2 votes so far today on /links
She stole my broccoli casserole recipe
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Thu 12 Aug 2021, 0:36,
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£17.50 for a hotdog!!
That's London prices for you
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buffet_the_appetite_slayer jacked into the ICE on, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 19:59,
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He seems reasonable enough.
I'd prefer watching a range of excited dogs tackle massive hot dogs.* cats wouldn't eat that shit unless starving.
paging Dr Freud...
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 22:20,
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A friend of mine smoked 40+ a day, her cat died of lung cancer.
I mean it could have been radon...
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 20:23,
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Yeah but how many people die each year from SBD dog farts?
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 23:59,
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Do you like your animation strange & twisted?
Colin Raff might be yer man.
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fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 12:33,
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that was well done
though gilliam cast such a long shadow that anything in a similar vein I find myself comparing to him
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Thu 12 Aug 2021, 0:41,
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GC but not for ages
Meant to say it gets more interesting around the 55 second mark!
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insignificantsnivellinglittleturd I Like Peas, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 11:33,
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Fantastic
and other superlatives
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George Blank my 2nd last sig was funny, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 16:03,
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That ancient blues player at the start
Can't imagine what he must have seen in his life
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simbosan has his calendar set to, Thu 12 Aug 2021, 0:08,
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Zen dude is soothing
Couldn't resist the title.
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 1:53,
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Tom Baker has an important message for you.
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Ambegris likes his tea stirred anti-clockwise, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 23:46,
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7 minutes of pure stop motion genius
How long must this have taken...
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simbosan has his calendar set to, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 23:15,
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About seven months.
The clue's in the title.
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jonbob sporadically communicating from wikiholes unknown, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 0:42,
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Only took me
7 minutes 27 seconds
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George Blank my 2nd last sig was funny, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 13:08,
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Impressive number of permutations and dedication.
I'd never want to see or imagine matches ever again.
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 0:57,
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Awesome.
I'm glad I tried stop-motion the once, gave up and started cheating after an hour.
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fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 11:19,
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I tried stop motion once
Never got anywhere!
(I crack me up)
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simbosan has his calendar set to, Thu 12 Aug 2021, 0:09,
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motorbike near miss
sorry it's reddit
edit: a more complete - non reddit - version is here thanks to horrid ("1:56 has the rear facing footage") www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPrHj1nPt0
r/nextfuckinglevel - Jesus take the handlebar and guide me
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At least some of that is CG
Which makes me suspect all of it!
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tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 20:48,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPrHj1nPt0
1:56 has the rear facing footage
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Cheers.
That's quite horrifying.
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tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 7:11,
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Jesus clearly ignored the handlebars of the other two then.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 20:58,
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Give him a break, he's only got two hands.
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 21:16,
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I can see why he wants to retire this year.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 21:08,
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years ago, I'd guess in 2000, an italian girl we were sharing a flat with was fucking the chief mechanic for yamaha, and invited us to brands hatch to watch the superbikes
the rider was australian, I've forgotten his name, but we sat in their garage on pit lane and saw all the prep and all the other teams doing their thing. In the first race he won, but flew off over the handlebars at the end of the straight in the next race, and he'd fucked his arm in some way. suddenly we were kicked out back to the great unwashed, I suspect because they were about to dope him up, as he competed in the final race, the tough bastard. Im not that into it, but they fucking fly when you see them up close, like they're sitting on rockets. the tv doesnt do it justice
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 0:20,
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Rarely does video capture the intensity of riding bikes.
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:35,
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Christ, have you got a story for every fucking reply on here?
You should write a book called "Cumquat May and the fantasmigal adventures" or something
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Fadgebadger (1 like), Wed 11 Aug 2021, 7:20,
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It’s a form of one upmanship employed to cover inadequacy and insecurity. He lacks the self awareness to see how tedious and implausible it makes him.
In other words: Cool story, bro.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 7:55,
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speaking of anecdotes, I recall how every attempt for you to call me a liar has hilariously blown up in your face
though you still occasionally work up the courage to have another crack, but these days only if someone else does it first do you put your big girl pants and try to project your own inferiority complex onto me. you think it's one upmanship because to some jealous triggered shut-in like yourself, anything I do seems that way. good
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 12:16,
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I'll tell you what else I was thinking. Now i could be wrong, but I reckon swagatha christie is your sockpuppet
it's obviously an experienced b3tan, suddenly appearing a month ago but getting stuck into arguments right away
and
*has a pretentious literary username. a frustrated GSCE lit failure like yourself just couldn't resist it
*starts posting PC gone mad stuff that would get spectator readers in a tizzy like the vid below, which crucially, prufrock doesn't comment on. nobody else goes looking for that sort of stuff apart from the places prufrock haunts where they mock anything 'woke'
*uses prufock-like tired pretentious phrases like Quelle Surprise!
*prufock like amateur internet arguing like "no you're upset". you've even mimicked the basic format of a rejoinder I used against swagatha/prufock in the attempt above, but I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery to those without the wit to be original
*gets into an argument with me and loses. classic prufrock
*prufocks main account hasn't insulted me for a while, and I'd been making some conciliatory comments such that I was beginning to think he'd found some maturity and we could put his tedious obsession with me behind us. fat chance. Suddenly he's all triggered and yapping after I argue with swagatha
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I reckon I'm right. You can't avoid or hide being a cunt by just switching accounts, prufrock. Your personality will out. Ha
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 13:12,
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Lol. It’s almost as if I’ve touched a nerve.
I love the sock theory. It’s very funny that you think that Christie’s hackneyed whodunnits are literary. I’m more John Christie than Agatha Christie. I interpreted it as a footballers’ wives joke (Rooney/Vardy).
To be fair, I had a theory about brb being a sockcooker sock. I don’t think that’s true anymore though.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 17:11,
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Speaking of anecdotes
Right, I'll tell you an anecdote! In 1975 I was catching the London train from Crewe station. It was very crowded, I found myself in a last-minute rush for the one remaining seat with a tall, good-looking man with collar-length hair, it was the seventies - buckaroo! When I sat down on the chair, I looked up and realised it was none other than Peter Purves! It was at the height of his Blue Peter fame! He said "You jammy bastard!" and quick as a flash, I replied, "Don't be blue, Peter!" Needless to say, I had the last laugh, now fuck off!
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poking your turtle head out of talk, are we?
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 13:50,
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come on mate, this ongoing wankfest between you and poofrock is tedious AF
Just have a punchup or have some sweatily delirious sex with him and get it over with. Nae cunt's impressed with the constant back and forth, no wonder /links has got its reputation with posters like you two having a spasticated dick swinging contest all over the shop.
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agreed, it got tiresome a long time ago, even for me
I have been trying to avoid triggering him, and if you look at our interactions over the last couple of months I've tried to say some nice things to him instead for all the good it's done .But I think I've inadvertently insulted his sockpuppet and now we're back to square one, if we ever went anywhere to begin with. I'll do my best to ignore his weird obsession and not respond to his abuse, not with the button which seems a cop out, more generally ignoring him. fair enough?
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:17,
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fine with me mate
Dunno why you don't just join in with /talk if you don't like it on /links very much, it's a relatively welcoming crowd as long as you don't take yourself seriously.
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I did years ago, but all the people I knew there moved on, as with anything
I like most of the links people, just a few odd ones I don't get on with
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:25,
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that's a bit of an exaggeration,
still, it's not as if B3ta is rollicking along like it used to that I'm somehow distracting from, there's few of us left and some dweebs contribute nothing but snark. If I didn't think it might be interesting or entertaining, to some at least, I wouldn't say it. Thats kind of the point I thought, putting up shit to amuse each other. And I'm no bullshitter for all my faults, if I tell a story it's true enough. it is lockdown here, so perhaps I'm posting noticeably more. apologies if I'm hurting your eyes
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 12:28,
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love a bit of bob
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 12:35,
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I used to crew the score board for the Isle of Man TT
- when I was a Scout, and when the score board was chalk and slate and analog clocks.
The noise was fucking intense. The smell was choking, especially for the classic races. The bikes were going past so fast you couldn't see the numbers.
We were a foot or so from the track, with a waist-high crash barrier between us death. You'd start this "volunteering" (it was close to mandatory) at about 9 years old. None of us were over 15.
Health and safety? Nah, child labour, tax haven laws and millions in tourist money .
I went back a few years ago: they give them ear plugs now and have a big perspex barrier between them and the bikes.
Still all crewed by kids though.
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Invisible Wizard - 5th level Onanist, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 17:46,
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is this television? I do not own a television.
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Woodkovsky ☹️➝🚻➝🚽➝😣➝💩➝🧻➝😁, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 14:32,
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I don't own a format either
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 16:06,
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Are you still upset at the introduction of the talkies and the demise of music hall?
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New-fangled poppycock. What's wrong with a troupe of mummers?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:46,
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Multicellular life and sexual reproduction?
Disgusting modern filth, I calls it!
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Invisible Wizard - 5th level Onanist, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 18:29,
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I remember when this was all hydrogen
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My Name was saying words inside your head on, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:07,
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It's never been the same since it all went bang...
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Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 16:46,
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This
m.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9pJzZ1XGI
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:40,
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Cancelling Venture Bros should be categorised as a crime against humanity.
Best TV show ever.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 15:01,
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That's awesome news
Adultswim shall rue the day they cancelled it!
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In fairness, only 12 people ever watched past the first season of Metalocalypse.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:03,
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Absolutely tremendous TV! I've heard rumours that a feature length film has been commissioned, though that doesn't do much to make up for its cancellation.
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Quiver Search for FATALISTS on Spotify, Amazon, Apple, &c, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 16:31,
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Like a lot of Adult Swim stuff
it's on the Channel 4 player
www.channel4.com/programmes/the-venture-bros
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Ambegris likes his tea stirred anti-clockwise, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:04,
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LyricJam
"This system supports songwriting process, whereby artists play musical instruments, while the system listens to the audio stream via a microphone and generates lyric lines in real time to match the music being played"
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 8:56,
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If you play the tune from an existing song does it generate similar lyrics to the original?
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Needs to be tested with the Trololo song
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 12:47,
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this could be very interesting
Like that hipster girl who read out random shit from magazines live cos... ART.
I shall ART too!
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simbosan has his calendar set to, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 22:59,
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This article popped up today, continuing a theme
seems highly speculative, but interesting nonetheless
1,000-year-old remains in Finland may be non-binary iron age leader
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 5:13,
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Only if you think that chromosomal abnormalities
have anything to do with so-called gender identity. Which they don't.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 9:20,
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...
And, of course, an XXY male is - drumroll - male. So still binary. Because that's what sex is.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 9:41,
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Indeed, there are only 10 sexes of people
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 10:23,
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Please, let there be a Middlesex
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 10:48,
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Intersex is certainly a real phenomenon.
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:33,
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DSDs are sex-specific.
There is no "third" where one is neither make nor female.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:58,
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I'm intersex, have been since I discovered a jazz mag in my dad's wardrobe
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 14:07,
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it was also that they'd be buried with both male and female grave goods
but anything else seems highly speculative, such as claims like "might have viewed them as non-binary". It's a rare find and probably signifies something about the period, but I don't think there's enough to build any reliable narrative in the absence of other evidence.
If I was taking a punt, I'd hazard that in those superstitious days in non-christian european societies, freakish people were often looked on as having something magical or spirit connected about them, and that might account for the high status position, rather than some sort of normalisation of transgender roles hitherto unevidenced. Although, there is observed anthropological evidence of acceptance of transgender roles in relatively more recent east siberian hunter gatherer societies, almost always taking a medicine man/woman type role, but a congolese pygmy is closer to finland than a chukchi reindeer herder as the crow flies. and speculation should never be more than a placeholder, as people often latch onto it when it suits their own wishful narrative
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 10:44,
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You're smuggling a lot in even there.
"Transgender roles" implies that our (sexist) intuitions about what is "proper" to which sex - and "gender" is nothing but that - and therefore about what is "transgender" by dint of defying those intuitions are both normal and normative. But I'm not sure that there's evidence for normality, and there's no basis at all for their normativity.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 12:57,
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to be honest I can't remember what label they gave them, it probably wasn't transgender, it not being used at the time
But transgender roles as I've used it just means someone behaving as a trangender person does (i.e. dressing and acting like the opposite sex) I wouldn't read any more into it than that, unless you're trying make some other point.
I just remember years ago reading a book about some polish anthropologist still in the time of the czars, before their way of life was mostly wiped out, reporting on shamanism in the koryaks and chukchis and how male shaman dressed as woman and took on feminine behaviours (and even male partners if memory serves). She postulated that shamans might have been women in the past but men took over and adopted that gender behaviour, perhaps for it's traditional authority in their culture. It's a fair bit of different to some androgynous scot posting youtube vids, granted.
And I did say mine was speculation, I just think it's more likely than their take, which has a whiff of imposing modern values on quite a different time and culture
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:39,
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I dug up excerpts from the book by Czaplick. sounds quite like transgender if you ask me, albeit a quite culturally specific one:
Bogoras distinguishes various degrees of 'transformation' among the Chukchee:
1. The shaman, or the sick person at the bidding of a shaman, arranges and braids his hair like a woman.
2. The change of dress: Kimiqai, for instance, were woman's clothes by order of the spirits. In his youth he had been afflicted by in illness and had been greatly benefited by the change of dress. At the time described he was an elderly man with a beard, and had a wife and four children.[5]
3. The change in the habits of one sex is shown when the man 'throws away the rifle and the lance, the lasso of the reindeer herdman, and the harpoon of the seal-hunter, and takes to the needle and the skin-scraper '.[6] He learns the use of these quickly, because the 'spirits' help him all the time. Even his pronunciation changes from masculine to feminine. His body loses its masculine appearance, and he becomes shy.
4. In rare cases the 'soft man' begins to feel himself a woman; he seeks for a lover, and sometimes marries.
The marriage is performed with the usual rites, and the union is as durable as any other. The 'man' goes hunting and fishing, the 'woman' does domestic work. Bogoras thinks they cohabit modo Socratis, though they are sometimes said to have mistresses in secret and to produce children by them.[1] The wife does not, however, change her name, though the husband sometimes adds the name of his wife to his own.
Public opinion is always against them,[2] but as the transformed shamans are very dangerous, they are not opposed and no outward objections are raised. Each 'soft man' is supposed to have a special protector among the 'spirits', who is usually said to play the part of a supernatural husband, the 'kele-husband' of the 'transformed' one. This husband is supposed to be the real head of the family and to communicate his orders by means of his 'transformed' wife. The human husband, of course, has to execute these orders faithfully under fear of prompt punishment.[3]
www.sacred-texts.com/sha/sis/sis08.htm
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 16:00,
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I looked up what a "modo socratis" relationship was , as Ive never heard the term
but the only thing google threw up was that same paper (which was pretty well cited of late, i'm assuming because it supports many current agendas) and b3ta links itself which is pretty fast indexing. So I reckon she meant to say platonic but it's just a typo, unless its some rare archaic term only used by 19th century polish anthropologists
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:45,
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I like the following sentence from the original paper:
"The archaeological literature is full of men and women."
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 9:38,
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It's been peer-reviewed, so we're just going to have to trust that's true
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 14:12,
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What a load of utter
bobbins.
Gender identity is what historians call an 'actor's category.' This means that it can only be said to exist if there is positive evidence that the people of the time and place concerned both believed it to exist, and discussed their lives in these terms. There's no indication whatsoever that there was even such thing as gender at this time, let alone non-binary identity.
Sex on the other hand is a physiological category, not a cultural one. My guess is that this female was good at killing with swords, and was recognised as such by their fellow killing-with-swords brethren.
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well, this was a male with Klinefelter syndrome, so there goes that narrative, hagar
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:50,
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theres some DNA evidence, and certainly none saying it's a woman
but it's probably as likely as their own speculation, and yours sounds way cooler
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 3:26,
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Gender might not have been a concept that most were aware of, but we've always had 'queer' people
and lots of people demonised, tortured and killed for behaviour outside of their established norms and values, and rarer cases of people celebrated for the same.
I mean that's just super obvious.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:02,
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"Might not have been a concept that most were aware of"
So you can have a gender identity without knowing it?
What is it, then?
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:15,
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Concepts can apply to you without your knowledge.
'That's just the way things are' is how you might think about things which, as it turns out later, just aren't.
Traditional gender roles existed even if they were not identified at the time. This should be super obvious to anyone with a passing interest in, say, language for example.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 17:44,
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did you know
that in 20 years' time it'll turn out that you were a 'knob' all along?
More seriously, how do you know that social roles really were gendered - couldn't females just as easily have been thought in terms of 'property', with their clothing etc as signifiers of this?
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Yes of course. But just as the progressive policies of 20 years ago are the conservative policies of today, some of us will still be less wrong than those clinging to the norms and values of the past.
I'm not saying they were gendered; the verbing of that term implies some kind of structural entity imparting gender, a concept that would not be in fashion for centuries. I'm saying that there were norms, values and expectations made of people on the basis of their sex, and that those who did not fit those roles were called queer, and perhaps burned at the stake, drowned in a river, crushed with rocks, pulled apart by horses, or all of the above.
I think the roles existed because of the universal(?) depiction of men and women having separate roles, use of gender pronouns, the existence of feminine/masculine words, and from a passing knowledge of literature and history. The division of the sexes comes up in a lot of origin myths and legends, for example.
The culture we find ourselves in evolved, no one generation's culture is radically different from that of their grandparents, and I think that rule probably holds over most of our history.
Culture ultimately emerges from biology, so the culture of our pre-human ancestors probably didn't radically change much either.
If women were thought of as property, they must have first been thought of as women. Their designation as property comes from their sexual identity.
The concept of woman is culturally loaded for us, and it would have been for our ancestors. We can point to that and describe it in terms of gender. They did not have the benefit of human and civil rights, science, freedom from religion, and magical technology to let them do that.
tl;dr: other ape cultures have roles based on sex/gender, we've probably been the same for a billion years.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 19:20,
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'Queer' is a gender and/or sexuality-related term
it has nothing to do with physiological sex. 'Pointing' to the past and saying 'it was gendered' is hugely unhelpful in that it naturalizes values that should be understood as fluid. What if it turns out gender is just a completely unhelpful way of perceiving the world? We'd have to go over the whole of history and start again. If you're interested in understandinng the past on its own terms, you will appreciate that projecting present-day values onto it is a ridiculous thing to do. It's a sign of ideological inflexibility.
Also, I personally think that culture emerges from the interaction of biology with technology. So there.
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Technology is an aspect of culture, IMO. I'm not sure how you could have technology arising without culture, but I can easily imagine culture without technology.
Physiology as it was understood then? Or as it's understood now? Surely it's unhelpful to project present day scientific norms, and it's better to accept that the world really was flat, epicycles were real, and that mice and flies spontaneously generated from inanimate matter. It's just ideological inflexibility to believe that physical, chemical and biological functions as we understand them today applied to people in the past. :eyeroll:
Yes, everything we think we know will be better explained later. We will always have to keep reappraising everything as more information comes in, just like we always have done.
Queer has your definition today, but as recently as a few decades ago it had a broader meaning. I'm using it in the broader sense to describe people who are ostracised or 'othered' for behaving outside of the norm. That's not limited to whatever equivalents of the LGBT+alphabet who were around at the time, it also includes women who thought they could do more in life than what their sex determined, and men who didn't belong in the roles assigned to them either, and of course people who we'd probably diagnose with all kinds of disorders today as well.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 21:40,
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whatever
"the world really was flat" - to all intents and purposes, it was. Until long-distance navigation became a thing.
"epicycles were real" - again, they were actually real. The stars went around in little circles across the sky. Without the need to think of the world as a globe it made perfect sense.
"mice and flies spontaneously generated" - not quite. Flies, yes. If you looked very carefully, even the smallest pieces of food were full of worms.
I think you'll find that queer meant sexual deviant in the time you're referring to. Max Nordau is the reference point really. You have to realize that anything out of the ordinary was seen as a transgression of christian morality, not some kind of optional cultural novelty.
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Your kind of relativism is silly and I poke my nose at it and blow a raspberry like so :¬P
The universe does not care how you think it works. Physical, chemical and biological 'laws'* apply without regard to the ignorance of any observer. To a MUCH, much, much, much, much MUCH lesser extent, so too do anthropological and sociological 'laws'**, even if one is not inclined to accept what we have now as true sciences.
*Whatever they truly are; the absolute truth (which may forever elude human understanding), which is wise to assume exists.***
**As above, with the assumption that the absolute fullest understanding of the hard sciences would, by inference, reveal*** and, by scientific method, confirm the truest possible understanding of the soft sciences.
***Not in a fucking religious or spiritual way, obviously.
Oh and no, queer didn't mean that at the timeS I refer to. It meant, as I say, odd, strange, peculiar, abnormal. And you will accept that that is how I'm using the word, damn you.
:)
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 23:01,
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"Odd, strange, peculiar, abnormal" *was* sexual deviance
or at least moral deviance. I admit the sexual element only really came to predominate in the early C20th. The point is that it wasn't a cultural choice then, it was a moral one.
The point I'm making is that any scientific vision that doesn't see itself a temporary stopgap until something better comes along is a bunch of hooey.*
*not that kind of hooey, you pervert.
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Moral relativism is one thing, scientific/factual relativism is just Republican Party level insane.
The word I chose includes sexually 'deviant' people, but is not limited to it.
One's sexuality is widely understood to not be a choice.
The scientific method incorporates your strangely redundant point about scientific vision.
We can't seem to agree on matters of fact, or even agree on a common lexicon, so this conversation is going nowhere!
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brb ban your nan, Wed 11 Aug 2021, 14:42,
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90% of archeology seems to be trying to get your shitty research in the papers
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 20:16, Reply)
I found this searching for something, and I don't have a clue
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cowcat Hitler was a better artist than me, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 2:47,
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But this guy's back story is more interesting.
The skunk was startled, and sprayed its musk directly into Blood's eyes. As a result of this unfortunate incident, he suddenly acquired the ability to play the blues, and he became a faith healer.
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cowcat Hitler was a better artist than me, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 12:18,
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hopefully he doesn't find out that his powers need refreshed from time to time
although the 'Skunk juicing myself again blues' might be inspired
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 12:39, Reply)
frantal vice - better than Miami Vice
something I never knew existed. Quite brilliant
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 1:24, Reply)
I saw this a few months back
Can't believe I didn't post it here, but I think I was too excited trawling to see if I could find one to buy!
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tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 8:08,
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Very rare tool porn.
I'd like this, far less complicated, solution
m.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUP4x0sL44
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FeralCatMan Missed out Sunday again, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:16,
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Quelle surprise! 'Nonbinary' bloke finally decides he isn't nonbinary after all.
There are two types of 'nonbinary' folk, in my opinion. Those who haven't yet fully figured out their own identity, and attention seekers. So there.
(, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 23:11, Reply)
I've seen better gender-reveal videos
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtviM0T5J04
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cumquat may To be or not to be? That is a question, Mon 9 Aug 2021, 23:20,
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You’re playing fast and loose with the word ‘bloke’ there mate.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 0:07,
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I'm confused because the guy you say has figured out his identity is seeking attention through this video announcement.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 2:36,
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Well,
if they say "Those who haven't yet fully figured out their own identity, and attention seekers" and this person *has* now fully figured out their own identity, logically that would mean they are an attention seeker.
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My Name was saying words inside your head on, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 10:01,
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Oh I see,
so I guess everyone posting on the internet must be binary folk with fully figured out identities, who will never develop further, and will all die screaming for attention.
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brb ban your nan, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 15:14,
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Validation
Some lonely arse seeks internet validation from strangers by posting something in which some lonely arse seeks internet validation from strangers.
Everyone feels better and it's back pats all round
(, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:05, Reply)
Intrigued to find out how you came across this.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 10 Aug 2021, 13:57,
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