Some intersex folk do transition depending on how they identify. Others do not and are “ok” with being AFAB or AMAB. You need to ask each person to be honest.
Anyone who is intersex like to expand more on this topic to help anon out?
Intersex people are not inherently transgender/nonbinary. There are many intersex trans people as well as intersex cis people. But it is important to note that the intersex person who identifies as cis still has a very different gender experience than a dyadic cis person. The same goes for intersex transgender people - an amab intersex person may be transmasculine, and an afab intersex person may be transfeminine. These are simply due to factors that are unique to being intersex, such as incomplete or removed reproductive anatomy, hormonal makeup, external genitalia, et cetera. On top of that, intersex people may attempt to “reclaim” their bodies if they suffered unnecessary medical interventions that changed the scope of their body’s sex makeup.
It does depend on the person for their individual story and experience. If you were to ask, you should try “How does being transgender/nonbinary intersect with your experience as an intersex person?”. Some intersex people have a lot of trauma around being intersex, though, so you should be mindful of that before you ask.
I’ve been seeing people talk a lot about social constructs on here lately but most of you seem to not actually know what “social construct” means which is making y’all misuse the term and misunderstand what that term implies. So as someone who was a sociology major in college before I had to drop out after becoming physically disabled, I’m gonna clear some stuff up for y’all.
Social construct: an idea that has been created by society based on joint understandings of those in that society. Literally Everything humans conceive of is a social construct because humans live in society/are inherently societal creatures and this idea gets drilled into your head the minute you start your first class of sociology 101. Professors spend lots of time and energy into getting us to understand this because this forms the basis of sociology.
The main thing I keep seeing that many of y’all are completely wrong about is your assumption that social construct = fake, not real, trivial, not valid, etc. But here’s the thing; something being a social construct does not mean it’s not real. Calling something a social construct does not inherently invalidate that thing. Social constructs have an obviously tangible effect on our reality. Money, race, gender, those are all things that are 100% without a doubt social constructs but they are real things that have huge effects on all of our lives and color the lens with which we see and experience the world.
So when people call something a social construct, like gender, they are saying that these things only exist due to society and that we shouldn’t put too much stock in keeping these things so rigid or taking them so seriously for that reason. Society is responsible for how these things have been defined and because we are part of society we can change those definitions and the implications of those definitions. They are not saying that these things aren’t real or that they don’t matter at all or that people are dumb for thinking they matter.
honestly, i think this is part of a wider issue - the issue that being nonbinary (and especially being mogai) is seen as a “kid” thing, something childish and a thing for people to grow out of. it’s obviously fine if you don’t want to be called an enby, and people should respect that, but maybe we should start trying to combat that problem of nonbinary = child(ish)
some nonbinary people whose genders are completely separate from the binary are already starting to turn on nonbinary people with binary-related genders and it’s so disappointing to see
like yall i know we need to do better with diverse nonbinary communities and spaces but throwing each other under the bus is NOT how we do that. ive already seen some nb people begin to imply that binary-related nbs are “basically binary” and it’s like.. we’ve already been through this discourse!! it’s over!! try again!!
i know it isnt intentional and is just a product of lacking vocabulary and such, but still.. growing pains, i suppose
Man i wish there was a nonbinary community. Cause we don’t have one of those anymore.
What we have is people just. Trying to make the focus of the nonbinary community Who Youre Attracted to (All the gender loving whatever terminology, with redundencies of saying youre both nonbinary loving x and agender loving x for example) OR theyre just trying to focus on how nonbinary people can be part of the binary too, just like cis LGBs!
Does anyone care about aroace nonbinary people? Nonbinary people who want to focus on their nonbinaryness? Nonbinary people who are not binary? Because no one acts like they care about the rest of us.
And even the Greater Trans Community
(aka what nb is mostly considered a subset of) doesn’t care about us. It’s why I stopped identifying as trans and started cementing my narrative about my gender as a “I was born as” rather than “I always have been”, simply because so much focus is put onto binary trans people.
Positivity posts for trans people either don’t include us or throw us in as a footnote.
Discourse revolves around AGAB and sexuality and binary-alignment systems and MIC or FIC (Masc/Fem In Center) and and if demigenders, genderfluid, flux, xenogenders and the like are Real Genders, or if being GNC somehow makes you more or less nb or if neopronouns OR binary OR it pronouns should be allowed for use instead of whatever equivalent of singular they languages might have or whether we’re actually trans or nonbinary for fitting into certain AGAB-labelled boxes, reducing us to “girls who want to be special” or “boys wearing skirts”, the ‘vaguely masculine’ standard of androgyny except if you’re AMAB and then pushed into hyper femininity and then using all of these (and more) to say we’re either confused and not trans, or binary trans in denial.
Why don’t I see popular nonbinary communities anymore?
hope you don’t mind if i post these tags k-rbie they feel like a good addition too
