Youre trying way too hard to come off as an intellectual.
Anyway..
Yes! You downplaying the numbers of and evils of communist regimes and even calling them noble is similar to those who defend fascism. They claim the same. It’s literally the same argument.
Instead of crying about the Black Book of Communism, how about you give the “correct” numbers or tell us where they got it wrong. Sure, many will acknowledge that its flawed but theres no denying death on a massive scale. Even if one were to cut the number in half, its, staggering and there’s the inconvenient fact that it failed disastrously everywhere it was attempted.
Believe it or not, you can hate both fascism and communism. Condemning one isnt defending the other.
Try it. Condemn Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, Pinochet, etc and see if you get much objection. You won’t. You’ll get almost universal agreement. Then go ahead and in the same manner, condemn Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pot, etc, you’ll have people wearing Che t-shirts falling over themselves to defend.
All of them are evil. All of them think they have noble aspirations.
Tolerance for jokes? I don’t like them but theyre indeed jokes unlike “punch a Nazi” and “bash the fash” and the great majority of those assaulted weren’t Nazis/fascists.
Still.. Here… I Amarretto-cowboy, condemn jokes about the assault/murder of communists.
Your turn. Condemn “jokes” such as “punch a Nazi” or “bash the fash”
Moving on… What right wingers are you talking about? How far right? The average person on the right 100% acknowledges the genocide of indigenous and slavery of those with African descent. If you’re referencing the absolute hardcore far right, then yeah. They’re universally condemned though. Even the Proud Boys openly condemn them.
Seriously? “Imaginary crimes of communist regimes”? I can’t believe you said that. Thats right on par with fascist crimes denial. WTF do you mean by that? Was Holodomor imaginary? Was the Great Leap Forward imaginary? Were the Killing Fields imaginary? The German Expulsion was imaginary? There were roughly as many victims in the Kolyma gulag alone as there were in Auschwitz. Not to mention the relocation and oppression of indigenous that the USSR and China committed in order to create their new utopia.
My God… Talk about the mask slipping. Just say youre a communist at this point. Its painfully obvious.
Onto Trump. No matter how you slice it, he still never called Nazis “very fine people”. You can spin here and there and just about everyone acknowledges Trump who is awful with words could have and should have handled it far better. Btw… Antifa didnt have a permit, the white supremacists did. Like it or not, thats the way it is. 1st amendment applies to everyone. There would have been no violence had Antifa attacked the protest.
Had Antifa not been there, the result would have been a few hundred idiots getting universally condemned as they returned home with their heads down. Instead, we had a riot which resulted in a piece of garbage ramming his car through a crowd and killing a young woman.
Still didnt call Nazis “very fine people”. He condemned them by name. Anyone who tries to claim that Trump didnt or doesn’t condemn white supremacy despite him doing so multiple times probably has some level of TDS and/or is lying.
I grew up just outside of Atlantic City. I hated Trump since i was a kid. My own mother protested him on the boardwalk 20 years ago in a hurricane. I hated him when he was getting lauded by the celebrities that now swear they hate him (Kathy Griffin, Spike Lee, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Ellen Degenerous, Oprah Winfrey, etc). I hated him when everyone else was gleefully watching him fire people on The Apprentice.
I hated him before the media changed their minds about him and called him a fascist overnight. The media inarguably distorts Trump’s words. The “Very fine people” bit is just one of a plethora of examples. The media bending over backwards to distort him only delegitimizes valid criticisms of him. Most people i talk to anymore just roll their eyes whenever the media comes out with another Trump hit piece because its almost guaranteed to be at least 90% bullshit and a quick google search will debunk it.
Im a proud 2 time voter of Obama. Lifelong Democrat. I have largely the same political views now as I did 10 years ago. I didn’t leave the left. Overton window. The left left me. I’m still a liberal.
I’m for
-mixed economy
-separation of church and state
-pro gay marriage/LGBT rights
-being pro-choice for the most part
-legal immigration
-paths to citizenship
I could go on but you get the point.
I don’t recall our conversation about guns. My opinion on guns largely aligns with Bernie Sanders’ stance. Rural vs urban. Different areas, states have different wants/needs/uses for guns. Im all all for background checks which are required for all public sales. The lone issue is private sales.
In my opinion, as a legal gun owner in the extremely anti-gun state of New Jersey, I believe there should be required training and testing to obtain a firearm license. Similar to getting a driver’s license.
In my state even if one has a pristine background record, they can purchase a weapon after 3-6 months of waiting for background checks, fingerprinting, local police approval and a few sponsors(no seriously) then upon purchase wait 5 days for another background check(no seriously) then they can take a firearm home having never used one.
The great majority of gun crime in this country is committed with illegally obtained firearms.
I’m a center-left liberal Democrat who hated Trump even back when he was a Democrat. Im what a liberal used to be. Logical, open minded, etc.
I’m a liberal. Youre a communist.