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Gill Sans
1 hour ago
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
Re-issue of CDCF 196

Gill Sans
2 hours ago
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
@PP: I'm sure you are right. From the "First Ten Years" sampler I read
"Conifer Classics evolved ten years ago out of Conifer Records Limited, already well established as Britain's most enterprising classical distributor"

I will make a new entry for this re-issue and move my image there. One day we may see some images for this pre-Classics release.

Gill Sans
2 hours ago
Various Artists

The First Ten Years
@MM: I'm surprised, as Roxanna is better-known in Britain, to find it is Andrzej: see Wikipedia

There are no details in the booklet on the tracks as that is just a catalogue of the releases at the time.

Magic Marmalade
3 hours ago
Various Artists

The First Ten Years
Well this is interesting...

...in looking for Panufnik on the net, so I could add the name into the autoconvert, there are two results:

Andrzej Panufnik,

and:

Roxanna Panufnik,

Father and Daughter composers. That's got to be a pretty unique occurrence.

(I don't suppose it says anywhere on the CD which one is the composer here Gill?)

Magic Marmalade
9 hours ago
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
I have to say I agree with ppint on this one...

... Although I can just make out the "classics" bit on the top left, the image is small, and too indistinct to be relied on, certainly when contradicting ppint, who entered this from copy in hand, who says otherwise.

Do you have this Gill, and can upload better images?

...could it be that the image here is from a later / other issue where a name change for the label has occurred at some point?

(Any chance of a bar-code / image p?)

ppint.
16 hours ago
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
i have the bloody thing.

ppint.
21 hours ago
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
the label is not "conifer classics".

the label is "conifer".

the phrase "conifer classics" appears nowhere upon the disc, nor upon nor in the printed front insert booklet, nor upon the printed rear insert/inlay.

that is why i so stated in submitting this item.

ppint.
17th Jun 2017
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
i have the bloody thing.


Magic Marmalade
16th Jun 2017
Bl!ndman

Dust Makes Damage
So it's jazz then?

:)

Gill Sans
15th Jun 2017
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
The label is indeed Conifer Classics, and the fuzzy image off the internet (un)clearly shows "Classics"

Gill Sans
15th Jun 2017
Bl!ndman

Dust Makes Damage
Bl!ndman is a Belgian music collective, which was started in 1988 as a saxophone quartet. The group was founded by saxophonist Eric Sleichim, taking the name from the magazine The Blind Man (1917) by Marcel Duchamp. Latterly Sleichim has used different instruments and has collaborated with dance and theatre artists. (From Wikipedia)

The style on this album is free-form improvisation, with some tracks using unpitched percussive and breathing effects created on the instruments

ppint.
15th Jun 2017
The Brindisi String Quartet

Britten / Bridge / I Holst: String Quartets
for "velma", read "calma"°. and for "sense", read "senza".

° - thank-you, tablettything's automiscorrectafterleavingtheword bu^W feature


(& p.s: label is indeed plain "conifer", and not "conifer classics".)

Magic Marmalade
12th Jun 2017
Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra - Willi Boskovsky

The World Of Johann Strauss
Where does A5 go in this track listing Mr B?

(Where does side two begin?)

sheepdip1234
12th Jun 2017
Luciano Pavarotti, Jose Carreras & Placido Domingo

The Golden Voices Of The 3 Tenors
Thanks muchly and greatly appreciated.

MR B PAGE
11th Jun 2017
Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra - Willi Boskovsky

The World Of Johann Strauss
I forgot to tell you that I should add one more track to add on the album and it is called 1001 Nights- Waltz,Op.346 by Johann Strauss,and found on A5 on Side 1,please do accept my apologies for this.

Magic Marmalade
7th Jun 2017
The Philharmonia Orchestra Conducted By Constantin Silvestri

Franck: Symphony In D Minor
Aha!

...I've just discovered a likely reason why this wasn't (or probably wasn't) re-pressed:

ASD 458, released in 1962 is this Franck Symphony, but by Sir Thomas Beecham Bart, and The French Radio Orchestra - also on White / Gold, so it seems they replaced this symphony in the H.M.V. catalogue with an updated version (rendering) by different artists, so this effectively became redundant.

(I'll be keeping my eyes open for that one especially then :)

Magic Marmalade
7th Jun 2017
The Philharmonia Orchestra Conducted By Constantin Silvestri

Franck: Symphony In D Minor
Wagner, for people who don't like Wagner...

...At least, that's how I would describe Side 1's first movement:

A dramatic, foreboding, and serious work in the Wagnerian opera style, but in symphony form. Basically, taking all the highlights of the Wagner style and cutting away the other fifteen hours of Viking helmets, Valkyries, and probably a little less Helicopters and Napalm (for all you Apocalypse Now! fans :).

However, Franck does have the ability to sweeten things a little, with passages of light melodic tunefulness here and there, and is capable of a lightness of touch that Wagner frankly, isn't.

...And while the notes on the back of this make a comparison instead to Beethoven, this is only true of the second side's two movements... much more subtle, and tuneful, as Beethoven was indeed capable of, and reversing the trend of side one to intersperse the heavy drama with touches of lightness, this side, being generally lighter, is interspersed with moments of drama, and impact.

So a much easier listening experience than Wagner, but with all the stuff you do like about him and Beethoven.


A word on this issue...

I've looked about on the net, and can only find a few copies of this, so it is, in H.M.V terms, toward the rarer end of the spectrum; For while Columbia SAXs will draw the truly eye-watering values, compared to these, and on a more consistent basis, this is one of those that fetches the mid-higher end of values for ASDs (And it seems to be on the march too!).
This, it would seem, is signified by the fact that I cannot find, even among those copies that I do see, any with the later red labels, of any variety. I can only conclude that this must be one that was never re-pressed in those later times - hence it's comparative rarity.

...And given the date is 1961, this shows me that the use of White / Gold continued later than I had thought...

(Looking to other areas of EMI label designs - jackets and labels - I wonder if 1962 may be more likely, due to the well documented switch in the early stages of release of The Beatles first album then, and the switch to boxed logo designs across the stable again in 69, making it likely that they all changed at once).

So if a copy of this does turn up with red labels, it would seem to be a lot rarer than the White / Gold labels here!

(If only my copy wasn't so tatty!!! :(

PhilMH
3rd Jun 2017
Zubin Mehta, The Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Release month from Decca's 1974 catalogue.

Magic Marmalade
3rd Jun 2017
The Philharmonia Orchestra Conducted By Constantin Silvestri

Franck: Symphony In D Minor
There's some directly transferable "Beatle-Logic" you can apply for these White-Gold labelled ASDs:

As most Beatle collectors will know, the size of the word: "Stereo" on the upper right of the front cover gives a clue as to how early the pressing is, and in the case of these ASDs, this is also true (As it's EMI group template)....

The large "stereo" word signifies that, barring a accidental misplaced record in the wrong sleeve, you are pretty much certain that a White / Gold label disc will be inside.

Magic Marmalade
3rd Jun 2017
Zubin Mehta, The Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Also Sprach Zarathustra
I have seen ED 1 (Wide Band Grooved (WBG)) labels on this on the net.

Magic Marmalade
3rd Jun 2017
Vladimir Ashkenazy

Chopin: The Four Scherzi / Prelude, Op.45 / Barcarolle, Op.60
I'll go with that then.

It has been nagging at me though, why this, with early matrices has later edition labels, when I've seen later issued albums with ED 1s (?)

Doesn't really make sense.

(I think a Zubin Mehta Decca I entered, which has narrow band labels on my copy, I have seen with ED 1s on the net... but I'll check the date on that again)

I can only conclude that this didn't really sell, and all but dribbled out of the factory without troubling the press too much... and yet they are readily available now around the net, so maybe it still isn't that sought after - I'll have to give it a spin soon, maybe it sounds like I tried to play it! :)

PhilMH
3rd Jun 2017
Vladimir Ashkenazy

Chopin: The Four Scherzi / Prelude, Op.45 / Barcarolle, Op.60
Hi MM, Decca's 1974 main catalogue gives the release date as April 1968.

Magic Marmalade
2nd Jun 2017
Vladimir Ashkenazy

Chopin: The Four Scherzi / Prelude, Op.45 / Barcarolle, Op.60
My copy of this has wide band grooved labels, but the upper left portion of the rim text is consistent with the second variety ED 2 (or later) text: "Made In England By...", as opposed to the first (ED 1) text: "Original Recording..."...

...However, my matrices for each side are: 1W / 2W ending respectively, so a very early press for this release.

Which makes me wonder if the earlier text (ED 1) exists for this title... given the 1967 release date (the last year of the "Golden age of classical vinyl - 1958-1967), and I have seen slightly later releases - 68 ish, with that label text. This is quite lowly valued for a Decca SXL on the whole too (around the £20-£40 mark), even with the wide band labels, so either it sold a shed load, and is easily found, or was not highly regarded from the off, and was never valued highly at all.

...In either case, for it to have gotten only to 1st and second matrices by the time of this label would imply that if the ED 1 does exist, it may have been only fleeting, barely touching the time that label was in use, whereas this is relatively ubiquitous.

So the odd scenario could be true, where as ED 1 label copy could be among the rarest in the catalogue, but this next label and on, the most commonly found.

(If, of course, the ED 1 does exist!)

PhilMH
30th May 2017
Bamberg Symphony Orchestra

Dance Of The Seven Veils "Salome" - Waltz Scene "Intermezzo"
Release date from ad promoting May releases in that month's issue of Gramophone.

PhilMH
28th May 2017
Clifford Curzon With The London Symphony Orchestra

Grieg: Piano Concerto - Litolff: Scherzo - Franck: Symphonic Variations
Release month from Decca's 1974 catalogue.

Magic Marmalade
26th May 2017
Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch. And Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

Lollipops By Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch.
Had a look at those Phil, and I'm fairly certain the red labels there with the thinner rim around the shaded dog - with gold text are earlier - coming, as they do in a scalloped flip-back sleeve.

...The other red ones (bold white text) were what they switched the older ones to, to match stereo issue labels once they'd gone from the white / golds, so the mono and stereos were uniform in design.

These later ones would have been issued in non-scalloped, flip-back sleeves.

The older labels are what HMV later emulated in the "retro" design... trying to evoke that era for their albums in the 70s - quadrophonics etc.

PhilMH
26th May 2017
Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch. And Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

Lollipops By Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch.
Discogs has two mono copies of this, with different labels, and the year entered as 1959, which appears to be the year applicable to the stereo issue. I have no idea which of the two labels came first.

PhilMH
26th May 2017
Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch. And Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

Lollipops By Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch.
Screenshots of full cover, and section showing release date, added.

PhilMH
26th May 2017
Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch. And Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

Lollipops By Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch.
Featured on the front cover of the December 1957 issue of GRAMOPHONE, stating "Available December 6".

Gill Sans
25th May 2017
Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch. And Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

Lollipops By Sir Thomas Beecham, Bart., Ch.
This will be another compilation of tracks taken from records of full works. If you look through the full Beecham discography here you may find some of the albums which were used here


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