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In an earlier discussion, related to Pascal's Wager, I said that people can't choose to believe something. I'd like to clarify my thoughts on that.

Rand said that the one fundamental choice is the choice to think or not. I don't know of anything she said giving her reasoning behind that, but it's plausible to me. More precisely, the choice runs along a continuum from being totally unfocused to being in the sharpest possible focus, and one can choose among multiple options to focus on.

Our thought processes are the basis for our choices. Apart from the reasons for an action, choices would be little more than mental coin-flipping. Most of our actions aren't of deep philosophical importance by themselves, but they're the product of our thinking about what we want and how we can get it. For instance, thinking about the food in the refrigerator, preferred foods, and other scheduled items could lead a person to decide to go shopping today or wait until later. Thinking about how tiring it would be might lead to a different choice.

Belief doesn't work the same way. It's a more direct product of thought processes. A person can't just say, "Today I'll believe in God" in the same sense that one would say, "Today I'll buy pickled Brussels sprouts."

However, there is a sense in which a person can choose to believe, and it's relevant to Pascal's Wager. A person can repeatedly say, "I believe X. I do believe." It can be a spoken declaration or an internal thought. People do this when they want to be accepted by society or to escape punishment for heresy. Someone who's accepted the soundness of Pascal's Wager might do it, thinking that the exercise will evade punishment by a mind-reading God. Such people even pray to God to strengthen their belief. The logical fallacies are obvious, but the point is that such people choose, if not belief, the appearance of belief.

Here we reach the key point: Persistent pretense at believing can lead to actual belief. People don't like to think they're hypocrites, so they start believing what they claim to believe. Religious leaders know that, which is why they try to get children to recite credos regularly.

So in this indirect sense, people can choose to believe, and they might do so under the influence of arguments such as Pascal's.

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https://reason.com/2023/07/10/cluster-bombs-arent-the-only-weapons-that-kill-people-after-a-war-is-over/

"A government with long-running corruption issues sitting on a lot of U.S.-supplied weapons it doesn't need as much anymore is a recipe for many of those weapons falling into the wrong hands.

And there are a lot of wrong hands in Ukraine.

To fight that earlier conflict in its East, the Ukrainian government leaned heavily on paramilitary groups, including far-right and neo-Nazi groups.

Early in the war, there was some evidence those same groups were getting Western-supplied weapons. Defense Department officials have dismissed more recent reports of that happening.

Even so, should the current war devolve into a frozen conflict, the odds that all the weapons we've sent over there (and that we currently can't account for) stay in responsible hands and aimed at their intended targets will diminish greatly.

U.S.-supplied cluster bombs will have deadly impacts in Ukraine long after formal hostilities cease between Russia and Ukraine. The same can easily be said of almost all weapons sent to the country.

The same reasons to oppose sending cluster bombs to Ukraine are the same reasons to oppose sending weapons to the country generally."

REASON is against violence. They make no distinction between arming citizens with guns and sending cluster bombs. By their logic, releasing a bioweapon is just as bad as giving a citizen a gun because in the end, both kill people. Criticisms of the war aside, REASON doesn't understand legitimate force.

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