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August 27, 2014: The Perfect Pop Song?
DID YOU KNOW? Scientists have created what they’re calling the “perfect pop song” by using “natural selection.”
But in a perfect world, the perfect pop song could be anything -- from Disco Dandia and Polish guitar shredding to Atlanta DIY and Italian avant-garde. In fact, every perfect pop song would share but one important thing in common with all other examples: They would each be precisely -- not a second more or less than -- three minutes long.
So pop! Such perfect!
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:01pm
Holly in NC:
First? So wow! ;-) | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:01pm
ndbob:
Evening Gary and everyone! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:02pm
Gary:
So Holly! Such Bob! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:02pm
glenn:
there aren't enough umlauts in perfection. | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:03pm
ndbob:
Heya Holly! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:03pm
glenn:
holly, thanks for the cataster link. | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:04pm
Bowery bum:
Is this your Oulipian constraint show? Have you calculated your commentary? | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:05pm
Gary:
So Glenn! So Bowery Bum! Such calculation, yes, but scare! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:07pm
Holly in NC:
@glenn - you're welcome! Evening ndbob! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:08pm
ndbob:
Can't think of anywhere other then WFMU where someone would say "Oulipian" in a music chat | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:08pm
Holly in NC:
Los Saicos, yes. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:09pm
Gary:
FIRST FUCKUP ALERT: A couple of seconds are being snipped off of each song during the cross-fade. Are they still "perfect"? Such ask! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:09pm
listener james from westwood:
Whoo! Sorry I'm late! Friend called me to ask about buying health insurance. (I had bought it well before the ACA, so I've somehow become my gang's "expert" on the subject. Yes, that horrifies me too.) | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:10pm
Gary:
James-James! Hat! Glasses! Pop! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:11pm
ndbob:
@james I do remember the problems signing up under the ACA | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:12pm
glenn:
i'm not saying anything. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:16pm
hyde:
impure pop for then people? | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:17pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
...imperfectly late - but Popping in... | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:17pm
listener james from westwood:
No idea if it's any easier now. I do know that at minimum, using healthcare.gov will list which insurance co's serve NJ. I certainly had no clue before I began Googling! (My prev. employer's insurer was based in CA, and, after my layoff, tried to hike rates like 30%. This was when the ACA was taking form in Congress and sent as "good" a message as all those car execs flying their private jets into DC to beg for money.) | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:17pm
Holly in NC:
@glenn - s'ok. I've not signed up, won't sign up, can't afford premiums & don't want to be thrown onto the medicaid bus where my home would be at risk. Until we get real (& affordable & non-punitive) single payer I will continue using our local sliding scale clinic for planned needs, and stupid $250 urgent care for unplanned :-( | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:18pm
Gary:
Much Hyde! Many RevRab! Welcome to my 3-hour bathroom-breakless nightmare! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:19pm
ndbob:
This is great!! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:21pm
ndbob:
It's just really sad that we don't have single payer now | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:22pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
..ah - no clicky☆ w/ Japanese script again - or I would so ☆ this...consequences being...um...nothing maybe...oh wait !: I can try the homepage... | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:27pm
hyde:
i don't know what happened to the idea to donate Kim's Video stuff, can't find much about it out there. The success of the Scarecrow Video Kickstarter recently was pretty heartening, though... | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:27pm
Bowery bum:
Gary, when I used to drive my 18-wheeler cross country, the company didn't give us time for bio-breaks, so I used a soda bottle. It was important however to look before drinking the ginger ale. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:29pm
listener james from westwood:
ndbob, I recently learned that FDR pressed for a better system than what we ended up with. It was demonized by the AMA and his era's equivalent of the teabaggers. They weren't willing to give him anything more than Social Security or the other New Deal programs that made it thru that era. | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:32pm
ndbob:
@hyde I used to go to Scarecrow Video when I lived in Seattle | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:35pm
Gary:
I just saw this great TV show about the Seattle library. Wow, what an awesome building | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:37pm
Bowery bum:
How long does WFMU keep older shows available? | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:38pm
ndbob:
The shows are permanently archived | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:38pm
hyde:
@ndbob it looks amazing. i listened to their podcast, but i think it died | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:44pm
Jill B.:
Good evening everyone.....sorry to be late to the party! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:45pm
ndbob:
hmm I wonder what I'm hearing - doesn't seem to be related to the playlist | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:45pm
Bowery bum:
Does archived mean on demand? or is there a procedure? | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:46pm
ndbob:
wfmu.org... the general playlist and archive page | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:47pm
ndbob:
Hi Jill | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:48pm
Jill B.:
Hey ndBob! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:49pm
Gary:
Hi Mom! Nice to see you! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:50pm
Holly in NC:
Hello Jill B! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:50pm
Jill B.:
Hey Gary....good to be listening in and hearing your sweet voice and wonderful music!!!! And....hi Holly......hope ll is well in your world! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:52pm
ndbob:
I guess no one else is having the problem I am | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:54pm
Bowery bum:
I had a problem with VERY LARGE TYPE in this area of the screen. It kept getting bigger and bigger until I couldn't read or write... Like a 50s horror movie. I rebooted and it was ok but when I went to confirm this note, it came back SOOO BIG | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:55pm
ndbob:
almost time to go - and since i can't get any response there's no point in staying anyway - I will listen from the archive from the beginning and hopefully hear what I'm supposed to hear | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:56pm
Holly in NC:
@Bowery Bum - It looks like you're listening via phone, which limits archive access to the 5 most recent shows of every show currently on schedule. If you access through computer, ndbob's link gets you to *everything* from at least 2000-on, I think earlier, including shows NOT currently on schedule. So yeah, everything. AMAZING AWESOME ETC ETC | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:58pm
Holly in NC:
Aw, Jill B, you are such a great mom to Gary! Things OK here, still have not made your cioppinno though... | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:58pm
Gary:
Is anyone else having issues like Bob, with different music playing from what's on the playlist? Should be Babla Orchestra now | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:58pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
No probs for me w/ iTunes. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 7:59pm
listener james from westwood:
Haven't been looking as closely at the "now playing" vs the playlist, but I can say the stream's been solid; was a bit skippy yesterday during Tony's show. | |
Wed. 8/27/14 7:59pm
Holly in NC:
No prob w pop up player, orchestra just welcomed me ;-) | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:01pm
hyde:
yeah, i was reading so I don't know if things were matching up, but i dinna hear any weirdness via the web... | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:01pm
ndbob:
I od have to go - but I just checked and at least for me the popup player works properly but when you stream from the website you get something else | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:01pm
ndbob:
good Bodega Pop music but not the show | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:02pm
Gary:
Hmm, okay ... weird ... | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:02pm
ndbob:
but of course I will hear it all on the archive:) | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:06pm
Gary:
I do have a great mom, yes. Such mom! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:08pm
Jill B.:
Holly.....you really must (when you are able) make the cioppino. It is a my wonderful daughter-in-law's recipe and pretty easy to put togehter. Whatever you do, do not forget the wine!!!!! Tonight we are off to pick up a bake at home pizza......just had a pedicure, thanks to a friend's birthday present to me.....so no cooking tonight.........forgot to thaw anything out earlier today. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:09pm
listener james from westwood:
Speaking of grooming, I managed to wedge a haircut into today's mayhem. I no longer risk being hauled in by Animal Control. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:10pm
listener james from westwood:
Loving the first hour and all the small-bite songs! This playlist is gonna be huuuuuuge! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:12pm
hyde:
i looooove this whole compilation | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:14pm
Gary:
Hyde there was a second 3:00 song on it that I almost played as well, but I thought it would just be "wrong" to play two songs from the same comp ... but, god it's great, yeah | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:14pm
Holly in NC:
@Jill B - oh, I would never, ever forget the wine ;-0 Breakfast this am = dandelion greens, mache, & arugula (sounds healthy so far, right?) plus some crumbled crispy pork belly [aka uncured/unsmoked bacon, aka chicharrones] & an egg, finished with the egg-frying butter deglazed with a big glug of sherry. Yes I went there, and it was good :-) | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:16pm
hyde:
@Holly i ate dinner an hour ago and you are making me soooo hungry | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:20pm
Holly in NC:
@Hyde - breakfast can be anytime you want it to be :-) | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:21pm
Gary:
Such food! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:21pm
cosmic matrix:
@holly - that sounds tasty. glad your pork belly worked out! i made some in a toaster oven on my deck when it was too hot to cook inside...it was OK, better on the BBQ. both ways braised over onions, carrots and scallions....w/ beer and brown sugar. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:22pm
Gary:
So cosmic! Such Matrix! Pop in! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:23pm
cosmic matrix:
tonight i'm making rice krispies treats for a work potluck tomorrow. not going to make them psychedelic. but it is interesting that the recipe is no longer on the marshmallow package OR the cereal package. these modern days!! gotta go online. but i stopped here first! i love this fucking show. hi gary! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:24pm
cosmic matrix:
i did just get here. hi everybody! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:25pm
Gary:
This Fado comes to us from Pacific Simon | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:26pm
cosmic matrix:
i worked at kim's underground on bleeker street in 1995! sniff. | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:27pm
Holly in NC:
@cosmic matrix - nexy time I will braise, this time I was in a hurry and went the "bacony" route. Your way sounds amazing, though I would have to axe the sugar & switch out other alcohol for beer. @Gary - I am SO happy someone else truly enjoys doge speak. Or rather: Such happy. Much wow. So love! (I suspect everyone else is exasperated, sorry) Miss PSS! PSS, are you out there? | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:30pm
hyde:
@cosmic matrix i always make this rosemary rice krispies treats recipe--it's really good! articles.latimes.com... | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:30pm
cosmic matrix:
@holly - it is amazing what one finds when one searches youtube for pork belly cooking instructions. every culture does it somewhat differently...but every recipe is so fucking involved and insane...most invove violent stabbing or ritualistic slicing and then soaking it in some obscure liquid or chemical combination (condensed milk, baking soda, gasoline etc)... i always like watching cooking videos in other languages. you sound nice and your cat is cute. have a good night, gotta make them treats. gonna listen downstairs! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:32pm
hyde:
yeah, longing for the past is dust to digital. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:32pm
cosmic matrix:
@hyde - ummm, it's probably good but how arbitrary! couldn't you do it with any spice? or is it so amazing. you must like rosemary. my regular breakfast lately is a rosemary/sea-salt bagel from myer's bagels in burlington.....montreal style! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:34pm
cosmic matrix:
@ hyde - and your cat is a cute too. but did it lose an eye? | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:36pm
hyde:
@cosmic matrix the thing is, it's not really overpoweringly rosemary-ish. you can taste it, but i think it works with the vanilla and gets sort of muted. i've thought of trying it with a thyme/orange zest combo, but haven't yet. and yep, my cat is a shelter kitty who got an infection before she got picked up and only has one eye with about 50% vision in it. but it doesn't really slow her down that much... | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:40pm
northguineahills:
I do put liberal doses of rosemary/chili powder (Nigerian)/cumin/curry for my brunch taters. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:42pm
Gary:
NGH! Such pop in! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:44pm
Holly in NC:
@cosmic matrix - Bitty says thank you, but she does not self-identify as "cute". As ruler of 2 humans and 2 other cats, she prefers to identify as regal. (covering her ears) Most apt descripitions = flirtatious, coquette, vixen, avid hunter, and well, b*tchy. As well as wildly loving, possessive & affectionate. And, indeed, cute. @hyde! Must share with you crazy good rosemary corncake recipe from a 198x issue of Food & Wine, it's not on line & I'm not at home to type in. A really, really, good recipe. @ngh you would like also, I think | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:45pm
northguineahills:
Laundry time! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:47pm
hyde:
@Holly that sounds great. please do send if it isn't a huge hassle! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:50pm
Doug Schulkind:
I have 953 songs on my hard drive that are exactly 3 minutes long. In case you run out, I mean. Good evening Gary! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 8:53pm
Holly in NC:
@Hyde - Not a problem, but give me some time, I won't be home for a while, I'm in Mary Poppins mode ;-) So good. Hi Doug! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:55pm
hyde:
@Holly there's no hurry from my end. i'll take it whenever you get around to it ;) | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:56pm
Doug Schulkind:
Hi Hol! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 8:56pm
Gary:
So Doug! Such happy! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:01pm
Holly in NC:
@Gary - I just misheard you as saying you'd be starting the set with Alice *Donut*, which sent me reeling back to long forgotten cutout cds from the late 80s/early 90s | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:01pm
Gary:
There was an Alice Donut?!? | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:02pm
Gary:
Doug, I have only 263 songs that are exactly 3:00 | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:02pm
Gary:
But they are EACH OF THEM PERFECT | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:03pm
Uncle Michael:
I'm afraid to check my library for 3:00 songs. HELLO! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:04pm
Holly in NC:
@Gary - Oh yes. @UM - Hello! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:04pm
Gary:
So hello! Such Uncle! Pop in! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:06pm
northguineahills:
Come on Gary, Alice Donut should be at the prime of your musical discovery. You're done just a notch or so more solar laps then I. Not the same as a hertz donut. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:07pm
Uncle Michael:
Are you channeling the Leuchtags, Gary? | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:07pm
Gary:
Music now so scare | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:07pm
Doug Schulkind:
It's not quantity or quality, it's qualntity | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:08pm
Gary:
Yeah, sorry; Holly sent me to the Doge last night during Doug(e)'s show | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:09pm
Holly in NC:
I pretty much worshop Tom Zé. Yep. Such fault. Wow. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:12pm
Gary:
Holly, I DLed that album after reading someone ranting about it, someone like David Byrne, but I don't think him. Unless it was him. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:12pm
Ike:
Hi! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:12pm
northguineahills:
Alright! I worship one of the same rock godz as Holly! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:12pm
Gary:
So Ike! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:13pm
Uncle Michael:
1,596 at 3:00. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:14pm
Uncle Michael:
There is probably 5%-10% duplication, though. | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:14pm
Holly in NC:
@Gary - Probably was him (DB). He released a "best-of" comp on Luaka Bop a whlle back. Whenever you have time, you should grab EVERYTHING TZ has ever done. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:14pm
listener james from westwood:
Heh, TOC = table of contents to this editor, too! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:19pm
Holly in NC:
" a while back" = 1990. Oy vey. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:21pm
Gary:
Such while! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:23pm
Gary:
So, Holly, my first encounter with "such [something]" was in Casablanca. GUY 1: What watch? GUY 2: [Can't remember what he says, but like 2:00 PM or something] GUY 1: Such watch! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:24pm
Holly in NC:
Gary, listening to you on pop up & efd on mp3 is getting really trippy. And I did have to turn you down to zero during efd playing Beastie Boys' "Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun" because that I need to sing along with, at the top of my lungs ;-) | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:25pm
Gary:
People like the Beasties! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:27pm
hyde:
I just bought that 33 1/3 book about Paul's Boutique | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:28pm
northguineahills:
@hyde: Those are fun! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:29pm
Gary:
I just finished the 33-1/3 on Exile in Guyville | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:29pm
hyde:
@ngh this is the first one I have, but there's a bunch of others that look promising. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:31pm
Uncle Michael:
Gary, that's why I asked about the Leuchtags. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:32pm
Gary:
Franklin Bruno on Elvis Costello is great. Also the book on Public Enemy. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:33pm
Uncle Michael:
A friend of mine wrote the 33 1/3 for Exile on Main Street | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:34pm
Holly in NC:
@Gary - I still have not seen Casablanca all the way through, in one sitting. How awful is that? @Hyde - How's the book? Truly is one of my top 10 albums, and I'm not a carpetbagger. All hail my friend Tyler for forcing me to listen back in '89. @Gary again - that's another album I know by heart, but it hasn't stayed with me the same way Paul's Boutique has. That said, I need to dust it off & give it a listen. For a long time I just could NOT listen to "Divorce Song". Because my ex and I discovered the album at the same time. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:34pm
Gary:
I wanna read that one, Michael | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:35pm
cosmic matrix:
i believe i may have seen alice donut at CBGB or the continental or something! ....made my RKTs. didn't have a measuring cup, but everything worked out OK, THANK GOD. lydia hiby told me my cat considers herself a princess. ...and i can see how rosemary and vanilla would complement one another! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:35pm
Uncle Michael:
Bill Janovitz wrote it. I have it around here somewhere... | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:35pm
Holly in NC:
If I ever win a lottery I will buy every 33 1/3. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:35pm
hyde:
I'd like to read the PE one.and the Slint one. and UM's pal's one. @Holly, I haven't started it yet. It's in *gasp*...THE PILE. Now I'm wondering what LP in my collection I would want to write one on... | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:36pm
Ike:
Hey, no spoilers! I'm three or four New Yorkers behind. Although honestly, I think others have already spoiled that one for me. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:37pm
hyde:
@UM ohhhh, it's Bill Janovitz. I used to see Buffalo Tom a lot in Boston. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:38pm
Uncle Michael:
Bill wrote a much bigger Rolling Stones book that came out last year...soft cover came out this year. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:41pm
Gary:
Oh, shoot -- sorry, Ike! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:47pm
Ike:
That's OK, I strategically tuned away and back again very deftly. I'm very impressed w/myself. Ha ha. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:53pm
Ike:
What's the funniest and/or most eloquent thing you've ever read about PACKING and MOVING? I am trying to impress an gorgeous lady who is moving soon (fortunately not moving away from NYC though). | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:55pm
Gary:
Wow, that's a tough one, Ike | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:55pm
Holly in NC:
@Hyde - that's a very interesting question! Oddly, I don't think anyone's done any 1 of the Stooges 3 canonical albums yet, or any Iggy solo, which really might be more interesting. Zombie Birdhouse or New Values or Soldier. But tonight I'm thinking Robyn H - either I Often Dream of Trains or Gotta let This Hen Out. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:57pm
Ike:
Maybe I have set the bar too high for myself. Maybe I can find a way to have a conversation and be interesting without any emergency backup material... yeah RIGHT. Pfffft. | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:58pm
Gary:
Just relax and be such! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 9:59pm
Uncle Michael:
I'm just thinking of Louden Wainwright III's song "Cardboard Boxes." | |
Wed. 8/27/14 9:59pm
northguineahills:
Thanks Gary! Another fine night! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 10:00pm
Uncle Michael:
Yes, thanks, Gary! | |
Wed. 8/27/14 10:00pm
Holly in NC:
Thank you, Gary! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 10:00pm
íkє:
Relax = quiet (or typing) in my universe, mostly... sigh. I'll figure it out. Thanks for the cool show! G'night! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 10:00pm
hyde:
@Holly a lot of key ones are done, but there seems room for plenty more. Thanks Gary! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 10:03pm
cosmic matrix:
thanks gary! it's been a fiesta of insanity. goodnight all! | |
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Wed. 8/27/14 10:05pm
Gary:
Thanks everyone for the company! | |
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