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Wikipedia:Plankton (Character) was not vandalized

The things I added to Plankton (Character) where events that actually happened in the last episode. I do not appreciate you marking it as vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.200.173.138 (talk) 17:40, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Season 10 hasn't even happened yet and you had a history of making dubious edits to that page. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:22, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

...need to put back redlinks, if you agree

@IronGargoyle and Checkingfax: Hi User:IronGargoyle. I am working on the List of flamenco guitarists. I find the redlinked guitarists noteworthy, but unfortunately sources or Wikipedia articles only exist in Spanish, French, and German. This makes it easy for me since I have several mother tongues and I intended to give these guitarists an article, albeit sometimes a stub, in English. To do so, I need to restore the redlinked names you removed, if you don't have any objection, in order to have at hand precisely which guitarist I am researching and translating. Thus, would you mind if I undid your recent redlink removals? I should be finished translating all guitarists in about 2 months. Many thanks for your kind consideration; ...much appreciated. PS. I would be amiss not to congratulate you on your amazing Wikipedia accomplishments—so many created articles and contributions! Bravo! best wishes, Natalie --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 12:20, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

@Natalie.Desautels: Thank you for the note and I appreciate the compliment. You can certainly work at this in userspace. I've taken the liberty of copying the redlink-filled article for you to work on at User:Natalie.Desautels/List of flamenco guitarists. That way you can easily keep track of the missing articles and then add the links back to the main article (List of flamenco guitarists) as they become available, satisfying WP:LISTPEOPLE and keeping the main list tidy while you work. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:57, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Dear IronGargoyle. Natalie.Desautels, myself, and others have determined that the redlinked artists are notable. The non-notable ones have been previously deleted. I have therefore restored the list. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 12:08, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Dear IronGargoyle:

The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been. Because the group or set is notable, the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable

The list has been restored again. Ping Natalie.Desautels. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 23:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

@IronGargoyle and Checkingfax: Many thanks! Having the complete list available at a glance will make my time working on this list more efficient. There are quite a few sources available, mostly in my various languages, and I'm eager to roll up my sleeves again. You may not have noticed, but some of the names which were not redlinked were actually linked to non-English articles. I indicated these after the name, (with a little [es] for Spanish for example) as a reminder to myself, with the intention of translating them as well, but someone took away all my guidelines, and together with the redlinks disappearing, ...well, the redundancy started to accumulate and I had moved on ...after all, there's no shortage of interesting articles needing translation on Wikipedia ...some great ones in French!! But I am passionate about flamenco, so I'm glad this list is now in order, with a clear, visible path to follow. Many thanks once again; very much appreciated. very best wishes, Natalie --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 23:38, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

@Checkingfax: I understand where you are quoting from, but you seem to be willfully ignoring the WP:LISTPEOPLE guideline. And I quote: "A person is typically included in a list of people only if all the following requirements are met: *The person meets the Wikipedia notability requirement. *The person's membership in the list's group is established by reliable sources." Please knock it off. You two have what you need in userspace. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:17, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

PCGS article

Please do not waste your time arguing with the axe-to-grind troll who regularly vandalizes the PCGS article. He is a coward who uses a VPN to hide his identity.--PhiladelphiaInjustice (talk) 00:30, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Revoke talk page access of a blocked user

Based on what this user has done with their talk page while blocked, it may be a good idea to revoke talk page access from User:Jose rico taco nacho quesadilla mandela jones, whom you recently blocked. Thanks! 2607:FB90:2700:E2D0:0:2A:A39C:C101 (talk) 19:12, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Page access revoked. Thanks! IronGargoyle (talk) 19:18, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Uechi-Ryu--Help with Edit War

Sorry to bother, but a user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/32.97.110.58 keeps changing the order of the Major Organization section without explanation. I reverted the edit and requested this person discuss it on the Talk page for Uechi-Ryu. I also asked for a more senior member to vet the situation.

As I explain on the Talk: It is very subjective which organization "is more bigger important awesome" than another. For example, currently, the first organization listed is very small, the third is bigger than the second and the first, but advocates of the fifth could argue their organization is bigger than all of them!

I am not aware of a way to OBJECTIVELY resolve such fights, but I would like it to end. I fear members of every organization could potentially play with the order to satisfy whatever personal agenda the member has. For the record, I have not ordered/re-ordered the organizations based on what I think since it is not objective and the situation changes.

Thanks!98.227.140.14 (talk) 07:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Redlinks in orchestra lists

Good work on clearing out all those redlinks from the lists of orchestras. It was much overdue. I'll try to keep an eye out for the redlinks creeping back, but these days I'm often away from Wikipedia for long periods so I miss a lot of what's going on. --Deskford (talk) 17:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

List of African-American Greek and fraternal organizations

I'd like to serve as a 3rd party in between you and User:BlackAmerican. I think that most of these *can* be referenced as existing, though notability will definitely be more of an issue. The 60 miles google maps ref on the other hand needs to be Nuked from Orbit.Naraht (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

That's fine. I have no problem letting the entries be re-added if independent, reliable sources can be found for them. In fact, I selectively left the entries that User:BlackAmerican referenced. At the moment, however, you'll notice that the editor seems to be more interested in blindly reverting and ignoring the improvements that we've made to the article. IronGargoyle (talk) 16:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I referenced everything in quick fashion. Sorry I have to get back to work. The 60 miles google maps, shows that the original black fraternities Alpha Phi Alpha was influenced by Gamma Phi and Pi Gamma Omicron via CC Poindexter who went to the school that Pi Gamma Omicron was founded. He later went to Cornell and established Alpha Phi Alpha. Everything is inter connected and the 60 miles away is original research unless a reference is given. BlackAmerican (talk) 16:37, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Let's move the discussion to Talk:List of African-American Greek and fraternal organizations, OK?Naraht (talk) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Karnal edit

The Battle of Karnal took place on February 24, not February 13. Even the Wikipedia entry for that battle says so. I deleted the line from the February 13 entry because it's wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.208.33 (talk) 18:17, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

You are invited to discuss a controversial article you edited previously

You are invited to comment on the article "List of expeditions ordered by Muhammad" in the Wikipedia Administrators Notice Board. Your input is highly valued as you edited this article previously.

Click here: Controversial Islamic Article-90% of page wiped out by Muslims, possible bias to comment--Misconceptions2 (talk) 03:33, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Misattributed IP 70.119.101.208

Hello IronGargoyle

Not terribly important, I recently got this message, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:70.119.101.208&diff=cur. I believe that is my ip address, although I did not make the changes. I do have a account, although I tend to not log in just for viewing.

Just let me know if there’s anything I should do, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff.hykin (talk • contribs) 02:05, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Vroman's Bookstore

Hi,

You have removed the content that I've added to the Vroman's Bookstore page. I'm wondering why you thought this information was not neutral. It was all information that described the history of the store. Thanks. ACVroman (talk) 20:57, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

It was clearly promotional and your username indicates that you are likely affiliated with the organization in question. Please review WP:NPOV and WP:COI. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi about the google cast

So you deleted the page I made, I would like to say that, it was no mistake Google did change the name of the Chromecast to Google Cast so I redirected the page to what it now is.

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Please discuss at Talk:Chromecast before moving the page and never perform cut-and-paste move. If there is consensus, the move function should be used instead. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:26, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Would I be able to send a request to an administrator who can move the page to Google Cast — Preceding unsigned comment added by LegendUK4WIKI (talk • contribs) 22:31, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Transilvania

Simple the wiki should live the true not bidding so I got something to say First in Transilvaniaef Carpii whas the name of free Dacians Second the Roman empire take just 40% of old vulgar Latin DACIA The history of Transilvania or old DACIA is the nation born of -romanians and is very important to notice and don.t ignor the Dacians born Flavius Aetius a Roman general got a final and decisive victory over Attila all this are true and more like jhon huniadis who whas born from the Romanian family with Romanian name wich is ignored and this is not all I wonder why and wich interested is in this situation? Adrian focsa (talk) 23:39, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

IP 67.5.192.83 and Terry Bean

Hello. The IP you just removed TPA from is the latest incarnation of user Lurie2 who has been going after Terry Bean since at least October of last year, obviously feeling they have a score to settle (see this section on my talk page, linking Lurie2 to both this IP and a long string of other IPs, all geolocating to Portland, Oregon). So it's not a temporary problem that will go away after the 24h block has expired... Thomas.W ^talk 19:55, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I didn't set the block length, I just saw that the editor was using the talk page for disruptive purposes while blocked. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I know, I just want more people to know what it's about since I'm tired of watching the page, and also won't be here as much as I used to be. Thomas.W ^talk 20:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Jamie Masada

I'm wondering why you insist on adding all that non-neutral stuff and keep interfering with my trying to get rid of it? Miep2 (talk) 20:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I didn't see that version as particularly non-neutral and you just removed a bunch of maintenance tags and a bunch of referenced content without explaining why. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Well excuse me, but most if not all the 'stuff' that's mentioned on the Wikipedia-page *now*, is already on the www.laughfactory.com-site (doesn't Wikipedia want all those 'sob-stories' (like Richard Pryor handing him a bill of $100) gone? Don't they want an objective story? Like one single line for, say, how he opened the LF, supported by a reference, and then one line for the Comedy Camp, supported by a reference, and then on to the Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners, with a reference, and then the free Jewish services, with a reference?). That was EXACTLY how it was, you know, before people started butting in on March 24. Look here, Gargoyle, Mr. Masada has asked me to clean up this English Wikipedia page as good as possible and then translate said page into Dutch and French, likewise with the Laugh_Factory page. And I was just succeeding in that, I thought, with WORKING links or references. Miep2 (talk) 20:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC) Oh, and something else? I 'explain myself' on the history-page (you know, to the upper right of the page you see tabs 'read', 'edit source', 'edit', 'view history'?) Miep2 (talk) 21:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC) I'm very tempted to get rid of the 'march on Pennsylvania Avenue' but that's actually *not* mentioned on the site, so I'll leave it be for now.Miep2 (talk) 23:21, 30 March 2016 (UTC) I also just removed that 'this page has issues'-box, as that dated from 2014 and a lot has been done about it since then. Miep2 (talk) 23:37, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Lord Rothschild

Hey, was I wrong about Lord Rothschild? You reverted my edit, and I thought I was accurate. Leonig Mig (talk) 08:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Can you identify the edit more specifically? I may very well have, but I'm not seeing where I reverted your edit. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:25, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Cleaning of Red Links

If we consider the "List of..." articles as informative in themselves, can you just removed the wikilink code, leaving the actual name? If not, the "List of ...." becomes a "List of ... with wikipedia article" which defeats the purpose of having the list in the first place. It is not a NavBox. I appreciate your hard work. I was just wondering, since by removing the names, the lists become incomplete. Thanks for you consideration on this.--Coquidragon (talk) 16:51, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

I've been careful not to remove redlinks and non-notable entries from comprehensive lists (i.e., lists that contain every member of a certain category) nor to remove well-referenced list entries. This follows the logic of WP:LISTPEOPLE and WP:LISTCOMPANY. Can you be more specific about the list(s) you have a concern about? Thanks. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Pash Bash

I *suspect* they're not actually a sock, just raiding my recent contributions for random material to use in their nonsense, and that pagename is exactly the one from that bunch that I CSD-tagged earlier and thus is in my CSD-log. (They also just welcomed a new user without contributions that I reported to UAA for a blatant username violation--not someone they'd have come across--copied my user page to their own for a bit (then messed around with it and blanked it. Earlier, they copied-then-pasted-then-blanked Bongwarrior's user page...shortly after Bongwarrior reverted their edit to my userpage)

Still, they're blatantly not here for constructive purposes. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 22:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I recently blocked another editor for a username violation that was editing with a very similar modus operandi to Pash Bash. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah. Part of a longer chain/well known case, or no/no clue? Looks like several of the puppeteers' sock-drawers opened up again over the past week or so, anyway. At least, been seeing a fair few blockevaders, IPsocks, ducks, attack usernames and similar come past. (Spread over several puppeteers, for the cases where I could figure out which string of discarded and blocked socks they belong to) Too much folks having too much time on hands due to Easter holidays, maybe? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Why was KAUU removed?

About KAUU, it does serve Central Utah but it moved to Farnsworth Peak now, making it not a Central Utah station anymore as there are no other Salt Lake City stations on that list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.205.62 (talk • contribs)

Ok, that makes sense. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

linkspam ref

Hello, what does "linkspam ref' mean in this edit you made? DGtal (talk) 21:51, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

One should generally avoid linking to the organization's own website as a source in a list. Sources should be independent. See WP:ELNO and the section below on the same page, as well as WP:LISTCOMPANY. IronGargoyle (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

So if the hebrew language article on the group (he:חב"ד למען ילדי צ'רנוביל) has independent sources (this is probably the best) I should pick one of them as a source? DGtal (talk) 08:35, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

As far as I can tell from a rough Google translate that reference would probably be adequate. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I found an English version of the page, so I hope now all is in order. Thanks for being diligent. DGtal (talk) 06:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC)