Hi everyone,
It's obvious that the White Star Line and Cunard were big rivals prior to WWI. However, I'm curious as to what the rivalry was like (if there was one) between British lines like White Star and Cunard and German lines like Hamburg-America Line (HAPAG) and North German Lloyd (NDL).
I'd like to think that, given the pre-war tensions between the UK and Germany, that White Star and Cunard, despite being rivals between themselves, were sort of "on the same team" when it came to competing against HAPAG and NDL. I'd also imagine that HAPAG and NDL were rivals between themselves, a sort of German counterpart to the rivalry between White Star and Cunard.
Fun fact: much like White Star and Cunard eventually merged, HAPAG and NDL eventually merged as well, in 1970. The merged company is still in existence today: Hapag-Lloyd. It seems that the merged entity also does surface land transportation; I see their trucks quite a bit on the highways in Southern Ontario, Canada. This is probably a result of their purchase of CP Ships in 2005.
Anyway, can anybody shed any light on what the competition was like between the big British and German shipping lines pre-WWI?
Thanks!
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Not remotely the case. Titanic was, ultimately, American owned. It was therefore barred from using high-pressure steam turbines (the patents being controlled by the Admiralty). Cunard, being fully British-owned, was granted licences to use high pressure turbines, meaning that White Star couldn’t possibly compete on speed. Instead it had to compete on luxury. Titanic was never intended to, nor was it capable of, breaking any records.
Titanic was, ultimately, American owned. It was therefore barred from using high-pressure steam turbines (the patents being controlled by the Admiralty).
This is an interesting point. Was the Admiralty hoarding/protecting the patents for use on British naval vessels? 1912 was a time of great naval tensions between the UK and Germany, as they were in the midst of a naval arms race prior to the outbreak of WWI.
We have almost the most history of any team in the league so this is harder than it seems
Best:
The first one should be obvious. 2016 championship.
David Bote ultimate slam
Kerry Wood 20K game (can the whole game count as a moment?)
Sandberg game
Uh, I don't know, Sosa 62? Something like Ron Santo's jersey retirement? Does the Miguel Montero grand slam in the NLDS count as its own moment or is that just part of the whole 2016 one?
Since we're talking all of the team's history, should we include Merkle's Boner here?
Worst:
2008 playoff sweep
Steve Bartman
Losing the WS to the "Hitless Wonders" in 1906 probably belongs on this list
Brant Brown?
I really still want to include Rajai Davis even though we ultimately won
It seems like I mostly did "in my lifetime" moments rather than "in team history" moments
Cap Anson could be part of the worst in a historical context.
Agreed.
One of the best moments could be the Homer in the Gloamin' hit by HoF catcher Gabby Hartnett in late September 1938 that propelled the Cubs to the pennant that year.
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Hi all,
Originally posted this on r/Music but didn't get may responses, so I thought I'd try again here...
I'm a late '90s Canadian kid, and I obviously grew up during the boy band/teen pop era of that time. In Canada, we were exposed to the big teen pop acts of that time from the U.S. (Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, Britney, Christina, etc.), but I also used to watch a show called Hit List on a channel called YTV, and on that show quite a few UK pop acts were featured as well (some ones that I remember are 5ive and Steps).
Given that both the American and British markets produced sizable quantities of their own domestic teen pop acts during that time, I was wondering how aware each market was of the other's teen pop acts. How well known were 98 Degrees in the UK, and how well known were 5ive in the USA, for example? Did they achieve any sort of success on the other side of the pond? If they didn't, why not?
Thanks!!
The British ones I remember being hits in the USA besides the Spice Girls were “Back Here” by BBMak (which got to 13 on the Billboard Hot 100 and topped the adult contemporary chart) and “He Loves U Not” by Dream (2 on the Hot 100 and 15 on R&B/Hip Hop.) But they didn’t have much follow up success. I think Dream was touring with NSYNC which may have helped them get exposure in America
ETA Also I think some of the British bubblegum stuff had a better chance on adult contemporary radio rather than pop, as mentioned in another comment. I distinctly remember hearing “Back For Good” on whatever lite rock station my mom played, and I would have associated them with stuff like Joshua Kadison or Jon Secada (though that was also a dark ages for bubblegum pop in the USA.) I guess that’s where Wet Wet Wet and Breathe ended up over here too. My impression now of a lot of the British pop stuff in the 90s was it was a lot of stodgy Bee Gees covers and some Chavvy aesthetics (ie East 17) that wouldn’t have made sense for us
I remember Dream, but I actually think they were an American group. At least that's what it says on their Wikipedia entry. :)
Oh gosh my mistake then. Maybe I mixed them up with something else. I did remember B-Witched was another one that hit here, “Cest La Vie” got to #9 on the Hot 100. But also why did you leave Canadian pop out of the question? I know a bit more of it than the average American because I’m a huge Degrassi fan and consume lots of Canadian culture but it’s kinda interesting what was a hit here and what wasn’t
No worries. I remember B-Witched as well. "C'est La Vie" used to get airplay on the Hit List.
Hah, I didn't think Americans and Brits knew very much about Canadian pop artists from this period, which is why I didn't mention them. Around the turn of the millennium, among boy bands we had b4-4, The Moffatts, and 3Deep (featuring soap opera stars Joshua Morrow and Eddie Cibrian) off the top of my head. Plus, we had some other non-boy band pop acts as well like Sky, McMaster and James, and Wave. We've also produced our fair share of EDM acts. In fact, we had a pretty popular show called Electric Circus that was focused on dance music.
As a music country (and overall), with the exception of some really big names (Celine, Bieber), I think Canada kind of gets lost in the shuffle. I'm actually kind of flattered that you know a bit about Canadian pop culture. However, I'd think you're definitely in the minority in your country. :)
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