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[–]happy_hibiscus0 107 points108 points  (4 children)

Have you had an eye exam recently? If you’re getting bad headaches from reading, you might need glasses.

[–]MelonHead888 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I second this. Also read things that interesting to you, it should be something that you can’t wait to see what the next page says! Something that excites you.

[–]BloatOfHippos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree! It was the main reason for me to get glasses (together with sore eyes)

[–]KiwiTheKitty28 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, this was a big reason I finally accepted I needed them again after resisting them as a teenager

[–]scarletseasmoke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

+1, and it only counts if it checked for binocular issues as well, not just hyperopia / myopia. Astigmatism and the like often only present as headaches and a tendency to tilt your head or close one eye sometimes and basic eye exams don't catch it.

[–]escapefromallreality 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Read only what you're interested in. If self help books are what you like, stick to that. You can try a new genre from time to time just to see if your tastes have morphed but there's no reason to read things you don't enjoy.

Have you also considered trying audio books? Perhaps reading itself is what you don't enjoy but you like the books? Give it a shot, see if there's an improvement

[–]Kssio_Aug 36 points37 points  (4 children)

It seems to me you need to change your mindset as a whole. And 50 pages a hour is not bad at all.

But if you just want to express better, you have other alternatives instead of books, if you don't like reading them.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

But if you just want to express better, you have other alternatives instead of books, if you don't like reading them.

What for example? I really just want to improve the way I express myself in my mother tongue, it's kind of stupid that I can express myself better in English than in Polish

[–]spike_right 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Audio books my friend. It would help your brain get use to processing another language. It's why you get much better results from language apps and lessons than trying to learn a language from a reference book.

[–]cannycandelabra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Podcasts, audio books, documentaries.

[–]Kssio_Aug -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It depends on the skill you pretend to hone. If you want to write better, you need to write a lot. If you want to talk better, you need to talk a lot (maybe an oratory course or recording you talking about a subject). The reading portion does not need to be done with books, much less fictions. You can read whatever, as long as you're not reading just trash stuff like social media. It could be articles, scholarly literature, non-fiction books, etc.

Reading does improve your language and vocabulary as a whole, but in order to do that it needs to be enjoyable... otherwise you will be wasting time with an inefficient method.

Now, if you can change your mindset and read more peacefully, with actual interest in the subject, then it can become an efficient way to improve.

But I think that, if you really want to improve how you express yourself, you need to focus on what form exactly you want to improve and seek activities in that direction.

[–]Necessary-Rip-6612 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you should read non fiction. A lot of the complaints you outline is about descriptors or pacing in fictional literature.

[–]tentaz 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I was the same way. What got me reading more and improving speed was:

To only read 10min every day and slowly increase the time as the books got more interesting.

Also never reade a bad book to completion. If the first 50-100pages dose not interest me I pick up a new book.

Lastly I only find real events interesting so I mostly read historical novel. So find a genera you fancy and stick to it until more tolerance for "filler" or another intresse comes along.

[–]backby5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll co-sign this! I made a goal to read at least 10 pages a day to get back into the habit. There were a lot of days where I only did the 10 page minimum, but you can read a lot of books reading 10 pages a day! And then on the days where I was really enjoying it and it was coming easy I could read more!

[–]FastingMoo 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Audiobooks... Also if you want to increase your reading speed, try following along with a physical copy. I use to be sooo slow when reading. I still am slow, but not so slow that I'm embarrassed by it. The important part is finding a book or book series that you truly enjoy. Something you could read several times or a long series.

[–]tvp61196 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Audiobooks are absolutely worth looking into.

[–]bofh000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Stop counting pages. It’s not important beyond boasting on the www (unless your job requires that you read a lot of material really fast, in which case you would be screwed).

Get GLASSES. Bad eyesight causes headaches.

[–]HugoNebula 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Firstly, I wouldn't say reading 50 pages in an hour is by any means slow. Also, it certainly sounds as if you might need reading glasses.

[–]roberh 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Oh my god, how can you read self-help books and think any fantasy novel beats around the bush? The ONLY point of self-help books is beating around the bush and say nothing while sounding deep.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, I also don't like it if self-help books beat about the bush.

[–]Gone-In-3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kind of curious, what self help books do you like?

[–]mleibler94 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Just gotta find a story that interests you G.

[–]FindTheWayThru 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This. I had a coworker who said she hated reading. In her early 30's and had not read a book since HS. Someone convinced her to try The Hunger Games series. She loved it. Next I gave her The Outlander series and she devoured it. We even went to see the author speak in 2011. Obsessively waited for the next books to drop. Good times.

Turns out, she was a reader after all.

[–]Littleman88 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. I found I'm more interested in young adult novels than most adult novels. Many genre's are, I'd argue, poorly named. For some people, finding the right books may just be a matter of getting over any stigma and picking up something they think they shouldn't be reading.

[–]magibug 7 points8 points  (1 child)

1) patience is a skill; like anything else, you can practice and get better. and with any skill you're building focus on progress not current position.

2) if reading gives you a headache, you may need glasses for reading up close. read big print books or i highly recommend read on a Kindle so you can change the font size and the Kindle tends to be more gentle on the eyes than black and white or a regular screen

3) have an audiobook of the same book you're reading. when it gets boring, listen to the audiobook right where you left off while doing something (like going for a walk)

4) novels, epics, the classics are not intrinsically more valuable reads than anything else. if you like facts, articles like those in scientific journals/magazines, the Atlantic or a (trustworthy) news source is still very much reading. and are shorter so you can complete one, do something else, read another later. follow your curiosity.

good luck!

[–]dubya3686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 🙌🏻

I am a painfully slow reader and have the audiobook helps me power through when I’m too distracted or losing interest.

[–]albertnormandy 5 points6 points  (17 children)

If you hate reading why do you want to do it?

[–]whateveroasis[S] 1 point2 points  (16 children)

As I said: I want to improve the way I express myself in my mother tongue (Polish). I'm 24 right now, finishing my Master's degree in Mathematics, and I want to be able to express myself well when I enter the workplace.

Currently, if it comes down to Polish, the way I talk or write is comparable to maybe a 5th grader. It's a complicated language with very complicated grammar, and I often can't seem to find the right words because there are "too many" to choose from

[–]just_a_ling_gal 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Do you find audiobooks boring? Because they could possibly help you!

[–]whateveroasis[S] 4 points5 points  (10 children)

Audiobooks could be a good idea. But do they come with the same benefits as reading? What I mean is: Can I improve my language and the way I express myself by listening to audiobooks? Or should I rather use audiobooks and a physical copy simultaneously?

[–]just_a_ling_gal 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I am pretty sure that your brain can take subconsciously what it is hearing and embed it in your speech. It may worth a try!

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

And what about writing? Writing is actually the area I've got the most problems with.

[–]just_a_ling_gal 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Maybe it is a stupid idea but find an interesting book series and listen the first audiobook. Hopefully you will like it enough and be fascinated for the second one. Then try to read the second one. But audiobooks will help you cultivate your communication skills, thus your writing skills. Are you struggling with vocabulary, orthography or sentence structure ?

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sentence structure and grammar. In Polish, there are always many possible options for a word to choose from, and I never guess it correctly. I also use a "germanic" sentence structure if that makes any sense, kind of like translating directly word by word from English to Polish.

[–]just_a_ling_gal 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hmmm I get it. I am Greek and we encounter this problem too. I would suggest , also , reading newspapers and articles. That would help your grammar . Good luck, OP ❤️

[–]cannycandelabra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They absolutely help the same as reading because they train your ear to understand tenses, grammatical usage, pronunciation and proper sentence structure.

[–]sphinx_lynx -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Oftentimes yes. If you could find a Polish podcast and a musical group or two; to listen and study the lyrics of, that would help immensely. I suspect if you could find some documentaries you may have seen before and watch them dubbed in polish, that would help. Then use duolingo to review basics as a game, and to improve your grammar and syntax. Good Luck! You can definitely do this.

[–]whateveroasis[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You do realize that I'm a Polish native speaker? 😀

I lived outside of Poland for 16 years, then returned back to Poland but my Polish is now on the level of a 5th grader. I am still able to study Mathematics here in Poland at a university, but only because you don't have to be good with words to be good with maths.

[–]sphinx_lynx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my Polish is now on the level of a 5th grader. I am still able to study Mathematics

Yes. This was my full understanding when I wrote down everything I could think of to help you reach your goal. It must become a regular part of your routine and there are likely some fundamentals that you will have forgotten. It is not a judgement on your ability; but an assessment of what I understand about the necessity of immersion for language learning. You need to be able to read; and more importantly, write competently in Polish in a short amount of time. Good Luck.

[–]albertnormandy 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You need to practice speaking Polish if that’s what you’re trying to improve on. Reading will not be as helpful.

But if you are just looking for accessible books in Polish to practice the language, try to find some popular fiction like Harry Potter or something.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My writing is actually worse in Polish than my speaking, so I don't get why reading wouldn't be that helpful.

[–]albertnormandy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Speaking uses different parts of your brain than reading and writing. All three are important, and somewhat related, but to get better at speaking you have to practice speaking.

[–]scarletseasmoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a bit different with your native language. You don't build passive / active vocabulary the same way as in a foreign language you're not fluent in. Even in foreign languages you get to a point where it doesn't matter if you speak or browse random pages in a dictionary it brings the improvement you need.

[–]Fun_Story2003 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Dont think pages, think time imo. Wake up and pick your kindle. I'm reading shitty fiction to get my reading habit going. Hell i read the maus a comic book and im counting that in my goodreads challenge. i guess like most habits to be builts, its about getting time with it. like starting running, it doesnt matter what ur pace is just putting in the hours getting body ready for an actual carefully planned habit

[–]timelyturkey 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was about to suggest this! If you set yourself a manageable time goal (like read 10 minutes each day), I think you'll have a lot more success building a habit, which is what's going to set you up for success.

[–]thoth1000 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Maus is a comic book but it's also much more than that.

[–]plasma_dan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Maus is the most impactful commentary on the Holocaust I ever read. There's truly haunting and disturbing shit in there.

[–]Fun_Story2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok bad example, replace with superman for all practical purposes

[–]spike_right 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'd say you need audio books but not for the same reason as everyone else. It seems to me that your requirements are met with audio books it's easy to consume as you're just listening. You can do other tasks while listening (personally I use it as my motivation to get up and clean my house).

It will kindle your mind to love stories and that is the most important part. Once you consume stories you will want to get them any way you can. Also if you get headaches while reading chances are you are an undiagnosed dyslexic who needs a coloured filter to manage or you need glasses(easy to be longsighted without knowing it or it could even be astigmatisum).

My point is start by just falling in love with stories. Books are just a way for us to share new worlds or new information.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely not dyslexic as I don't have any problems with orthography. I think you're all right about glasses though, because I just got new ones.

[–]Dodo6999 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If it is at all an option for you, I would recommend audiobooks or podcasts. While I generally enjoy reading, I have phases during which I just get too impatient for physical reading - so audiobooks, where I can adjust the speed setting, have really helped me still get my fill of books.
Additionally, with audiobooks, I've really been enjoying taking them on walks or listening to them while dong chores around the house. Obviously this doesn't work with every book, but I have found that for most of them, the split-activity of physical action and background listening is really helpful. That way, I can zone-out a little bit for passages that might be long-winded, while still passively absorbing some of the information.

[–]delectabledelusions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was going to give very similar advice!

[–]delectabledelusions 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I very much agree with the poster recommending audiobooks and podcasts.

I am not sure if your motivation - to become more articulate - is helping you because it's not exactly an exciting reason and it's got nothing to do with the content of the books themselves.

If you're more interested in non fiction then I think you should read non fiction, though it's worth looking for any fiction books which appeal to you too.

Also to improve your vocabulary I recommend each time you come across a word you don't know, you look up the definition and write it down (otherwise it's just going to be washing over you). In addition, you really need to find opportunities to write/speak as well if your goal is to become more articulate.

[–]Eldritch50 1 point2 points  (8 children)

You don't have to read 50 pages an hour. You don't have to read 10 pages an hour. Read at whatever speed you find comfortable. If that's a page an hour, then do that.

Fictional books are like movies that play out inside your head. You have to see them in your imagination, that's why there's so much detail in fictional books. To clarify and enrich that movie inside your head.

But it doesn't sound to me as if you're designed to enjoy works of fiction. Nothing wrong with that. If non-fiction floats your boat, get into the subjects that DO interest you. Nobody out there reads stuff they're not into. Why should you be an exception?

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Fictional books are like movies that play out inside your head. You have to see them in your imagination, that's why there's so much detail in fictional books. To clarify and enrich that movie inside your head.

I understand that, but why do they have to describe it in such great details? Just for the book to have more pages? The author just has to tell me more or less what's going on in the scene, and I can imagine it, I don't need the additional details. That's why I'm saying that it's like "beating about the bush"

But it doesn't sound to me as if you're designed to enjoy works of fiction. Nothing wrong with that. If non-fiction floats your boat, get into the subjects that DO interest you. Nobody out there reads stuff they're not into. Why should you be an exception?

I just feel that I'm missing out a lot if I'm not into fiction books.

[–]PureChaos4704 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I understand that, but why do they have to describe it in such great details? Just for the book to have more pages?

Sometimes it is for creating atmosphere, sometimes it is relevant for the plot you just do not see it yet and in good books, the descriptions are often a symbol for what happens next (foreshadowing), what has happened so far or how the character feels or may develop.

Of cause, an author can write: "Alex killed Jeffrey with a blunt instrument" or he creates suspense and tension by choosing to describe the surroundings while you bite your nails ... will he? will he not?

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

or he creates suspense and tension by choosing to describe the surroundings while you bite your nails ... will he? will he not?

People really get so excited when reading a book that they are biting their nails?

[–]PureChaos4704 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Try reading Patricia Highsmith and we talk about the the nailbiting part again.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

But why do people bite their nails if these are just words? I mean, they are not actually in that scene. I honestly don't get it.

[–]No_Influencer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My brother doesn’t enjoy reading fiction, and I think for similar reasons as you’ve discussed through the comments here.

My advice would be to just not read novels. If you don’t get anything from them then don’t bother. There is plenty of writing that you can read to help improve your written Polish, and that would probably be more directly applicable to workplace use. I’d go for any non fiction that interests you (topic wise), long form decent journalism etc. Maybe also podcasts that are aimed at a ‘higher level’ than just chat.. news, journalism, interviews with people you find interesting.

[–]ShadiestProdigy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would get so stuck onto a book when I was younger that I could stay up extremely late just trying to finish the book, Id also skip paragraphs on accident because I was trying to read too fast lol

[–]timelyturkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think that not enjoying fiction means that you're missing out. There's a lot of great nonfiction out there.

[–]ShadiestProdigy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

audio books! it still counts as reading lol. whatever kind of book you like is what you should read. I always recommend world war Z to beginners, but if you dont like fiction (or zombies), then dont try reading it lol

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

but if you dont like fiction (or zombies), then dont try reading it lol

I mean, I tried to read Christine by Stephen King, and gave up after 100 pages because I found it so boring

[–]ShadiestProdigy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it could be the writers style that you don't like, i wouldnt recommend tom clancy to a new reader for example. WWZ is my go to because it's easily digestible and is split up into short sotires that all have a certain amount of action involving zombies

[–]Naturalnumbers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My head hurts a lot after reading for a longer time (even with breaks), so while I'm reading, I'm not concentrating on what's written, but rather on the fact that "just 2 pages and I'm done for today, 50 pages read in total"

Get your eyes checked out. You may spare yourself a lot of headaches.

[–]ShippingMammals 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Could you be one of these people who have limited or no imagination? Not being a dick, serious question as there are people who have this kind of condition. My former housemate was like this. He would try, but could never get through any book. People like this can't read a book like I/most do - When I read (Or listen to an Audiobook as that's all I really do these days) I stop seeing/hearing words, it just turns into a move in my head which is why I love it so much. I've been on countless different planets, times, situations. From swinging a magic sword to firing a railgun from a starship.. I've been there and seen it. I love detail an description as it fleshes out the image in my head all the more.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wouldn't say that I've got bad imagination (that's why I am complaining about the author explaining the scene in deep details, as I already am imagining it in my head and don't need any additional help)

[–]ShippingMammals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting! Could it be you've not found a category or kind of book that does it for you? I mean there are some books or kinds I simply can't stand, or like to a lesser extent over another.

[–]Hour_Difficulty_4203 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Audible can help. I listen to it because of work but it probably helps with most of the things on your list.

[–]AnXioneth 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Read short stories. Many famous authosr have short works. sometimes no more than 20 pages.

Dont read anything written in the last 50 years, or choose a topic.

Like I love romantisism, and Magical realism.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's actually a good idea about short stories

[–]jof1029 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only work written in polish that I know is The Witcher by Andrzej Sapkowski. The first two books are actually collections of short stories. So if you like fantasy then that might be a place to start. I don't remember how long each story is, but maybe 50ish pages for many of them. So even if you read for 20-30 minutes (or less) , you can feel like you are making progress.

Usually for short stories I recommend Ray Bradbury. Not sure what the translation is like, or if there is one. But he has a lot of stories that are 15-20ish pages. So you could read for 20-30 minutes and read a whole story. Then you can work your way into the longer stories if you want.

I am sure you can find lots of other authors with short stories in styles or genres you like. I think shorter works are a great way to get into the habit or practice of reading.

[–]Xaltial 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Why not anything in the last 50 years?

[–]AnXioneth 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Beginner advice.

In my mind reading something before our times can spark interest. Like; "this feels so unreal to me". But I love history so that could be a reason.

Also is an advice I feel that could help to people that can see and imagine everything they read.

[–]Xaltial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see your point. Old books definitely have a distinct kind of allure.

[–]wayward_citizen 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not that you should take this as me disgnosing you, but have you ever considered that you might have adhd or something similar?

Even if you don't necessarily have adhd, strategies for coping with that might help you with your reading.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Here on reddit, I've been told plenty of times that I might have ADHD or "be on the spectrum".

The thing is that I had a friend who was officially diagnosed with ADHD, and he was always so super hyperactive, he was unbearable in school. He always tried to distract me and others, he was older than me but I felt like he's half my age the way he behaved.

So if I "got" ADHD, then without the hyperactivity. I do lack focus though, take chess for example: I believe that I have enough knowledge to be at least 500-600 ELO, but because of my lack of focus, not being able to regulate my emotions and tunnel vision, I still lose against 180 ELO players who blunder their queen and don't know basic opening strategies.

[–]ShadiestProdigy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

adhd doesnt show up the same in every person, its better if you get tested

[–]Apprehensive_Band_44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FIND BOOKS THAT APPEAL TO YOU. Seriously, fuck reviews or anyone else's opinion. Choose a book/story you personally think you will enjoy. I also love comic books and find them a good way to get people to read. All sorts of graphic novels and even novels that get remade into graphic novels. Slaughter-house five is a great example that I just finished lol

[–]abhinav_sk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I never read consistently before but I've slowly built the habit.

Read what you love till you love to read. Read anything which you think can captivate you and not what other people think you should. When I started everyone raved about 1984 so I tried reading it but it felt kinda drab to me(not shitting on everyone else's taste). I was going through a self improvement phase at the time and i read atomic habits(self help is generally treated like trash on this sub) it was super easy and fun to read.

And Just start reading. Like literally right now go open up a page and read at least two. Its not that hard to keep going then. Also something that worked was keeping the book with me when I go around. Cos if i had 10 free minutes between classes I'd just open something up.

And i was terribly slow as well. You get faster with time. I also started liking the books that this sub recommends over time xP. Reading the Stranger by Camus right now.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a good idea, I could use short breaks (like those 10 free minutes between classes) to read a little. I can treat reading books as a "time filler"

[–]Familiar-Buffalo-490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe try some graphic novels? Those have a faster pace and less words. A lot of literature is being turned into graphic novels now, like you can buy The Giver as a graphic novel, or there’s always anime.

I just saw another comment that recommended the same thing and you said “no comics because that’s not going to improve my language.”

Well… maybe you need to start smaller than big literature and improve your reading first, start with children’s literature.

[–]Rusalka-rusalka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was the same and I am not sure that you can change that on a permanent basis, but it can change for you later. I'm amused at how much I've come to like John Steinbeck's prose because everything he did, such as describing an entire scene, was irritating to me when I was younger (teen and 20s), but now I love it and I immerse myself in the scene he's describing.

You may need a lower reading level book. The only series I read and enjoyed when I was younger and was able to finish was the Harry Potter books. You don't have to pick up something overly complicated, just pick up something fun and easy to get through. If you still find that you don't enjoy reading, don't force it. You can pick it back up later when you feel like it. :)

[–]magonegro123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

read should a pleasure, just read what you like and stay chill and imerse. when a book don't catch you, is a hard task keeping reading, so, don't insist, go next up and look for

[–]greenhouse5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start with short fiction stories. Young adult would probably be a great place to start. Mysteries, dystopian, coming of age or love stories, whatever is most interesting to you. Audio books are also a great way to have the book experience without reading. If you find yourself too distracted to pay attention when listening, then sit or lay down and close your eyes and let your imagination run. Libby is an excellent app that I use but there are others too.

[–]nightly11111 0 points1 point  (4 children)

First thing would be to pick a genre you really enjoy pretty much the same way you would pick out a show.....

And don't turn it into work or a competition read at a natural pace without being preoccupied with how long it takes you to read 10, 20 or 50 pages

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah, that's the thing: I'm not even interested in shows and sitcoms. :(

[–]nightly11111 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What about movies? 🤔

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Also not. Shows, sitcoms, movies and books just "feel the same" for me. There's nothing "individual" in my opinion. Two and A Half Men and the Big Bang Theory are very individual sitcoms. But 2 Broke Girls and Mom?

[–]nightly11111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk too many books that are like sitcoms although I'm sure they exist I was thinking more like game of thrones when I said shows ..... Maybe non fiction you'd like better or classics

[–]Ineffable7980x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very few people read 50 pages per hour. In my experience, most read between 30 and 40.

Sounds to me like you might be more of a non fiction reader.

[–]wickedwings_99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am an advocate of the "drop it if you don't like it" rule. Most people kick themselves and persevere through books that they feel they "need" to read rather than spending time on the ones they "want" to read. Long or short, drop whatever doesn't interest you and pick up the next one. You don't have to make reading a chore.

[–]CarlthekrakenJames Joyce 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read Fight Club. Punchy, short, interesting.

[–]wongie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't think of reading as something to be finished, but as establishing an ongoing routine.

I can barely read 3 or 4 pages in an hour theses days yet reading has becoming ingrained as a habit that it becomes inconsequential as to how far away I am from finishing it.

[–]theresah331a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start novellas of other short stories from authors that write in your interest..tor has many authors featured with short stories.

[–]mediadavid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop focusing on reading '50 pages'.

[–]Global-Ad-5221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on what your reading. I felt the same until I picked up one book that really interested me (not only the subject but also how well it was written). That happened to me when I was about 20 (and that book was not on any recommended lists for reading in highschool). Also a fringe (non literature) example: you could be reading something on theoretical math and your speed would be 1 page per hour. You wouldn't say you're a bad reader, because the concepts are hard to grasp. If you would just go through the text, sure you would 'read it', but your concentration would drop instantly as you wouldn't even know what you read

[–]PrinceOfLeon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We could tell you but then you'd have to read the answers and you hate that so...

Only half joking- if you cut down on Reddit, news, social media and other "empty calorie" forms of reading you might find more of a taste for books and other long-format prose.

[–]Dapper_psychoanalyst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start reading 30mins a day. No matter how many pages or chapters. Stick to it. Commit to it. Find the best book that aligns your interest. Don’t push yourself too much. It’s a process after all.

[–]womanonhighhorse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a slow reader and a mood reader. It’s a struggle to get through books. What really helped me was reading through audiobooks. I started with memoirs and non-fiction and now I have begun consuming novels on audio, too. Audiobooks allow me to feel more engaged because they feel like the writer is speaking to me as they tell the story.

[–]Possible-Magazine917 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was in a very similar boat to you a couple of years ago and then I was diagnosed with Dyslexia. Being able to work with the right tools really helped me get back into reading. There is also a sub for book recommendations, I'd suggest having a look through it if you'd like to expand your reading.

Best of luck!

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am NOT dyslexic, my orthography is perfect.

[–]ScarlettLancaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also used to have issues (sometimes still do) with descriptive writing. It bored me.

What helped was to look at something. A tree, for example. And think how I would put what it looks like down on paper. How would I explain this specific tree to someone who has never seen it before.

Next, go back to your book and when you come to a descriptive scene, lean into it. Don't skim over the description, but force yourself to pay close attention to the words the author chose, the details they decided to highlight. Can you see what this object/scene/person looks like in your mind? What is still blank to you? How would you have described those aspects?

It's not to make you a better reader, but it is to change your perspective. Some descriptive writing is better than the story/plot/action. We just need to be willing to spend time with it. You can build this amazing place in your head from words only. How freaking cool is that? It sometimes still blows my mind.

And maybe a bit controversial, but don't read the Booktok top 10 or what a teenager recommends on Instagram. Those books are great for younger age groups, but the writing in a lot of them started boring me in my 20s. And there's nothing that takes me out of a reading mood faster than boring writing.

examples: Hunger games, Percy Jackson, anything by Sarah j Maas or Colleen Hoover, the love stories with the cartoony covers...

Do some research and find a story you are interested in. Spend time with it and don't rush.

Once you get immersed in a book, the pages will just fly by

[–]1xbittn2xshy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Short stories.

[–]SL3D 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you just value your time more than most people.

Some individuals can spend hours reading books about corn without a second thought about if that time is well spent.

If your brain keeps telling you “this is a waste of time” every 2 minutes while reading a book, it’s difficult to enjoy it.

[–]M_Alex 0 points1 point  (1 child)

  • 50 pages per hour is fast :) But it depends on the type, number of words on a page, etc. Anyway, don't worry about speed. It's not a race. Read at your own pace.
  • Read what you like. If you prefer fact-based book over fiction - go for it! When I'm tired of literature (which I love, but sometimes you need variety) I go for journalistic books.
  • Don't let anyone pressure you into a specific genre. That said, try to experiment. For ages I ignored detective novels, only to discover that I really enjoy them.

Final thing, Polish is a strange language in terms of the difference in how we speak on an everyday basis, and how we write. But it also gives authors a lot of place for experimentation. I remember reading Varga's Tequila and having great fun with how he played with the language. To be honest, reading in Polish helped me a lot with expressing myself, so I think it's worth it. Just find something you enjoy.

Pozdrawiam!

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a Polish native speaker, the thing here is that I spent 16 years of my life outside of Poland, so my Polish isn't very good. It's good enough to study Mathematics at a university, but not good enough to write letters or e-mails without any help for example. The biggest issue I have with our language is grammar and sentence structure. I hate the fact that Polish has a lot of variations for the same word, but which are used in different context. Like for example: dawać and dać, I cannot tell the difference, but there is one! Another thing I have issues with is the sentence structure, because I often just "translate" sentences word by word from German/English into Polish. So I often have the verb at the last place in the sentence, like "Po tym, jak hamburgera zjadłem, pomyśliłem gdzie bilet mogę kupić". I try to correct myself if I talk or write, but sometimes I forget about it.

These are just 2 of the numerous examples, and it's a pitty that I can talk and write in English better than in Polish

[–]12Purple 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have a friend that has a certain ADHD affliction that makes it difficult for her to read books, so she listens to them instead. This could be a solution for you.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe, I've been told numerous times on Reddit that I either have ADHD or am on the spectrum

[–]WufflyTimeWhat If? 2 by Randall Munroe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The third point is something you're going to have to live with if you wish to improve yourself, but as a beginner, you should find authors who aren't like that. Some authors beat around the bush less than others when it comes to detail. I've found Terry Pratchett good for this (when he does "beat around the bush" he adds jokes to make it bearable), and Genevieve Cogman never struck me as one who went overly into detail, though I'm not sure whether that translates well into Polish.

[–]Psychological_Tap187 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you need fast paced action if type books. If you like horror and don’t mind gore maybe try some splatter punk or extreme horror. Trapped by j a Konrath, there are some great horror comedies like wolf hunt by Jeff strand, the cellar(first in the beast house series) by Richard laymon. There are tons of great fast paced books out there that don’t OD you on describing every minute detail.

[–]gmorkenstein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, I rarely read 50 pages in an hour. Go at your own pace. You may need one of the classic “page-turners”. I mean they’re different for everyone. But find something that really interests you.

[–]plasma_dan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • 50 pages in an hour?!?! I'm a slow reader too (I can barely read 20 in an hour) but I can still finish 1000-paged books. You just gotta put the time in; you do eventually finish them.
  • Reading doesn't have to be a thing you have to do for a set amount of time or a set length. You can read a few pages and put it down for the day. You can stop in the middle of a chapter. You don't need to allocate an hour of time to read. Just read a little here and there.
  • Read books that are only inherently interesting to you. Reading shouldn't feel like a chore, and if you're reading something you enjoy the time should just fly by and you'll forget you were even reading.
  • If you gravitate toward only non-fiction, there's tons of it out there. Chuck Klosterman, James Baldwin, Carl Sagan. Biographies, psychology, culture, music, sports, history, philosophy, astronomy. There's gotta be some topics that you naturally gravitate toward.

[–]glkuzi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you can find several books that are you already read in English and read these books again, but in Polish. Moreover, there is such a thing as a parallel books - this is a book with aligned sentences in two languages, and it could be helpful for understanding different grammar structure of languages. But the main point is to find an interesting book - in this case you will really want to read it fully (at least it has worked for me)

[–]CalligrapherPutrid56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said it yourself, reading is like listening to someone for hours and that thought alone has helped me learn how to be a better reader. If I resonate with their tone or the personality they're trying to convey, or they say something interesting, then it's interesting. If not then it takes a little more effort on my part to get what they're saying.

Think of patience as a threshold that helps you empathize or understand someone different from you. When someone is beating around the bush, in a conversation you can look disinterested or tell them to get to the point. You can take it or leave it, but there are benefits to be had when reading something outside of your comfort zone.

Reading hundreds of pages at a time doesn't always work for everyone. Some of the most intelligent people I know really take things slow. They might read 10 pages here and there, but they devour every nuance of books they read and they know really quickly if they're not going to enjoy something. It took me a long time before I figured out that a slow reading speed does not mean I'm an idiot.

Over COVID, a couple of my buddies have taken to doing on online book club which has been helpful in keeping me on a regular reading schedule. Being about to talk about the books that I've been reading has also been a huge boon.

[–]KimBrrr1975 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing that tends to fall by the wayside is that reading is a *skill*. Despite the fact we start to learn it when we are very young by recognizing symbols and letters and numbers, reading is something that has to be practiced and built up over time, so if you aren't a big reader and want to build it up, you need to treat it just like your body in the gym and do it a little at a time, progressively. Just because you are 24 doesn't mean you should expect to read X pages in Y time, or whatever. Read 10 pages, and then the next day/next time you read, aim for 12 pages. Or read for 30 minutes, and then the next time read for 35 minutes, whatever measurement works best for you. It takes your brain time to make those new connections, along with your eyes to adjust. Your eyes are muscles and if you don't use them in a variety of ways, the muscle weakens like any other which can cause headaches and other things. If you have always gotten headaches while reading, then an eye visit is definitely a good place to start on that front.

Read stuff you enjoy in writing styles you like. Some authors are world builders, they spend a lot of time on detail. Because some readers like detail. Some like flowery prose with fancy words. Some just like the story to move along. I like a bit of everything. When I want a fast moving story I like rrue crime or detective novels or psychological thrillers. There's no rule about what you can read or enjoy. One of my kids only reads non-fiction and only online. Another one likes true crime and horror books. Another one of my kids reads graphic novels. There's a huge variety out there and you don't have to read when you don't like. An underutilized resource when you don't know where to start is a librarian. Hit up a local library and tell them what you like (or don't like) and see what suggests they have. Plus side, you can check out books for free and if you don't like them you just bring them back (assuming your country has libraries). Often you can do this with university libraries as well, especially if they are public schools. A lot of people don't know that. They do prioritize the books for the students but if they aren't marked as being used for class, the public can get a library card and use the library too.

[–]incredibleinkpen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I'm a slow reader, I can't even finish 50 pages in 1 hour"

The amount of pages you read in an hour doesn't equate to you being a better reader, just a quicker one. Secondly, if you're timing how many pages you're reading during a certain set of time, you aren't really losing yourself in the book - you're more concerned with finishing the thing.

"Books like to describe every scene in high detail, instead of going over to the next scene so I know how the plot continues."

This is the beauty of the written form, it goes into greater detail than formats such as television and film. You could argue it requires more work/imagination from the participant since it's not passive consumption, too, so that makes it very rewarding when you find connections with an author's writing.

It sounds to me like you've got the desire to read, which is the most important thing. Maybe just start with some small self-help books and take it from there.

[–]Protistaysobrevive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've struggled for years getting into some difficult readings I needed for work, and recently have break the 'spell' while microdosing lsd. Just saying.

[–]EdenMaryoles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry what? I pat myself on the back when I finish 20 pages an hour!

[–]Von_Scranhammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought I hated reading too until I read something I was genuinely interested in.

Also, who cares how many pages you read in an hour - it isn’t a competition. Most people read for pleasure when they get out of education.

Also also, reading 50 pages in one sitting (even with breaks) is a lot for casual reading.

Here’s my suggestion:

• Find a book on a subject you’re passionate about.

• Buy some of the tiny sticky tabs.

• Divide the number of pages by 30/31 depending on how many days are in the month.

• Read just those pages per day - a 400 page book is broke down to just 14 pages a day over 30 days.

• You’ll read 12 books per year.

I did this in 2021. I then did it again in 2022 but I now read 2 books per month.

[–]InfiniteTreeClimb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read ‘Dark Matter’, it’s super fast pace, reads like a screenplay, plot will keep you engaged

[–]shitsandgiggles2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was entirely unenthusiastic about reading all through HS and college. Now at 27, I've fallen absolutely in love with it. 50 pages per hour is not bad at all, give yourself more credit! Stick to what you like to read and find enthusiasm in that. I would also try audiobooks as well.

[–]jonmuller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of my favorite parts about reading books & watching films (my two biggest hobbies) is that they both let me disconnect fron the outside world. Nothing beats putting my phone down, going outside with a cup of coffee and not having any outside distractions. It helps with being transported to a different world for a few hours and is a fantastic stress reliever.

The more you put the technology away, the more focused you'll become & the greater your attention span will grow. I'm similar in age to you and almost everyone I know comments on my attention span - something I credit limited social media use with. It takes serious time to break these bad habits but the more you get at it the better you'll be.

I may be biased because I love doing these things so much but I'm really happy that I can disconnect from the world and not feel antsy. A lot of people our age struggle to do this and it's a skill I've honed over the years.

[–]BasedWang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just straight up fall asleep a few pages in. I can't do it

[–]tesseract_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe try short stories or essays? They won’t be as long, so there’s less time for the filler it sounds like you don’t like.

[–]RustCohlesponytail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you need to read 50 pages in an hour? Read for how long you want to then stop, you might enjoy it then.

[–]Lyric_99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try short stories if you want to read prose that quickly advances to the next scene.

[–]Background-Touch1198 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start with thriller novellas, long folk lores and the kind.

[–]chocokatzen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quit boring books, there's always others.

I definitely don't count my page speed (I guess this would mean something if every page needed the same amount of comprehension and was the same font) but that certainly isn't a race.

[–]Motor-Neighborhood11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Instead of counting pages, try just doing a chapter or two. Stephen King is an author that I can blow through quickly, especially his short stories. Finding a subject that interests you can open your world of reading quickly. If you dread picking up the book once you’re three chapters in do not finish it! Life is too short to waste it on a book that you are hating. I personally have found that reading before bed is the best time for me. My mind is calmer and less distracted, but I also take my tincture and fall asleep mid chapter often, oops.

[–]MissAngela66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with the eye exam idea.

Read what interests you not necessarily what's on the best seller list.

Ask a librarian for a recommendation based on what you think you'd like. They can be very helpful. I'm sure they could suggest something that isn't too descriptive. I myself read a book once that was torture to read. I don't need to know the color of the wind pal. Just tell the story. 😊

Perhaps do a set time for reading - maybe 10 minutes at a time then build from that.

[–]Solarat1701 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something that helped me read more was getting books from libraries, so I had a concrete time limit on how long I could put off reading the book. I hope that might help you.

[–]__scarlettbegonias__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you want a perspective change i would say this: the reason why books are so powerful is inherently because they take a while to go through. the information is valuable because it is served over a long form medium, not short bites of information like you get from tik tok, instagram etc.. books are meant to be thought about and read over multiple times. that’s how i was always taught to read and move through books. to treat the book like a conversation with the writer, to read paragraphs and think about what they mean and then read them again. to annotate the margins and think on things for a while. it’s not supposed to be a fast process. in my eyes, if it is, you are doing it wrong

[–]jesuisuncapybara 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! I know what you feel :) I hardly read until I graduated from high school. Then I tried to give "Wuthering heights" a chance, because someone had recommended me that. It turned out to be a really amazing book (not like that shit we learned in school). But! It was incredibly hard: I read very slowly and hardly finish 10 pages before my mind was blowing up. Then I turned on the audiobook and continued to follow the text with my eyes. It was a really difficult quest, but after that I realized there are amazing books in this world which are worth it! It helped me with motivation. I began to read often, but with a small number of pages. Over time I could read more and more. After ten years I read 35-50 books a year with my turtle pace, but with great pleasure. (I hope you understand this awful English, I'm here to practice it)

So my advice is: 1. Don't give up and keep trying with different books. Be proud about every little progress; 2. Find someone to debate. You can argue about a book even if you haven't read it to the the end. Tell someone with arguments why you don't want to finish a book and why you don't like it. It helps you with express yourself. Read a book with little bits and try to analyze what you like and what you don't and why in each bit. 3. Google the authors which don't drown in the details or find a storybook; 4. Read "Breakthrough Rapid Reading" by Peter Kump. It helped me to understand why I read so slowly and to increase my speed and focus a little. 5. Don't be upset if you don't like "the great classic" or popular books, because a lot of them are overrated.

Good luck!

[–]Putina1960 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No advice. You described my situation perfectly. Thank you.

[–]CarelessShop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read a few page turners. Highly recommend Dark Matter by Blake Crouch.

[–]forestfaey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read what your interested in - it seems you might like non-fiction books a lot better. Self-help, memoirs, biographies, history, science books etc. Why try to force yourself to read fiction if it's not your thing? Nonfiction can help as much with language skills.

Also, it's easier when it fun. Don't give yourself difficult targets of 50 pages a day. Instead, aim for something smaller and time based e.g. read for 10 mins a day. If you are into reading that day, you can read more. But there is a balance between motivating yourself with goals and making it a chore.

[–]CowboyMoses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before you start reading, set a bookmark at your planned stopping point. That way you know how long you’re going to read and you have a goal other than the end of the book. Good way to develop a habit of reading.

[–]meikomomo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was the same until I figured out what kind of genre of books I like. Just because you like reading doesn’t mean you’d like all books. Ask yourself what kind of movies you like and start there :)

[–]nitropuppy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Practice

Set a timer for 15-30 minutes a day and go somewhere with no distractions. Maybe a room with no tv. Or outside on a nice day. Or a quiet coffee shop where you can reward yourself with a latte. Or maybe even take yourself out for a meal or a beer somewhere during off hours like a tuesday night or something. Put your phone away. Take out your book and read for the 15-20 minutes. Then you can eat or drink or whatever. The idea is to associate reading with something positive and to remove all distractions and to build a habit/learn to focus. Eventually you can increase the time and change locations etc

[–]Iggster2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about giving short stories a try? Or if you're more into fact-based pieces, essays or long-form journalism?

[–]scarletseasmoke [score hidden]  (0 children)

First, figure out why you get the headaches. Maybe you have slight double vision or a processing disorder. Try different fonts and color overlays, do a double vision self test, see an optometrist, etc. It can affect patience as well.

Second... Possible ADHD? Even if you just suspect it, or have the tendency to either get bored of tasks in 5 seconds or not notice you've been doing it for 5 hours, look up ADHD reading tricks. Often helps with the "beating around the bush" effect, no matter if you're actually ADHD or not.

Running with that assumption: If you don't have sensory sensitivities that make you easily overwhelmed (comorbidities are "fun", autism+ADHD especially), blast music and multitask. Or try listening to the audiobook while reading the book and pacing around. Generally audiobooks are good because as you get used to it, you can increase speed (some people regularly go 3× for pleasure reading), plus you can usually find abridged books to start with.

And pick things you're interested in. It's okay to read nonfiction about the history of engineering or the dryest scifi ever (Polish authors of old have great scifi), your main goal is getting used to reading and picking up language skills anyway. If autism and ADHD actually happen to play a role here, your best chance to get reading is with a hyperfocus topic or a special interest, and if not it's still the best to read about what you like.

And start with short fiction or articles. Nobody has the spoons to chew through 800 pages of something they picked up just to pick something up, but a 3 page short story is over before you had the chance to give up.

[–]Naive_Combination_39 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Read manga, offloads some of the brain work to the book because it’s drawn.

I prefer manga over comics because they are black and white. I find comics/graphic novels to be a nightmare to read.

[–]whateveroasis[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, no manga or comics, it has to be a "high standard official language" and no colloquial language

[–]Naive_Combination_39 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you need to read your own post again. Doesn’t sound very “I want to change my mind”-y.