Irreligious August 19, 2020
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Heard about this story here at the weekend. This from the Association of Catholic Priests points up a genuinely bizarre manifestation of the global alt-right, if it even deserves such a name. The case of the local RC church in Ballyhaunis where the local priest invited two representatives of the local Muslim community – who had contacted him asking could there be a ‘joint act of solidarity’ in the face of the pandemic – to join him prior to the final blessing at Mass. As the piece notes “one man intoned the Islamic call to prayer and then the other prayed for God’s mercy on all suffering from the coronavirus”.
Cue a lot of nonsense from what the ACP notes is the ‘alt-right Catholic media’ in the US and elsewhere framing this as ‘blasphemous prayers’ and ‘Muslim declares Muhammad’s supremacy over Jesus at Catholic Mass’.
Over the weekend as reported this morning there were ‘protests’ outside it by the usual crew.
I like one line in the report above in particular where it noted the commentary from these people was ‘slanted to produce maximum resentment’, something worth keeping in mind in other political contexts in regard to the far-right. There’s also been weird ‘protests’ outside the Church and so on, all of it painstakingly filmed by those holding them.
But as the author of the piece notes there’s one major omission in the framing by the far right:
That is: St. John Paul II had allowed the same Muslim call to prayer, the adhan, to mingle with the Mass he celebrated at Manger Square in Bethlehem on March 22, 2000. In that case, it was planned in advance at the highest level of the church. To my knowledge, no one ever accused the pope of heresy, or of celebrating a Satanic Mass, because of this. No one said the pope acquiesced to “an act of Islamic triumphalism.”
Many people said it was “an act of Islamic triumphalism.” at the time. But that pope did even worse things. When he visited Sudan, he didn’t publicly Condemn the Muslim leaders, for murdering and enslaving the Christians in the South.
Only a pope who believes in Muslim Superiority would do such a thing.
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They’re not training the trolls too well these days. Don’t you know that us libtards are lazy feckers who usually sleep at night, so we miss your carefully crafted pope-attack.
Must try harder.
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Even as an unlikely defender of JPII, to put it mildly, it’s only fair to note…
https://cnsblog.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/remembering-blessed-john-pauls-words-in-sudan/
“In his weekly editorial for Vatican television and radio, the papal spokesman marked the independence of South Sudan by reminding listeners of Pope John Paul II’s visit to Sudan in 1993 and the extremely strong words he used to defend the rights of Christians in the predominantly Muslim nation.
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But Pope John Paul was blatant and bold as he denounced the persecution of Sudanese Christians. He said their names were written “on the palms of the hands of Christ, pierced by the nails of the crucifixion.””
He said more:
“The Church and people of good will all over the world rejoiced when it was announced that a new political system would be introduced, a system in which all citizens would be equal, without any discrimination by reason of colour, religion or sex. It was said that all legitimate diversities would be respected in a multi–ethnic, multi–cultural and multi–religious country; that all religions would be free in their religious activities.
Religious freedom is a right which every individual has because it springs from the inalienable dignity of each human being. It exists independently of political and social structures and, as has been stated in a host of international Charters, the State has the obligation to defend this freedom from attack or interference. Where there is discrimination against citizens on the basis of their religious convictions, a fundamental injustice is committed against man and against God, and the road to peace is blocked. Today the Successor of Peter and the whole Church reaffirm their support of your Bishops’ insistent call for respect of your rights as citizens and as believers. “
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Is it my unusually optimistic outlook this morning, or isn’t this stuff getting a little thin and exhausted seeming?
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I was thinking much the same actually the last few days. It’s stale and the continual self-aggrandising aspect is so obviously preening egotism that I suspect most people see right through it.
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I guess the slightly more pessimistic take, but not completely so, is that there’s so many of them doing this it just fades into background noise.
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The then pope did not condem the Muslim Rulers, when IN Sudan, publicly.
Fake concern for the Catholic Church
Real concern for the murderous and enslavers.
Plenty of tall buildings, for you to be thrown off.
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Politics of condemnation for you eh? Shout at stuff and gain nothing whereas – as with events on this island in the past thirty years demonstrate – engagement can blunt and sometimes eventually push back against repression or violence. The idea a Pope would have ‘fake concern’ for the Catholic Church is absurd. The idea that he might tread carefully when trying to place pressure, political and otherwise on a regime that was repressing Catholics or anyone is not. But you do you Field Marshall.
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Has CLR just got its very own alt-shite troll?
On behalf of the Muslim-lovin Cultural Marxists of CLR, I’d like to welcome The Field Mouse to our lonely wee corner of the blogosphere, we could do with some educating about Islam, Catholicism, Sudan and all those other things you stay up all night researching.
A wee bit of advice to help you settle in – If it’s Rommel you’re named after, probably better to pretend it’s Zhukov, just cos the snowflakes around here are sensitive to people naming themselves after dead Nazis.
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Once upon a time, there was a poster on politics.ie called ‘The field Marshal’. His avatar was Hindenburg.
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Ah another Germanic loser, the marshal who led Germany to defeat in WW1 and then as president of the Weimar Republic helped Hitler to power. But maybe our own wee Hindenburg is named after the Nazi zeiplin that blew up in the USA in 1937.
That would make him a far-right hot air balloon?
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