last post on this, im just clarifying:

i think acespec and arospec are included under aspec, and that aspec stands for asexual spectrum, and in this case "asexual spectrum" means a-oriented spectrum, which of course includes aromantic.

ok goodnight!

one more time, to make it perfectly clear:

aspec - includes acespec & arospec

aspec - a- oriented spectrum, also called, as an umbrella/broad term, the asexual spectrum, in which case ‘asexual’ means ‘a- orientation’, which includes aromantic

which does not mean aromantics are asexual! it simply means aromantic is included under the aspec label!

You keep digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole and let me tell you it’s not looking good for you

I and pretty much every non-ace aro I know not only think you’re wrong but genuinely fucking horrible

You don’t get how much this actually hurts us and it’s very clear that you don’t care

Aspec does not mean “asexual spectrum” asexual does not mean “a oriented spectrum” it doesn’t work like that. Maybe like 50 years ago it might have but not now, not today. Words change to fit the needs of people and what you “think” is outdated and offensive

As alloaros we have our identities erased and the asexual label forced on us. We’re told that our existence is disgusting and wrong by everyone who’s not us. Aces have dominated this community and become “the face” while simultaneously fucking us over time and time again. Brushing us aside as “the lesser aspecs” that don’t matter as much or are blatantly unwanted.

Being alloaro, having sexual attraction without romantic attraction, makes people uncomfortable. People want us to be ace because it’s easier to digest. By saying “well actually asexual is the umbrella term because blah blah blah” you’re just giving people an excuse to erase us in a progressive, “makes sense” way. Maybe “asexual” means something different to you but the majority of people think it means “no sexual attraction” so maybe you should, idk, listen to the many many many people telling you you’re wrong and ya know, not just be one more example of shitty aces that make us feel betrayed, unwanted, and distrusting,

Or just go ahead and continue to stick your fingers in your ears while repeating the same bigoted nonsense and hurt our community, just make it clear so that we can all block you and be on with our lives.

can i add:

this erases my identity as both aromantic and as homo/bisexual. i have sexual attraction, im allosexual, im gay and bi, and erasing that is downright homo/biphobic. im not asexual and i refuse to be lumped in under it.

op, you are not alloaro, you do not get an opinion on this. and you especially dont get to tell us our opinion as alloaros is wrong and uneducated. this is not something for you to talk about other than to acknowledge what alloaros say. end of story.

this is the exact reason as an alloaro that i dont interact with the larger aspec community, only the aro and alloaro communities, and when i have to i absolutely loathe it. you are actively contributing to alienating and erasing (allo)aros by saying this and especially by refusing to listen to us when we tell you youre wrong.

lumping aros, especially alloaros, under asexual is something weve been fighting against for a long time and saying "this is the historical meaning of asexual" to justify it is a kick in the teeth. thats like saying mspec/bi includes aro/ace people because historically they were considered mspec/bi.

tl;dr: this is blatant alloarophobia and you need to admit it.

@xeno-aligned​ - i used to really respect you and enjoy your content, but your repeated desire to not listen to alloaros, when you specifically say in your about you are not alloaro? that’s outright disgusting. you’ve officially breached the border of “mistake” into “bigotry and discrimination.”

for fuck’s sake - i’m literally also aro and ace, and you are making me feel like shit and erased as well. this logic makes me feel invalidated. like you are insisting that my aromanticism must be a direct extension of my asexuality.

 the logic you keep repeating here, despite the sheer number of alloaros who have messaged you on anon, and commented on the various posts you’ve made about this. like, yes it is true that in the past the split attraction model was less of a thing and -sexual was used to mean your Whole Identity.
…but that doesn’t. mean that x automatically is a part of y? like, it feels comparable to say, trying to say that all bisexuals attracted to women are extensions of lesbians and count as lesbians because of how the word lesbian used to be used.
it’s not correct, it’s erasing, and this shouldn’t be hard to get.

in the future, as i archive any terms or flags from you in my lists or upcoming wikia, they’re just legit going to come with an asterisk mentioning they came from an alloarophobe/arophobe, because it’s pretty clear you don’t value the experiences, struggles, and identity of aromantics who are allosexual.

i wish you’d get over yourself and apologize, but i doubt you will. it’s literally an extremely small change of a few letters to stop saying aspec in certain times, but you’re so entitled you refuse to do so. 

pronouns in alphabetical order

from the guy who brought you a list of [nearly] every gender & the xenogender defense card: an attempt to list every pronoun set! this will be a permanent work in progress because of the nature of it, but tonight i finished the formatting for all of the pronouns i had on my old pronoun list, so i figured that’s ‘complete’ enough to start showing it off. 60+ pages of pronouns, with flags if available, and with guides on how to use each set.

tagging for visibility/spreading: @neopronouns @lovemogai​ @pluriqueer

[i’m posting this to this blog because it has twice the followers, but please send all pronouns/other questions to everypronoun!]

the orientations list is done!

*as done as it can be, of course, there’ll always be work to be done, but it’s pretty complete as of right now

reblogs for signal boosts are appreciated, since a lot of work went into this!

got a listography now