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[–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (8 children)

Hello everyone, apologies for the late report. I would like to say I was catching up on seasonals but I fell asleep on the couch instead

August Mod Report

August by the Numbers

  • Total traffic: 28137401 pageviews, 3902707 unique pageviews
  • Total posts: 10772, 6912 unique authors
  • Total comments: 205539, 33719 unique authors (excluding mod bots)
  • Removed posts: 1044 by moderators, 6132 by bots, 7043 distinct
  • Removed comments: 2044 by moderators, 2900 by bots, 4592 distinct
  • Approved posts: 2033
  • Approved comments: 2949
  • Distinguished comments: 1463
  • Users banned: 110 (78 permanent, 0 by BotDefense)
  • Users unbanned: 1
  • Admin/Anti-Evil Operations: removed posts: 16, removed comments: 77.

[–]mekerpan 1 point2 points  (4 children)

No thread up for the final episode of Spy Classroom....

(HiDive never seems to have explained why this started streaming later than usual).

[–]cppn02 1 point2 points  (3 children)

[–]mekerpan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Weird. I searched the sub using both "spy" and "kyoushitsu" (past 24 hours) -- and nothing. Maybe just a search glitch?

Thanks.

[–]FetchFroshhttps://anilist.co/user/Fetch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of time the search can be weird about stuff that's recent relative to the search. So like stuff from today might not come up searching past week or month. Probably same sort of deal, just on a shorter timespan.

[–]cppn02 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I usually just go to the bot's profile. That's the easiest way.

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Could the mods explain why this chain got removed? Is this not precisely the thread for that?

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Hey Blackheart595,

The comment has now been approved. I can't personally speak to why the comment chain was removed (we're all in different time-zones and sometimes it's difficult to get an immediate answer) but I can promise you it was not due to maliciousness.

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha, I was actually wondering if autoflagging or some such was going on.

[–]Spiritual_Outcome_82 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Hi I'm mostly new to Reddit, my account it's not new but I don't really use it, so I'm learning about karma right know, I can't post I think because of my low karma, the question is does this community has a minimum required karma for posting and so how can I a make some karma if a can't post?

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey Spiritual_Outcome_82,

We do indeed require users to actively participate in the /r/anime community before making posts.

As a form of protection against bots and spam, we do not allow users to make posts on /r/anime until they have accumulated 10 comment karma from participating in other /r/anime discussions. Certain posts though are exempt from this such as Help posts or What to Watch posts. If you would rather not create a post for a simple question though, please use the Daily Anime Questions, Recommendations, and Discussion thread instead (it is the first pinned post on /r/anime).

However, it's easy enough to earn 10 comment karma. Just participate in any discussion! Jump into the aforementioned thread up above or really any thread in the sub that interests you. Pretty soon, you should have at least 10 comment karma.

[–]Spiritual_Outcome_82 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sorry for the inconveniences, and thank you in advance for anyone willing to respond <3

[–]mr_beanoz 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Is there any way for me to share this poll on this sub?

Poll

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Hey mr_beanoz,

Polls like yours are allowed if you make them as a text post that includes the poll link. We just don't allow direct poll links as a submission.

[–]mr_beanoz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I think I'll do it like Fetch did

[–]tiny_nipples 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Is there a way I can manually hide Discussion posts, since it's not an option under the "Post filters" dropdown menu?

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 2 points3 points  (1 child)

[–]tiny_nipples 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I exclusively use old Reddit, so this did the trick. Thanks!

[–]cppn02 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Have the mods given any thought yet to the Frieren premiere? It was conceptualised as one long special episode but Crunchyroll as already announced they'll split it into four episodes.

I know the policy is usually to follow how it is released but there is precedent like the Kaguya-sama movie which also got a single thread when it was released on streaming despite CR splitting that into four episodes too.

It's only anecdotal but from the comments I've seen it feels like the majority would prefer one single thread rather than spreading the discussion over four seperate ones when the many if not most people will watch it in a single sitting.

[–]Jegge_100 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would rather have a single thread as it is only one episode regadless how CR relesesses it.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Crunchyroll has been inconsistent with their wording so we actually have no idea what's going on with Frieren yet. This post states:

The first four episodes of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End premiere on Crunchyroll in just one week!

While this one says:

After a special two-hour premiere on September 29, Frieren: Beyond Journey's End begins its regular broadcast on October 06, 2023, and the series will also stream on Crunchyroll.

I think what we're going to do is just disable the bot for the first week of this series and then just wait and see how CR posts the episodes. If it's one long 2 hour episode then yeah, we'll manually post one long thread. If it's multiple episodes then it makes sense to create multiple threads like normal.

[–]SometimesMainSupport 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Would prefer one thread as well. Releasing in a movie timeslot makes it clearly intended to be watched in full.

[–]ivo0009 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I strongly second this! Why spread the discussion When the episode(s) is supposed to be watched in one go

[–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 5 points6 points  (14 children)

Can I get the reasoning as to why my comment was removed?

The mod said this comment received 3 reports for heavy spoilers but I'm genuinely an anime only and I made that comment with context to the ones above mine and also based on the paths the characters took until now.

[–]SnabDedraterEdave 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Believe me, you're not the only anime-only who has ended up on the wrong side of the mods' excessively zealous policing of what constitutes as spoilers. And you will not be the last.

I am an anime-only for Mushoku Tensei, and my comment in the episode thread for the season finale last Sunday was removed because of one character description, which I genuinely did not know was a spoiler until the mod told me it was when I asked him why it was removed.

So in a way, it was the mod who spoiled that fact for me, rather than me doing the spoiling.

I had to remove the supposedly offending sentence to get my post restored, but the entire experience left a bitter taste in my mouth and I specifically opened a mod mail politely but firmly giving the mods a piece of my mind regarding this matter.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Your comment has been restored. Apologies that this happened and that it makes you not want to engage with the episode threads anymore.

Your comment is so broad that I don't really think it matters whether or not you guess correctly here. [MT] I think it is obvious that Eris comes back eventually, so it's not like you're actually spoiling anything major. But at the same time it's a pretty tough line for us to walk because we rely so heavily on user reports, so I can understand why your comment was mistakenly removed. If no one on the team has read the material then we have no choice but to trust the user reports to catch spoilers. It's also hard when we have bad actors (both literally and figuratively) not-so-subtly "predicting" what comes next in the show - which makes us skeptical of when people do actually predict things correctly. But that in it of itself is a flaw in our system and our stance on spoilers. Which we fully realize but can't do much of anything about right now.

Again - apologies. But I hope that clears things up for you. Let me know if you have any other questions/comments.

[–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Thank you for your response and your thoughts behind this action. Yeah it does clears things up.

I do understand your troubles. Source readers hinting stuff is genuinely an issue which ended up ruining things for anime-onlies who do want to analyze or predict things either as a joke or whatever.

If no one on the team has read the material then we have no choice but to trust the user reports to catch spoilers

In that case don't you have anyone outside of the mod team that you really trust and request their help to verify if a comment is really a spoiler or not, or is that not allowed?

EDIT: While I did say in the heat of the moment that I won't participate in the threads, but now with enough time passed, I think I probably will participate but I don't think I'll very active in there as I used to be.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In that case don't you have anyone outside of the mod team that you really trust and request their help to verify if a comment is really a spoiler or not, or is that not allowed?

We can certainly ask for second opinions - if we know who to ask (sometimes individual mods will ask in mod chats if we should consider something a spoiler or not, as the line can get pretty blurry at times). But we don't really know of any singular dedicated person who reads the source material for all of the popular shows, and obviously that pool of popular shows changes every 3 months, so there's no guarantee that people will be up-to-date with every popular show every season. And while this may seem obvious, most people in the anime community are primarily interested in anime, which means that adjacent activities take a back seat. Not to say that we don't have people in the community who read manga/LN's, but their knowledge of that medium is rarely as extensive.

I'm sure we could ask the community on Discord or something if we really wanted to, but we also don't want to leave ostensible spoilers hanging out in the open for too long in the event that we don't get much of a response. In addition, it is simply not feasible for us to ask about every spoiler in every show - so we have to make judgement calls. Sometimes we make wrong calls, which is what happened with you.

Either way, it is a very tricky balancing act to both keep the community safe while also being fair with how we do that. There is no easy solution here, and once again I'm sorry that you got caught in that crossfire. I hope that we can find a way to improve our system so that this doesn't happen anymore, but as long as we moderate spoilers the way that we do, we're bound to get a handful of wrongful removals.

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Ouch, that's my genuine fear when it comes to episode discussion threads where the show has a source material, as the only two series I am a source reader for are Attack on Titan and Jujutsu Kaisen. Bleach is the one I'm most scared about, as I was so weirdly good at predicting that show in the 2020 rewatch (in which I was a first-timer) that the other participants started calling me "genderbent Tite Kubo with amnesia". Heck I even predicted something in the current season a few episodes early with a joke, just like you apparently did.

Sorry your comment got removed.

[–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Had it been my own fault, like if I was actually a source reader and trying to hint stuff, I would accept the blame. But here I was an anime-only and was just making an observation/joke after seeing the comment replies. Situations like these just makes not want to engage in discussion threads anymore.

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 5 points6 points  (2 children)

And now you know your joke is something that actually ends up happening thanks to those reports, meaning it extra sucks for your comment to have been removed.

[–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah now I can say I truly get what you felt when you were accurately predicting Bleach plot points and people were not trusting you lol.

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh it's not that the people in the rewatch didn't trust me, they just thought it would be funny to joke about that. And it was a funny running joke, especially when you consider one of the "weirdly good" ways I predicted something in the original series was by literally dreaming I was watching a future episode of the show, and the big twist in my dream episode ended up happening in the show (just with a few details different), and I had this dream about 150 episodes ahead of when the twist happened in the show.

It's just that the airing discussion threads for TYBW obviously have a different vibe than a tightly-knit rewatch, hence why I'm now scared I'll say something that sounds a little too accurate to future source material and get reported.

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That's why I haven't bothered with episode threads for the last couple of years. The spoiler rules here (or their enforcement if you want to be pedantic) inhibit genuine, unspoiled, anime-only discussion when it dares to actually engage with the story.

[–]SnabDedraterEdave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally put the words in my mouth and speaks for all of us genuine anime-onlies who had our comments wrongfully removed for supposed spoilers. How can we even spoil something we don't even know? The whole over-policing over this is inane.

Just segregate the anime-onlies and source readers into two separate threads and be done with it. Its not like Reddit's servers are finite as not to be able to accommodate an extra thread when u/spez is so filthy greedy about wanting us users to contribute more content.

[–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah as an anime-only it really sucks. Its hard engage in theorycrafting if your comment ends up being close to the truth. After all not everytime its a source reader hinting stuff (and let's admit it, they tend to be far more blatant).

[–]cppn02 7 points8 points  (1 child)

1) Also anime only here and I never would have assumed that to be an actual spoiler rather than just a joke until it was removed by a mod citing 'massive spoilers'.

2) Funny how one of the replies quoted you and that didn't get removed.

[–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah I definitely was treating it as a joke + random observation.

IMO the mods should definitely cross-check the reports or something similar before removing the comments. The reports can easily be abused by targeting an innocuous comment if its by someone that a person don't like. What I'm specifically mad about is that I am spoiled about something without it being my fault.

Funny how one of the replies quoted you and that didn't get removed.

Yeah that was even more funnier lol.

[–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Why do people put multiple comments in the same episode discussion threads

[–]cppn02 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It's the people that don't understand reddit and see it like it like tik tok or twitter. And I guess a minority of them also try to double dip for karma.

[–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely think its because of karma farming and not treating Reddit like TikTok or Twitter. If you check the profiles of those people you'll see they are not really new to Reddit.

I once accused one of them for karma farming and they responded with "Shut up and mind my own business" and then blocked me after a few minutes.

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 5 points6 points  (0 children)

lol the mt thread has two users with 5-6 comments each (and another ~10 with 2-3), basically live reactions. Other people do that, but have the decency of putting them in a single comment

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Just wanted to provide a quick update and say that the 8mil quiz is actually coming tomorrow at midnight UTC! I sorta forgot how timezones work and thought that Friday in UTC would also be Friday in the US.

[–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 4 points5 points  (1 child)

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

[–]SpaceForceOnehttps://anilist.co/user/fonk 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Are there any links to this subs current user demographic? I recall seeing something posted during the third-party app-ocalypse just before the summer. If memory serves, it noted the vast majority of accounts indicated users being males of ages 17-24, or figures close to that. If these details cannot be shared at this level, I completely understand, so no worries. Thanks

edited for brevity

[–]SometimesMainSupport 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Closest you'll probably get is the seasonal survey responses (e.g. Spring 2023 results). Obviously has self-selection bias for who will take the time to answer the survey.

[–]CosmicPenguin_OV103https://anilist.co/user/CosmicPenguin 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Just wanna leave a "Thank You" note to all moderators who are currently battling with people trying to spoil things in the Jujutsu Kaisen episode threads. This spoiling was absolutely insane (I think reactions were even more than back when the last chapter(s) of Attack On Titan were leaked, given the nature of this leak) and I - an anime-only watcher of JJK - was quickly spoiled on Wednesday. Luckily I don't really care too much of things happening way beyond the anime without context. But others certainly aren't as lucky.

This is gonna be very difficult in the next few weeks at least. Good luck, may the deity of moderation be with you.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks, this means a lot to see! The spoilers around this show do seem extra pernicious, but it helps that we have a few manga readers on the team. We'll do our best. Just continue to report to help us with visibility and we'll do the rest.

[–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 10 points11 points  (4 children)

I'd like to understand the reasoning behind this removal. The removed comment was just #mug1 with no alt-text or any other content.

I cannot think of a reason why simply posting a comment face associated with the show the parent comment is talking about could be a spoiler. It's basically just an acknowledgement that you read the parent comment and were interested by it.

If there is a good reason behind this removal, I would like to hear it. If not, I would like to understand how this comment got removed in the first place.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Just wanted to provide an update and say that both the comment and reply in question has now been approved. We're attempting to follow up internally with the moderator in question so that we can get a better idea of what the thought process was like here.

[–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the update.

[–]Tresnoremyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't understand it either. It's just responding to a post about that show with a commentface from that show. If I reply to a Symphogear post with [](#megadeathparty) or to a Yamato post with [](#goblet1), is that also grounds for deletion?

[–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Their reply to Gallow's removal was also deleted. I am seriously struggling to think of any reason that could justify its removal. Disagreeing with a mod removing your comment is not grounds for deletion. Their comment was in no way offensive. It did not attack Gallow, but merely expressed surprise and disagreement with the situation.

Mods removing disagreement with their decisions is an absolutely horrible look for anything short of personal attacks or other offensive content. It looks as if said mod would rather try to shove their decision under the rug than engage with it. It's the sort of mod action that implies that, no matter how poor a decision they initially made, the mod will always stick with it instead of being open to the possibility that they were in error.

[–]Elitealicehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Marinate1016 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still feel the “this comment belongs in the source corner” rules are too stringent but I doubt they’ll change

[–]KendotsXhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Kendots 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Hey guys, can we get some threads for Phoenix Eden17?

It got dropped as a 4 episodes batch on Hulu a couple hours ago.

[–]badsplerx3https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

[–]KendotsXhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Kendots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Just noticed a [help] thread that should've been [discussion], only to check op's submission history and see that they skirted around the karma requirement.
Has it happened often and I never really noticed, or is it a rare occurrence not worth thinking about?
I reported the incorrect flair before I thought of checking the user; is it enough as it's something you normally check, or would you rather have a custom report specifying it?

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Ah, so you stumbled upon the unintended loophole in our karma requirement.

I would say that I come across this issue about twice a week, so it does happen to some extent but not so much that we’re deeply concerned about it.

or would you rather have a custom report specifying it?

Either one will be fine but specificity in reporting really does help us in our job! Regardless, we do skim through Help/What to Watch posts from users with less than 10-karma ourselves, so hopefully we can spot these posts before other users need to.

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 3 points4 points  (0 children)

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 7 points8 points  (3 children)

So out of curiosity, how many coins do you guys have left to spend?

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

  • AutoLovepon: 0
  • AnimeMod: 5
  • Subreddit: 300 (which we can't use because the minimum for a mod award that draws from that pool is 1800)

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

glad it all got sorted at the end!

please take some silver for your efforts! i wonder what's next in store for us here lol in terms of gilding and stuff.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

ahahhahaha, thank you very much autolovepon.

[–]Puddohttps://anilist.co/user/Puddo 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Is there a reason why the posts about Buichi Terasawa passing away keep getting removed? I get that he was primarily a manga artist but I would say that the passing of the original creator of multiple anime is pretty anime specific? Just like it has been in the past with Monkey Punch, Kazuo Koike, Kazuki Takahashi, Leiji Matsumoto, Nami Sano and many more. Terasawa apparently even directed one of the Space Cobra anime himself.

If this matter is up in the air at the moment I do think with an eye on the future that it's a good idea to take a look at it. Anime and manga are still fairly young mediums all things considered. However, we're now in an age where those creators of franchises that got people into Japanese media in the first place are getting up there in age. I get that you don't want the sub to be full with random mangaka updates. You've other subs for that. However if there is one thing that deserves less strict rules in my eyes then it's their passing. Cause afterall without them we would have never gotten those anime and it's also a moment to remember and celebrate their works in all its forms. Anyway I at least think it's a good idea to look at it so there is a consistent line.

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Y'know, I think you make a great point Puddo. We (and by we, I'm also including me since I removed one as well) should have allowed those posts to stay. We misjudged the situation and I apologize for not giving it as much thought as you clearly did.

In the future, we'll make a more conscious effort to make sure posts of these natures stay up on our sub.

[–]Ocixohttps://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Is there any indication that there’s an increase in bot activity on this sub?

I’ve noticed more blatant bots in the last month or so - especially in the smaller episode threads - but things were a little crazy just now. Three bots, which I all reported and got quickly removed (thanks!), all replied to this comment of mine in the Masamune’s Revenge R episode thread. One of these bots even had the audacity to steal one of my comments to reply back to me (haha)!

[–]AmusedDragon[M] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

BotDefense used to call these out but that is no longer functional so it's up to reports at this point.

I don't think it's an increase, just that they aren't caught as easily now.

[–]Ocixohttps://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It sure is great that Reddit effectively killed these tools, but didn’t do anything to replace them…

[–]Verzwei 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don't worry though, if Reddit did try to replace the tools, they'd be opaque as fuck, and most likely not be usable.

Doesn't matter, mods are just landed gentry and not actually doing things for their communities, so why should they have tools to protect those communities? /s

[–]Verzwei 7 points8 points  (1 child)

IIRC a lot of the third-party anti-bot tools/accounts that moderators could utilize to identify comment copying bots were wiped out or otherwise lost functionality when the API restrictions that also killed third-party apps went into place. There used to be a lot of stuff that was quickly auto-flagged for the queue and only required a human to double check for accuracy and then ban the bot. Unless those (good) bots are somehow still running since I stepped down, then there's probably a lot less "background protection" against those copy bots than there used to be.

[–]Ocixohttps://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah, that would make a lot of sense yeah. Most of the bots I encountered were indeed those copy bots

[–]cppn02 3 points4 points  (4 children)

So what's up with Gamera Rebirth? It's been out for about a day now and I also sent a mod message yesterday but we got no episode discussion post yet.

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Thanks for the heads-up cppn02, they have now been posted.

[–]cppn02 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I guess it doesn't matter at this point (and I feel I would be the only one posting in it anway) but I only just realised that the episode 6 thread got deleted too. As the finale shouldn't it have stayed and only 2-5 deleted?

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Ah, you know what, that is actually my bad. The final thread should have remained standing alongside the first and the megathread. I’ll re-approve the post, thanks for notifying me of this.

[–]cppn02 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thx

[–]SnuggleMuffin42https://myanimelist.net/profile/Animemes_chan 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Hi, wanna talk about the removal of this post:

What's the best source material you read after watching the anime?

The mod in the removal reply said it's not about anime, as people talked for the most part about the source material.

I disagree.

The post (with its 70 comments - prior to the quick removal) dealt only with sources of something that's already broadcasted as anime. Almost every comment that wasn't just a name said how they felt the source related to the anime they watched, what parts were covered, and what was better or worse.

For me, the point was first and foremost finding new anime to watch - just with the hopes that if catches my eye, it will also have great follow up to go to. So the purpose it served for me (and others too) was as an anime recommendation post, just from another angle.

Last point - I think r/anime is the best, and only venue for this discussion. This isn't about manga or LN (there were even VN recommendations) - it's only about anime that was adapted from them. So I wanted the recommendation of people who watched the anime, that can recommend both.

This post is probably dead if not reinstated in the next few hours.. But I hope future posts will get to see the light of day. I think there was a really interesting discussion of anime fans and for anime fans - the point of r/anime to begin with.

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Hey SnuggleMuffin42,

I was one of the mods involved in the discussion regarding the removal of your post. Hours later, I still respectfully stand by my decision to support its removal. I'd like to address a few of your concerns point-by-point so that by the end, we can hopefully gain a better understanding of each other's reasoning.

Almost every comment that wasn't just a name said how they felt the source related to the anime they watched, what parts were covered, and what was better or worse.

You're right in that many of the comments that took the time to elaborate on their responses also mentioned what made the anime better or worst. However, due to the nature of your post, most of the answers were also primarily focused on the quality of the source material rather than the anime itself. Even if the responses discussed a comparison point, a strong portion of them were attentive to how much better/worse the source material was.

Last point - I think r/anime is the best, and only venue for this discussion.

So, in the past, we've occasionally seen users post threads asking which manga they'd like to see adapted into an anime. Responses to these threads often veer in the opposite direction of yours, with answers speculating on the potential quality of the hypothetical anime adaptation.

We still remove those posts too.

In order to maintain consistency in our approach, we remove posts that veer towards any source material discussion under our currently established rules. Back in ye olde days, there were many posts on /r/anime about the general culture of anime and things anime fans might also like, such as other cartoons, manga, and video games. Given the ease of subscribing to multiple subreddits combined with the fact that we wanted /r/anime to focus on the discussion of anime, we added this rule and narrowed the focus from otaku culture to specifically anime. To reiterate, r/anime is specifically focused on Japanese animation and posts that deviate from this are to be removed—even if the responses are primarily focused on the anime itself.

The post (with its 70 comments - prior to the quick removal) dealt only with sources of something that's already broadcasted as anime.

You mentioned that your post became quite popular and, therefore, should be allowed to remain. I can understand this viewpoint: if the community is actively participating in the thread, it might seem like a net positive. However, I don't believe that the sheer number of comments in a thread necessarily indicates its value. Some threads with comments in the single digits offer more insight than those with thousands of comments. Building on my earlier point, I don't believe a post that has violated the rules should be allowed to stay up merely because it has gained traction.

But I hope future posts will get to see the light of day. I think there was a really interesting discussion of anime fans and for anime fans - the point of r/anime to begin with.

I'd like to end on a positive note though and share that there is some good news! We're currently discussing the possibility of "loosening" the rules to allow posts like yours to be shared. Please hang tight and check the subreddit for if and when we'll announce these changes.

[–]SnuggleMuffin42https://myanimelist.net/profile/Animemes_chan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the thorough reply MyrnaMountWeazel. I understand it doesn't fit under the current r/anime rules/enforcement (or at least, it's a marginal case), but I do think it should be allowed in the future.

It seems that it's due to historical reasons, but I think a lot has change from those days. Recent moves you (the mod team) made have favored discussions over other media (and basically eliminated fanart). I think in this context, para-anime discussion (that still stays close to home) could also have some place.

I'll go over a few points from your reply:

You're right in that many of the comments that took the time to elaborate on their responses also mentioned what made the anime better or worst. However, due to the nature of your post, most of the answers were also primarily focused on the quality of the source material rather than the anime itself. Even if the responses discussed a comparison point, a strong portion of them were attentive to how much better/worse the source material was.

While that's naturally true, I think it's fine as long as it still grounded in relation to the anime. Even if it's 80-20% source-anime, I still think it's fine. Basically, I don't think the main weight must be on the anime in question, it's too purist. It directly relates to anime, and it's a viewpoint that is unique to anime watchers - it's framed through their eyes, not manga readers (for example).

So, in the past, we've occasionally seen users post threads asking which manga they'd like to see adapted into an anime. Responses to these threads often veer in the opposite direction of yours, with answers speculating on the potential quality of the hypothetical anime adaptation.

Honestly I think it's the other way around. That is conversation framed through the eyes of manga readers, and the subtext is anime. So even if it's 20-80% and this time, 80% is anime, the "speaker" is a manga reader. It's a fine distinction, but I think it makes sense. This discussion is for manga readers who are interested in anime, while mine was anime watchers talking about the source of their shows.

Back in ye olde days, there were many posts on /r/anime about the general culture of anime and things anime fans might also like, such as other cartoons, manga, and video games. Given the ease of subscribing to multiple subreddits combined with the fact that we wanted /r/anime to focus on the discussion of anime, we added this rule and narrowed the focus from otaku culture to specifically anime.

I agree with this, thanks for the context. I think my post was more "on-topic" though.

You mentioned that your post became quite popular and, therefore, should be allowed to remain.

Nah that was me being a bit pouty because I really liked the responses and thought it was a good discussion, I'm aware just popularity doesn't mean you won't get removed.


So again, thanks for the reply. I look forward to hearing what you come up with.

[–]SpaceForceOnehttps://anilist.co/user/fonk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Has anyone followed the development of the reddit-like web app, Discuit (presently at “discuit.net”), and it’s progressing third-party iOS app, Spirit? [Edit: actually, there seem to be a dozen third-party Android and iOS apps apps currently being developed for dedicated device access]

While I’m not officially affiliated with either, I have spent a little time checking things out as a basic user these last couple weeks. It’s a pretty clean experience quite similar to how one accessed reddit via Apollo before the fall.

Just wanted to mention it in case some of the mods, or anyone from our anime community, were still interested in viable alternatives.

That is all. (:

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 5 points6 points  (5 children)

On the topic of watch order wikis, the Hibike Euphonium section also needs updating with the new OVA; and S3 next year when it comes. New Ensemble-Contest OVA after Chikai no Finale, and S3 after that.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Noted. We shall make the proper adjustments when we have a spare moment.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits[M] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I've made the update myself here!

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Lmao thanks.

The long con: become a mod so that you can update the watch order wiki.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

[–]FlaminScribblenautmyanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol 6 points7 points  (13 children)

Minor Watch Order Wiki correction: the Aria section lists the 5-minute Natural special as coming after Natural and before Origination, when it should be after Animation and before Natural.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This has been updated :) Thanks for letting us know!

[–]M8gazinehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/M8gazine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only saw this now as I suddenly remembered the meta thread existed (after I saw someone get suggested they use it) and subsequently wondered about the Aria watch order, but thanks for letting them know about it!

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

I've been pretty busy making certain preparations but when I get a moment I'll be sure to give that a gander.

[–]SometimesMainSupport 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Had some time tonight:

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Updates made to Date A Live and Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention.

And special thanks so much again to /u/nazenn for helping out w/ updating the write-up and infographics for the LoTGH section!

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits[M] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Updated/added BanG Dream, Grimoire of Zero, Kaguya, Trigun and Wixoss sections.

Will be confirming w/ the other mods before editing Galactic Heroes (with other details need to be updated there too), and Date A Live; I'll edit this comment for any updates.

Thanks for letting us know :)

[–]SometimesMainSupport 2 points3 points  (3 children)

np. If you just need to know the DAL spoiler, [DAL]S4E11 includes Kurumi's spirit power origin. She kills an incomplete spirit that's revealed later that episode to be her best friend, Sawa (introduced that episode I think). Same best friend is the antagonist of the Bullet spinoffs.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits[M] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Thanks! I'll make sure to include that in.

Do you know what should be updated here as well for Galactic Heroes? Or I might just confirm with other mods/people i know are fans for that.

[–]SometimesMainSupport 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Haven't seen the original. Seiran 3 is the prequel for Collision, so should be directly after. (Believe they released Seiran 1-3 theatrically, then split into 4 "episodes" to cover 12 total. Two I listed are sequel "seasons" after further movie splits (see "synonyms" on their pages))

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll cross check with someone else. Thanks for all your help!

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 3 points4 points  (0 children)

thanks /u/aniMayor! can confirm the watch order by flaminscribblenaut here.

[–]Chukonoku 4 points5 points  (6 children)

So what happened with this:

" We haven't really decided anything yet, so if you have ideas feel free to share them. Admins have announced changes to Reddit gold/premium and awards."

Might as well give 1+ week of premium to most users or those who tend to organize things for the sub.

[–]MapoTofuManhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/BaronBrixius 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm still for a giant AMQ game to distribute whatever's left on the last day

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 4 points5 points  (0 children)

[–]cppn02 2 points3 points  (3 children)

There was a thread last week where they were throwing around gold and also said there'd be more until coins will shut down completely.

[–]SpecialFrosty1934 4 points5 points  (2 children)

They started that way too late. Reddit announced the change two months ago and the mods only come up with that two weeks before deadline?

No way they manage to use up all their coins in time.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

No way they manage to use up all their coins in time.

Considering I just spent a quarter of our total in the past 24 hours, I'm not too worried about that.

[–]SpecialFrosty1934 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh, right, fair enough, guess I was wrong.

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 12 points13 points  (9 children)

What are the mods' thoughts on how the cleanup of /new turned out? With WTW threads now getting exempt I feel like there wasn't much of a point to the change and I kinda see myself scanning /new less now than I used to, though I don't have the insight into what does get removed, especially now that pushshift is gone.

[–]FlaminScribblenautmyanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol 9 points10 points  (3 children)

With WTW threads now getting exempt

Wait what? I thought WTW threads were exactly the kind of spam we were trying to clean out of clogging /new as, like, the whole point of making such an endeavor in the first place??? Why would they do that?

[–]Verzwei 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Back when Duri and I were manually tracking all the posts caught in the community karma filter during its initial implementation, the vast majority of posts getting caught by the filter that were otherwise within our rules at the time and thus would have been allowed were [Help] and [What to Watch?] posts, so we voted to exempt those flairs from the filter so that people looking for a quick rec (or show identification) could get what they needed without having to jump through additional hoops.

WTW threads are often the first point of interaction from new users to the community and there's virtually zero quality control on any of them (even those from long-standing members) so it was hard to justify filtering only new users out in that manner. At least with Discussion-type posts, there are so many little rules and clauses and effort requirements that, when stacked up, a legitimate argument could be made that someone trying to post a Disc here should spend more time learning about the community instead of immediately blasting their (off-topic or low-quality) thoughts into the void via a low-effort post.

As for dealing with WTW posts themselves, some ideas had been kicked around in the past, including but not limited to:

  • Banning WTW posts entirely since there's a whole subreddit* dedicated to them and rec posts used to be prohibited on /r/anime years and years ago.
  • Setting a timer on WTW (and help) posts that auto-removed them after a certain amount of hours. The thought was that most of the good responses to such threads occur when the threads are newest and they don't get much activity as they fall down the page.
  • Implementing some kind of format or requirement for WTW posts that had to be followed, such as providing a list of anime OP has already seen (if they've seen any at all) and potentially also desired genre, setting, and/or length. Anything failing to follow the format would be subject to removal. The way /r/otomegames handles their recommendation posts was brought up by a user as an example.

None of those pitches seemed to gain enough traction or support to warrant fleshing out into a full proposal or vote, and some on the team were vehemently against implementing any sort of quality control on posts, so it felt like an uphill battle that ultimately wouldn't lead anywhere.

Personally, I fucking hate WTW posts - 95% of them are utterly pointless shallow requests that are better off being typed into Google. I feel like the Daily Thread is the best place for those kind of recommendations and has the side benefit of keeping the crap out of the main page and cluttering up new.

*Note: /r/Animesuggest had closed indefinitely for a while since the one moderator running it was primarily doing it from mobile apps that Reddit killed support for a couple months ago. The community is open again, but the entire moderation team is new. No idea if they are actual community members or just scabs that took over after Reddit started strong-arming their free labor force to continue to provide free labor with worse tools.

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Personally, I fucking hate WTW posts - 95% of them are utterly pointless shallow requests that are better off being typed into Google. I feel like the Daily Thread is the best place for those kind of recommendations and has the side benefit of keeping the crap out of the main page and cluttering up new.

I disabled that flair on all my platforms and still have to deal with some of them using the help flair

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well I say "now" but the decision was made in March

[–]SpecialFrosty1934 1 point2 points  (4 children)

cleanup of /new

?

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 2 points3 points  (3 children)

[–]SpecialFrosty1934 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Am I reading that wrong? Doesn't it say they decided they wouldn't do that?

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The initial idea as in that link was to apply the restriction to all the textual posts, but in March they decided to exempt What to Watch and Help posts

[–]SpecialFrosty1934 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, right, yeah, that's a bit odd.

[–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Had there been any further discussion about prospective migration away from Reddit? It will never be an overnight thing, but if there's any intent it probably need some persistent and long term planning.

As a recipient of random shadow banning, I certainly would be keen to migrate away.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

To be rather blunt, I personally don't think reddit alternatives like Lemmy/kbin currently have all the features we'd need, much less want in the long term. We also have very little capacity available for expanding on those — particularly since those two are built on technology stacks we're collectively less experienced with — or maintaining our own site.

Maybe that could change if we had more technically-oriented mods on the team (mod apps open now) but as it is we're stretched pretty thin already. It took us two weeks to get the flair site back up recently and most of that work was done by /u/eritbh anyway rather than any current sub mods.

[–]eritbhhttps://anilist.co/user/eritbh 16 points17 points  (0 children)

(And half of the work you thought I did wasn't even done by me, but by my girlfriend who asked what I was doing and made me give her the repo links so she could write Dockerfiles for me...)

(who thought it was a good idea for a subreddit to have upwards of 20 git repos in the first place? --oh right that was me wasn't it)

[–]FetchFroshhttps://anilist.co/user/Fetch 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not anything meaningful.

[–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 12 points13 points  (27 children)

I'm a big fan of the source material corner, heck I think the penalty for breaking it should be higher, seen so many repeat offenders.

Source readers are literally the #1 reason I don't look through discussion threads as much anymore and I probably report 10-15 a week easy...

[–]JustAnswerAQuestionhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel a little paranoid about commenting on future arcs from the previous tv series (in spoiler tags, of course) in the kenshin threads, but nobody's reported me yet.

[–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 6 points7 points  (6 children)

While I agree they are needed and is a very useful mechanism, and I definitely agree there are repeat offenders, I would also like to point out in some less trafficked threads, the level of enforcement was perhaps excessive and disproportionate - e.g. a very general comment about the source manga art style, without any reference to any plot or character elements, still got deleted for needing to go to the source corner.

Basically I think it's definitely my preference to keep the structure, but ideally the enforcement method may need adjusting (up and down as applicable to situations).

Disclaimer I generally don't hang around the "big" shows like AoT and One Piece etc.

[–]SometimesMainSupport 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lax enforcement for smaller shows has been my preference for a while. I don't find comparison comments obtrusive when there's already limited interaction/discussion and, in my experience, source readers for less popular shows tend to be more familiar with and respectful of subreddit rules (or maybe their comments get yeeted before I see them).

I do understand that clearly defined rules are easier to enforce and avoid favoritism accusations (e.g. "Why does X comment remain while mine was removed?").

[–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I'm with you in that there are some good source comments that can be made but that's then putting a lot on the mods on what toes the line and what doesn't. In a perfect world I'd want the "good" ones to stay but it's a lot easier for mods to remove anything source related with no grey zone.

[–]entelechtual 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I don’t really see the issue if it’s not spoiler-y or “hint”-y. After all, it’s not Source Reader corner as it is in the Shingeki no Kyojin subreddit, where even if you’re not hinting at spoilers, you can’t post in the anime-only thread if you’ve indicated you’ve read the source material previously.

The main and only benefit of the source material corner to me is that people won’t idly talk about just the source material and not comment on the anime at all. Which, in any case, isn’t particularly ideal to have on an anime subreddit. It would be one thing if people had been allowed to post untagged spoilers but those still get removed.

The Ryza anime threads are a good example for why it doesn’t make sense with the current rules. You should be able to discuss current/past game events and comparisons openly in the thread, that’s a big draw of the show. But you shouldn’t be discussing future events, hinting at outcomes, or discussing major skipped content.

As far as the mods removing stuff, I think there’s already enough lack of compliance/enforcement that I don’t think it would adversely affect anything. If anything it can be a plus; under the current model there are effectively no tagged spoilers in episode threads. Source readers comment thinking this is probably vague enough that it won’t count as a spoiler. If people were able to discuss source material and spoilers while tagging it as such, instead of posting in an often little used Source Corner, they might be less likely to post vague spoiler-not-spoiler comments untagged.

[–]cppn02 9 points10 points  (2 children)

You should be able to discuss current/past game events and comparisons openly in the thread, that’s a big draw of the show.

Not for anime-onlies though.
I complained about the discussion threads of game adaptations before (and Ryza wasn't even the worst of the lot) but personally I want to talk about the show I am watching and half or more of the comments talking about the game makes the thread kinda pointless for me.

In theory you are not wrong that it should be possible to talk about the game but if the balance is off it sucks all the fun away for anime-onlies.

[–]entelechtual 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I think it is somewhat inevitable when there is a significantly different experience between the source and anime. Games aside, I enjoy seeing just comparisons of the manga panels and anime even if I haven’t read it.

This is the top comment in the latest Ryza ep—most of the replies aren’t even about the episode at all. But as long as the parent comment is about the anime, it’s usually easy enough to find anime talk. I can see it either way though, with it getting out of hand.

For me at least, I would only be annoyed if people used the anime episodes as an excuse to unrelatedly talk about the latest manga chapter. And I think having unregulated spoilers and hints is way more annoying. I think there should be a rule of thumb that if you’re not writing something an anime-only would write, then spoiler tag it.

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think there should be a rule of thumb that if you’re not writing something an anime-only would write, then spoiler tag it.

Asking for common sense? Preposterous

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 11 points12 points  (16 children)

So, there are several reasons for why we started a discussion on possibly removing the Source Material Corner. The biggest one for me, however, is the current accessibility problem that is affecting new.Reddit users.

Right now, there is a bug going around in new.Reddit where users cannot reply to stickied comments in the threads. This means it is impossible for source readers to discuss any comparison aspects in a sequestered space.

Until Reddit fixes the problem, this will become a headache for us to solve and so we began preliminary discussions on how to proceed.

[–]chilidirigible 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Right now, there is a bug going around in new.Reddit where users cannot reply to stickied comments in the threads.

Reddit, working as well as always.

[–]Tarhalindur 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I wonder if it might be time to retry the split threads solution that was tried with Higurashi Gou (at least for shows expected to be reasonably popular and/or have people who actually read the source), having First-Timer Only threads for the true first-timers and Source Reader threads for the people familiar with the source material (and/or past adaptations, hi new Spice and Wolf). I wonder if it might work better when tried with something that doesn't turn out to be setting the "how to handle the Source Material Corner" difficulty to Lunatic Mode (cough "surprise it's a Rebuild-style stealth sequel that will spoil you on the original and also there's the VN/OG anime shear and the semi-sequel VNs are relevant" cough).

[–]Elitealicehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Marinate1016 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This would be ideal. Doubt they do it tho

[–]FaithlessnessPlus784 3 points4 points  (4 children)

This means it is impossible for source readers to discuss any comparison aspects in a sequestered space.

I mean, they can always just use old.reddit.com (and hopefully never switch back). Just mention it in the stickied comment in case some people don't know about it.

[–]Verzwei 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Nobody should be using new.reddit or the mobile app, but unfortunately a lot of people do, and we old.reddit users can't stop them.

[–]JoshFB4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A true tragedy of our times.

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Hey, I’m a card-carrying member of old.Reddit myself! But unfortunately this problem even extends to the official mobile app as well. And we all know that in the year of our Lord 2023, there’s unfortunately a limited number of options for Reddit mobile apps…

[–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just putting it out there, I'm a primarily movie user but I absolutely refused to use the official app. I'm just on mobile web and occasionally switch to old.reddit to see comment face etc.

But I understand I'm probably a very small minority.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 5 points6 points  (4 children)

so to clarify, does that mean that source material comparisons etc. will be allowed in the main thread itself? kinda like how rewatch threads work.

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

We haven’t yet worked out the finer details on how it’ll all shake out but we would still require all source discussion to be tagged.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 5 points6 points  (2 children)

fair enough

has this bug been reported to the admins? im guessing yes.

i mostly visit smaller ep threads for shows these days so it probably wont affect me toooo much, but yeah for bigger shows....

and i just feel like it'll give you guys more work lol.

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

has this bug been reported to the admins? im guessing yes.

 

admins

Now which one of the commentfaces most resembles that laughing dog emote.

This one will do.

I joke, I joke. The admins have been notified of the problem from various mods from other communities and they have stated they are working on a solutionTM.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 6 points7 points  (0 children)

laughing dog emote

ty for the update!

[–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 3 points4 points  (2 children)

So potentially no more source corner anymore but we still don't allow source reader comments?

Or would getting rid of the corner mean source readers get to go wild? Implying they already don't

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

We’re still tinkering with the finer details but essentially yes, we would still stipulate that any source discussion must still be spoiler-tagged.

[–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's a relief at least.

Don't think it'll change much in the end as somehow source readers can read everything but rules...

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx2myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits 5 points6 points  (1 child)

seconded here. I guess maybe in the big shows (im thinking AOT, MT, Kaguya etc.) it gets followed a bit less? Which means mods might think its not effective? But that's probably just coz of the sheer number of people commenting there. And removing it will probably make it worse, not better.

Or is there some alternative the mods are proposing i guess

[–]JustAnswerAQuestionhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

guess maybe in the big shows

Maybe we have like the signs near speed traps and schools: enahanced enforcement area for shows that are expected to be or have been problematic.

I'm sure a sliding scale like that would be decried as unfair, though.