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Who would have predicted that Hawthorn would be propping up the ladder four rounds into the 2017 season?
This week on The Age Real Footy Podcast, Michael Gleeson, Caroline Wilson and Greg Baum discuss just what is going on at Hawthorn and put the focus on Collingwood as well.
Good Friday footy was great, Nat Fyfe is captain courageous, Hopper pops through a ripper, Eddie kicks six including the usual bit of genius and Riewoldt is sublime as Tiges remain unbeaten.
Richmond and Melbourne captains Trent Cotchin and Jack Viney believe the negative opinion aimed at individual players such as Tyrone Vickery can cause a heavy mental impact.
Good Friday footy was great, Nat Fyfe is captain courageous, Hopper pops through a ripper, Eddie kicks six including the usual bit of genius and Riewoldt is sublime as Tiges remain unbeaten.
There's also talk about the "Andos" (Richmond, Adelaide and Geelong, we're looking at you), Bob Murphy ahead of his 300th game this weekend, and the hope among Carlton fans.
All this, plus whispers of a big VFL club raising eyebrows around the league and much more in the latest episode of the podcast.