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Posted by12 minutes ago

I've been reading thread after thread about the Reddit API change, people upset about third-party apps shutting down, saying how it's unfair and greedy, etc.

I personally don't like the API change because I use Reddit for academic reasons and worry my access will be cut off for that. But as far as the third-party apps go, here's my understanding:

Reddit has been serving these apps with free content, a product of the labor of not just willing volunteers (users including mods), but of years of costly development, software maintenance, social-media maintenance, paying for servers, etc. It costs a ton of money to run a site like Reddit, and for years Reddit was serving third-party apps its valuable data for no cost at all. Those third-party services were then, as far as I understand, free to profit from this freely given resource.

I could understand if people just said that the third-party apps should be given access at a lower price or that smaller (e.g., academic) users should have free access. Instead, most complaints that get into specifics resent that Reddit is charging anything for its data. Users resent that they'll have to access Reddit in such a way that will subject them to - horrors - advertising.

That seems to indicate that they think that Reddit should be a non-profit entity, funded by... someone. Maybe the minority of users still browsing on a desktop computer without an ad-blocker? Maybe investors who thought they were going to make money, but should now just sit down, shut up, and keep funding Reddit out of the goodness of their hearts?

It reminds me of the academic publishing: Universities and researchers offer considerable data and money to a publisher that provides none of the content, just a convenient way to organize and access it. When publishers do it, it's thievery, but when third-party apps do it, we must protect them at all costs. Yes, I know it's not exactly the same, but I honestly think that the biggest difference - the source of who is outraged for whom - is who benefits.

Am I just missing something here? Again, I get that people are angry with the result - no third-party apps - or the exact amount Reddit is charging that will lead to that result. But being upset that you now have to see ads to fund your free entertainment? Not everything in this world is PBS or Wikipedia (and even they interrupt you asking for money every once in a while).

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Posted by18 hours ago

I want to believe aliens have visited Earth as much as anyone else, but there are so many factors that make no logical sense to me.

  1. Most UAPs are sighted near US military bases. Isn't it possible, if not likely, that many UAPs are classified US military operations? After all, we know today that many UAP sightings from the 60s-70s did turn out to be US military operations.

  2. If aliens traveled to Earth, that would unquestionably imply that they are masters of space travel. I find it hard to believe that such masters of space travel, possibly millions of years advanced to humans, would ever crash, let alone multiple times on the same planet. This causes me to dismiss immediately any claim that we have recovered alien vehicles.

  3. Most supposed footage and/or photos of UAPs or aliens are grainy, blurry and leave so much up to interpretation. Literally everyone has a high quality camera on their person these days. Why are all these photos of such poor quality?

  4. Most people claiming aliens or UAPs have visited fail to produce direct, indisputable, evidence. For example, David Grusch recently claimed he talked to individuals that claim to work on alien tech. David never saw said tech. David didn't say who his friends were. To me, it's possible David is confused or lying, or, more likely, his sources are confused or lying. For example, his sources might think they worked on alien tech that crashed on US soil, when in reality they worked on Russian/Chinese tech that crashed on US soil. It seems to me that the Pentagon probably employ a 'need-to-know' policy. David's friend may not have been told where the tech originated from because that is not 'need-to-know' information. If an official can complete their tasks without certain information, then they won't get that information. This reduces the risk of leaks. David's friends may have incorrectly assumed/concluded they worked on alien tech.

  5. Do you really think Bill Clinton could keep aliens a secret? The man couldn't keep his affair a secret. Do you really think the US government is organized enough to keep aliens a secret for 5+ decades, through multiple democrat and republican administrations? The number of people that would need to cooperate would be in the thousands, and they each would have a strong motive to leak.

I can list more points that make it tough for me to buy all these UAP stories. But, I'll stop there and ask, how do believers rationalize with the above points?

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I've been speaking to a friend recently who is an artist, and she's been of the opinion that AI generated art is 'inherently' evil. Having discussed it with her, I'm really not sure why she sees it that way.

I have dyspraxia, and having spent years trying to practice drawing and art, digitally and physically, the best I can produce has been barely comparable to what your average 11 year old can do with little effort. I DM tabletop games for my friends, and in the past I've commissioned artists to create visual images of what I imagine certain characters or places to look like. From my perspective, I'm doing the majority of the creative legwork, and the artist is mostly translating the information I give them into an image.

AI image generation, for me, has been an accessibility tool. It has allowed me to relatively quickly and inexpensively transfer my mental image into a visual other people can see, and though it does lack some of the creative spark of the commission artist that would otherwise have created it, it serves its purpose just fine. AI image generation makes relatively 'fine' looking art accessible to many people for very little cost, when previously it would have required paying an artist a small sum to have your mental image translated to a visual one.

I don't really understand why a lot of people rail against AI art as some kind of fundamentally 'bad' thing, and I'd like to see some of the reasons people view it that way, which is why I'm here.

Things that will not CMV (feel free to make points along or adjacent to these, but know that I've considered them before and do not typically find them convincing:

  • Anything along the lines of copyright infringement and theft. This is a pretty simple one, because I already agree this is bad, but the issue lies in the execution of the AI, not inherent to its concept

  • Negative externalities. These kinds of arguments around commission artists losing their work and having to find other jobs are the same arguments luddites made about the spinning jenny. Unless you can explain why this particular labour saving device is uniquely inherently immoral in comparison to every other one in the past, arguments coming from the negative externalities of artists' labour being devalued are unlikely to convince me

So, without further ado, CMV!

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