Sun Apr 2, 2017, 07:48 PM

underpants (126,138 posts)

Just saw "Beauty and the Beast" - I'd forgotten about the "controversy"

Really really well done movie on a grand scale. Saw it at a dinner bistro place.
For the amount of CGI that had to be used it didn't show. My family said the wolves looked a little too CGI but I didn't notice it. Emma Watson was a fantastic choice for "Belle". It stayed very true to the original animation with one small bit at the end changed (I'm told).

Two things I'd forgotten until the movie started.
1. It's a musical. Of course it is but it didn't hit me until Belle starts singing at the beginning of the movie. "Oh God it's a musical" I thought. My wife said she could FEEL my angst when I thought it.
2. The "controversy" about the gay men. There were actually two *winks* in it. The one that got all the attention was so quick I didn't even see who the second actor was. Literally 2 seconds of screen time.

Highly recommend it and musicals are not my thing at all. I'm just born that way I guess.

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Just saw "Beauty and the Beast" - I'd forgotten about the "controversy" (Original post)	underpants	Apr 2	OP
My mother, who is very liberal, saw the film.	Aristus	Apr 2	#1
It's actually a really old Hollywood big dance number	underpants	Apr 2	#2
As said, one gay character is over before you notice it, it is more of a drag moment than gay	HoneyBadger	Apr 2	#3
Yes and yes.	underpants	Apr 2	#5
I thought the controversy was the Stockholm syndrome?	Jonny Appleseed	Apr 2	#4
So THAT'S the problem with the in-laws	underpants	Apr 2	#6
How dare they	TlalocW	Apr 2	#7
Saw it right after it opened with my granddaughter. She didn't	sinkingfeeling	Apr 2	#8
We also saw it tonight	Nonhlanhla	Apr 2	#9
The sets and outfits we very well dome.	underpants	Apr 2	#10

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 07:52 PM

Aristus (39,177 posts)

1. My mother, who is very liberal, saw the film.

She says the 'controversy' is no controversy at all; says the scene is much ado about nothing.

The whole hubbub is just the religious fanatics frantically searching for the spotlight...

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:00 PM

underpants (126,138 posts)

2. It's actually a really old Hollywood big dance number

Ballroom dancing with about 50 (?) people in it.

Kids don't notice that stuff anyway. It was like the innuendos they put in animation for the adults to share a joke.

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:04 PM

HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)

3. As said, one gay character is over before you notice it, it is more of a drag moment than gay

The other is more of an ongoing joke, which I considered to be a cheap shot.

Unmentioned anywhere that I have seen is how interracial it is. Maybe that is now considered SOP in children's movies? I thought that it was very positive, but it is invisible to kids. A lot of little girls in princess dresses seeing it 2 or 3 times, but I suspect that Boss Baby crushed it this weekend. Go Alec!!!

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:28 PM

underpants (126,138 posts)

5. Yes and yes.

The drag joke was more noticeable.

The diverse cast was good to see in my mind.

The two BIG STARS who we didn't see until the end were a surprise to me. There were noises of surprise made when spew saw who Mrs. Potts was. I'm usually really good at voices but I put that on hold because I knew I'd just be torturing myself the whole movie. The actor who played the candlestick even in real life confounded me (the wig threw me off), I thought it was Kenneth Branagh for a minute but then I got it.

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:18 PM

Jonny Appleseed (960 posts)

4. I thought the controversy was the Stockholm syndrome?

But let's be real, until these past couple centuries marrying out of love was abnormal, hence most loves were all basically Stockholm syndrome. Get married, your parents get a goat, and it's your job to try and fall for the thrice your age dirtfarming spouse that had an excess of goats.

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:29 PM

underpants (126,138 posts)

6. So THAT'S the problem with the in-laws

They never got the goat. They get my goat ifyouknowwhatimean.

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:13 PM

TlalocW (11,101 posts)

7. How dare they

Put in a gay moment into my favorite Disney Bestiality musical???

Hopefully, I've offended everyone at some level with that. I'm sick and feeling surly.

TlalocW

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 10:54 PM

sinkingfeeling (33,498 posts)

8. Saw it right after it opened with my granddaughter. She didn't

notice anything about gay men, but did note the ending was slightly different then when we saw it performed on stage.

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:00 PM

Nonhlanhla (1,646 posts)

9. We also saw it tonight

Took our 7 year old to go see it. We loved it. The music is lovely, the scenery is well done, Kevin Kline, Emma Thompson, Ewan McGregor, Ian McKellen, Emma Watson...all favorites of mine. I must have missed the controversy - is it about the split second where LeFou dances with another guy? Gee whiz...HUGELY controversial..not.

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Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:11 PM

underpants (126,138 posts)

10. The sets and outfits we very well dome.

Agathe's set up was impressive

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