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BBC documentary - 'The Mormon Candidate' (Romney, LDS church). Also shunned or "post mormons" speak.

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• published: 28 Mar 2012
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1st draught • A short clip from an interesting 1 hour documentary shown Tuesday 27 March 2012 (Britain) on Mormons, Mormonism and Mitt Romney, a wealthy politician. This is of interest to me. As regards the programme, it is revealing that one of the leaders had a slip of the tongue in calling President Obama, "Osama". Also it is of interest to me - other than the outlandish shunning pantomime, an obdurate religio-playact conducted and control managed also in the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower cult of practising 'shunning' of members. This is a silly, jesterish deprivation device to imply by gag, and to belittle & tactically diminish the person that they have fallen out of favour with something perceived as estimable and those holding up its (interpreted) value system. Do leaders or 'elders' get shunned? And is it ever given regard that bible directives note 'allow yourself to be wronged' as well as removing people from the 'church' by excommunication. Which one has precedence over the other?, how is the balance of those 2 dynamics arrived at.? Love the higher law, that believes and endures all things, is clearly relegated in the modern 'church', and i ask how and who is going to shun out these leaders who are 'shunning' members, members of their personal church whom ironically fulfil scripture by sinning. If love never fails, whereby a church 'elder' does, who checks their hand.? Who is there to extirpate the haughty from high office as they shepherd yet engage in shun-worthy behaviour.? Outright criminal lawbreaking on occasion. It may be that they are too busy removing undesireables from 'their personal church' for to check their officious selves, having any mind or pastoral view to measure themselves as being those foretold as having the form of a wolf in the clothing of a sheep. - It is of interest to me as 2 mormons came to my door not too long ago and said that Noah's ark, when it came to rest as the waters subsided, resting on mountains "and those mountains were the mountains that are in America". ! I was stunned. I confirmed what i was being told by 2 mormon 'elders', and again they said that Noah's ark rested on the mountains that are in America. They said to me "It doesn't actually say America in the bible, but that is what it means." They were saying that Noah's ark, after the flood, the global deluge, came to rest on the Rocky mountains in North America. I apologise in advance for my language, but i have not heard so much shite since i had the blinding acrid misfortune in of being in the Watchtower cult from (approximately) birth. ___ Documentary Location Sources Ref http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01f87w2 From the BBC website about this programme,-- 'International investigative documentary series. John Sweeney investigates Mormonism, the belief system of Mitt Romney, the potential Republican candidate for the 2012 US election.' © BBC About the 60min programme, also from BBC website, "John Sweeney investigates the beliefs of Mitt Romney, the man most likely to take on Barack Obama later this year, and asks whether America is ready for a Mormon president. Sweeney travels to Utah to examine the appeal of the world's fastest growing religion. He meets the stars of its expensive ad campaign 'I'm a Mormon', who tell him of their dedication to family and charity. He meets polygamists, followers of an old Mormon tradition the official Church has turned its back on, he talks to missionaries who recruit people around the world just like Mitt Romney in the sixties, finds ex-members who claim they are cut off from their families and accuse Mormonism of being a cult, and he explores the faith with a Mormon apostle." © BBC ___ The Mormons baptise people who have died.! Some 10 times. "We are 14 million and growing." That is no evidence of validity. Abstaining from tea, coffee and alcohol (explained in the programme) has no scriptural grounding. The bible speaks of 'moderation' and it does not make stipulations on beverages other than 'drunkenness'. Their own book of mormon is evidently put to the fore to the bible's exclusion. This is not compatible with the bible and the spirit in which it was written. Spying and shunning - those disowned - is strongly claimed to happen to members/ former members. The programme goes on to enlarge on this. This disowning && shunning is not denied by those who are in the mormon cult, and by people actually doing it. TAGS--"Professor Robert Putnam" LDS Romney "This World" "John Sweeney" cult shunned alienation polygamy mormon rituals symbolism "multiple wives" tithe "Jeffrey R Holland" America temple "Mitt Romney" "Scott Helman" "slit throat" "slit bowels" secrecy "high control group" "personal pledge" "No religious test for office" disowned "post cult adjustment" Utah "social capital" religion politics • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/17/mitt-romney-not-much-definition-speaking-fees_n_1210522.html