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Starting next year, girls can decide whether to become a girl scout or a boy scout. But a handful of girls — kind of secretly — have already made that decision.
On today’s episode:
How one 10-year-old girl got a head start on joining a boys-only club. And why her twin sister decided to stay with the girls. We talk with Elsa and Clio Moock, and their father, Alastair.
This is a special Sunday episode of “The Daily for Kids.” Sunday’s issue of The Times features a special print section for children that will be published every month starting next year. You can pick it up on newsstands or by subscribing for home delivery of The Times.
To discuss:
Here are some of the questions raised in today’s episode, which parents may want to discuss with their children after listening together.
Continue reading the main story• Do you feel more boyish or girlish?
• Do you think girls should be allowed in the Boy Scouts?
• Do you think girls and boys need their own spaces?
• Do you think the terms “boyish” and “girlish” are good terms?
• Do you feel like assumptions are made about you based on those terms, and assumptions about the types of activities you want to do?
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• Do you think boys should be allowed in the Girl Scouts?
Background reading:
• Things that boys could learn at the Girl Scouts.
• An opinion column by a 10-year-old about how she decided to change the Girl Scouts.
Tune in, and tell us what you think. Email us at thedaily@nytimes.com. Tweet me at @mikiebarb. And if you’re interested in advertising with “The Daily,” write to us at thedaily-ads@nytimes.com.
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