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Discuss Anne Leckie's Imperial Radch novels and the shorter stories within that universe. Ancillary Justice (2013) Ancillary Sword (2014) Ancillary Mercy (2015)
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**A place to discuss published speculative fiction**—novels, short stories, comics, images, and more. Not sure if a book counts? Then post it! Science Fiction, Fantasy, Alt. History, Postmodern Lit., and more are all welcome here. **The key is that it be speculative, not that it fit some arbitrary genre guidelines**. Any sort of link or text post is welcome as long as it is about printed / text / static SF material.
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Science Fiction, or Speculative Fiction if you prefer. Fantasy too. Asimov, Bradbury, Clarke, Dick, Heinlein and other SF books. SF movies and TV shows. Fantasy stuff like Tolkien and Game of Thrones. Laser guns, space ships, and time travel. etc. Star Trek, Battlestar, Star Wars, etc.
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This is a moderated subreddit. It is our intent and purpose to foster and encourage in-depth discussion about all things related to books, authors, genres, or publishing in a safe, supportive environment. If you're looking for help with a personal book recommendation, consult our Weekly Recommendation Thread, Suggested Reading page, or ask in r/suggestmeabook.
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This reddit is for fans and creators of Science Fiction and related media in any form. SF topics should involve plausible ideas reached through the rational application of science. General speculative fiction posts are fine as long as they involve Science Fiction.
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r/Fantasy is the internet's largest discussion forum for the greater Speculative Fiction genre. Fans of fantasy, science fiction, horror, alt history, and more can all find a home with us. We welcome respectful dialogue related to speculative fiction in literature, games, film, and the wider world. We reserve the right to remove discussion that does not fulfill the mission of /r/Fantasy.
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r/AncillaryJustice
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This is a space to nerd out on the Ancillary Justice trilogy.
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•Posted by7 months ago

Definitely one of my favorite sci-fi books of the last ten years! Such an incredible debut novel from Ann Leckie. Here’s the setup:

Breq used to be the Justice of Toren - a huge, complex AI that inhabited a colossal starship and all of its thousands of ancillaries in the service of the Radch, the largest of the human empires.

Ancillaries are human bodies that were captured in previous Radchaai annexations – those who resist the takeover are killed and their bodies frozen and stored, ready to be activated and controlled by Radchaai AI in future annexations. The ancillaries are terrifying soldiers – each one is protected by almost impenetrable armor, and the AI never miss a shot.

The book follows two parallel timelines – one as Breq, now reduced to a single ancillary body, closes in on the end of her quest for revenge, and the other set twenty years in the past and covering the events leading up to her betrayal.

There are so many things about this book I love, but I’ll try to pick just a few to highlight:

First, having a single AI experiencing the world through many interlinked human bodies is just a deeply interesting idea. That idea is tweaked and twisted throughout the book in super novel ways that I don’t want to spoil - I’ll just say it is very unique and gives a ton of depth to both the characters and plot!

Second, the dialogue and characters are also really masterfully done - instead of telling us what characters are thinking, we’re left to figure it out through the subtext in their dialogue. It strikes a wonderful balance, and feels like we’re meeting real people (because of course that’s how we get to know people in the real world).

Finally, it’s just so propulsive once it gets going! The stakes are incredibly high, the main character is extremely likeable and competent, and it will keep you on the edge of your seat through the whole second half of the book.

That said, there are two small things that hold this book back just a little bit. First, it’s fairly complicated – bordering on convoluted in a couple of areas / plotlines. Second, it starts off slowly – so, push through the first 50-80 pages, and know that it’s an incredible experience once you are immersed in the world!

As a note, the two sequels (Ancillary Sword and Ancillary Mercy) unfortunately aren’t as good. They feel a lot smaller in scope, and the big questions from the first book are never really resolved. Not surprising in some ways though - classic case of the ‘publisher’s trilogy’ where the first book was a labor of love over many years, and then after that book’s success, the author is pushed to come out with sequels in a single year of writing.

PS: Part of a series of posts about the best sci fi books of all time. If you're interested in a deeper discussion about Ancillary Justice (and the sequels), as well as recommendations of similar books, search Hugonauts on your podcast app of choice. No ads, not trying to make money or anything like that, just want to help spread the love of great books. Happy reading y'all!

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•Posted by7 months ago

Definitely one of my favorite sci-fi books of the last ten years! Such an incredible debut novel from Ann Leckie. Here’s the setup (back of the book style):

Breq used to be the Justice of Toren - a huge, complex AI that inhabited a colossal starship and all of its thousands of ancillaries in the service of the Radch, the largest of the human empires.

Ancillaries are human bodies that were captured in previous Radchaai annexations – those who resist the takeover are killed and their bodies frozen and stored, ready to be activated and controlled by Radchaai AI in future annexations. The ancillaries are terrifying soldiers – each one is protected by almost impenetrable armor, and the AI never miss a shot.

The book follows two parallel timelines – one as Breq, now reduced to a single ancillary body, closes in on the end of her quest for revenge, and the other set twenty years in the past and covering the events leading up to her betrayal.

There are so many things about this book I love, but I’ll try to pick just a few to highlight:

First, having a single AI experiencing the world through many interlinked human bodies is just a deeply interesting idea. That idea is tweaked and twisted throughout the book in super novel ways that I don’t want to spoil - I’ll just say it is very unique and gives a ton of depth to both the characters and plot!

The dialogue and characters are also really masterfully done - instead of telling us what characters are thinking, we’re left to figure it out through the subtext in their dialogue. It strikes a wonderful balance, and feels like we’re meeting real people (because of course that’s how we get to know people in the real world).

And finally It’s just so propulsive once it gets going! The stakes are incredibly high, the main character is extremely likeable and competent, and it will keep you on the edge of your seat through the whole second half of the book.

That said, there are two small things that hold this book back just a little bit. First, it’s fairly complicated – bordering on convoluted in a couple of areas / plotlines. Second, it starts off slowly – so, push through the first 50-80 pages, and know that it’s an incredible experience once you are immersed in the world!

As a note, the two sequels (Ancillary Sword and Ancillary Mercy) unfortunately aren’t as good. They feel a lot smaller in scope, and the big questions from the first book are never really resolved. Not surprising in some ways though - classic case of the ‘publisher’s trilogy’ where the first book was a labor of love over many years, and then after that book’s success, the author is pushed to come out with sequels in a single year of writing.

PS: Part of an ongoing series of posts covering the best sci fi books of all time. If you're interested in a deeper analysis and discussion about Ancillary Justice (and the sequels), as well as recommendations of similar books, search Hugonauts on your podcast app of choice. No ads, not trying to make money or anything like that, just want to help spread the love of great books. Happy reading y'all!

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•Posted by5 months ago

This has been bothering me for a while, but I want to finally get 'rid' of it, so to speak.

I am a big fan of sci-fi, so when I heard about Ancillary Justice (and saw it top all those recommendation lists & win all those awards) I went ahead and bought a paper copy, which was already quite an unusual thing for me. Normally, the library or eReader. But I was sure I was going to love it, so it was fine. :)

I managed about a third and then I didn't so much drop it as just not pick it up again out of sheer boredom with the plot. And I've extensively thought about why, because I was so sure that I was going to like it, had been told how great it was -- which I think was part of the problem. Because of all this, my expectations were of course very high due to all the hype. And I think that directly contributed to me finding the book uninteresting. Later I came back and forced myself to finish it, but it didn't make me like it any more. And I think it was the high expectations. I was expecting to love it, to be blown away, and when that didn't happen, well, then it sucked more than it would've otherwise.

Not all of it was bad, obviously. One of the few things I really enjoyed was the whole pronoun/gender thing; I really loved how everybody was a 'her'. Generally I think I enjoyed especially those 'controversial' aspects in sff spaces simply because they were there & well done. Otherwise... There was nothing revolutionary, nothing 'new'; I kept expecting to be amazed by some interesting new idea, but I've heard/read it all before. Many people praise the plot for uniqueness & novelty -- by brining up stuff that has all been done before.

In the end, I truly think it was the mix of high expectations with recycled sci-fi concepts, plus the fact that the plot really drags at the start (and some other places later on) that fouled my enjoyment. Probably if I went into this with no previous knowledge, I would have liked the book, but since we don't have any reliant memory erasure techniques, I'll never know.

Has this happened to anybody else with a book? Too high expectations for what would otherwise probably be an enjoyable read?

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•Posted by7 months ago

Breq used to be the Justice of Toren - a huge, complex AI that inhabited a colossal starship and all of its thousands of ancillaries in the service of the Radch, the largest of the human empires.

Ancillaries are human bodies that were captured in previous Radchaai annexations – those who resist the takeover are killed and their bodies frozen and stored, ready to be activated and controlled by Radchaai AI in future annexations. The ancillaries are terrifying soldiers – each one is protected by almost impenetrable armor, and the AI never miss a shot.

The book follows two parallel timelines – one as Breq, now reduced to a single ancillary body, closes in on the end of her quest for revenge, and the other set twenty years in the past and covering the events leading up to her betrayal.

There are so many things about this book I love, but I think my favorite is the how a single AI experiences the world through many interlinked human bodies. That idea is tweaked and twisted throughout the book in super novel ways that I don’t want to spoil - I’ll just say it is very unique and gives a ton of depth to both the characters and plot!

That said, there are two small things that hold this book back just a little bit. First, it’s fairly complicated – bordering on convoluted in a couple of areas / plotlines. Second, it starts off slowly – so, push through the first 50-80 pages, and know that it’s an incredible experience once you are immersed in the world!

As a note, the two sequels (Ancillary Sword and Ancillary Mercy) unfortunately aren’t as good. They feel a lot smaller in scope, and the big questions from the first book are never really resolved. Not surprising in some ways though - classic case of the ‘publisher’s trilogy’ where the first book was a labor of love over many years, and then after that book’s success, the author is pushed to come out with sequels in a single year of writing.

PS: Part of a series of posts about the best sci fi books of all time for the Hugonauts. If you're interested in a deeper discussion about Ancillary Justice (and the sequels), as well as recommendations of similar books, search Hugonauts on your podcast app of choice (or here's a link to apple podcasts if you use that app). No ads, not trying to make money or anything like that, just want to help spread the love of great books. Happy reading y'all!

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