Bit late to be trying to get into the campsite loo when you’ve already shat in your sleeping bag
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Being in EFTA is the way forward moderate brexiters and remainers agree.
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Well that's the first common sense you've spoken since you left the Tories.
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You’ve now lost my respect.
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These are the isolationist, and often racistloons you set loose. You're right, EFTA is a sensible compromise. So convince them.
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Trade, courts and borders. I voted for those, I have my doubts we will get any of it. I strongly suspect May is negotiating to get a chair just outside the room, rather than change building.
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to be factual, FOM is part of efta and is a non negotiable part of it. thats fairly widely known but the real kicker (lie) is that the emergency immigration brake for workers (articles 112-3) would as its wrote be impossible for the uk to implement...
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and even if we could (we cant), we would have to beg every 3 months for it to be extended. it would also mean not signing trade deals ourselves and the ecj having supremacy over the uk. the much vaunted "you have a say in deals" etc is horse shat...
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no one can say what any efta/eea country has been able to change when the eu is agreeing trade deals or if they managed to stop anything. they also have zero evidence of an efta/eea country knocking back a ecj order...as their isn't any.
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He's changed his time....accept all EU regs and oversight,? Plus ECJ.rules. wow...carswell fleeing a sinking ship. Next week why the single market is vital for UK economy
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I think you need to read up on EFTA. So wrong.
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EFTA is no option to be considered seriously. Total control or not at all.
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Total control over what exactly? How much we get shafted by Trump? Spoiler, we'd have very little. He's coming in dry, so bite the pillow hard lad.
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Jesus christ what an image
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Yet again I’ll ask for some clarity, can you advise on what advantages the deal you are proposing offers us to our current arrangement. Aligned to the single market, unable to trade freely, four freedoms remain, ECJ still supreme and finally no seat at the table.
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@EFTA4UK and look on their threads. No ECJ etc. It's the sweet spot, the Goldilocks Zone. Definitely out, but with the economic links preserved. -
I’ll be happy to research some more. Especially when it looks likely it’s the future route we will go down. I just can’t comprehend a Brexit that doesn’t actually do what the vast majority of voters asked for. Will we still pay a fee to the EU, will we get a rebate ? Or pay more
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We voted to leave the EU and this does that in spades. EFTA-EEA states don't pay to the EU budget (bit pay in for things they use) and they're not in the CAP, no CFP, no ECJ etc. No need for a rebate as not paying too much to start with. It's the Goldilocks Zone.
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Strike trade deals with other countries and control of borders??
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Trade deals yes and more control than now or in any potential FTA with the EU
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Silly question maybe but if this is such a good option why has it taken this long to reach it??
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Trashed by Remain even before the Ref because it undermines the case for the EU, they pretend the economic SM benefits are politically linked to EU membership. Then after Leave won it was hijacked by extremists, then the media & opposition went MIA.
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