In the first episode of his new podcast, Race Ghost: Roast to Roast, Neo-Nazi hacker Andrew “weev” Auernheimer praised mass murderers Anders Breivik and Timothy McVeigh as “heroes” and “patriots.” (For those wondering, his podcast title is an homage to the Adult Swim show Space Ghost Coast to Coast.)

McVeigh, who murdered 168 people with a truck bomb in 1995, was ultimately inspired by The Turner Diaries — a dystopian novel written by white supremacist William Luther Pierce. Self-described fascist Anders Breivik killed 77 people — mostly children at a Worker’s Youth League camp — in attacks on Oslo and Utøya in 2011.

To Auernheimer, these acts of racist terrorism will be fondly remembered in the future ethnostate he hopes to create. “I think that Anders and McVeigh and many other people are just perfect heroes and the best patriots of their respective nations in hundreds of years,” he told his co-host Voltar, “so I can’t really disavow.”

Auernheimer dismissed white nationalists who criticized Breivik for including pro-Zionist rhetoric in his lengthy manifesto, 2038: A European Declaration of Independence, since Breivik later admitted it was a ruse to protect his fellow white nationalists from scrutiny.

In fact, Breivik wrote, “I know a lot of people will be disapointed when reading this, but my love for Israel is limited to its future function as a deportation-port for disloyal jews [sic].” And he revealed that he was never a Christian, but rather a believer in Odinism.

“And you know because he fucking carved ‘Gungnir’ into his rifle, right?” Auernheimer boasted. “Did you know that? He fucking carved the name of Odin’s spear into the rifle that he killed people with. So you know that he was called by the Allfather from the beginning.”