Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:31 AM
Maraya1969 (14,154 posts)
New Report Ryan and Mcconnell took millions from Russian oligarch tied to Putin
If McConnell and Ryan are indicted along with Trump and Pence does a Democrat get to be president?
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/04/new-report-reveals-mcconnell-ryan-took-millions-russian-oligarch-tied-putin/ A series of top Republican elected officials have just been exposed for accepting outsized donations from one of the world’s richest men, Leonid “Len” Blavatnik. Blavatnik is a Ukrainian-born businessman whose fortune comes from owning a company purchased by Putin’s Rosneft, the state-run Russian oil company cited in the infamous Russian “pee tape” dossier. Americans have asked why Congressional Republicans continued to defend President Trump’s secret relationship with Putin and their collision in last year’s elections, and these massive Super PAC donations could help explain why. The Dallas News just issued a stunning report based on public records recently uncovered by the Democratic Coalition, that the Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and Senate Majority leader McConnell have taken a Putin-connected billionaire Blavatnik’s cash: -------- Donald Trump and the political action committees for Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Lindsey Graham, John Kasich and John McCain accepted $7.35 million in contributions from a Ukrainian-born oligarch who is the business partner of two of Russian president Vladimir Putin’s favorite oligarchs and a Russian government bank.
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New Report Ryan and Mcconnell took millions from Russian oligarch tied to Putin (Original post) |
Maraya1969 | Aug 2017 | OP |
brush | Aug 2017 | #1 | |
TheDebbieDee | Aug 2017 | #57 | |
FakeNoose | Aug 2017 | #60 | |
ProudLib72 | Aug 2017 | #2 | |
FakeNoose | Aug 2017 | #61 | |
madaboutharry | Aug 2017 | #3 | |
politicat | Aug 2017 | #6 | |
thesquanderer | Aug 2017 | #13 | |
canetoad | Aug 2017 | #14 | |
politicat | Aug 2017 | #35 | |
Corvo Bianco | Aug 2017 | #40 | |
Maraya1969 | Aug 2017 | #48 | |
WheelWalker | Aug 2017 | #4 | |
Wellstone ruled | Aug 2017 | #5 | |
BigmanPigman | Aug 2017 | #12 | |
Wellstone ruled | Aug 2017 | #50 | |
procon | Aug 2017 | #7 | |
Generic Other | Aug 2017 | #9 | |
C Moon | Aug 2017 | #11 | |
madokie | Aug 2017 | #22 | |
Achilleaze | Aug 2017 | #29 | |
jaysunb | Aug 2017 | #75 | |
mwooldri | Aug 2017 | #68 | |
Generic Other | Aug 2017 | #8 | |
C Moon | Aug 2017 | #10 | |
malaise | Aug 2017 | #27 | |
AJT | Aug 2017 | #15 | |
ProudProgressiveNow | Aug 2017 | #16 | |
barbtries | Aug 2017 | #17 | |
lindysalsagal | Aug 2017 | #18 | |
lindysalsagal | Aug 2017 | #19 | |
Maraya1969 | Aug 2017 | #53 | |
Achilleaze | Aug 2017 | #20 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #21 | |
Justice | Aug 2017 | #23 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #25 | |
RandomAccess | Aug 2017 | #41 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #42 | |
RandomAccess | Aug 2017 | #43 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #54 | |
RandomAccess | Aug 2017 | #63 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #70 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #71 | |
RandomAccess | Aug 2017 | #82 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #84 | |
flying_wahini | Aug 2017 | #72 | |
RandomAccess | Aug 2017 | #83 | |
YCHDT | Aug 2017 | #32 | |
Girard442 | Aug 2017 | #31 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #38 | |
Qutzupalotl | Aug 2017 | #47 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Aug 2017 | #55 | |
Qutzupalotl | Aug 2017 | #81 | |
politicat | Aug 2017 | #36 | |
RandomAccess | Aug 2017 | #44 | |
politicat | Aug 2017 | #56 | |
RandomAccess | Aug 2017 | #64 | |
Justice | Aug 2017 | #24 | |
mucifer | Aug 2017 | #26 | |
Kentonio | Aug 2017 | #28 | |
furtheradu | Aug 2017 | #30 | |
Squinch | Aug 2017 | #33 | |
WinkyDink | Aug 2017 | #34 | |
BSdetect | Aug 2017 | #37 | |
chimpymustgo | Aug 2017 | #45 | |
stuffmatters | Aug 2017 | #74 | |
stuffmatters | Aug 2017 | #76 | |
Corvo Bianco | Aug 2017 | #39 | |
Fatemah2774 | Aug 2017 | #46 | |
shraby | Aug 2017 | #49 | |
sharedvalues | Aug 2017 | #51 | |
CrispyQ | Aug 2017 | #52 | |
Scurrilous | Aug 2017 | #58 | |
Botany | Aug 2017 | #59 | |
bucolic_frolic | Aug 2017 | #62 | |
Martin Eden | Aug 2017 | #65 | |
Iggo | Aug 2017 | #66 | |
SeloverB | Aug 2017 | #67 | |
riversedge | Aug 2017 | #77 | |
burrowowl | Aug 2017 | #69 | |
They_Live | Aug 2017 | #73 | |
syringis | Aug 2017 | #78 | |
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:40 AM
brush (19,953 posts)
1. They're all dirty. It's all coming out now.
Response to brush (Reply #1)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:57 PM
TheDebbieDee (11,119 posts)
57. Most of the republicans are dirty!
Why else would they allow Trump and the Russians to get away with rigging/stealing the republican primaries?!?!
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Response to brush (Reply #1)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:26 PM
FakeNoose (7,483 posts)
60. This CANNOT be surprising to anybody on DU
...we've been seeing this info hinted all along since a year ago.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:41 AM
ProudLib72 (12,086 posts)
2. Supposedly, some repukes already wanted McTurtle's resignation
Hopefully, this new report will add enough pressure to make that inevitable. I would LOVE to see McTurtle and The Granny Killer resign in shame.
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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:30 PM
FakeNoose (7,483 posts)
61. Totally agree, but it doesn't work that way
Until the GOP members of Congress are convinced that it's in their best interest to get rid of these guys, they'll never buck they current leadership.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:55 AM
madaboutharry (28,932 posts)
3. 4th in line is Orrin Hatch.
Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:34 AM
politicat (9,808 posts)
6. Of the potentials, he's the first I don't actively curse.
I don't like him, don't trust him, think he would be icky, but...
There's a Mormon Culture prophecy about "the One Mighty and Strong." It gets used for a lot of nefarious bullshit, from Mormon fundamentalism motivated murder, to propelling self-aggrandizing, easily convinced dolts to run for office, but in recent years, it's been interpreted to mean a successful LDS president. Jon Huntsman was never going to get it applied to him (too close to cultural Mormon in name only) but Romney was a contender for it. It's never been applied to Hatch, certainly not as a caretaker in a dead engine, being towed administration. Hatch would not be re-elected; too many in the R base still think of Mormons as heretics. I'd really like that prophecy to be nailed closed and ignored, and getting their first president by technicality would take a lot of power from that nonsense. And Hatch is relatively clean for a Republican. (Which means the mud will wash out with enough Tide and hot water.) |
Response to politicat (Reply #6)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:42 AM
canetoad (9,028 posts)
14. No, this mud is sticky
If he ends up in the *Chair, his tenure is soiled by association.
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Response to canetoad (Reply #14)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:06 AM
politicat (9,808 posts)
35. *This* mud is sticky. Hatch's previous mud is relatively washable.
Anybody who ends up caretaking is ruined. I want Hatch in part because I want him ruined, and Hatch means Pence and Ryan are rocking their new orange duds, and Hatch keeps Tillerson out. After Tillerson is Mnuchin, then Mattis, who is my next okay, this isn't immediately lethal. But after Mattis, there's a whole line of crooks, liars, thieves and dolts, until we get to Rick Perry, who is all of the above. Yeah.
So I despise and loathe Orrin Hatch, but he's the least awful in the upper 1/3 of the succession list. He doesn't wank to Altas Shrugged or Deuteronomy, he's been in elected government for more than a hot minute, and he has beliefs and morals. I may disagree with them, but this is my Hamiltonian endorsement of Jefferson over Burr - I disagree with everything he stands for, but he stands for something. |
Response to politicat (Reply #6)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:37 AM
Corvo Bianco (1,008 posts)
40. After a lifetime immersed in mormonism
I have to say you underestimate the power of their "prophecies". If a Mormon president is brought about "technically" that will make no difference to them. It will be a sign from on high, it will energize them and with childlike servitude the members will be "spiritually guided" to double down on spreading Joseph Smith's pedophile gospel throughout the world, all of which I'm not a fan. I hope a Mormon never gets into office.
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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:07 PM
Maraya1969 (14,154 posts)
48. Oh gag me.
Hopefully, some journalists can do a little more investigating and find that he is also getting money from the Russians.
At what point do they just drop the party and give it back to the party that actually won the election? You don't have to answer because I know it is most likely never. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:06 AM
WheelWalker (6,242 posts)
4. Now don't tease, please...
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:15 AM
Wellstone ruled (20,116 posts)
5. Something we all must be aware of,
yesterday,Ryan had a comment about Suppressing the Vote if he did not get his Legislative Agenda approved. Understand the speech was in Wisconsin.
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #5)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:59 AM
BigmanPigman (20,708 posts)
12. What does he mean by that?
Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:25 PM
Wellstone ruled (20,116 posts)
50. Pretty obvious.
Ryan and McConnell have been very subtle about the money and other means to win in 2018. Pretty much,we are going to pull out all the stops,and by the way we count the votes.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:35 AM
procon (11,741 posts)
7. All 435 seats in the U.S. House are up for election in 2018.
It would be the perfect storm if the FBI investigation was concluding next summer and then indictments going out just before the election. That would put the Dems back in the majority with a new House Speaker and that would be a game changer in the line of succession. That's my fantasy anyway.
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Response to procon (Reply #7)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:42 AM
Generic Other (24,937 posts)
9. If they get away with this
we can no longer pretend that everything is fixable.
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Response to procon (Reply #7)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:56 AM
C Moon (6,540 posts)
11. I don't even think we've fixed any of the voting issues. It's not even being talked about.
There's a lot that has to be done.
We need to go back to paper ballots. Although, there's the "hanging chad" issue there, as well. |
Response to C Moon (Reply #11)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 08:39 AM
madokie (51,076 posts)
22. We have paper ballots
check the box, no hanging chads shit,, But, but we have electronic vote counting machines and thats just as bad as the black boxes in my book
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Response to procon (Reply #7)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:16 AM
Achilleaze (11,323 posts)
29. There will be a massive, unrelenting KGOP propaganda projection storm
The KGOP has been working at the gaslighting and projections steadily, sytematically for some time. As the noose tightens around their TraitorWeasel throats, they will ramp it up to an insane level: fake investigation, Dems are actually the traitors, Hillary's emails, Comey and Mueller are Dem stooges out to deprive the "real republican america" of its cherished "family-values" role model, Comrade Casino, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief. etc. etc. ad nauseum,
Over and over and over, incessantly, at insane-making volume. |
Response to Achilleaze (Reply #29)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:53 PM
jaysunb (10,839 posts)
75. I don't think it will work this time around. Trump has probably been our best hope
in awhile, based on the near universal dislike of him and his party. I suspect there will be a lot of voters at the polls next time around.
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Response to procon (Reply #7)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 05:12 PM
mwooldri (8,017 posts)
68. President Nancy Pelosi?
But that would mean indicting Trump and Pence simultaneously... in 2019, and assuming the Democrats take the house.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:40 AM
Generic Other (24,937 posts)
8. Is this a Hail Mary of Friday Recess dumps?
Do they think if they confess now, Father Mueller will let them off with just a few tears of remorse?
They are so calculating and disgusting. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:53 AM
C Moon (6,540 posts)
10. I knew something was up when Lyin' Ryan changed his stance on Trump so suddenly.
It almost looked like someone had a gun to his head: he looked scared.
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Response to C Moon (Reply #10)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:13 AM
malaise (179,649 posts)
27. and then he told the ReTHUG leadership to swear to secrecy
when McCarthy told them the Con and the other idiot from California were on Putin's payroll.
Don't you love these great American patriots? |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:53 AM
AJT (2,744 posts)
15. I wonder what's going to happen.........oh yeah, nothing.
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:59 AM
ProudProgressiveNow (5,608 posts)
16. K&R; nt
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:18 AM
barbtries (20,502 posts)
17. the corruption runs so deep
in the republican party. they have really made it work for them. i wish i knew that the constitution would win, but they have that shackled now too. scary days.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 06:50 AM
lindysalsagal (9,385 posts)
18. This is worth hacking election: Putting Tillerson in sec of state, the exxon mobil mogul
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 06:54 AM
lindysalsagal (9,385 posts)
19. I sent it to rachel.
Where would we be without her?????
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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #19)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:34 PM
Maraya1969 (14,154 posts)
53. Oh yea! Things spread far and wide if she reports on it!
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:13 AM
Achilleaze (11,323 posts)
20. republican TreasonWeasels deserve a full measure of justice
they shall live in infamy.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 08:18 AM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
21. As much as I want this to be true,
A whois search on washingtonjournal.com shows it's a privately registered GoDaddy site, which isn't exactly trustworthy for a news source. Also, the "report" from the Dallas News that they are basing this off of is an opinion piece.
No reliable news source is reporting on this. |
Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #21)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:00 AM
Justice (6,717 posts)
23. Its true, reports have been out there for months, just bubbling up to main stream now.
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Response to Justice (Reply #23)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:04 AM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
25. I will believe it when I see it.
Currently only being reported on by unscrupulous sites like the one in the OP and Palmer Report (which is rarely accurate).
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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #25)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:47 AM
RandomAccess (5,210 posts)
41. How many links do you want?
Scott Dworkin has done yeoman's work on this subject, and the info HAS been out there for months. Further, it's mostly or entirely in the public record so you could go do your own search. I'll give you a couple of links -- there are more, and I'm sure I don't have all of them.
McConnell linked super PAC took $2.5 million from a pro-Putin Ukrainian businessman Scott Dworkin ? @funder #TrumpLeaks Docs: Mitch McConnell linked super PAC took $2.5 million from a pro-Putin Ukrainian businessman last election cycle #trumprussia 6:58 PM - 21 May 2017 Link to tweet McConnell linked super PAC took $40,570,000 from 4 of Trump's largest backers Link to tweet Over 400 Trump Docs Leaked: Russian Money Tied to McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, McCain, and RNC http://www.bluedotdaily.com/over-400-trump-docs-leaked-russian-money-tied-to-mcconnell-cruz-rubio-mccain-and-rnc/ Here's a whole Twitter thread w/images: Link to tweet |
Response to RandomAccess (Reply #41)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:50 AM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
42. I want reputable sources.
Not twitter feeds and unreliable sites like Palmer Report, Blue Dot Daily, or Occupy Democrats.
If it's not being reported on by mainstream, reputable sources, then it either hasn't been verified or it is untrue. I'll wait before I get my hopes up. |
Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #42)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:52 AM
RandomAccess (5,210 posts)
43. Good grief, man - ORIGINAL SOURCES aren't good enough?
Okay, you're definitely on your own then.
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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #43)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:44 PM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
54. Hey, go ahead and believe every twitter and blog post
It worked out well for Fitzmas.
All I'm saying is take sites like these with a grain of salt, and wait for corroborating reports from reputable sources. That used to be something DUers prided themselves on. |
Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #54)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:52 PM
RandomAccess (5,210 posts)
63. Every twitter?
Perhaps you mean every tweet?
I take it you spend no time there. Pity. It's actually a more vibrant and up to the minute source of news than DU. I pride myself on being open to a wide range of sources of information and having the discernment to determine which are viable and "good," which are questionable but worth following for the potential info, and which are just bad. On both Facebook and Twitter, who you follow plus your responses to various tweets determines what kind of content flows through your timeline. Mine includes hard news sources, reliable pundits (e.g., Joy Reid, Jennifer Rubin), activists and activist groups, and people like Scott Dworkin who are 100% good and ahead of mainstream media because they're doing original research and don't have to deal with filters like overly cautious editors afraid of kicking that hornet's nest. I'm sure your approach works for you, but BOY are you limiting yourself. Your choice, though, and welcome to it. |
Response to RandomAccess (Reply #63)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 05:38 PM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
70. Fitzmas. Any day now. nt
Response to RandomAccess (Reply #63)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 06:01 PM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
71. Also, I'm quite aware of how Twitter works.
But I prefer to read more than 140 characters at a time. Allows for more in depth analysis. I also use facebook. Neither are good (or valid) news sources.
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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #71)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 03:20 PM
RandomAccess (5,210 posts)
82. With ALL the major news orgs posting there, of COURSE Twitter is a valid news source.
I'm having a little trouble thinking you're all that familiar with it, but I'll let you cling to your self-image as a worldly and oh-so-high-toned consumer of news.
And to repeat myself: And welcome to it. |
Response to RandomAccess (Reply #82)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:08 PM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
84. 24 business hours. Nt
Response to RandomAccess (Reply #41)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 06:20 PM
flying_wahini (1,648 posts)
72. I folllow Dworkin on twitter, too. Think he is the real deal. Good source.
Response to flying_wahini (Reply #72)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 03:31 PM
RandomAccess (5,210 posts)
83. It's hard not to be the real deal when you've got original source docs
But for some people, that's not good enough.
I have a friend on FB who also insists on "Christian Monitor or ... " I forget what his other main choice is or new, and while that's an analogy rather than a hard rule, he limits himself SO MUCH by clinging to MSM alone. I've also seen him jump all over something similar to a Daily Kos reiteration (with links) of a hard news article, because his purist insistence on "valid" news sources prevents him from even looking at a piece. I call him on it whenever I get the chance. What I think is going on is that these people don't trust themselves to be able to discern -- or to learn to discern -- when they're being conned or tricked. Shrug. I feel like my own BS detector if fairly well tuned by this time. Not 100% accurate, but strong, and it gives me a LOT of help even with mainstream stories. I'll read something and think to myself, based on years of experience following political news and current affairs, that there's more to the story. Got to be. Naturally, I can't think of any examples at the moment, but there've been plenty. Usually the truth or more of it comes out within a few weeks if not sooner. It's a valuable skill, IMO, worth developing. |
Response to Justice (Reply #23)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:35 AM
YCHDT (962 posts)
32. We need a reliable source not just any source and claims of something
Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #21)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:34 AM
Girard442 (2,939 posts)
31. The original source is the Dallas Morning News.
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/tangled-web-connects-russian-oligarch-money-gop-campaigns
Looked them up on Wikipedia. They're pretty real. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dallas_Morning_News |
Response to Girard442 (Reply #31)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:20 AM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
38. Right, and I stated that in my post.
It's an OPINION piece in the Dallas Morning News.
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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #38)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:38 PM
Qutzupalotl (10,218 posts)
47. That doesn't mean the facts are made up.
Opinion pieces just give the reporter leeway to characterize the facts. In this case, the facts presented are damning.
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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #47)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:51 PM
Dr Hobbitstein (5,695 posts)
55. I didn't say anything was made up,
but if it IS legit, it will be REPORTED on in reputable mainstream sources, not as an opinon piece in a newspaper or a posting on a questionable blog.
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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #55)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 12:21 PM
Qutzupalotl (10,218 posts)
81. You didn't have to. Your implication is clear.
The SOURCE is FEC documents in the public record. Why you find that suspect is perplexing.
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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #21)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:09 AM
politicat (9,808 posts)
36. It's all at opensecrets, you just have to search for it.
The writing is following the threads and knitting them into a coherent narrative.
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Response to politicat (Reply #36)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:55 AM
RandomAccess (5,210 posts)
44. I think he's beyond hope on this -- I dunno what he thinks
"credible" entails, but -- for all those people who are out in the poppies believing what others consider "conspiracy theories," he's out in the poppies in the other direction, IMO.
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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #44)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:52 PM
politicat (9,808 posts)
56. Yeah, but other people read posts.
It's not completely shouting into a hurricane.
(Also, it's the Dallas (morning) news. Per Molly Ivins, who worked around it for decades, it tends to put stuff which can be broadly classified as "news that will upset our wealthy, white, republican base" not on the front page. Editorial is actually a good place for that article, given their readership. |
Response to politicat (Reply #56)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:53 PM
RandomAccess (5,210 posts)
64. Notice I didn't say don't post that
I was just shocked at this attitude and trying to commiserate.
Interesting comment about the Dallas paper. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:01 AM
Justice (6,717 posts)
24. Blavatnik also gave straight contributions of $2,700 to loads of candidates - Dem and GOP
Check out campaign money.com and search his name Leonard Blavatnik for the 2016 cycle.
Edited to add - easy to give contribution, he is a US citizen and no one would question it. But Mitch and others who received big bucks would know who gave it. Don't forget that Mitch and Ryan used their PACs to help campaigns - Mitch gave Burr $1 M for his campaign for example. The issue is whether money was really Blavatnik's or if it was from Russians funneled through him. |
Response to Justice (Reply #24)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:10 AM
mucifer (13,544 posts)
26. I thought the supreme court made it legal for candidates to accept as much money as possible
from foreign interests if it's done through PACs.
I hope I'm wrong. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:13 AM
Kentonio (3,883 posts)
28. Does any force in the country have a chance against the White House, Congress and Senate?
If the heads of all three have their backs against the wall, what chance does Mueller or the FBI really have? If this actually happened and all 4 of them went down, I would maybe start to believe in America as a genuinely free country again, but I'm sure as hell not holding my breath.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:19 AM
furtheradu (1,852 posts)
30. K & R..& thanks!
Pls read, & share!
trump-rusky-republikers all in it, & on Team Mueller's radar. BELIEVE IT.💖 |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:52 AM
Squinch (25,525 posts)
33. These investigations are ONE way to clean the swamp. Oh, and thanks Citizens United.
Never saw it coming that unlimited money in elections would lead to this kind of corruption. Really, who could have known?
Criminals, all of them. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:05 AM
WinkyDink (51,311 posts)
34. Lenny Blavatnik! Potrzebie High, Class of '67! Fun times.
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:12 AM
BSdetect (5,014 posts)
37. You could tell they fucking knew about the election hacking.
Response to BSdetect (Reply #37)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:24 PM
chimpymustgo (12,591 posts)
45. Wonder how many Senate and House seats they stole? And WILL steal in 2018?
As some have pointed out - these people are trying to pass such horrible legislation - they don't seem to be worried at ALL about re-election.
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Response to chimpymustgo (Reply #45)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:38 PM
stuffmatters (1,844 posts)
74. Their hideously unpopular bills indicate Repugs unworried about fair reelection. Also ? Issa win.
As far as Congress 2016 theft I've been pretty suspicious since Nov of how Doug Applegate "lost" to Darrell Issa by just 1500 votes that came at the end from Orange County. San Diego, which is a pretty bipartisan, Democratic leaning County, went large for Applegate. How did the smaller portion of this district that's in OC out weight Applegate's lead coming out of San Diego County?
Especially since the vote from this whole district went Hillary. Issa is not a liked politician in his district; hard to imagine anyone who voted for Hillary voting for Issa. Especially after Applegate's brilliant ad alerted everybody that Issa voted against the 911 First Responders. Issa's final desperate flood of character assassination ads on Applegate's past, messy divorce also was nothing like what we've seen before in political ads in this district. Kind of reeked of this new Repug Russian collaborative Op Research and was definitely cyber targeted (Cambridge) to The Fundies of OC market. (Funny, The OC is probably the messy divorce capital of the USA, so doubt those old divorce records they dug up had much impact on other OC voters) |
Response to stuffmatters (Reply #74)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:55 PM
stuffmatters (1,844 posts)
76. The Koch's were caught in Ca (2012 Props 30 &32) laundering dark foreign money,n.b ALEC,NRA,AFP, etc
Time to start looking into the slush funding of all Republican anti Democracy organizations...the Kochs, for example, their end game is no different than Putin's.
I deeply suspect that these 501C4 TAXFREE (i.e. we pay instead), secret donor Republican machines(including the Religious Right) major part of their funding and propaganda infrastructure. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:27 AM
Corvo Bianco (1,008 posts)
39. Yayyyyyy
What a sad day that the speaker and majority leader are Russian first.
They better lose their asses. Get em Mueller |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:30 PM
Fatemah2774 (174 posts)
46. Oh just wait till the Special Prosecutor hears this...
As Al Bundy once said, get em now, get em good and then get em again.
I want to see the draining of the swamp while I sing Rubber Duckie with Ernie...let's get clean for thiose orange jumosuits! |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:08 PM
shraby (21,240 posts)
49. Scum aren't they?
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:28 PM
sharedvalues (4,840 posts)
51. Trump campaign agreed to take illegal Chinese money
This is underreported. From 2016.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/ |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:32 PM
CrispyQ (25,251 posts)
52. I want to see McConnell in an orange jumpsuit even more than Trump. -nt
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:24 PM
Botany (48,426 posts)
59. And these guys know that the elections were rigged too.
Treason
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:39 PM
bucolic_frolic (11,610 posts)
62. They was smug and smirky and please as punch with themselves over something
you could read it all year long
They made the most of Scalia's demise |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 04:46 PM
Martin Eden (8,462 posts)
65. Can you imagine if Hillary was POTUS and these revelations came out ...
... with Democrats accepting the foreign money when Russia hacked the election in her favor?
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 04:48 PM
Iggo (39,201 posts)
66. I hear Orrin Hatch is the first one in the line of succession
...who didn't take money from the Russians.
And I'm not even sure he didn't. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 04:50 PM
SeloverB (26 posts)
67. Time for Public Funding of our Elections!
Can we stop this crap if we don't?
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Response to SeloverB (Reply #67)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:34 PM
riversedge (46,191 posts)
77. Would take Courage and Political will, which does not exist.
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 05:32 PM
burrowowl (11,793 posts)
69. May they be caught and convicted
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:38 PM
They_Live (2,592 posts)
73. Sometimes
I get bored with being right all the time, but I was right again about this.
Will anyone do anything about it? |
Response to They_Live (Reply #73)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:14 PM
syringis (4,975 posts)
78. Depending of which angle you look at it...
...to a certain point, this clownish administration have some coherence. Sort of...
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:48 PM
syringis (4,975 posts)
79. Depending of which angle you look at it...
...to a certain point, this clownish administration have some coherence. Sort of... |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 12:40 AM
guss (208 posts)
80. Clarity
This makes me understand why they are willing to throw Millions of Americans under the bus.
They Take a Pay Check from American Taxes and Are serving a Foreign entity. |