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The other guy's Model Y postmortem ( https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/yzct79/tesla_model_y_postmortem_2_years_of_ownership/ ) sounded fun so I'm copying his template.


After almost five years (Jan 2018, serial number under 5000), I sold my 2018 Model 3 LR RWD last weekend. I was a Musk/Tesla cheerleader when I got it and I have become… something else… in the meantime. I'll attempt to keep this on the topic of my actual vehicle experience for the most part.


The Good
  • Performance - It's zippy in a straight line until you get to extralegal speeds, and stays reasonably well composed in the corners when driving aggressively.

  • One pedal driving - Like the other guy, I REALLY liked this. I will miss it and am not looking forward to having to use my brake pedal more.

  • Mobile app - Worked well for the most part (exceptions to be mentioned elsewhere).

  • Autopilot (Just Autosteer, TACC, and driver-initiated automatic lane changes. The rest to be discussed elsewhere)- This was the reason I bought the car and for the first couple of years, it steadily improved. I still have no regrets buying the car + autopilot (basic autopilot wasn't included back then, it cost me an extra $5k).

  • Sound system - I'm no audiophile but pretty good to me.

  • Nav/charging integration - This made switching to an EV pretty simple, the car would generally figure out where I'd need to stop and charge, and it got better at it over time.

  • Overall reliability - Not the best I've had on a new car, but far from the worst. Never left me stranded, never had a major feature stop working.

  • Frunk - What a great, great place to keep things you need to have with you, but don't need to access every day.

  • TPMS - It's difficult to express how pleased I was and am with how good the implementation of that is. Made it a dream to manage multiple sets of wheels.

  • The general EV experience - I didn't really want an electric car, I just wanted Autopilot (there was no serious competition to it at the time). I did not expect it to be this great, and I'll never switch back. Charging at home is life.

Edited to add:

Camp mode! Super useful!

The Bad and Ugly (I'm combining them because how much they pissed me off varied based on the day, and they're not in any particular order).
  • The seats. I know a lot of y'all like them, that's fine. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I *hated* them. The high floor caused by the battery pack, coupled with the lack of adjustable thigh support, compounded by the poor range of adjustability on the squab tilt, made the car quite uncomfortable on long drives for me.

  • Cabin noise (wind and road) - Jesus Christ. This car was $59,000 and has the sound isolation of a 1998 Civic… and no, it is NOT because there's no engine to cover up the noise.

  • Lack of CarPlay - I know a bunch of you use Spotify or whatever. That's fine, I'm not saying you should have to use CarPlay when you have a native app to use. But I'm an Apple Music, Audible.com, and podcast guy, and using bluetooth to stream from my phone is some shit from days we should have left behind by now, and it's an awful experience.

  • Lack of binnacle/HUD - Obviously I knew what I was getting into here and it's MOSTLY ok. General day to day shit is fine, but here's where it falls apart: When using nav. Because I'm an audiobooks guy mostly, I *HATE* voice guidance interrupting what I'm listening to, and because of the UI design for the nav, I'd miss cues on the center stack sometimes and miss turns.

  • Interface / changes - The car's interface got progressively worse over a half decade, and less usable and less safe as functions were moved behind multiple layers of menus, which brings us to…

  • Lack of actual buttons for climate control, lights, and wipers adjustments - Voice controls are not a panacea for this.

  • Torque sensor to determine driver engagement when using auto steer - Ok, for the S/X I get it, they had to solve this problem with what they had. There's no excuse for the 3, Y, and refreshed S/X not to have touch sensors around the rim of the wheel to determine hand presence.

  • Special mention for how the climate zone sync works (or rather, doesn't) - What sort of stupid asshole thought this up? seriously. Under what circumstances does it make sense for a passenger adjusting their side of the car to not disable the sync, and instead adjust the driver's side too, forcing the driver to have to fumble around to bring up the menu to disable the sync, and then adjust their temp back where it goes.

  • Additional special mention for lack of buttons for rear passengers to adjust their own seat heaters - I've got more important shit to do than manage your ass cheek comfort, rear seat scum.

  • Door handles, and vent controls - They're not intuitive to most people and I got tired of having to give briefings.

  • The rest of enhanced autopilot - Autopark is slower than waiting for my partner to decide what they want for dinner. That's REAL fucking slow. Smart summon has been broken for MONTHS and cannot be initiated. Nav on Autopilot? Actually not bad… if you are the only car on the road. It tries to get over wayyyyyyyyy too soon. Like, 5 miles early to change 3 lanes and sit behind some 18 wheeler doing 17 under in traffic when the #2 lane was still moving plenty fast.

  • FSD - It's a fucking scam. It will never, ever deliver what we paid for: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/oey4g1/for_those_who_never_know_and_those_who_have/. Yes, I paid for it. Yes, I had the beta for a long time. No, I did not think it was worth it and it made me LOSE the remaining faith I had left.

  • Phone as key - In theory? Great. In practice, really aggravatingly high failure rate. I'm not saying every time, or even every day, but having to take my phone out of my pocket and unlock via the app even once a week is far, far too frequent

  • Lack of a ski passthrough on the rear seats - Folding down a full seat seems wasteful and dramatically increases the already terrible road noise.

  • Why oh why is the front T logo not also a button to open the frunk? Having to use the app or the screen makes this a way less useful storage space

  • Piano black interior trim - If you've ever been responsible for the decision to put this in a vehicle without offering an alternative, I hope you end up with actual OCD, because you fucking deserve it. Asshole.

  • No interior monitor or glass breakage sensor for the alarm - Coupled with the lack of locks on the rear seats, Teslas became prime targets for break-ins. It didn't have to be this way.

  • Red rear turn signals - These are less safe. They've been known to be less safe for a long, long fucking time. STOP USING THEM, SHITHEADS.

  • Door armrest is too low - Self explanatory

  • The community - You can be a fan of a product while acknowledging problems with the product, the company, or the company's leadership. The cultist types (and I acknowledge that I have become the anti-cultist / hater) are a net negative for the company in the long term.

Edited to add: the minimalist interior. I thought I'd like it, turns out I don't.

I do not for even one moment regret buying the car… but I do regret buying FSD.

This is also going to be the last thread here where I engage in any sort of Tesla-specific discussion other than as the basis for comparison with other vehicles, for the sake of my own mental health.

Edited to add: Replacing with Audi Q4

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