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Paleo and keto diets bad for health and the planet, says study. The keto and paleo diets scored among the lowest on overall nutrition quality and were among the highest on carbon emissions. The pescatarian diet scored highest on nutritional quality of the diets analyzed.

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How is this helpful when everything I’ve read about the amount of fish in the sea indicates that our current fishing levels are possibly already unsustainable?

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The problem of this article is to strictly equate carbon footprint to the ecological impact. Some activities do not produce much CO2 but are very destructive of ecosystems, fishing being a prime example.

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Pescaterian also includes shellfish, and clams, oysters and mussels can be farmed and improve water quality. They're highly nutritious, rich in zinc and iron.

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It also scores the healthiness of foods according to the Healthy Eating Index. Can you guess what is a factor in the healthy eating index? Eating a variety of foods including fruits and cereals, both of which are not encouraged by the keto and paleo diets.

So they're saying if you measure the health of a diet by whether or not it includes all of the foods in the food pyramid, keto and paleo are unhealthy. But that's kind of the point of the diets, they say you don't want to follow the food pyramid in the first place. They need to actually measure something about the diet's effect on bodies.

Overall the article OP linked is absolute trash-tier reporting, and the journal article that actually describes the study has major flaws: 4/10.

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Important to note that the fish part does not include carbon emissions - just "nutritional quality". Fish have a lot of nutrition, but we can work around that with smart combinations of vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, supplements, and eating fish sparingly.

It's much more difficult to work around the meat carbon emissions part that are a by product of a nearly all meat diet like keto.

Basically fish is great for us because it gives us easy access to a lot of important nutrients in a convenient package - but we can't all eat meat (including fish) at the rate we do. This study highlights that finding diet and supplement combinations that mimic fish is a key step in establishing a carbon sustainable food supply.

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would you like some microplastics with your forever chemicals. have an aquatic diet... because nutrient counts don't show the whole picture. if you do a quick tally of the most healthy foods imaginable you will find that you can only get to 50-70% of most vitamins on a daily basis anyway. unless you eat 3000 cals and like hardcore maths/planning.

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Don’t eat fish. It’s unnecessary. No evidence of a benefit to replacing whole grains and legumes with fish. Eat plant based if you care

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There are freshwater fish too, that are usually locally sourced amd rarely mass farmed.

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*to human health. Also eating a diet high in pig and cow can't be 'good' for the planet.

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That's a different apocalyptic scenario.

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Because you can get omega 3 from algae (what fish eat), and flax seed, walnuts, chia seeds. You don’t need fish to be healthy

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Did anyone actually read the article? if I am understanding correctly they used the metric of "calories consumed" vs carbon footprint which is absolutely laughable. By that metric living on a diet of cake and soda is "better for the environment" because I can get 3k calories in a single glass and meal.

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I’m not fat, I’m an environmentalist!!

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Whatever diet kills you sooner would be the optimal for carbon footprint deletion, right?

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