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[–]PaninoConPorchetta 165 points166 points  (30 children)

Dude is a machine. Hopefully he wont kill his body in the gym like Cain

[–]McSpitfire 79 points80 points  (25 children)

It'll just be a few steady drills, light pad work and lifting some kettlebells. Anything more and i'd flat out call him stupid. He took some big shots in the fight. The guy is a beast though.

[–]PaninoConPorchetta 55 points56 points  (15 children)

Yeah I'm sure he's just doing light workouts after that FOTY contender, but in general it seems that he's the type of guy to overtrain. All the talk of Khamzat being a monster in the gym, training 5 times a day.

[–]McSpitfire 32 points33 points  (7 children)

Till was saying on a podcast the other day that he trains 4 times a day... Khamzat is 28 next month. He's had an injury free career so far from avoiding damage and steamrolling guys but I'm not sure how long that is sustainable tbh.

[–]Mikejg23 15 points16 points  (5 children)

That's not sustainable but it also all depends on what his training consists of. If some of that training is foam rolling, stretching, yoga etc it's a lot different than wrestling practice 4x a day. But generally yeah all the older fighters will say they needed to start training smarter

[–]payday_vacay 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Everyone in that gym says they spar hard af too, I’d hope he’ll step back from that as he starts fighting only the top guys from now on. Guram said new people at the gym are always surprised by how hard they go and a lot can’t handle it

[–]Mikejg23 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I'm not a fighter or coach but the almost universal consensus now seems to be that hard sparring has it's place but should absolutely not be a frequent occurrence. Like it's still needed in strategic situations, but for the most part past a certain intensity it just causes damage

[–]RightMushroom7 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It's super necessary really early on to understand the timing and pacing of more of a real fight when you have had very few in your career so far. After that, I think it should be seldom done

[–]Mikejg23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you definitely need to do it at times (you don't want to go into even an amateur fight without knowing what you're getting into). But the gym wars every week don't seem useful

[–]mixed_martial_milk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You definitely don't need to spar hard to understand timing though

[–]yu73Ta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Darren also said that Khamzat doesn't break his body, he trains smart. But Khamzat himself also said he trains 4-5 times a day in training camp but like 2 times a day outside of training camp.

[–]OneSeraph 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Actually he trains six days a week, but five of those days he trains three days a week. One of those days he trains two days of the week. So, six days a week he’ll be training.

[–]Sheikh_Left_Hook 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First thou fightest the Holy co-main event fight.

Then thou must train to three. Three shall be the number of the training and the number of the training shall be three. Four shalt thou not train, neither shalt thou train two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out.

Once the number three, being the number of the training, be reached, then fightest thou the Holy contender fight in the direction of thine foe, Dana White, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

[–]stillherewondering 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Also when he had covid, his doctors said „you need to rest and recover“ but he did start to train again and therefore got worse again and coughed blood etc

[–]yokkotI take khumshots 2 points3 points  (1 child)

i think he clarified in some interview that he was given the go-ahead to resume training by the ufc docs

iirc with brett okamoto pre jingliang

[–]payday_vacay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He took 2 weeks off then went right back to hard sparring and refused to take it easy for any decent amount of time until he’d been hospitalized multiple times

[–]yu73Ta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes they said he could train but not training hard but he jumped in on a sparring session instead haha

[–]SmokeyMcHazeTeam Adesanya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And this was proven when he got COVID, didn't stop training and coughed up blood...

[–]Galore67 0 points1 point  (6 children)

why is it bad to work out after a battle? It's not like he is doing workouts with his face. That's where the bulk of the damage is.

[–]carbocks 6 points7 points  (1 child)

your body still takes damage in a fight. It gets hit, you overwork your muscles throwing fight-ending strikes, initiating/defending takedowns and submissions, etc (although they didn't spend too much time in the ground this particular fight), not to mention the mild concussions he may have received, so rest is absolutely necessary. Light and stationary workouts may be fine, but hard workouts risks damaging you even more.

[–]gravi-tea 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Plus the weight cut.

[–]McSpitfire -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

Lol I didn’t say that it was bad?

[–]Galore67 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Anything more and i'd flat out call him stupid

thats pretty much saying its bad

[–]McSpitfire 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry, what i said was clearly unclear. I meant in regards to sparring and grappling etc. Running, lifting weights etc is fine.

[–]These-Coffee8090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got micro tears in your tendons and ligaments that need to heal.. eventually you'll rip something that can't heal on its own, and then all the sudden you have a dead-limb that you can't move. Same for other important parts of the body too, especially your back.

[–]Mundane-Lawyer-8035 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That intensity is also what made him so good. I'm sure his world class coaches know better about pacing the training than some reddit keyboard warrior.

[–]yu73Ta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm also pretty sure that after the fight, doctors took care of him so they know if or where he have damage better than people on Reddit.

[–]selliebaArgentina 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He doesn't have AKA's S&C coach so he's got that going for him.

That video of Cain doing leg presses at speed was a "oh so those knees are gone".

[–]These-Coffee8090 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cain is wearing a leg brace in his high school yearbook. He had leg injuries wayyy before AKA.

[–]These-Coffee8090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cain was already full of injuries during high school.

[–]MmaOverSportsball 85 points86 points  (1 child)

Overhead press is the best base for not getting hit by the same overhand 3 times in a row

[–]y333zy 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I was watching that shit like “ok one slipped but surely won’t happen again.. ok another but that’s the last one.. oh a third?” Lol

[–]little_shop_of_hoorsTwo Checks Bumsom | Certified Hood Classic 💵💵 39 points40 points  (0 children)

No rest brather gotta smesh thes guys

[–]AmeerVanGoghDan Hooker's broom 9 points10 points  (7 children)

Does anyone know what is the best practice for the brain after getting dropped/concussed?

I've read somewhere that the standard was to stay in a dark room and rest but it's now considered useless

[–]yell-loudTeam Volkanovski 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So I was always under the impression that you were not supposed to exercise after a concussion but I googled it because of this post and it seems like recent studies show that it can be a bit beneficial to undergo some light exercise.

Knowing Khamzat I’m not sure how light it will actually be.

[–]williepep1960This is sucks 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't know what is best practice but from my personal exp, the best way is to just chill and not do much for few days, your body is so sore, depends on how hard fight was but the body is so sore like fuck you can't do much, i guess walking maybe light training / strech is good, but you honestly feel like shit.

[–]attaboyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best practice is that the body recovers best with movement - you want to be moving blood and fluids through your muscles as much as possible to provide the quickest recovery. Doesn't have to be much, a walk, light-resistence, etc. Soreness is all the lactic acid, muscle adhesions, and bruising stuck in there ... it's hard to get moving but you will always feel better once you do and will ultimately recover sooner.

[–]Asleep-Fly-4235 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Im no doctor but i read a lot about it cuz i ised to be a massive hypochondriac and always thought im concussed lmao.

Basically some research suggested that some light exercise can be beneficial after it but nothing too heavy or intense, but you shouldnt continue if it makes your headache worse. Other than that sleep and rest a lot and avoid further head trauma.

I dunno tho i guess it depends on the severity of your concussion.

[–]RIPTheBlackPanther 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Did you seriously think you randomly had a Concussion?

[–]Asleep-Fly-4235 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No thank fuck i wasnt that crazy, but i was doing grappling sports like judo and wrestling and some occasional mma sparring and any time id get thrown hard or hit with some force id be freaking out that i have a concussion lol.

And i never got dropped or knocked out either yet i was still worried

[–]Rooksey 30 points31 points  (18 children)

I’m by no means an expert, but maybe give your body a little time to recover first?

[–]melonfacedoom 33 points34 points  (7 children)

Best way to recover always involves moving.

[–]ergoegthatis 16 points17 points  (5 children)

I completed a marathon. To recover, I started a marathon the next day.

[–]mrtuna 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm currently running a marathon. I don't intend on stopping so I never need to recover

[–]CryptoCrackoAntarctica 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good.

[–]selliebaArgentina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Started implies that you did not do well haha

[–]IrishSkip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that you Goggins?

[–]SnooFloofs9640 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you talk about a gym - yes. But I don’t think after being hit in the head by Burns you should be hit in the head again a bit lighter to improve your recovery.

[–]SexySPACsMan 20 points21 points  (3 children)

He's just lifting he's not getting punched in the head again already

[–]Rooksey 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I just figure an intense camp and brutal fight should warrant taking a week off lol

[–]WhiskyBrisky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Week before the fight is super super light training usually anyway.

[–]Bolo_strike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He sort of did that before the fight so everything he didn't push hard in the fight is probably rested enough for some light exercise. Also PR.

[–]PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You recover by doing a light workout, pretty much standard in any sport, though you do see a ton of fighters just taking a break and going wild for a week or two after the fight, but that's not really the best approach to recovery.

[–]payday_vacay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think the guys that get out of shape and blow up between camps are usually the guys that have “poor cardio”. You can’t just constantly get fat then back in shape a few times a year and expect to keep up w the guys who are always in shape year round (like Masvidal eating only fast food outside of camp lol)

[–]gijuts 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Even his mind. Last week was alot. But maybe this is how he relaxes. Either way, he has techniques to improve. Between that, new stardom, penchant to train hard, etc, I worry he's going to burn out by his 30's and maybe get tired of this. Or if he really has adversity and doesn't have a life to get him thru. I get that he's motivated to improve things for his family, which is very motivating. But I learned that you still need balance or you'll want to stop easily when things start to not go your way.

[–]Rooksey 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He seems incredibly strong mentally but that’s what I was thinking as well when I made the comment. Like constantly pushing pushing pushing is admirable, but I don’t think it’s good for somebody long term.

[–]gijuts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Look what happened when he got COVID the second time. He retired! Didn't say he needed time, just retired. Even the strongest need a mental break. GSP would even go to the beach with a honey after defending.

[–]yu73Ta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm also pretty sure that after the fight, doctors took care of him so they know if or where he have damage better than people on Reddit. Most of the damage was in his face not his body.

[–]thuxderousTeam Tristar Gym 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Khamzat needs to improve his head movement bigtime

[–]Galore67 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Future champ. Needs to work on that head movement though.

[–]applejynx 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Head movement is an issue for like 70 percent of the roster .

[–]Baisabeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who originally Was a boxing fan, the head movement is atrocious n in

[–]YamForcan I get that flair too? 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Heh moomen

[–]Bausnel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s shown in the past, he does possess the ability to slip. Kinda just fell to the wayside this fight.

[–]Broly30 6 points7 points  (2 children)

He’s an athlete that’s at the top of his game. You don’t get to that point without real dedication and sacrifice. Kobe would have been back that same night

[–]payday_vacay 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Kobe didn’t get punched in the head as much but I agree w the sentiment lol

[–]Broly30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea that’s facts. I was talking more about mentality

[–]kevemp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How dare he work for his money

[–]folouk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sigma Grindset

[–]breadbutterone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He needs it if he wants to get through beats like Usman, Adesanya, and myself.

[–]_infiniteadam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Khamzat "Beastmode" Chimaev

[–]JimJonesdrinkkoolaid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whilst this seems like a good thing on the surface (the work ethic, etc), him working himself too hard could actually be his downfall.

[–]_VoltaDark Place GSP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No rest for the weary, bruddah

[–]justdoitstoopid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Khazmat needs to get bigger braddah. Darren till breaking his back in at 170

[–]Kashm1r_Sp1r1t 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But is Till with him?

[–]yu73Ta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Till is in England

[–]Kalabula 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this abnormal? Don’t guys typically take a few days off then get back at it?

[–]These-Coffee8090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he keeps training like that he's gonna get an injury and have a short career. You can do that until you're like 29, 30 then you're inevitably gonna tear something that can't repair itself.