Talk:Napoleonic Wars

Persia's role and in the article and on the map

Persia was firmly allied to France for several years following the Finkenstein treaty, and France was allied to Russia in the other years of the Napoleonic wars. Military diplomacy as part of the Napoleonic Wars subsequently commenced during the Russo-Persian War (1804-1813) It would be nice if Qajar Persia's role, albeit minor, could be covered somewhere in the article as well as they largely led the front in the North and South Caucasus.

Also this map needs to be adjusted. If someone could do that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars#mediaviewer/File:NapoleonicWars.png

Regards - LouisAragon (talk) 16:23, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

"Despite the Treaty of Finckenstein, France failed to win a diplomatic war around Persia and none of the terms of the treaty were realized. On 12 March 1809, the United Kingdom signed a treaty with Persia forcing the French out of that country."

Sounds like minor is overstating it.

205.175.240.242 (talk), 21:45, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Space between lede pictures

Can we please keep the separation between the two lede pictures? It just looks dumb and confusing to have them run together. --A D Monroe III (talk) 20:16, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. --A D Monroe III (talk) 19:47, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Engvar question

At an earlier stage this article was written in British English spelling. It now seems to be in American English, yet I cannot see where a discussion took place here in talk about it. Any idea what happened? --John (talk) 19:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Never mind, I took care of it. --John (talk) 22:53, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Revised Result infobox

Normally something like this would not be an issue if it were reinforced with sources, but due to the complexity of this topic, I felt it best to garner a broad consensus first. I think the result box in the infobox is both too cluttered, and giving too little information on the actual result of the war, when compared to others, such as the Thirty Years War, the Seven Years War and the American Revolutionary War. I realise the Napoleonic Wars was "technically" an agglomeration of separate conflicts, but most historians, scholars, and the public, refer to the Napoleonic Wars as one conflict. The more comprehensive results of each individual conflict can, after all, be read up on by navigating to each coalition war, whereas I believe the result of the Napoleonic Wars infobox overall, should give a more comprehensive summary of the results of the wars overall, rather than listing the result of each individual coalition. Therefore, I propose the result box to read the following, as derived from the "political effects" section of the Napoleonic Wars page:

Napoleonic Wars Top: Battle of Austerlitz Bottom: Battle of Waterloo Date 18 May 1803 – 20 November 1815 (12 years, 6 months and 2 days) Location Europe, Americas, Africa, Asia Result Overall Coalition victory: Fall of the French Republic and the First French Empire Exile of Napoleon I to St. Helena Restoration of the Bourbon monarchy Dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire Rise of the British Empire as the dominant world power Rise of the Kingdom of Prussia as a great power Severe weakening of the Spanish Empire and Portuguese Empire Widespread rise of nationalism Widespread rise of liberalism Belligerents United Kingdom Austria Hungary Russia Prussia Sweden Spain Portugal Ottoman Empire Persia Sicily Bavaria Württemberg Saxony Sardinia Netherlands Brunswick Tuscany French Royalists Hanover Nassau Montenegro France French clients: Italy Duchy of Warsaw Polish Legions Holland Etruria Lucca and Piombino Naples Swiss Confederation Confederation of the Rhine: Bonapartist Spain Spain Denmark–Norway Austria Ottoman Empire Russia Prussia Persia Sweden Commanders and leaders William Pitt Duke of Portland Spencer Perceval Lord Liverpool Duke of Wellington Viscount Nelson † Francis I Archduke Charles Prince von Schwarzenberg Alexander I Mikhail Kutuzov Michael Andreas Barclay de Tolly Frederick William III Gebhard von Blücher Napoleon I Louis Alexandre Berthier Joachim Murat   Louis-Nicolas Davout Jean Lannes † André Masséna Michel Ney   Jean-de-Dieu Soult Strength 3,500,000 Russian 2,500,000 Austrian 2,000,000 Prussian 1,000,000 British 800,000 Spanish 500,000 Portuguese 250,000 Swedish 200,000 Italian Total: 11,000,000 7,000,000 French Casualties and losses 600,000 Russian 400,000 Austrian 300,000 British 250,000 Prussian 150,000 Spanish 100,000 Portuguese 50,000 Swedish 50,000 Italian Total: 2,000,000 1,300,000 French 100,000 allies of the French Total: 1,400,000 - 2,000,000 civilians (see full list)

(RockDrummerQ (talk) 17:48, 18 December 2016 (UTC))

War of 1812 part of the Napoleonic Wars ?

Following this revert [1], I have edited the War of 1812 accordingly [2]. Blaue Max (talk) 18:48, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

This has been discussed in detail before. The result was the decision that the War of 1812 was related to but not directly of the Napoleonic Wars and therefor not included in this article in as much as the info box is concerned.Tirronan (talk) 19:18, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I have no definite opinion as to the relation of the War of 1812 with the Napoleonic Wars, but I found it strange that they ~were related in teh Napoleonic Wars article, but not in the War of 1812 article.Blaue Max (talk) 20:09, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm in about the same boat, don't really care one way or the other but if you go back far enough I'm sure the arguments will be there.Tirronan (talk) 21:37, 26 December 2016 (UTC)