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Little info: 74kg/175cm/male, age: 20-30 (Don't like to dox myself fully)

Background: Last year, at the end of October, I ran a half-marathon with 2:20h time. It was basically just a few runs before, not a single one over 14 km. From then on, I didn't run at all.

Activity: I'm moderately active by playing recreational tennis 2 times a week. I want to attend a marathon that is on 22nd of October. Two weeks a go I had my first run of 5 km, around 30 min. My friend commented that I'm not running correctly because my heart rate is too high. I bought a polar h10 and started running heart zone 2, because it seems like super popular and everyone on YouTube recommends it, saying that you have to run in zone 2 at least 80% of the time.

Issue: I didn't test my heart rate max, but my watch says 191, which is a bit lower than standard 220-age formula. I know that all age related formulas are shit. Maintaining zone 2 is so hard, because it's so slow. The day before yesterday, I ran 6.5km/140bpm/1hr which is really slow and upper zone 2. I can easily run for 1 hour in higher pace. I also see other older people on the Strava running with 150-160bpm average pace


Current plan:

  • Run 3 times a week: 5km, 5km, 6.5km. All in Zone 2 for another 3 week to build a strong basis. Other days are cross-training or rest, but I never rest because the runs are not so challenging

  • 5-8 week: 6.5km, 6.5km, long run: 5-week = 8km, 6-week = 10km, 7-week = 11km, 8 week = 13km

  • From here on decide on half or full marathon and go either way.


Questions:

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Posted by13 hours ago

I have trained for a marathon before, but never actually ran one yet. In fact I’ve trained for a marathon 2020,2021, and 2022, cancelled cause of covid, then cancelled the next two years for two separate health issues. There has been such a big fire lit inside me where I absolutely want to crush my marathon this year (November 2023).

I have been recovering from a knee injury and my PT has given me the go-ahead to start my running/training for my 4th attempt at a marathon.

My main question / concern is whether or not it is absolutely necessary to do short runs and long runs.

The way I have approached training in the past, is to gradually increase my mileage each week by either half a mile or 1 mile depending on how I’m improving. I would usually run every other day (sometimes add an extra rest day if I’m too sore), and would do something like 6 miles, rest, 6.5 miles, rest, 7 miles, rest, 7 miles, etc.

I have found that I personally find long runs so much worse when I allow myself to do short runs, since I’m incorporating something shorter/less intense rather than just getting used to longer distances.

Is there any huge problem/risk with not incorporating the standard short run long run training program that most people follow? Besides my own method being potentially “less efficient”, I just want to see if I’m doing a big disservice to myself with this alternate method of training.

Also other question I have, I bought the Nike vaporfly 3’s to see if I liked them enough to wear for the actual marathon, since my 4% fly knits are completely worn down from previous years of training. Besides the cost of vaporfly 3’s being expensive, is there any disadvantage to training in these new shoes and buying another pair for the race?

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