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Aides To Be Indicted, Probe to Continue

by Larry Johnson
Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 01:44:59 PM EST

For your background, Richard was the first to tip me last year to the developing Larry Franklin spy scandal, which proved to be right. - LJ

Aides To Be Indicted, Probe to Continue

By Richard Sale, longtime Intelligence Correspondent for UPI

This comes to us courtesy of Pat Lang at turcopolier.typepad.com. I've found Richard to always be on target in my experience. -- Larry Johnson

Two top White House aides are expected to be indicted today on various charges related to the probe of CIA operative Valerie Plame whose classified identity was publicly breached in retaliation after her husband, Joe Wilson, challenged the administration's claim that Saddam Hussein had sought to buy enriched uranium from Niger, acording to federal law enforcement and senior U.S. intelligence officials.

If no action is taken today, it will take place on Friday, these sources said.

I. Scooter Libby, the chief of staff of Vice President Richard Cheney, and chief presidential advisor Karl Rove are expected to be named in indictments this morning by Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

Others are to be named as well, these sources said. According to U.S. officials close to the case, a bill of indictment has been in existence before October 17 which named five people. Various names have surfaced such as National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley, yet only one source would confirm that Hadley was on the list. Hadley could not be reached for comment.

But letters from Fitzgerald, notifying various White House officiials that they are targets of the investigation, went out late last week, a former senior U.S. intelligence official said.

Most press accounts emphasized that Fitzgerald was likely to concentrate on attempts by Libby, Rove and others to cover up wrongdoing by means of perjury before the grand jury, lying to federal officials, conspiring to obstruct justice, etc. But federal law enforcement officials told this reporter that Fitzgerald was likely to charge the people indicted with violating Joe Wilson's civil rights, smearing his name in an attempt to destroy his ability to earn a living in Washington as a consultant.

The civil rights charge is said to include "the conspiracy was committed using U.S. government offices, buildings, personnel and funds," one federal law enforcement official said.

Other charges could include possible violations of U.S. espionage laws, including the mishandling of U.S. classified information, these sources said.

That Vice President Cheney is at the center of the controversy comes as no surprise. Last Friday, Fitzgerald investigators were talking to Cheney's attorneys, and detailied questionnaires, designed to pin down in meticulous sequence what Cheney knew, when he knew it, and what he told his aides, were delivered to the White House on Monday, these sources said.

The probe is far from being at an end. According to this reporter's sources, Fitzgerald approached the judge in charge of the case and asked that a new grand jury be empaneled. The old grand jury, which has been sitting for two years, will expire on October 28.

Thanks to a letter of February, 2004 in which Fitzgerald asked for and obtained expanded authority, the Special Prosecutor is now in possession of an Italian parliament nvestigation into the forged Niger documents alleging Iraq's interest in purchasing Niger uranium, sources said.

They said that Fitzgerald is looking into such individuals as former CIA agent, Duane Claridge, military consultant to the Iraqi National Congress, Gen. Wayne Downing, another military consultant for INC, and Francis Brooke, head of INC's Washingfton office in an effort to determine if they played any role in the forgeriese or their dissiemination. Also included in this group is long-time neoconservative Michael Ledeen, these federal sources said.

On the Hill, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), democratic whip, are asking for public hearings to lay bare the forgeries and how their false allegations ended up in President George Bush's State of the Union speech.

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Larry C. Johnson is CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm that helps corporations and governments manage threats posed by terrorism and money laundering. Mr. Johnson, who worked previously with the Central Intelligence Agency and U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism (as a Deputy Director), is a recognized expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, crisis and risk management. Mr. Johnson has analyzed terrorist incidents for a variety of media including the Jim Lehrer News Hour, National Public Radio, ABC's Nightline, NBC's Today Show, the New York Times, CNN, Fox News, and the BBC. Mr. Johnson has authored several articles for publications, including Security Management Magazine, the New York Times, and The Los Angeles Times. He has lectured on terrorism and aviation security around the world. Further bio details.



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jeez im about to have an orgasm just reading this
by anna in philly (flymetothemoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:01:52 AM EST


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by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:14:30 AM EST
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I kind of like that the probe will continue. Means there is still alot of meat on the bones. Keep digging Fitz. Indict them one by one. It's a good day in America where truth will ring the loudest!

Frodo failed...Bush has got the ring.
by alohaleezy on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:04:47 AM EST
General Downing would then be another government news/reporter plant appearing on news shows. IF Downing is working out of the Office of Special Plans along with Judith Miller, it would be very interesting to see how this web of reproters gained access to the news shows and who at MSNBC< FOX and CNN are also working with the government.

IT sounds like there is a new COnspiracy involving government and people in the NEWS MEDIA working together and it appears to be quite elaborate.

by Stu Piddy on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:11:44 AM EST
Most excellent. Raw Story also has this headline (no link yet): FITZGERALD ASKS JURY TO INDICT ROVE, LIBBY, SOURCES SAY....
by catnip (llamg88 at hotmail.com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:15:12 AM EST
oh man... oh wow... can this possibly be true? This is big. Joe Wilson's civil rights. The forgeries. The leak. The whole enchilada...

Come on Dems, get off your asses and be an opposition party in 2006 and then get down to some bidness about what the pretzel knew and when he knew it. Stained blue dress indeed... this is what you are supposed to impeach president's for.

by spiderleaf (spiderleaf at gmail dot com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:17:12 AM EST
Last year, when I wrote what I felt was my most researched and seminal diary on extraordinary rendition and torture, I found a remarkable article by Richard Sale.

You probably remember Jane Maher's exceptional work in The New Yorker.... she went into great depth, and I drew on her writing.

But it was incredible how Sale, clearly a master of his craft, could say it all in 4-5 paragraphs, not 10 pages.  

I'll see if I can find that link... it was just amazing.  His writing was understated but **devastating** in its condemnation of the practice of extraordinary rendition.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:20:10 AM EST
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Here it is: "Outsourcing Torture: Secret History (FBI v. CIA)."
Tue Feb 08, 2005 at 07:41:21 AM PDT

An excerpt:

What got me thinking about this was a revealing analysis of rendition (Jan. 19, 2005) by the experienced UPI intelligence reporter Richard Sale.

It's telling, the emphasis Sale uses to conclude his analytical article:

"I think the greatest mistake of this administration has been that they have ignored the expertise of the FBI in these matters," said [former CIA and State Department official Larry Johnson]. "The FBI is enormously skilled in extracting information from people in a non-threatening way.

"Instead, this administration has given control to U.S. Special Forces and the U.S. military, who frankly don't have a clue. Look at Abu Ghraib. It's dispiriting."

So, we learn from Richard Sale -- and he makes a point of letting us know -- that the FBI is skilled at interrogation. Without using torture or humiliation. Since reading Sale's analysis, I've been very curious. How does the FBI do this? Especially with terrorism suspects, who are notoriously difficult to "crack"?

And why don't we still use FBI-style interrogation? Why do we "render" suspects to other countries for interrogation that we know will include torture?

First, let's compare the FBI's results with successful convictions for the embassy bombings (4) to the Bush administration's record of convictions since 9/11 (0). ...



Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:27:51 AM EST
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Interesting that last nights new show Commander-in-Chief had this very subject-torture-as theme.  Good show too.

'Poverty is the worst form of violence'--Gandhi
by chocolate ink on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 12:31:38 PM EST
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I was a little disappointed in the show last night....in as far as how Pres. Geena dealt with the Justice employee and it was obvious she was going to use torture, I thought Geena could have been stronger in the beginning, not after the fact.  Seemed like she gave defacto permission...(she said I don't want to hear about torture) she could have sent an observer or something of that nature, I did not think it was a strong enough message.
What do you think Chocolate, and btw Hi. haven't talked to you in ages, how are you doing and how many cups of coffee so far today....lol.

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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 12:39:40 PM EST
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I thought she meant she didn't want torture but I also thought she should have sent someone as you said to monitor what was happening.  Of course the whole premise that torture works wasn't so good either and I agree the message in the script could have been stronger...but at least it was addressed in this show and she did get to make the point about those laws are for us not them...which I wish was stated stronger also but then again it's just a show.

Was up early today so am doing pretty good on the coffee-feeling almost human by now. How are you doing today?

'Poverty is the worst form of violence'--Gandhi

by chocolate ink on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 02:24:44 PM EST
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Yes, she said "I don't want to hear" about it, and then the women (don't know her name) said later, "well you said you 'didn't want to hear' which coming from the WH means, just don't tell me."
I thought that may have been a Bushco ref.
Glad to see it addressed in show as well but it was ambigious where it could have been strong and impactful to those that condone or are ambivilant.
Asking too much from the show, I guess, but it's a women Pres. after all and I want her to be superb.
I am thinking now this show is going to have a military counterplot every week while I would rather see the machinations between congress and the pres.
Sutherland's character is very unlikable, I like him so much I would have like to see him be at least a Dem on the show.

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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 02:49:18 PM EST
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bad guy though!!  He's one of my favorite actors as well and I've only seen about 10 minutes of one of the episodes, but it had a lot of his character in it.

I want something else, to get me through this, semi-charmed kinda life..
Third Eye Blind

by brinnainne on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 02:53:45 PM EST
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Yes he does play an awesome bad guy and he is surely doing that in this show, did you see that movie where he was trying to break into a house somewhere in a wild area of coastline and had his hand chopped off by the women there.  That movie had me on the edge of my seat the whole way through.
Anyway I had to juxtapose his character and the recent comments he made reg. our country and the way things were going here.
I see his character in the show as a Cheney type, brutal and ruthless in his approach...


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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 03:00:22 PM EST
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I don't think I have -- do you remember the name of it?

I want something else, to get me through this, semi-charmed kinda life..
Third Eye Blind

by brinnainne on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 03:05:23 PM EST
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It took me awhile to find it, he has done so many movies but it was
"the Eye of the Needle."
and here is link.  Great movie!!


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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 03:13:39 PM EST
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One of those times where a movie is as good as the book was.

'Poverty is the worst form of violence'--Gandhi
by chocolate ink on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 03:54:58 PM EST
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will be the gift that keeps on giving.

Kindly imagine the big ol' grin on my face at the thought of Rove and Libby being indicted, with more to come.

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by Our Man in Redmond (omir.the.storyteller -DORT- gmail -ART- com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:18:12 AM EST
WOW, I mean I know it has taken time but from my perspective the guy has been so thorough if he's calling you forward you're FUCKED because you broke the law and he knows it beyond a shadow of a doubt.  It has been soooo long since someone so standup has been in such a position and not sold out.  My jaw just hit the floor.  Perhaps through him and our nation's experience with this he will be our leader and our inspiration back to truth and accountability and credibility.  Maybe he can restore Honor and Dignity to the White House and to the office of the President of the United States!

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by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:22:32 AM EST
I cannot think of a better tag team than Fitz and Eliot Spitzer.
by KlatooBaradaNikto (easwar7@aol.com) on Thu Oct 27th, 2005 at 07:33:40 AM EST
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I wish Kennedy, et. al. would sit down, shut up, and butt out.

During the Ollie North rockets-for-hostages fiasco Congress gave immunity in return for testimony and as a result no one could be indicted for criminal activity.  

by ATinNM on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:34:49 AM EST
I can't imagine that he and Reid would be so dense as to step on Fitzgerald's investigation .. this may just be political talk, to keep the troops thinking that they care ...

and i think Fitz already got a guarantee from the Senate that they wouldn't mess with his investigation.  (Right?)

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."

by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:37:46 AM EST
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The Republicans are in control of Congress.  It is they who will, ultimately, decide if the Senate is going to get involved.  By opening their yap Kennedy and Reid have given the Repub's the cover -- "The Democrats said we should and therefore ..."

Too cynical?  Perhaps.

by ATinNM on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:49:27 AM EST
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im missing the breaking news diaries on kos...i used to hate them but today they would be useful.

will the day of the indictments be the best day we will get out of this?  if nothing much comes of anything and its all followed with pardons.....well can you imagine the letdown...i am reminded of that satying  - "The sun never shines so bright as on the morning after the revolution."  is it all downhill from here?

by anna in philly (flymetothemoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:37:34 AM EST
You can't get news any more "breaking" than this. Sale is the best at intel reporting. Take it to the bank. Most of those DKos breaking stories are speculative at best.

Hickok: "You know the sound of thunder. Can you imagine that sound if I ask you to? Ma'am, listen to the thunder."
by susanhu (susanhuatearthlinkdotnet) on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 11:38:58 AM EST
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I haven't been to kos in many many months-maybe I should just say I never go there and I don't feel like I have missed one single thing.  This is where it's at for best front pagers and intelligent speculation.

'Poverty is the worst form of violence'--Gandhi
by chocolate ink on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 12:17:55 PM EST
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Go Patrick go.  If he gets Rove and Libby now and extends the probe to dgo after more dirt (and hopefully get Cheney and a bunch of gang), there's plenty for everyone and who knows where it may lead.
by satchmo on Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 01:34:53 PM EST
Duane "Dewey" Claridge was up to his armpits in Ollie North's Contra/Cocaine and Iran operations.

Pardoned by Papa Bush on his way out the door, for pending charges of lying to Congress. When I lost track in the 90s, Claridge was Director of Security for Ringling Bros. Circus, with a specialty in Animal Rights activists.

I'm running for the US Senate again, Wisconsin 2012.

by ben masel (bDESPAMmasel@tds.net) on Thu Oct 27th, 2005 at 04:55:32 AM EST


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