a slight lateral shift

[–]FGN_SUHO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Implying this wasn't the goal to begin with?

[–]crazysexyuncool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

is descending

Started decades ago.

[–]rikeoliveira 49 points50 points  (3 children)

It's ironic that he calls a system that has elect him for 20+ years (he has 30+ years in politics, but he was sucking on the government tits way before the electronic urns were put in place), also most of his 2 sons political careers were done in the electronic elections era. He has no right to make those accusations, but he'll keep saying this shit because a lot of people believe his non sense without questioning shit.

You can't expect much from an idiot that said we need to save (flushing) water by doing #2 every other day or that said people shouldn't vaccinate as COVID was just a little flu, then changed to "people will die anyway, so don't take a vaccine that might turn you in an alligator".

Holy shit, if we make a collection of his "hot takes" this post would be an endless shit dispenser.

[–]giomaxios 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well spoken, my brazilian friend.

[–]johnjohn4011 184 points185 points  (16 children)

Sounds like trumped up accusations......

[–]87flash 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Just like the Cheeto.

"If I lose there was fraud. If I win, nah"

[–]rikki-tikki-deadly 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They claim there was fraud when they win, too, so they can insist they are more popular than they are.

[–]binchbunches 90 points91 points  (25 children)

It's what pieces of trash do

[–]Hockeyhoser 100 points101 points  (10 children)

Straight out of “How to Fascist 101”

[–]Heres_your_sign 76 points77 points  (16 children)

He likes to think he's Trump. He's a poor imitator.

[–]Dimitri3p0 99 points100 points  (4 children)

Trump is a poor imitator of what he wants to be too, so it fits.

[–]crazysexyuncool 19 points20 points  (3 children)

poor imitator of what he wants to be

Putin

[–]Pokuo 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Guy capable of stringing together two coherent sentences would be a better and easier start.

[–]ratatatar 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Imagine how fucked everything would be if he weren't such a narcissistic ball of incompetent overconfidence.

[–]Schaafwond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think for a lot of his followers, that's a big part of his appeal.

[–]LongFluffyDragon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hey, he is doing a great job of it so far; preparing to fail spectacularly right on schedule.

[–]bizarredditor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The scary difference is that he not only has the support of the army, but his government is fundamentally a military government.

[–]whozwat 66 points67 points  (14 children)

Brazilian coups are bloodier than MAGA bulls on parade.

[–]Exodys03 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Uh oh!

We can’t let the people be disenfranchised by a shady election. Better get the military on board to seize voting machines just to make sure everything was fair and square.

Uh oh!

Those Antifa crazies are marching in the street to protest because they hate free and fair elections. Better declare martial law until everything settles down a bit.

Uh oh!

It would be unwise to have any transition with all of this civil unrest. Better to wait a few months until everything settles down.

Uh oh!

That was really bad. We better rewrite election laws to make sure it doesn’t happen again. As a matter of fact, this democracy stuff is really messy and dangerous and look how much trouble the opposition party is causing. The country would be much safer if we just put their treasonous asses in jail. Bolsonaro is the only guy strong enough to make Brazil great again.

[–]spacec4t 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, great again for the richest in a country with one of the widest income gaps in the world.

[–]randompantsfoto 25 points26 points  (3 children)

The sign language interpreter looks like he’s a crazy person that just snuck up on stage and is about to tiger attack Bolsonero or something.

[–]Modal_Window 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is how our most successful assassins work.

[–]jackieatx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my mind this is sign for cockgobbler

[–]ZellEscarlate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he is the puppet master

[–]Mythic-Rare 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Wanted to say something more constructive, but really I just hope that this rotten hamburger of a human being loses phenomenally and unquestionably, gets the fuck outta politics, and in a perfect world meets a rough end at the hands of two dudes on a motorbike. I love Brasil and can't wait for this asshat to cease being the political face of it

[–]argent_pixel 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Good luck, Brazil. Punt this cunt into the ocean.

[–]MadMan1244567 25 points26 points  (7 children)

He won’t be able to do a trump like insurrection for many reasons

1) he doesn’t have the support of the military in this

2) Brasilia, the capital, is designed specifically to prevent this sort of thing. The avenues are massive and buildings/govt offices are far apart. It’s a very difficult city to attempt a coup in/take over and that’s intentional. (It takes 2 hours just to walk down the monumental axis). It makes the city a bit of a weird dystopian place to be, but if it prevents a worst case scenario from Bolsonaro when he loses its worth it.

3) Brasilia is in the middle of nowhere in the interior of the country. The only nearby major city is Goiânia, and it’s not huge. The closest proper major city is Belo Horizonte, which is 10 car hours away. Basically, it’s not as accessible as Washington DC, and an attempted insurrection is thus much harder.

4) Brazilian institutions aren’t perfect but they aren’t overly weak either

I don’t think a Bolsonaro-loss induced attempted insurrection like in the US is something Brasil has to worry about. It has sufficient Barriers in place to prevent such a thing.

[–]Pocketfists 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a bad movie on repeat…

[–]udo3 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Oh no! No one has ever seen this tactic before. I wonder what slimy garbage eater taught him this?

[–]progrethth 8 points9 points  (2 children)

There are quite many possible teachers. It is not like Trump was the one to invent this tactic.

[–]udo3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't say Trump, but if that's the first thing you think of when I say "slimy garbage eater", then I guess maybe he has an image problem.

[–]xfactor6972 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pulling a Trump!

[–]PestyNomad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He is such a Trump playbook parrot. If nothing else he's just boring af.

[–]Francois-C 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The questioning of the electoral system is a fundamental strategy of undermining the foundations of democracy implemented by the global fascist movement.

[–]msmh-12 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Trumpinho at it again

[–]bruindude007 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen this movie before…..

[–]OffKira 4 points5 points  (2 children)

... right, elections are less than three months away. Thanks for the reminder I guess?

And that we got less than three months to see what other insanity this POS manages to throw our way in the meantime. I'm not hopeful.

[–]progrethth 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think the part about the election was added for international audiences to put it into its proper context.

[–]Whygoogleissexist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I never heard of this strategy before. Where did he come up with such an idea?

[–]Independent_Elk8923 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Grasping at straws……….he knows he’s out and his mouth causes him to lose.

[–]NeverWorkedAtWalmart 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What word is the sign language translator signing? It looks cat related.

[–]St1xx_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Southern Brazilian here. I’ll tell you, the shitshow is starting soon.

[–]Speculawyer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All these lying fascists are getting very tiresome.

[–]UnusTheUntouchable 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems familiar.

[–]Popgallery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trump playbook. This is getting old.

[–]BlazeReborn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only solace I get from this disaster of a government, is that it's coming to an end.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

This guy is a total loser, it will be a landslide victory by Lula from the workers party.

There will be riots by the majority of the population if he attempts a Trump-like coup in Brazil.

[–]slicktromboner21 5 points6 points  (0 children)

These populists are predictable trash.

[–]betterwithsambal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Orange asshat playbook right there. If it almost worked in the US why wouldn't it work here, he's probably thinking. And thanks to the crime broker steve bannon's meddling there it's more likely deeper embedded there than we see on the surface.

[–]giocondasmiles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trumpy wannabe.

[–]4862skrrt2684 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"We want to correct the flaws, we want transparency, a real democracy," said the far-right leader, who has repeatedly sought to cast doubt over the country's electronic voting system

[–]Threwlys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This guy is the most disgraced, coward, stupid, illiterate politician. He destroyed the economy to coma! Companies like Sony got out from that shithole country. Nowadays he has just 30% from voters since his election.

[–]StoneBailiff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Must be why they call him the Trump of the tropics...

[–]hapsuel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He is suggesting and encouraging a Jan 6 situation in Brazil for months now

[–]Tahj42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fascists questioning the legitimacy of the electoral system right before they need to be re-elected. Color me surprised.

In fact I'm pretty sure that's just dog-whistling to assess how much fascist support he would have for a coup.

[–]Zixinus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Remember, any election result where I don't win is stolen!"

[–]TheYokedYeti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s the Donald Trump move. It’s a dictator move for like the last 50 years

[–]PDT_FSU95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seen this before..where was that (feverishly checks notes)

[–]DirectCalligrapher72 1 point2 points  (0 children)

team china, he is not team america anymore

[–]Warglebargle2077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that sign language interpreter might need an exorcist…

[–]maxwell_haus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s like Dumb and Dumber

[–]oldtownmaine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why does the person doing sign language look like he’s trying to make angry cat hand shadows

[–]Thatswutshesed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A page out of the Trump 2020 playbook.. Sadly he won’t be the last as moving forward politicians around the world will use this playbook to “win” their lost elections. Luckily the US had just enough men and woman with integrity in the process to keep it from happening however many countries around the world (including the US) are filled with correct politicians and processes where they will get away with it.. Although the world has been filled with corruption since the beginning of time it certainly appears corruption has leveled up.

[–]shwetkunds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Every nation likes to pull a trump once a while

[–]fermat1432 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's using that well-known Trump election playbook.

[–]kyogenm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trump mode. They’re besties right?

[–]SwampTerror 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's disturbing how few of these monsters die.

[–]oakstave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We also had fascist traitors to the flag do this in the United States, with Russian assistance. The Senate did a full report on Moscow's efforts to degrade elections. I assume Bolsonaro is a Trump fan?

[–]LiterallynamedCorbin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I’ve seen this one before

[–]Anonymous_Dude01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trump's "Big Lie" has given a lot of these authoritarians & wannabe authoritarians the carte blanche justification & support they needed to promote such ideas & spread misinformation. I mean, if the President of the world's oldest democracy, the leader of the free world can do this, why not them? Bolsanaro isn't alone, a lot of others have taken the cue.

The worst part is, just because better minds & the Constitution prevailed in the US, same can't be said about these countries. Their courts, legislatures, Constitution, media, and the whole political setup isn't anywhere close to US'. The Great Experiment may have managed to survive & continue in the US, but it probably wouldn't, if same things were to happen, in a lot of these other countries.

[–]Valtar99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like he’s playing his Trump card

[–]High0ne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

seemed to be fine when he got elected

[–]ChoSubin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hilarious. The same electoral system that has been electing him for decades now is a fraud.

[–]inerfaveL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sounds right for france24 saying right wing will lose

[–]emote_control 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doesn't he have about 40 lbs of shitting to do? Why is he wasting his time running for office again when he should be concentrating on not turning into a meaty fecal balloon?

[–]MathematicianOwn7704 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Play the Trump card much?

[–]TheJohnsonMember 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds familiar.

[–]dwarfstar2054 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aww little baby wannabe dictator taking after his big brother Trump. Adorable.

[–]Fluffytheterrible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He better not pull any sort of stunt, and if he does the people shouldn’t let him near power ever again.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol this dude does whatever trump does, just a few months behind.

[–]Theblokeonthehill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bolsonaro is just running the Trump playbook. Meanwhile, I hear that the other farkwit in the UK is not going away quietly. BoJo is invoking another Trumpism and is claiming that the “deep state” is going to get the UK to rejoin Europe now that he is gone. Trumpism has become a global stain on democracy.

[–]toughtittie5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right wing populists are sore losers with fragile egos and are always a threat to Democracy