Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. (For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.) Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move: a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested move process is not mandatory, and sometimes, an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered users and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If a consensus is reached after this time, a mover will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or be as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
The Move review process can be used to contest a move. It is designed to evaluate a contested close of a move discussion to determine if the close was reasonable, or whether it was inconsistent with the spirit and intent of Wikipedia common practice, policies, or guidelines.
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When not to use this page[edit]
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space – (new/unconfirmed users only) add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves[edit]
Anyone can be bold and move a page without discussing it first and gaining an explicit consensus on the talk page. If you consider such a move to be controversial, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
Requesting technical moves[edit]
If you are unable to complete a technical move, request it below.
- To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code filling in pages and reason:
{{subst:RMassist| current page title | new page title | reason = reason for move}}
- This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
- If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Uncontroversial technical requests[edit]
Contested technical requests[edit]
Requests to revert undiscussed moves[edit]
- Ken Clarke → Kenneth Clarke (move · discuss) – Unreal7 boldly moved this article without discussion. --Nevé–selbert 17:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves[edit]
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. The move is potentially controversial if any of the following apply:
- There is an existing article (not just a redirect) at the target title;
- There has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- Someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. In particular, use this process before moving any existing page with incoming links to create a disambiguation page at that title. For technical move requests (e.g. spelling and capitalization fixes), see Requesting technical moves.
Do not put more than one open move request on the same article talk page, because this is not supported by the bot that handles updates to this page. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Requesting a single page move[edit]
To request a single page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:Requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please present Google Books or Google News Archive results before providing other web results. Do not sign this.}}
Replace NewName
with the requested new name of the page (or with a question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 04 February 2017" and sign for you.
Use the code |talk=yes
to add separate locations for survey and discussion.
Note: Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as RfC, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topic.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article Alerts to receive RM notifications, e.g. this page is transcluded to here. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or Noticeboard that might be interested in the move request.
Requesting multiple page moves[edit]
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected articles, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
{{subst:requested move
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please present Google Books or Google News Archive results before providing other web results. Do not sign this.}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
, and replace current2
with Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign a request with ~~~~
as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.
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{{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why}} |
Wikipedia:Requested moves → new – why Example (talk) 22:06, 04 February 2017 (UTC) |
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{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}} |
Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 22:06, 04 February 2017 (UTC) |
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{{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why|talk=yes}} |
Wikipedia:Requested moves → new – why Example (talk) 22:06, 04 February 2017 (UTC)
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{{subst:Requested move |new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}} |
– why Example (talk) 22:06, 04 February 2017 (UTC) |
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{{subst:Requested move |new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}} |
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Commenting in a requested move[edit]
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. It is a place for rational discussion of whether an article should be renamed.
There are a number of practices that most Wikipedians use in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they usually do so in bold text, e. g., Support or Oppose, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Start comments or recommendations on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *), and sign them by adding
~~~~
to the end. If you are responding to another editor, put your comment directly below theirs, making sure it is indented (using multiple *s). - Please disclose whether you have a vested interest in the article, per WP:AVOIDCOI.
- Please have a look at the article before making a recommendation. Do not base your recommendation solely on the information supplied by the nominator or other editors. To understand the situation, it may also help to look at the history of the article. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior Requested Moves. They may contain relevant arguments and further useful information.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Ideally editors should be familiar with WP:Article titles, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and WP:MOS (among others) which sets forth community norms for article titles.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations on the course of action to be taken that are not sustained by arguments.
- When making your case or responding to others, explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.
- Do not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one. The recommended way of doing this is to use strike-through by enclosing a retracted statement between <s> and </s> after the *, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Also, just a reminder that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but valid arguments will be given more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers arguments or evidence that do not explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy, they may only need a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion. But a pattern of groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider a dispute resolution process outside the current Requested Move process.
Closing instructions[edit]
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request.
Relisting[edit]
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing. Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting can be done using {{subst:relisting}}
, which also signs it automatically, and is placed at the very end of the initial request (after their signature, and subsequent re-listers signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as to notify relevant WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Applicable WikiProjects can often be determined by means of the banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request.
Current discussions[edit]
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
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Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
This list is also available in a page-link-first format.
February 4, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – Catherine Blake (disambiguation) → Katherine Blake – Since this dab page has no obvious WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, certainly not one which engenders more searches than all the other topics combined, the parenthetical qualifier "(disambiguation)" is unnecessary. In view of the fact that the dab page lists two Catherines, two Katherines and two Katharines, the choice of "Catherine" was arbitrary and resulted in the need for the qualifier. Ultimately, this page can just as easily be named Katherine Blake or Katharine Blake, both of which redirect to this page and do not require a qualifier, thus enabling us to discard "(disambiguation)". —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:16, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Funan (Southeast Asia) → Funan – per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. As a major former country in Southeast Asia, the Funan Kingdom has far more long-term significance than Funan County or Funan Mall. Google books results for Funan are mostly about the country. Zanhe (talk) 20:04, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Manticora (disambiguation) → Manticora – no absolute topic the beetle gets 22 views a day, the Danish band 11. Having the band at the baseline currently prevents the dab-bot from picking up miss-links. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ernesto Amantegui → Ernesto Phumipha – Amantegui is his middle name. No one call him as Ernesto Amantegui but Ernesto Phumipha. You can see also in his club website KungDekZa (talk) 18:06, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Glasgow to Edinburgh via Carstairs Line → Glasgow to Edinburgh via Carstairs line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use the symmetric dashed version (Glasgow–Edinburgh via Carstairs line) rather than "to" between place names. Dicklyon (talk) 16:56, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2016 United States election interference by Russia → Alleged 2016 United States election interference by Russia – The article title currently makes an affirmative statement which is based on official, U.S. government agencies made during a four-month period - which those same agencies appear to no longer be actively alleging - and which has been disputed by independent media and academics, and which seems to attract increasing criticism with the progress of time (as in this month's newly released Stanford study). Should the title of this article being changed to "Alleged 2016 United States election interference by Russia?" BlueSalix (talk) 16:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Soylent (food) → Soylent (beverage) – As discussed in the other recent RM discussion that was just closed, the current name is highly ambiguous with the food of the same name in the well-known book and film. The product is also a drink, not a solid food. (Although there was a solid bar sold under this brand name for a while, it was not the primary form of the product and it has also been discontinued. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:46, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Laguna (province) → Laguna, Philippines – As per WP:NCDAB which states natural disambiguation > comma disambiguation > parenthetical disambiguation. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 15:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nokia 3600/3650 → Nokia 3650 – The 3650 was announced first in September 2002 according to Forum Nokia, so I think it makes sense for the article to be named after the original model. Blake Gripling (talk) 08:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nubian pyramids → Nubian Pyramids – Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please present Google Books or Google News Archive results before providing other web results. Do not sign this. Oaomar (talk) 05:11, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chidiya (film) → Chidiya – This has got to be the primary, if not the only, encyclopedic topic of this name on Wikipedia: Chidiya presently redirects to house sparrow, although it's more of a general term for small birds in Hindi (and Wikipedia is not a dictionary). —innotata 04:13, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Copper extraction techniques → Copper extraction – The "techniques" at the end of the current name is unnecessary (see Gold extraction). Laurdecl talk 05:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 03:26, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mold indoor growth, assessment, and remediation → ? – I came across this article browsing recent changes. At first I was tempted to examine deletion, simply because the title reads like that of an instructional article. Of course, then I read the article and discovered it's a top-importance article for a WikiProject. But the issue of the title remains. It's certainly not WP:CONCISE, and to me it reads like the items pertaining to mold are: indoor growth, assessment and remediation. That is not what the article is about (as far as I can tell!). I think the best move would be to minimise commas and wordiness - so something like Assessment and remediation of indoor mold (still wordy) or Indoor mold growth treatment (which I think sufficiently encompasses the topic, but would need a subject expert to assist). Cheers. Triptothecottage (talk) 23:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 02:57, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William Douglas, of Cavers (died 1748) → William Douglas, 14th of Cavers – To follow the title pattern for his father's article: Archibald Douglas, 13th of Cavers. The death date is superfluous disambiguation; "14th of Cavers" is enough to distinguish him from all the other people named William Douglas. — Gorthian (talk) 01:12, 28 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 02:56, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Leamington to Stratford Line → Leamington to Stratford line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use the symmetric dashed version (Leamington–Stratford line) rather than "to" between place names. Dicklyon (talk) 01:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
February 3, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – BMG Rights Management → BMG – the current name is not the correct official company name Wikieditor234 (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Elections in the People's Republic of China → Elections in China – With the failed attempt to move pages, I propose this page to move with the corresponding Wikipedia article "China" 2607:FEA8:61F:F0AB:E5A9:7A49:1374:ED03 (talk) 23:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Monday Night Massacre → Dismissals of Sally Yates and Daniel Ragsdale – Describing this incident as the Monday Night Massacre is highly disputed (see sources cited in lead). Current title is neither NPOV nor used so often that we should accept a POV title NPalgan2 (talk) 21:43, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ovda Airport → Uvda Airport – Requesting renaming per WP:ON:
Article infobox picture shows that the airport is titled "Eilat Uvda Ariport" and the name in Hebrew transliterates as Nemal HaTe'ufa Uvda. This text was written in the previous move request, and is still relevant. I would go ahead and just move it, as Uvda is a fact (some pun intended). It's not open to debate - it's a fact that the name עובדה can't be translated to ovda. It's different sound and meaning - ovda doesn't really have a meaning, though it is one letter short for the hebrew word for "loss". Anyhow, Avshalom Kor asked the government to stop using the wrong "OVDA": https://www.facebook.com/avshalomkor/videos/1274818839273342/ So I would appreciate if no one opposed to moving it to Uvda Airport and changing all the wrong Ovda in the article itself. More than that, to me it seems like the mistake in the article was copied into real life, and wikipedia basically "made up" the facts. Somewhat Alarming IMO. --Benderbr (talk) 17:39, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Walsall to Wolverhampton Line → Walsall to Wolverhampton line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use the symmetric dashed version (Walsall–Wolverhampton line) rather than "to" between place names. Dicklyon (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fabius Maximus → Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus – Revisiting an old request. Nearly all secondary sources give his name at least as "Quintus Fabius Maximus", not merely "Fabius Maximus", and most classical reference sources include "Verrucosus" because there were many other important Romans named "Quintus Fabius Maximus". In fact, Wikipedia has a disambiguation page for them, listing twelve (more are known from inscriptions, including a few not named Quintus). Wikipedia presently has articles (or at least stubs) on eleven different persons named "Quintus Fabius Maximus", and most of them at one point were important generals and/or held the consulship, the highest office of the Roman Republic. There's no arguing that this isn't the most important one, but he's the only one not identified by his full name in the article title. Since most other sources list him by his full name (sans "Cunctator", which isn't universally applied, being more an epithet than a cognomen), doing so wouldn't unduly confuse people looking for this article. And of course, a high percentage of people reading this article will get here through links in other articles, in which case the exact title isn't even relevant for searching. The last time this suggestion was taken up, seven years ago, there were two in favour, two opposed. One of those opposed wrote that he would support "Quintus Fabius Maximus", just without the cognomen, which he felt was "way too long, way too clumsy". But we have articles titled: *Quintus Fabius Maximus Rullianus *Quintus Fabius Maximus Gurges (two of them) *Quintus Fabius Maximus Eburnus *Quintus Fabius Maximus Allobrogicus *Quintus Fabius Maximus Aemilianus *Quintus Fabius Maximus Servilianus And two articles titled "Quintus Fabius Maximus" without a cognomen, one of which has the date of his consulship for disambiguation, the other having no disambiguation in the title. Surely if a single article should be primary for "Quintus Fabius Maximus", it would be this one, Verrucosus, not the consul of 45 BC. The fact that one of the "minor" members of this family has that distinction in Wikipedia is hard to explain. The other vote in opposition asserted that "cognomina are merely hereditary nicknames". Which isn't strictly speaking true, any more than it would be to say that "Glover, Cooper, Fletcher, Baker" are hereditary nicknames. It's true that cognomina were acquired much as nicknames were, but they also distinguished branches of larger families, sometimes for many generations; "Maximus" is a cognomen, as are "Caesar" and "Scipio". Within those branches, additional cognomina could be used to distinguish individuals, which is why the Fabii Maximi had so many of them, including "Verrucosus". That was how the Romans identified which Fabius Maximus they intended, and it's how most secondary sources do it today. Verrucosus is the most famous because he played a pivotal role in the Second Punic War, but his ancestor Rullianus was nearly as important a century earlier, and several of the others were quite notable for their deeds. Plus, in categories it's quite odd to see a dozen Fabii Maximi under their full names, including one "Quintus Fabius Maximus" with no additional cognomen or disambiguation, but which isn't this one, and at the same time to have this one alone listed only as "Fabius Maximus", which you might expect to be the title of a disambiguation page, or an article about the family, rather than a single member of it. In short, moving the article to "Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus" would be consistent with how other articles about members of this family are titled; consistent with how he's named in most secondary sources; useful for internal reasons (such as sorting and categorization), and wouldn't make the article significantly harder for users to find. P Aculeius (talk) 15:03, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Knights Hospitaller → History of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta – To get things straight; straghten out the content mess a bit of this article and its relation to the article Sovereign Military Order of Malta, which contains chunks over overlapping content. Lots of reasons: the List of Princes and Grand Masters of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta already treat these two articles as if they would be renamed, as do other articles, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Sailor Moon Super S episodes → List of Sailor Moon SuperS episodes – This is the correct name and stylisation of the fourth series of the anime. It is not "Super S" and never was. Isn't the entire point of Wikipedia to give the correct information? 118.208.198.157 (talk) 13:40, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Girl develop it → Girl Develop It – This is the correct capitalization for this organization's name, per its own website and normal practice. At the time I helped save the page from A7 deletion by supplying some decent coverage in reliable sources, I hadn't seen that Girl Develop It had existed before and had been salted. I think that by now, it may be a viable article, so I'm soliciting consideration of this by others. Largoplazo (talk) 12:10, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Huma Qureshi (actress) → Huma Qureshi – The namesake journalist doesn't appear to be as widely popular and recognised as the actress; a Google search conducted by me revealed the entire first page of results dedicated to the actress only. So I think this borders on WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brendon Šantalab → Brendon Santalab – Per WP:COMMONNAME, overwhelmingly known in reliable sources as "Brendon Santalab". Google News search for "Brendon Santalab" (2,790 results) Google News search for "Brendon Šantalab" (four results) Hack (talk) 04:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC) Hack (talk) 04:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wu Zetian → Empress Wu – This is the name used in most English-language sources I've seen. See also Google Ngrams. There is of course the concern that "Empress Wu" is ambiguous (Empress Wu (disambiguation)), but do a GBook search of "Empress Wu" [1] and review the results one by one, I'd say over 95% of the usage is about Wu Zetian. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC applies, and if you multiply the top "Empress Wu" curve in the Ngram graph by 95%, it'd still be well above the bottom "Wu Zetian" curve (by at least 50%). Two other considerations: 1) "Wu Zetian" gives the impression that "Zetian" is a personal name (it's not). This is the same argument presented in previous discussions like Wikipedia_talk:History standards for China-related articles#Emperor article titles discouraging translations like Han Wudi. 2) In Chinese, the term "Wu Zetian" is a hodgepodge that never appeared in traditional historiography as far as I know. Traditional history books most often called her 武后 ("Empress Wu"). Timmyshin (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Harrogate to Church Fenton Line → Harrogate to Church Fenton line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use the symmetric dashed version (Harrogate–Church Fenton line) rather than "to" between place names. Dicklyon (talk) 00:37, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Red Cross with Triptych egg → ? – This page was moved from Red Cross with Triptych (Fabergé egg) to Red Cross with Triptych by MaybeMaybeMaybe in 2012. I subsequently moved it to Red Cross with Triptych egg, since the article was not about a triptych but about an egg and unaware that it had already existed once under Red Cross with Triptych (Fabergé egg). It appears that a large proportion of the Faberge egg articles exist with either the parenthetical Faberge egg at the end or simply the word "egg". I attempted to move this article back into Red Cross with Triptych (Fabergé egg) but was prevented from doing so by its edit history. There is no explanation as to why the article was moved away from this namespace in the first place, and no discussion anywhere about the move. I see no reason not to move it back (unless there really is a good reason somewhere). KDS4444 (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
February 2, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – Kenneth Young → Kenneth Young (physicist) – The searches for the physicist do not appear to exceed the combined total for all others bearing this name. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 22:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CIS/CCA Curling Championships → U Sports-Curling Canada Canadian University Curling Championships – Request at OTRS:2017012710016168 by U Sports - In 2016, CIS rebranded to U SPORTS. Ronhjones (Talk) 22:13, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ghosts 'n Goblins → Ghosts'n Goblins – I cannot let this stand. My original move was considered fine until someone randomly reverted it, seemingly ignoring the talk page and saying nothing about it here, and going by the same wrong information IGN and co. have had for years. The only way to fix this false information elsewhere is to fix it on Wikipedia! This is how Wikipedia has always worked. Capcom themselves write it as "Ghosts'n Goblins" (or "Ghouls'n Ghosts") in advertising, outside of the logo, with the exception of certain bizarre box permutations and a random mention on a fan-oriented blog. More importantly, Capcom uses this form for the most recent entries in the series. There is nothing vague about how the logo communicates itself to begin with; note the actual space between "'n" and "Goblins", this was always clearly on purpose. We are not talking about capitalization; this has nothing to do with "facebook", a site that clearly writes "Facebook" in print in all cases. Yes, we see that all caps is being used for trademark purposes, and we do the same thing we do with every other instance: turn them into normal caps. There's nothing controversial about this part. Despatche (talk) 20:02, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cardinal (Catholic Church) → Cardinal – WP:Primarytopic. Chicbyaccident (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George Washington Vanderbilt II → George Washington Vanderbilt III – I can see that there has been some contention on this point in this talk page, but as an employee of the Curatorial department at the Biltmore Estate created by George Vanderbilt, I can confirm that he was George Washington Vanderbilt III. The passage above regarding the name confusion that had been removed is indeed correct on all accounts. Here is a link to a Biltmore blog post about George, which confirms his suffix: http://www.biltmore.com/Blog/article/george-vanderbilt As the custodians of his Estate and the leading authorities on his life, I hope you will trust us on this one. Henrylauren10 (talk) 18:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Immigration policy of Donald Trump → Immigration policy of the Donald Trump administration – Donald Trump is now President, and thus it makes sense to move said articles to reflect the policies of the wider administration. --Nevé–selbert 16:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ferdinand de Boisschot, Baron of Saventhem → Ferdinand de Boisschot – This article was already at the pagename that best conforms to WP:COMMONNAME. It has been moved by Carolus twice in the last two hours to what he regards as a superior "official" name (showing the deference due to noble titles but contravening WP:OFFICIAL). TO conform to the policy on article titles, it should be moved back to the previous name. Doing so now requires an admin's intervention since the moves have rendered the original name a double redirect Andreas Philopater (talk) 15:50, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bristol to Exeter Line → Bristol to Exeter line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use the symmetric dashed version (Bristol–Exeter line) (or Bristol and Exeter line) rather than "to" between place names. Dicklyon (talk) 15:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Plus ultra (motto) → Plus ultra – Per WP:PTOPIC. This article has received the most page views out of all topics named "Plus Ultra", even if we discount the recent spike. The Spanish national motto is also the primary topic by long term significance, as a motto adopted from Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor. Other topics include an individual aircraft, an airline founded in 2011 with only two aircraft, and a military contingent lasting for less than a year. None of them have comparable significance. feminist 15:30, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Insurgency in the Maghreb (2002–present) → List of Insurgency Related Incidents in North and West Africa – This article continues to be grossly missnamed - using the Singular (Insurgency) to refer to a pot pourri of not particularly related incidents, and since approximately 2011 is more focused on the Sahel than on the Maghreb. This article is incoherent and also largely duplicates more accurate, focused articles (for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Mali_conflict) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_Civil_War and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Crisis_(2011%E2%80%93present) collounsbury (talk) 11:23, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trübsee → Trüebsee – official wording by swisstopo ZH8000 (talk) 19:24, 25 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 05:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Japanese actors → List of Japanese male actors – Because there is list of Japanese actresses, Japanese actresses are listed there. Title of this article is misleading. ツバル (talk) 05:08, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Exeter to Plymouth Line → Exeter to Plymouth line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use the symmetric dashed version (Exeter–Plymouth line) rather than "to" between place names, as in many other descriptive line names. Dicklyon (talk) 03:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
February 1, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – Steven Bernstein (cinematographer) → Steven Bernstein (filmmaker) – As a Director, Writer, and Cinematographer, Steven Bernstein would like to be referred to as a Filmmaker, therefore encompassing all of his individual titles Aimoola (talk) 23:40, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Church Movement → Catholic movements – This article is restricted to Catholicism. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cangjie → Cang Jie – Cang is a surname. Scriptions (talk) 21:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robert Walker (black footballer) → Robert Walker (footballer, born 1850s) – The first Walker should have a qualifier analogous to that of fellow black player, Andrew Watson (footballer, born 1856), as well as to qualifiers used for Robert Walker (footballer, born 1884), Robert Walker (footballer, born 1982) or Robert Walker (footballer, born 1987). The second Walker needs a qualifier more specific than "(English footballer)" since Robert Walker (footballer, born 1884) was also an English footballer. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:45, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Too Many Cooks (short) → Too Many Cooks (2014 film) – Two separate but related questions. First, is this a short film? Despite the fact that it aired on television I would say yes. The first sentence of the article just calls it a "short", but the word links to Short film. The article is also in Category:American short films. So if there's consensus here that it's not a short film, we should change both of those things. WP:NCFILM doesn't explicitly address short films, but as a matter of practice, length is not mentioned in in their titles. No other member of Category:American short films uses (film), and none use (short film). The second question is easy: is there a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC between this and the 1931 film? Definitely not. If we answer yes to the first question, the move of the 1931 film naturally follows. --BDD (talk) 20:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – St. John Ambulance → St John Ambulance – This is the style used by the organization on its logo and website. The name with a period should be a redirect, not the other way. Chemical Engineer (talk) 16:54, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Picton to Battersby Line → Picton to Battersby line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use symmetric dashed version (Picton–Battersby line) rather than "to" between place names. Dicklyon (talk) 16:25, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Savitar (comics) → Savitar – There is no other article with the same name. The solar deity who the DC character was named after is Savitr. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:25, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trent Valley Line → Trent Valley line – Decap Line per common lowercase in edited sources (news and books); this group are all around 70% or more lowercase in sources, nowhere near the "consistently capitalized in sources" criterion that we use to decide proper name status. Further, sources are do capitalize Valley in these about 80% of the time or more, so we leave that capitalized, indicating that the valley names are proper names. Dicklyon (talk) 16:20, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fitzgerald Auto Malls → Fitzgerald Auto Mall – The name of the company is Fitzgerald Auto Mall, not Fitzgerald Auto Malls. Rfs0808 (talk) 12:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jesu (disambiguation) → Jesu – Jesu is an old poetic/vocative form of Jesus! Justin Broadrick's band gets 132 daily hits, compared to 11,358 for Jesus. Impossible to know how many are mishits, but in Google Books "Jesu" refers largely to Jesus in hymns. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Redhill to Tonbridge Line → Redhill to Tonbridge line – Downcase per WP:NCCAPS; sources mostly do not cap it. Optionally, say if you prefer to use symmetric dashed version (Redhill–Tonbridge line) rather than "to" between place names. Dicklyon (talk) 05:00, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hà Nội T&T F.C. → Hà Nội FC – The club has changed its name since 2017. Wearehk (talk) 13:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 16:41, 22 January 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 03:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Garage punk → Garage punk (punk subgenre) – This punk fusion genre shares an AKA with Garage rock. To eliminate confusion, a WP:PARENDIS may be necessary. After move, Garage punk will redirect to Garage rock, which itself will contain a {{Redirect}} hatnote. Ilovetopaint (talk) 14:47, 23 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 03:03, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sandstorm (Darude composition) → Sandstorm (Darude song) – Even though the song is instrumental, I would not consider it a composition. There was a similar issue with Animals (Martin Garrix song) earlier which ended in it being "song" at the end. "Composition" is just not right especially when the song has become a success. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:D83D:EF7:C74C:30E9 (talk) 01:45, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James Fox → James Fox (actor) – User:JarrahTree has proposed that, given the large number of people names "James Fox" (or variations), it is unlikely that the actor is the primary topic of the term. I am neutral on the question, but perhaps the community has a sense of whether this is correct. Cheers! bd2412 T 00:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC) -->
- (Discuss) – KUSF (defunct) → KUSF.org – KUSF is still operating at the University of San Francisco by Miranda Morris and students of the University. The page should reflect that it is an online only station that is still using the same resources as when it did when KUSF had an FM signal. See usfca.edu/kusf for more information. --Kusforg (talk) 00:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gateway Multimodal Transportation Center → Gateway Transportation Center – I'm a frequent user of this station and I've never known it by the "Multimodal" moniker (maybe an old name?). The station website calls it the "Gateway Transportation Center". Mark Schierbecker (talk) 00:30, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lawsuits against the immigration policy of Donald Trump → Legal challenges to Executive Order 13769 – The current title is imprecise, and is both too broad and too narrow: * It is too broad in the sense that the challenges described are all to this executive order, not to "Trump's immigration policy" generally. * It is simultaneously too narrow, because not every legal challenge comes in the form of a lawsuit. For example, Sally Yates has challenged the legislation's constitutionality, but not through a lawsuit. Similarly, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights contends that the order implicates human rights law. Scholars also are likely to write articles either questioning or defending the legality of the executive order. These topics are "legal challenges" but are not lawsuits. The proposed title also has the advantage of being shorter and consistent with our precedent (see Legal challenges to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act). Neutralitytalk 00:02, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
January 31, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – Generation Snowflake → Snowflake (slang) – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it is simply common sense to call an article about a slang term by the name of the slang term, not by a particular usage of the slang term. That's why bugger has an article but bugger off and bugger all only have redirects. Calling the article "Generation Snowflake" instead of "Snowflake" is also inherently POV. "Generation Snowflake" is not the prime or even the usual use of the term "snowflake" in its pejorative sense, it's a meme that was pushed by Claire Fox and compliant British journalists in 2016, and is actually on the decline now. MaxBrowne (talk) 23:42, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Evie → Evie, Orkney – The village/parish is not the primary topic. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Harmandir Sahib → Golden Temple – Golden Temple is the common name of the Gurdwara, the name that is most frequently used to refer to it in English-language reliable sources.
A Google Books search on 31 January 2017 found six times as many hits for Golden Temple as for Harmandir Sahib. Apuldram (talk) 22:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Henley Branch Line → Henley branch line – Per WP:NCCAPS. Online book and news searches show 100% lowercase "branch line" (with the exception of one book that credits Wikipedia and presumably got the caps from here). Dicklyon (talk) 20:23, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Clinton family → Clinton–Rodham family – Article contains more than just Bill Clinton's family; it also includes wife Hillary (Rodham)'s relatives Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Inspector Gadget (franchise) → Inspector Gadget – The franchise appears to be the primary topic, and already encompasses all entries on the disambiguation page, except for Inspector Gadget (blogger). The franchise article should be moved over the top of the existing dab, with a hatnote pointing to the blogger. If there were other, unrelated meanings then they could be added to Inspector Gadget (disambiguation). Nick Number (talk) 19:52, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Meese → Meese (band) – I was very surprised to see Meese not redirect to Edwin Meese. This band is quite obscure (maybe even NN) and the short name should redirect
to the former US Attorney General.50.0.136.56 (talk) 19:30, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mad Dog Matis (disc jockey) → Mad Dog Matis – At the present time, Mad Dog Matis is a redirect to James Mattis. Between the article I'm requesting be moved (well, moved back to its previous title) and James Mattis, the surnames of the two subjects are spelled differently ("Matis" vs. "Mattis"). Is this enough to establish the current situation? Yes, the subject of James Mattis is rather notable at this time, but "Matis" is a misspelling of the subject's surname. Distinction via WP:SMALLDETAILS may apply here. Steel1943 (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament → NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament – The NCAA officially uses "'Division I Men's Basketball" and "Division I Women's Basketball" in its web pages for their tournaments. Furthermore, the logical order to describe these tournaments are "NCAA Division I", the league/division of the sport, followed by the sport's name, "men's [or women's] basketball", in describing what the tournament is. Other pages use "NCAA Division X Sport Tournament", like List of NCAA Division II Men's Basketball Championships, List of NCAA Division III Men's Basketball Championships, and NCAA Division II Women's Basketball Championship (which should probably be changed to "Tournament" per the June 2016 discussion on this page). Arbor to SJ (talk) 18:52, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- NCAA Women's Division I Basketball Championship → NCAA Division I Women's Basketball Tournament
- 2017 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament → 2017 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament
- 2016 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament → 2016 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament
- 2017 NCAA Women's Division I Basketball Tournament → 2017 NCAA Division I Women's Basketball Tournament
- (Discuss) – Bottlerocket Entertainment → BottleRocket Entertainment – Official styling used CamelCase. Dell9300 (talk) 18:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – High-definition → High definition – Prefer noun-form titles; hyphen only when used as adjective before a noun Dicklyon (talk) 17:46, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MX vs. ATV: Untamed → MX vs. ATV Untamed – Removing the colon to match the naming convention of the rest of the articles in the series. Dell9300 (talk) 17:41, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Turkish Language Association → Turkish Language Institute – Turkish Language Association(Turkish: Dil Derneği) is the name of another not-for-profit body which is non-governing. It is founded as an alternative for Turkish Language Institute after it is reconstituted as a government entity. 88.245.26.100 (talk) 17:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Girl Trip → Girls Trip – Title has changed to Girls Trip. Right now Girls Trip wiki is redirecting to Girl Trip incorrectly Fabianca (talk) 16:26, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ensure → Ensure (nutritional supplement) – or Ensure (meal replacement). This brand-name product seems obscure enough that Ensure, like Insure, should redirect to Insurance. See also the somewhat-related discussion at Talk:Soylent (food). —BarrelProof (talk) 15:31, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sbt (software) → sbt – Looks like the parenthetical disambiguation here is unnecessary. There are no other "sbt" topics in Wikipedia. Codename Lisa (talk) 07:30, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Carbonate clumped-isotope → Clumped isotopes – The current title is an adjectival phrase applied to "thermometer" or "thermometry". It cannot stand on its own, however. Clumped isotopes are only used in carbonates, but in the future will probably be applied to other compounds — it makes sense for the Wikipedia article to cover the general concept of what they are and how they form, and then have sections devoted to the paleoclimatological applications of carbonate clumped isotopes. (Of course, that would require a thorough restructuring of the article, but that will be necessary anyway when someone gets around to cleaning up the references, etc.) —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:11, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trent Kelly (politician) → Trent Kelly – Per WP:COMMONNAME, the U.S. congressman is more notable than an obscure cricketer from Australia. Trent Kelly should be moved to Trent Kelly (disambiguation). MB298 (talk) 05:22, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Plot → Template:Long plot – Or another similar title. In line with {{More plot}}. The current template name is ambiguous as it doesn't say what's wrong with the plot. nyuszika7h (talk) 10:39, 22 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 03:22, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Face of Love (film) → The Face of Love – Based on page view stats from 1st July 2015 to present[2] the film gets the vast majority of page views, pulling in a daily average of 212 views compared to just 8 for the album, and on no occasion during this period does the album receive more views than the film. Top Google hits[3] are all for the film. The film may be the more recent of the two, but it's clearly the more popular and most likely search term. PC78 (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 01:56, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Searchers (film) → The Searchers – Very surprised to see The Searchers is a disambiguation page. The question is why, when the classic film is a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Page views show it is by far the most viewed, nearly 3.5 times more than its closest competitor. 11,300 Google Books hits shows long-term significance above the others as well [4] [5] Ribbet32 (talk) 00:44, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
January 30, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – George Washington's Farewell Address → George Washington's farewell address – Per WP:NCCAPS and consistency with Barack Obama's farewell address. --Nevé–selbert 22:27, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jang Wooyoung → Jang Woo-young – to comply with guidelines on Korean names 201.43.103.19 (talk) 16:45, 19 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:03, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jordan Baker (footballer) → Jordan Baker (soccer) – per WP:NCSP, "If the person is American, Canadian, or Australian, use (soccer)." She is Australian; it should be Jordan Baker (soccer) Joeykai (talk) 20:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – St. Joseph's Cathedral, Asmara → Asmara cathedral – The church is dedicated not to St Joseph but to Our Lady of the Rosary. It is not now (and never was in the strict sense) a cathedral but, since it is still commonly called the cathedral, I can think of no more suitable title for the article Athbheo (talk) 10:47, 23 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – French overseas departments and territories → Overseas France – per WP:COMMONNAME, and per the WP:CRITERIA of recognizability, naturalness, precision and conciseness. Extended rationale below. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:58, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Give It 2 Me (Madonna song) → Give It 2 Me – Unnecessary disambiguation. TheKaphox T 17:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Manvel Gasratian → Manvel Gasratjan – As he was an academic with scholarly publications before 1995, to the limited extent his name appears in romanized form in the literature it follows the earlier transliteration of "Я" as "ja" as expressed in the first three columns of Romanization_of_Russian#Transliteration_table. Examples: Google Scholar and Google Books. This request is supported by WP:COMMONNAME. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 17:41, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Keep It Together (Madonna song) → Keep It Together (song) – Per WP:SONGDAB: "disambiguation is only required when multiple songs or albums of the same name have articles" TheKaphox T 17:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Halve Maen → Half Moon (ship) – Total consensus to move to WP:ENGLISH name and "Half Moon" is 10 to 1 the common name here by reference (see Talk:Halve Maen). Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pavitr Kachasanee → Pavitr Gajaseni – Correct spelling.[6][7][8][9][10]. The only source to use "Kachasanee" is sports-reference.com[11], which actually also lists Gajaseni.[12] Previously presumed to be non-controversial, but disputed by User:Lugnuts. Paul_012 (talk) 15:31, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sail-plan → Sail plan – MOS:HYPHEN has three criteria for using a hyphen: #In hyphenated personal names: John Lennard-Jones. #To link prefixes with their main terms in certain constructions (quasi-scientific, pseudo-Apollodorus, ultra-nationalistic). #To link related terms in compound modifiers. This use of a hyphen in the title of the article does not correspond to the MOS. It does hark back to when the use of hyphens in nautical terms was more common than today. User:HopsonRoad 14:32, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Turnspit Dog → Turnspit dog – None of the modern English sources used as references in this article that I've checked, nor a sampling of other reliable sources, shows any that treat "Turnspit Dog" as a two-word proper noun - "dog" is invariably not capitalised in running text. Wikipedia:Article titles#Article title format states that "Titles are written in sentence case. The initial letter of a title is almost always capitalized by default; otherwise, words are not capitalized unless they would be so in running text." so I propose that this be renamed accordingly. Whether "Turnspit" on its own is a proper or common noun differs between sources, but as the first letter of Wikipedia article titles are capitalised in almost all cases this is not relevant to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 13:51, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gamlingay Cinques Common → Gamlingay Cinques – This article is about Gamlingay Cinques nature reserve, which is managed by the Wildlife Trust for Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire and Northamptonshire. The Wildlife Trust page on the site at [13] shows it as Gamlingay Cinques, which currently redirects on Wikipedia to the village of Gamlingay. There is another article on the site at Gamlingay Meadows, but I assume that I will have to ask separately for this to be deleted. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:29, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Centro Ybor station → Centro Ybor station – The station itself has been renamed; see the official station list. grendel|khan 08:17, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Incite → Incite (band) – No primary topic now that the disambiguation page has been created. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 05:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Barrow, Alaska → Utqiaġvik, Alaska – Official name change discussed previously here and here above. — AjaxSmack 03:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sette note in nero → The Psychic – per WP:UE and WP:NCF#Foreign-language films. As confirmed by the poster appended to the article, this Italian feature was marketed, distributed and reviewed in the English-speaking world under the title The Psychic. Although the 2013 exchange ["Italian titles vs English titles"], above, postulates that the main title header should display the Italian title because there are multiple English-language titles, a search of film listings in newspapers across the English-speaking world, only finds "The Psychic" as a title which was released for public exhibition and on DVD. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 03:07, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Smile of a Child TV → Smile TV – Smile of a Child TV became Smile TV on January 1, 2017. And the website http://www.smileofachildtv.org now has the new "Smile TV" logo on the top left hand corner. AdamDeanHall (talk) 19:08, 22 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 03:06, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Valentina Semerenko → Valentyna Semerenko – She is Valentyna (UKR language), not Valentina (RUS language). [14] [15] [16] 178.94.167.93 (talk) 01:40, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
January 29, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – Van Buren → Van Buren (disambiguation) – President Martin Van Buren is WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT Prisencolin (talk) 23:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ABS-CBN (television network) → ABS-CBN – The television network is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "ABS-CBN." RioHondo (talk) 22:59, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Types of fiction with multiple endings → Multiple endings – The article is about "multiple endings", as even stated at the article's lead section. There is no essay about different "types", the article is simply divided in section about different arts 5.170.9.211 (talk) 22:57, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Del → Del (operator) – The operator is not the primary topic for "Del". RedPanda25 22:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic → Estonia under Soviet rule – If we might go with the shorter forms of the Baltic SSRs per WP:COMMONNAME, even they were used by the Western media, those articles should be renamed just like how Korea under Japanese rule and Taiwan under Japanese rule did. Likewise, those were never Soviet republics by the United States and other western powers because they were illegally annexed by the Soviet Union in 1940. 2607:FEA8:61F:F0AB:FCD4:BB2F:46A:D495 (talk) 18:06, 29 January 2017 (UTC) 2607:FEA8:61F:F0AB:FCD4:BB2F:46A:D495 (talk) 18:07, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – David Sun (businessman) → David Sun – per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. He's the co-founder of the major technology company Kingston Technology, ranked by Forbes as the 90th richest American with a net worth of $5.9 billion [17]. Far better known than the Hong Kong auditor. Zanhe (talk) 04:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 17:04, 29 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 18:01, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NUS No Platform Policy → No Platform – This is certainly the simpler, more common, and more readily recognizable name. In the past, editors have also suggested this page be expanded to a general article on "No platforming" or "Deplatforming". Wolfdog (talk) 16:13, 22 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 16:33, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alcaeus of Mytilene → Alcaeus – The archaic lyric poet Alcaeus is the clear primary topic for Alcaeus. It gets more pageviews than the rest of the articles linked from the dab page put together (as per the page-view tool, linked below). Among classical scholars, the lyric poet is referred to as "Alcaeus", without disambiguation (e.g. in E. M. Voigt's Sappho and Alcaeus, and D. A. Campbell's Greek Lyric I: Sappho and Alcaeus), while Alcaeus of Messene is usually referred to as such (e.g. [18], [19]), and finding articles or books primarily about any of the other Alcaeuses is difficult enough that I can't even establish how they are usually referred to. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 11:09, 22 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 15:46, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haeundae Station (Busan Metro) → Haeundae Station – The article Haeundae Station is a disambiguation page now, because there had been two different stations named Haeundae Station in Busan. One was Haeundae Station (Korail), and the other was Haeundae Station (Busan Metro). However, 30 December 2016, Haeundae Station (Korail) was renamed into Sinhaeundae Station, so there's no need to keep Haeundae Station article as a disambiguation page. --오모군 (talk) 14:01, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suyeong Station (Busan Metro) → Suyeong Station – The article Suyeong Station is a disambiguation page now, because there had been two different stations named Suyeong Station in Busan. One was Suyeong Station (Korail), and the other was Suyeong Station (Busan Metro). However, 30 December 2016, Suyeong Station (Korail) was renamed into Centum Station, so there's no need to keep Suyeong Station article as a disambiguation page. --오모군 (talk) 14:00, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LR-87 → LR87 – US military engine designation did NOT use hyphens Petebutt (talk) 12:08, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Romsdal Fjord → Romsdalsfjord – Unwarranted move to less common name without discussion — Erik Jr. 11:50, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jabhat Fateh al-Sham → Al-Nusra Front – Hi The group have been disbanded in 2017 but the commons name of the group was Al-Nusra Front between four years (2012-2016) and the group was known as JFA during 6 months. Panam2014 (talk) 11:37, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ashrama (stage) → Ashrama – AFAICS, this is the only article called Ashrama. For those called Ashram, there's a dab available. The Evil IP address (talk) 11:13, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Just Ask My Children (2001) → Just Ask My Children – no need for year Jim Michael (talk) 01:47, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment → Wikipedia:WikiProject assessments – (Or alike.) It's actually WikiProject assessments, so it's a redundant separate category. Furthermore it's not just "1.0" but simply not related to any version of Wikipedia. Note: in addition I also proposed a merge of the Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments. Fixuture (talk) 01:47, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
January 28, 2017[edit]
- (Discuss) – Lipiodol → ethiodized_oil – should be listed under the generic name with the brand name Lipiodol redirecting there (see https://www.drugs.com/pro/lipiodol.html for generic name) Fantumphool (talk) 04:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 19:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Dane talk 22:14, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Range voting → Score voting – Agree Electology and rangevoting.org both seem to prefer "score" over "range", and it sounds less like "ranked" 71.167.65.224 (talk) 00:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Dane talk 22:13, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Elapsed listings[edit]
- (Discuss) – Colony Wars (video game) → Colony Wars – Per WP:NCVGDAB: "The series page should reside at the primary name if the series possesses a minimum of 3 video game articles as well as at least one other unrelated video game or related media item. Otherwise, the first game in the series should occupy the primary name, and the series article should be disambiguated with "... (series)". There are only the three video games in the series and no other media articles, so the the first game should be the primary term. Mika1h (talk) 18:11, 21 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 20:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MTV Italy → MTV (Italy) – The network is named MTV and not MTV Italy: http://mavise.obs.coe.int/channel?id=1727 (talk) 17:31, 20 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 20:19, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Compact ToC → Template:Compact alphabetic ToC – Current name is too generic. Pppery 19:08, 21 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 20:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shiretu Juu → Xilitu Zhao – It would be better to use the Chinese name, to be coherent with the 2 other Tibetan Buddhist temples in Hohhot (Da Zhao Temple and Wusutu Zhao Monastery). Xilitu Zhao is also the name used in all the online or written tourist guides for English speaking readers. Hva Shang (talk) 09:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 17:31, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rooster (zodiac) → Chicken (zodiac) – the Chinese word is gender neutral. Rdzhang (talk) 17:13, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Summertime (song) → Summertime (George Gershwin song) – Per the amount of other articles at Summertime#Songs - this page should redirect to Summertime. TheKaphox T 12:30, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pretty Hurts (song) → Pretty Hurts – I believe that the song should be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. As shown by the pageview analysis, the Pretty Hurts (song) article receives an average of 3,813 pageviews. This is compared to the TV series' 141 pageviews. When using a Google search URL that eliminates personal bias, the results are also overwhelmingly dominated by the Beyoncé song. The TV series has also existed only two years longer than the song, which means that there isn't much long-term significance to speak of. TheKaphox T 12:07, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hold Up (Beyoncé song) → Hold Up (song) – Only notable song with title "Hold Up" - unnecessary extra disambiguation. TheKaphox T 11:54, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Andrés Bonifacio Monument → Bonifacio Monument – The Philippine monument is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term "Bonifacio Monument." The smaller monument in Bonifacio, Corse-du-Sud is more commonly referred to as the Monument of the Foreign Legion or Monument de la Légion Étrangère. RioHondo (talk) 02:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:37, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ethnic groups in Europe → Indigenous peoples of Europe – Harmonization. The article title is an odd outlier. It is the only one on indigenous people per continent which does not address these peoples as such. Therefore it needs to be brought in line with that of the others in the Category:Indigenous peoples by region: *Indigenous peoples of Africa *Indigenous peoples of the Americas *Indigenous peoples in South America *Indigenous peoples of Oceania Note that all these overview articles are either directly or indirectly categorized under Category:Ethnic groups by continent, just as this one, so there is no reason for making an exception for Europe. Actually, when you look at it, the whole Category:Indigenous peoples of Europe is inexplicably skewed in that it is topically narrowed down on a small subset of 'exotic' minorities, while leaving out the much larger peoples of the Poles, Swedes, Germans, Italians etc., whereas in the case of the other continents even the largest indigenous peoples are included. I am not aware of any credible, non-political anthropological research which denies the term indigenous to the ethnic peoples of Europe of all alone, creating an accepted scholarly set of double standards. Finally, while it is true that a small subsection of this article refers to non-indigenous groups, these complements have not kept the other continental articles from being titled as they are (e.g. Africa). Kind regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TNA King of the Mountain Championship → TNA Television Championship – This name is most-known name, from 2010 to 2014 it was "TNA Television Championship". Bigggshh (talk) 18:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 20:08, 16 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:33, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tropical Storm Odette (2003) → Tropical Storm Odette – Only one Atlantic storm named Odette. Tropical Cyclone Odette (2007) is a redirect, and this name is not an official name in NW Pacific Ocean. The official name is Typhoon Usagi (2013). A disambig link can be put at the top of the article. 219.79.226.134 (talk) 15:55, 16 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:32, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Peter IV of Bulgaria → Peter II of Bulgaria – Per above. And it seems the other Peters were rebel leaders. --The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 06:12, 16 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:31, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dynamic braking (locomotive) → Dynamic braking – This article used to be at dynamic braking until it was moved to its present title to make way for a general article on the topic. (See also the two move requests above.) However, "dynamic braking" now only exists as a redirect to this article since G-13114 (talk · contribs) redirected it here, commenting that this article "is nearly identical and has more detail." Compare the revision before redirect with this article. The initial revision of "dynamic braking", started by Jojalozzo (talk · contribs), appears to have been based on a version of this article, but with most locomotive-specific text removed, which explains the similarity. Options are to restore dynamic braking as an article, or delete it and move this page back to that title. 15.211.201.85 (talk) 23:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chelsea Green (wrestler) → Laurel Van Ness – Laurel Van Ness is the more recognizable name she uses on TV. More people will know her by this name than her real one. Hellboy42 (talk) 04:23, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Boyband PH → BoybandPH – WP:COMMONNAME 12 ~Manila's PogingJuan 10:25, 19 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Dane talk 22:33, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cameron Hall (basketball) → Cameron Hall (basketball player) – Causes confusion with Cameron Hall (Virginia), which is most well-known as a basketball arena. Someone could reasonably assume by the basketball part that this is about the arena. Smartyllama (talk) 17:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Dane talk 22:26, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bihar topper scam 2016 → Topper scam – per WP:CONCISE, disambiguation is not required. Topper scam currently redirects here Pratyush (talk) 20:11, 19 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Dane talk 22:22, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Backlog[edit]
- (Discuss) – Red Giant Software → Red Giant – changed our name officially to remove software Leo at Red Giant (talk) 17:46, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Randolph Elwood Streeter → R. E. Streeter – Move done without discussion. Sources show most common usage is R. E. Streeter GreenC 17:24, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Music OCR → Optical music recognition – Optical music recognition is a much more commonly used name. Compare Google Scholar results for Music OCR (49 results) instead of Optical music recognition (1190 results). Dringw (talk) 15:21, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mount Erciyes → Erciyes Dağı – native Turkish name Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:35, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Same as It Ever Was → Same as It Ever Was (House of Pain album) – For disambiguation. This phrase seems much more well known as a line of the Talking Heads song, "Once in a Lifetime". For example, that is what mostly pops up in a web search for the phrase. It was also used as the title of a Talking Heads album. It may have also inspired the titles of the various topics called Same as It Never Was. For other uses, see the new Same as It Ever Was (disambiguation) page. —BarrelProof (talk) 10:15, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – April 6–8, 2006 tornado outbreak → April 6–8, 2006, tornado outbreak – For consistency and as per MOS:DATEFORMAT, "A comma follows the year unless followed by other punctuation: The weather on March 12, 2005, was clear and warm", and MOS:COMMA, "Dates in month–day–year format require a comma after the day, as well as after the year, unless followed by other punctuation. In both cases, the last element is treated as parenthetical. Incorrect: He set October 1, 2011 as the deadline for Chattanooga, Oklahoma to meet his demands. Correct: He set October 1, 2011, as the deadline for Chattanooga, Oklahoma, to meet his demands." See recent discussion at Talk:January 21–23, 2017, tornado outbreak and older discussion at Talk:April 14–16, 2011, tornado outbreak (with follow-up discussion at User:BD2412/Archive 012#Commas for tornados). —BarrelProof (talk) 08:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak → May 18–21, 2013, tornado outbreak
- June 18–22, 2011 tornado outbreak → June 18–22, 2011, tornado outbreak
- April 10–11, 2001 tornado outbreak → April 10–11, 2001, tornado outbreak
- January 2, 2006 tornado outbreak → January 2, 2006, tornado outbreak
- June 5–6, 2010 tornado outbreak → June 5–6, 2010, tornado outbreak
- June 18, 2001 tornado outbreak → June 18, 2001, tornado outbreak
- November 27–30, 2016 tornado outbreak → November 27–30, 2016, tornado outbreak
- June 16–18, 2014 tornado outbreak → June 16–18, 2014, tornado outbreak
- April 4–5, 2011 derecho, and tornado outbreak → April 4–5, 2011, derecho, and tornado outbreak
- November 17, 2013 tornado outbreak → November 17, 2013, tornado outbreak
- (Discuss) – New Haven–Springfield Line → New Haven–Springfield line – Per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS, no need to capitalize Line here. Dicklyon (talk) 16:16, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Constantinople Observatory of Taqi ad-Din → Istanbul Observatory of Taqi ad-Din – Please move page back to its original article title. The recent move was made without any prior discussion on the Talk page or attempt to seek consensus first. A simple Google search for "Constantinople Observatory of" and "Istanbul Observatory of" indicates that the latter is far more common (55 versus 3420 hits). AstroLynx (talk) 10:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Park Chanyeol → Park Chan-yeol – Korean name convention always has a dash XPG 03:02, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William Waldorf Astor, 1st Viscount Astor → William Waldorf Astor – Subject is typically just referred to as "William Waldorf Astor" Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:07, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Murudeshwara → Murdeshwar – The person who first created this page did so with wrong spelling. Please see my explanation in the section above. 71.218.204.92 (talk) 08:45, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Menteşe (beylik) → Menteshe – In English literature, the beylik has commonly been transcribed as "Menteshe", which, incidentally, was also the original name of this article. Searches in literature produce the following: * "Mentese" alone gives thousands of hits, but the vast majority are irrelevant, since this is also a verb in Spanish * "Menteşe" in GBooks gives a bit less than 200 hits, including references to the modern placenames, and quite a few irrelevant hits (Postfeminist Discourse in Shakespeare’s The Tempest, The Celestial Key to the Vedas, etc.) * "Mentese beylik" in GBooks gives 101 hits, with a few obviously irrelevant ones into the mix, and a few Turkish-language ones as well. Most of the hits are to books without preview, so what exactly they match is unclear * "Mentese Turkish" in GBooks gives about 200 hits, with largely the same restrictions as the above (many Turkish-language publications, "Mentese" as a surname, e.g. Halil Mentese, etc.) * "Menteshe" in GBooks, gives about 280 hits, including the usual false and irrelevant hits. * "Menteşe beylik" in GScholar gives a lot of hits, but they are almost all in Turkish; restricting hits to English, there are 73 results, which again * "Menteshe" in GScholar gives 216 hits, many of whom are due to the book of E. Zachariadou, but which nevertheless refer to the principality. In conclusion, usage does not seem to be overwhelming either way, and both forms are used in English both by Turkish and non-Turkish scholars (you can spot the great Halil Inalcik using both forms, for instance). However, "Menteshe" does seem to have the advantage that it is relatively unambiguous, being used in English almost exclusively for the principality and rather infrequently for the modern town. Using it would avoid any confusion with the modern localities and obviate the need for disambiguation. WP:DIACRITICS allows us to use both forms, but IMO, for the general readership, the less modified letters we use, the better. It should also be noted that "Menteshe" is used by reference works like the Encyclopaedia of Islam (1st Ed.) and (2nd Ed.). Constantine ✍ 16:30, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
References[edit]
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in the talk page section with the requested move to show references there.See also[edit]
- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed discussions
- Category:Wikipedia title cleanup
- Category:Wikipedia title cleanup (sorted by template)