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February 1[edit]

East Meadow, New York article[edit]

The article on East Meadow, New York has gone under several disruptive edits in the past (such as the adding of unnotable persons and picture changes) Currently, instead of showing the location of the town in New York, it shows a map of the state of Washington. How does one change the map back?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winnsley (talkcontribs) 00:30, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi User:Winnsley, I've reverted the recent vandalism. Thanks for pointing that out! – Juliancolton | Talk 00:34, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi Winnsley. First thing, please try to remember to sign your talk page posts as explained in WP:TILDE. Signing your posts will making much easier for other editors to see who is posted and when they posted.
Now regarding your question, the image has already been replaced so this is really just for your future reference in case it happens again. Go to the article's page and click on "View history" and try and find the edit which changed the map. This may be a little tricky if there is no edit sum and you may have to look at a couple of edits until you find it. When you do find the edit, click on "undo" to open the edit window. Scroll down to the bottom of the window and add an edit summary explaining why the change was made. An edit summary is very important and not adding one might me your edit will be reverted as an unexplained change. Something simple such as "Changing back to correct map" should be fine. After adding an edit summary, click "Show preview" to verify that the changes made are the ones you wanted to make. If everything is OK, scroll back down to the bottom of the page and click "Save changes". If you make a mistake, don't worry about it. You can try and fix it yourself or ask for help on the article's talk page.
Finally, before you "undo" the other persons edit, try and make sure that you're only changing the map back and not undoing any other "improvements" the editor may have made to the article. Many editors often make lots of little changes as part of a single edit, and clicking "undo" will undo them all. Also, sometimes intermediate edits are made to the relevant content and the software will not let you undo the edit. In such cases, you may have to go in a simply manually replace the image yourself. You do that by clicking on "Edit", finding the file for the incorrect map, removing it, and then re-adding the file for the correct map. As before, click "Show preview" to check you edit and "Save changes" to save your edit. You can find out a little more on how to do this at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:58, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
In this particular case there was some good luck, in that the vandalistic changes occurred only a bit more than an hour before the OP reported it. A revert would have fixed it, although I'm guessing the OP couldn't do that, not being autoconfirmed yet. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Is this OK?[edit]

Is this OK?[1] (look at the before and after). before I make an issue of it I want to ask, is this allowed? I thought that formatting the page title like this [2] was weird but OK, but hiding the user name entirely? --Guy Macon (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Does that fall afoul of WP:SMI- CSS and other formatting codes that disrupt the Wikimedia interface, for example by preventing important links or controls from being easily seen or used, making text on the page hard to read or unreadable (other than by way of commenting out), or replacing the expected interface with a disruptive simulation, may be removed or remedied by any user...? Or some similar UPG. O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 06:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I am going to try WP:BRD[3][4] and see whether I get an R. (If I do I will try D). --Guy Macon (talk) 07:32, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
You could have at least alerted me to this discussion. feminist 08:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
You see, the problem is that sometimes you simply don't know whether something is or is not disruptive. I am on the fence about this case, and wanted some advice before confronting you. That is also why I picked the least confrontational action I could think of (a bold edit, with an expected revert then discussion should you disagree) rather than potentially angering you with something like an ANI report. I reserve the right to seek council as to whether I am on the right path before alerting you and getting into a fight where I might very well be wrong. If you disagree, revert me and I will open up a discussion on your talk page. --Guy Macon (talk) 10:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah. I see that you reverted me with the edit comment "what a joke".[5] The revert is fine with me (WP:BRD). I will attempt to discuss this with you on your talk page (it may take a day or so to get to it). --Guy Macon (talk) 11:01, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
It appears that User:Feminist decided against doing this and went back to a normal title. BTW, I don't think anyone would have had a problem with leaving the title all-lowercase; that's a minor bit of originality that doesn't violate any policy. --Guy Macon (talk) 11:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Reference check[edit]

I want to known the page number and quotation from the book for Vestigial_response#Goose_bumps. How would I request that and who to approach? --IEditEncyclopedia (talk) 07:09, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

  • In such cases, you are usually out of luck. The best shot is to view the page history, find who added the reference, and contact them directly. When page history is long, you this tool is your friend but here, it is short enough to review manually. In that case, this edit by Joshua Issac added the link; let's see if they can help.
Another option is to go ask at the appropriate reference desk, if you want more general information about a specific claim. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:42, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
You could try asking at WP:WRE - X201 (talk) 12:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I copied the reference from Goose bumps, to where it was added by JSquish. I assume that the relevant part in the book is from page 101 to page 103. --Joshua Issac (talk) 13:13, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Articles created by cut and paste content from non copyright sources[edit]

I have been around for a while but am really unsure how to handle this issue. A new editor, Susan Schneegans is creating articles which are solely, or mostly, cut and paste creations from copyright free UNESCO publications such as at Challenges for innovation in Malaysia. COPYVIO doesn't seem to apply since attribution is given, but it feels totally wrong; but I can't find the policy or guidance that constrains such action. I would welcome advice and suggestions. Thanks  Velella  Velella Talk   11:14, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

  • If the copyright is indeed compatible with Wikipedia's licensing requirements (note that some "free" licenses, e.g. CC-BY-NC, are not compatible), there is no policy or legal reason against copy-pasting en masse. However, the copied content may not be appropriate for inclusion - for instance, the link you gave seems to me to violate WP:NOTESSAY. And of course, repeated inclusion of such content disregarding any warnings would be construed as disruptive. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:49, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
  • We have a lot of articles copied and pasted from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with the {{1911}} tag added to them. Perhaps there should be a similar tag for these UNESCO publications. --Joshua Issac (talk) 13:49, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
  • This type of copying is allowed provided it is attributed (as is being done in this case). See Wikipedia:Plagiarism. However I personally think there should be text added to the body of the article saying something like "What follows has been extracted from a 2015 UNESCO report". Thincat (talk) 14:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi all, I'm Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and working with Susan Schneegans, who is a subject matter expert and wrote some of the publication that is being used, she has kindly agreed to work with me to share information from the report on Wikipedia. I also developed the template to make simple to add openly licensed text to Wikipedia which creates a credit for the report (see the Sources section). I wrote these instructions to make this process easier. My main motivation was to make it easier for experts to contribute to Wikipedia, either directly as Susan is doing, or indirectly through other editors adding text from sources written by experts. As Joshua Issac has said this is not a new approach to creating Wikipedia articles, we are simply expanding use of the technique. Please let me know if you have any suggestions on making this tool easier to use. Thanks--John Cummings (talk) 20:24, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Note: the UNESCO Science Report is available under the CC-BY-SA license, as stated on page 4 of the report, text from it is not a copyright violation. --John Cummings (talk) 09:25, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
  • For the record, I am an experienced editor who can confirm that John's claim that copy/pasted text from sources free from copyright is perfectly fine for use on Wikipedia, as long as the source is properly attributed. I do this all the time for paintings which were well described in text before photography became cheap and easy to reproduce in art catalogs. See this Pieter de Hooch painting article as an example: Teaching a Child to Walk. Jane (talk) 07:54, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Endorsing John's and others' rebuttals. Furthermore, look at how many articles we have which are copies of, or include material copied from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:24, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Summaries at the top of the page when viewing on mobile[edit]

Certain pages like Mithila, India and Mithila (region) have inccorect summaries at the top when viewing from a mobile or tablet. These don't appear when viewing the desktop version of the site. Is it possible to remove these since they are incorrect and unsourced? Thanks. Damien2016 (talk) 12:32, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

@Damien2016: They are on Wikidata, and can be edited by clicking the "Wikidata item" link in the sidebar and changing the description. Pppery 12:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the help!Damien2016 (talk) 12:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

VBV[edit]

wHAT IS WIKIPEDDIA> ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.128.160.41 (talk) 13:39, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Introduction. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:42, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Wikipeddia is apparently a level6 summoner in the game Lolking. See [6]]. -Arch dude (talk) 22:26, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Seriously? Go back to WP:RD/E, you freak. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:07, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Verify my own page[edit]

How do i easily verify my own wikipedia information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.207.65.36 (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

What do you mean "verify"? On Wikipedia, we take verifiability to mean: can I find reliable sources that say the same thing that this Wikipedia article does. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 16:44, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not Facebook or Instagram. Accounts or pages can't get a 'verified' status. Lyrda (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
If you mean Jed Armstrong then you need to establish the WP:Notability of the subject of that article by finding WP:Reliable sources that discuss this person in detail. If you are not able to do so, then the page will be deleted. In general, Wikipedia strongly discourages people from writing their own WP:Autobiographies here. Dbfirs 00:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
I notice that entering "Jed Armstrong musician" in A Well known Search Engine throws up a few relevant sources, but probably not enough to verify much of the article's content. Archives of music journals (such as Melody Maker, New Musical Express and doubtless many others) may contain useful contemporary references – I wonder if the Musicians' Union (UK) (of which the OP is doubtless a member) could advise where such archives may be electronically or physically accessed. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.12.94.189 (talk) 02:30, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
The article has now been deleted. Dbfirs 09:47, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Dabpage Never Gonna Dance Again[edit]

Recently, the page Never Gonna Dance Again (Sugababes song) was merged to Change (Sugababes album) per consensus at Talk:Never Gonna Dance Again (Sugababes song). Meanwhile, Never Gonna Dance Again (song) was redirected to Careless Whisper. I was going to convert the dabpage to a redirect to the George Michael song. However, I read Talk:Never Gonna Dance Again and realized that the dabpage was the result of RFD, where I participated (I long forgot it). Shall I be bold and change the page anyway, or shall I do the AFD? --George Ho (talk) 18:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Out of Copyright Encyclopedia usage and templates? (Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities 1920 edition)[edit]

I'd like to use the 1920 Edition of Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities in the same manner that the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition and the 1905 Jewish Encyclopedia both of which have Category:Encyclopedia source templates. The 1920 Edition is available in Google Books (https://books.google.com/books?id=1qoVAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover) but not at Wikisource. The 1879 (first) Edition is at Wikisource, so I'm not sure there would be any problem putting it there other than the work of copying the 1920 version from google books to wikisource. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where to get more specific information as to whether this is appropriate and whether copying to Wikisource is needed before going forward. I've worked with paraphrasing out of a number of editions both prior to 1923 and after (I own copies of 5 editions).Naraht (talk) 21:01, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Whether or not to put it in Wikisource is a Wikisource question, not a Wikipedia question, but I will be so bold as to answer here: Yes, it is appropriate. Whether to do it first: Yes, better to do it first, because you will then have a proper Wikisource target for your Wikipedia template. Paraphrasing is not needed and is often not even appropriate for out-of-copyright works: you should probably just directly quote the work, with attribution:See WP:Plagiarism. At Wikisource, you may (or may not) find the DNB project to be a more complete example than the 1911 project. -Arch dude (talk) 22:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Page move oddity[edit]

I moved Cypress (provincial electoral district) to Cypress (former Alberta provincial electoral district) (because there are two others). I adjusted the links accordingly in three election templates, so I thought, but they're still showing the old link in Perren Baker. What gives? Clarityfiend (talk) 21:37, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

WP:PURGE may be what you're looking for. -- The Voidwalker Whispers 21:58, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I though exiting Firefox would do that, but I guess not. It's fine now. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:00, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

February 2[edit]

Referencing errors on Edhir Paradhathu[edit]

Reference help requested. There is an error message in a Reference Archive URL on the page Edhir Paradhathu. The date of archive is not known. But the error message says archive date is required.

This is the reference text:
cite web|url=http://dff.nic.in/2011/2nd_nff_1955.pdf%7Ctitle=2nd National Film Awards|publisher=Directorate of Film Festivals|accessdate=23 August 2011|format=PDF|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20160303233325/http://dff.nic.in/2011/2nd_nff_1955.pdf

Thank you to help me to resolve this. Thanks, --00:47, 2 February 2017 (UTC)UKSharma3

Uksharma3, I fixed it with this edit by adding the date that is in the web.archive.org URL, 3 March 2016. †dismas†|(talk) 00:55, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Now I learned how to find the archive date from the URL. --UKSharma3 01:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Contributions not reassigned after username change[edit]

Hey, I was recently granted a username change but my contributions have not been reassigned from the old account to the new one. Wikipedia:Changing username says it can take a number of hours but it's been a number of days. Who can I talk to about this? Dscosson (talk) 03:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@Dscosson: What was the old name? I couldn't find a rename for Dscosson. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:53, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter:Nevermind. I am a moron. Dscosson (talk) 16:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Fleischer family[edit]

max fleischer said to be born in krakau, 1883 - his brother david said to be born in new york 1884 - family said to have migrated to the usa 1879 - some inconsistency is all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.35.129 (talk) 08:39, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Articles say :- Max Fleischer, b. 1883, family emigrated 1887. Dave Fleischer, b. 1894 (not 1884). Eagleash (talk) 08:52, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Reviewing?[edit]

Every now and then I receive a notification stating that an article I created God knows when "has been reviewed". I'm not on Wikipedia as much as I used to be, so...what does that mean? Erpert blah, blah, blah... 12:28, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey Erpert. When a new article is created it gets added to a list of "unreviewed articles" that then get "reviewed" by a volunteer at Wikipedia:New pages patrol. These volunteers are checking to make sure that the new article doesn't meet criteria for speedy deletion or other deletion criteria, and make sure that, if it has specific problems, like no sources, no links from other articles, etc.. that those problems are either fixed or tagged for cleanup at a future date. Once an article is reviewed, it gets added to the pool of articles that are indexed by computer thingies (close enough), and can then be searched for using engines like Google. TimothyJosephWood 14:23, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Adding an external link to a page[edit]

I need assistance in adding a link or reference source to a page and am unable to figure out how do to this can someone assist me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crossways8 (talkcontribs) 13:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi! Can you share a link to your page so we can see what's going on? Thanks! --McDoobAU93 13:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Can I Use Images from Game Developer Website?[edit]

Hi,

I searched for the information about what images I could use on the Wikipedia page I am writing, but want to make sure I understand what I've read. I'm writing about a new mobile game and wanted to know if I could use the images of artwork, screenshots and icons from the developer's website on my Wikipedia page, or should I use my own screenshots from the game?

Thanks, Lab Ratat (talk) 13:52, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi there! This page will give some details on how to use screenshots in articles on software. Since it's most likely showing copyrighted content, it would have to have a fair-use claim and proper attribution, as well. You can get information on that here. Hope that helps! --McDoobAU93 13:57, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

How does wikidata get put into articles?[edit]

A general question, but here is an example - in the article TiddlyWiki, the infobox includes 'repository' and 'website' info but I can't find that info in the edit source text. I presume that this information is coming from wikidata (as I can find it there) but how does it get into the wikipedia article? According to Wikipedia:Wikidata, either a parser function or a lua module can be used, but I can't find either one in the TiddlyWiki article. Can someone explain? Leschnei (talk) 14:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

In this case the Wikidata information is imported through Template:Infobox software. You will find that the use of infoboxes to import data from Wikidata (and thus put the information outside the control of the English Wikipedia) does meet with some opposition. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:55, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Apart from Wikidata descriptions automatically displayed next to the page name by some features (mainly on the mobile version), Wikidata info nearly always comes via code in a used template. It can both be infoboxes, external link templates and others in Category:Templates using data from Wikidata. It's very rare for an article to have its own code to import from Wikidata. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you both for your explanations and the links. I can see why having data imported automatically is controversial; it is rather disturbing. Leschnei (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Referencing errors on CafePress[edit]

Reference help requested. I tried to add a citation pointing to the CafePress web site but it is black listed to prevent link spamming so I removed the "http://" and then I got an automated message from ReferenceBot telling me that the url is malformed. Don't know enough about citations to figure out a different way to add the text of the url without making it a link and thereby causing it to fail the blacklist check. Thanks, Andrew S. (talk) 14:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Andrew S.:Not sure why you got a blacklist message, but the url parameter does need to be in the form of "http://", rather than "www". I made an edit to fix the citation format. One of the three refs had a url on the company site that I couldn't find, so I cut it. You can see the change I made here. DonFB (talk) 23:15, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Central login[edit]

Is it possible to turn off central login somewhere in the settings? I have a different username on Commons and Wikipedia, so I'm constantly signing in and out, and would prefer to just stay signed in with each username on the two different projects. Calibrador (talk) 14:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

I don't think it's possible as suggested. A user script might log you out and in automatically. I have very limited JavaScript knowledge but this in Special:MyPage/skin.js for the unwanted account should at least log you out and go to the login page:
$(document).ready(function() {
  location = mw.util.wikiGetlink('Special:UserLogout');
  location = mw.util.wikiGetlink('Special:UserLogin');
});
It doesn't return you to the page you were at before logging out. Your JavaScript doesn't run on Mobile so you can still log in there and change the script if needed. Administrators can also edit your js pages if all goes wrong, and you may be able to enter your preferences or script page with ?useskin=monobook or &useskin=monobook in the url if your normal skin is vector, or vice versa. An alternative is to have two open browsers, one for each wiki, but this may be as much work as logging in and out. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:40, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Do wikipedia images appear in google searches[edit]

Hello. I work for a local county government. Currently, when you google search our county name, statistics appear to right on your screen about the county. These statistics come from Wikipedia. There also is a picture and a map above the statistics.

The picture that is currently displayed is not an appropriate image to display. I contacted Google, who informed me that Wikipedia controls that information and to contact them.

How do I get that picture changed?

Thank you, Candace — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierce911 (talkcontribs) 15:17, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@Pierce911: You probably got wrong information from Google (we have heard that before) but I cannot say for certain without knowing what you searched. I guess this stock reply applies:
Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
  • @Pierce911: It would help if you provided your county name. Even better, if you know for sure that the image is from Wikipedia, can you provide a link to it? TigraanClick here to contact me 16:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia article Mark Normand[edit]

Mark Normand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I created a Wikipedia article on American comedian Mark Normand and it has still not been reviewed.I request eligible Wikipedia editors to review it please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tosh lo (talkcontribs) 16:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

There are 16111 pages in the queue awaiting review, so the backlog is just over four months. You may, perhaps, be lucky and find that your article is reviewed earlier. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
You ought to review the sourcing of the article. What Wikipedia needs, to demonstrate notability, is significant coverage in published independent reliable sources. Wikipedia wants to know what sources such as reputable newspapers have said about the subject, not what he has said about himself. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

editing Nexsan page[edit]

We are trying to edit our Nexsan page so it is more up to date, however, we're unsure about the guidelines on what to post. We don't mean to be promotional, can you let us know what would be acceptable. Here is what we are planning to post: "Nexsan is a multinational corporation that sells hybrid data storage hardware and software and recently partnered with Spear Point Capital. Bob Fernander and Geoff Barrall run the Nexsan business as Chief Executive Officer and Chief Operating Officer of Nexsan, respectively. Nexsan has built a reputation for highly reliable, cost-effective storage designed to serve specific use cases and business demands for over 15 years. Nexsan creates storage for IT professionals who demand storage suited to their specific needs." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aepilk (talkcontribs) 16:57, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

The concepts of the sentences up to the work "respectively" would be fine, though probably should be rephrased. The two sentences after that are not encyclopedic. (Though the fact that the company has been around for 15 years should be included, but simply as a statement of when the company started. Please see WP:OWN, but asking on the help page is a good first step. I'd suggest adding the information that you want changed, specifically with references for the positions held by Mr. Barrall and Mr. Fernander to the talk page for the article. (Also pinging Excirial since they seem to have reverted promotional changes to the page more than once)Naraht (talk) 17:17, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

A-Class question[edit]

How does one appropriately get an article reviewed for WP:ACLASS status from two uninvolved editors? The instructions aren't very clear.--Nevéselbert 20:03, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

A class is a virtually unused category anyway. TimothyJosephWood 20:07, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
TJW is right. Anyway I'm not sure you can get to A without going through GA. Just nominate for GA, if you think it's ready. Or, to be honest, don't bother with any of this. GA is backlogged for years, and FA seems way too rulebound. Develop quality articles and take satisfaction in knowing readers appreciate what you've done. The only time I even bother with GA is to get an article into WP:DYK that's too old for DYK's newness rule and already too big for its expansion rule. EEng 18:58, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

My tools menu[edit]

Something has happened to my tools menu that makes certain tools disappear for article space entries.

On this page my tools are as follows:

What links here Related changes Upload file Special pages Page information Wikidata item Collapsible option ALL dates to dmy ALL dates to mdy Body dates to dmy Body dates to mdy Body+pub dates to dmy Body+pub dates to mdy ISO to dmy ISO to mdy access 2 ISO Del year-in-X dates Expand ref dates Expand all dates Abbrev ref dates US-slash dates UK-slash dates Find redirects Sort words

When I am in article space my tools are as follows:

What links here Related changes Upload file Special pages Permanent link Page information Wikidata item Cite this page Highlight duplicate links DYK check Collapsible option

What is going on?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:37, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@TonyTheTiger: Some of your JavaScript is failing in article space, maybe due to an error in code which is only activated in article space and prevents the following code from running. What is your skin? Are the dates to dmy tools missing at both https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?useskin=vector and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?useskin=monobook. What is your tools menu in userspace when you view User:TonyTheTiger/common.js? Is "Permanent link" really missing on this page but present in articles? It should always be present in read mode and always be missing in edit mode so did you list your article tools in read mode and the tools here in edit mode? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:43, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
PrimeHunter, How do I know what my skin is? Yes the dmy tools are missing on both of those pages. In userspace my tools menu is

What links here Related changes User contributions Logs Email this user View user groups Upload file Special pages Permanent link Page information Highlight duplicate links Collapsible option DYK check Find disambiguations Find redirects Sort words

Those were both read modes. Yes Permanent links is really missing here.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@TonyTheTiger: Your skin is at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering, probably Vector or MonoBook. Do you see "Permanent link" here if you log out? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:51, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
PrimeHunter Vector. If I log out, my only tools are:

Upload file Special pages Printable version --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:10, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

@TonyTheTiger: That sounds like the logut screen or another special page. I mean what you see on articles when you are logged out. Do you have the dates to dmy on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?useskin=modern or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?useskin=cologneblue? And what is your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

changing user name[edit]

Is it possible to change my user name?

John Xander — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnMarcKentJeff (talkcontribs) 20:43, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, see WP:CHU. Pppery 20:52, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

/* Biography */ correcting a factual error in the entry for Manolo Blahnik[edit]

I've made a slight correction to the entry for Manolo Blahnik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manolo_Blahnik but I've clearly misunderstood how to put in references, as there are problems with footnotes 4 and 5

The reference for footnote 4 (presently empty) is: http://www.vogue.co.uk/gallery/collectible-and-iconic-vogue-covers

The reference for footnote 5 (partly there) is: http://michellephan.com/5-favorites-iconic-vintage-magazine-covers/

SarahAnnM (talk) 21:18, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Rather than "urlhttp://..." it should be "url=http://...". --David Biddulph (talk) 21:28, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Infobox template[edit]

Hello. I've taken the time to create this subsection of the help desk because I need some finding a page that explains or displays the template for the infobox. I've already looked over the page for infoboxes, but could not find anything that I could definitively make heads or tails of. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Boomer VialHolla 22:53, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

It would depend which type of infobox you are referring to. There are many variations on the i/bx and each has its own template and template/documentation. For example Template:Infobox football biography. Eagleash (talk) 23:05, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
A useful page may be Wikipedia:List of infoboxes. Deor (talk) 23:50, 2 February 2017 (UTC)


February 3[edit]

How to edit the article description that can be seen in wikipedia app?[edit]

When I access the page Electric locomotive, I see there is a description under the article title that say "Locomotive powered by an external source of electrivity". However, as I believe the explanation is not accurate in the sense that locomotives powered by on board batteries are also electric locomotives, I tried to edit the page to remove the word external source from that description. However, I can't find out which part of the page I should edit to change that description and I can't find the description on desktop version wikipedia either. How should I edit that and where can I read it on desktop? C933103 (talk) 00:11, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Seems this is a popular topic this week. C933103, see the response up above at WP:HD#Summaries at the top of the page when viewing on mobile. †dismas†|(talk) 00:12, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
The feature was enabled on the English Wikipedia mobile version 20 January 2017. Maybe it should be added to a FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah I see, thanks. If those summaries are deemed useful, I think it would be a good idea to display them in desktop and mobile browser version too?C933103 (talk) 01:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
See the top of WP:VPT for how to make a feature request. †dismas†|(talk) 01:03, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Best way to cite a FRA Accident report.[edit]

I am editing the page List of rail accidents (2010–present). I want to expand one of the incidents (13 May 2010 – United States) with information I found on the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) website. I am running into an issue as to how to write the citation. As far as I can tell, the FRA receives reports from the railroads involved, and then publishes those aggregated reports.

While it is on the web, there is no simple URL I can provide that will link to the data. You have to go to a FRA site, fill out a form and submit the form to get the data back.

There also is no single identification number that I see that would uniquely identify the incident or the report. There are two report numbers, but they seem to be numbers assigned by the reporting railroads, not the FRA.

So that you can see what I am dealing with, here are the steps I used to get the report data I want to use:

  1. go to 3.11 - Accident Detail Report and fill out the form as follows:
    1. State: North Carolina
    2. Passenger Trains Only: Yes
    3. Search Time Frame: 2010 and May
  2. Click "Generate Report"

Any ideas? --Arg342 (talk) 01:11, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I found the reference from your description without any difficulties and, yes, there doesn't seem to be any URL. You can add a searching description to a normal reference. Something like:
<ref>{{cite web|title=3.11 - Accident Detail Report|url=http://safetydata.fra.dot.gov/officeofsafety/publicsite/Query/incrpt.aspx|website=safetydata.fra.dot.gov|publisher=Fereral Railroad Administration Office of Safety Analysis|accessdate=3 February 2017|at=Search for North Carolina, passenger trains only, 2010, May|language=en}}</ref>[1]

References

  1. ^ "3.11 - Accident Detail Report". safetydata.fra.dot.gov. Fereral Railroad Administration Office of Safety Analysis. Search for North Carolina, passenger trains only, 2010, May. Retrieved 3 February 2017. 
Would that do? Thincat (talk) 08:49, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah, using the at parameter to specify search parameters. That had not occurred to me! Very clever. I think it will do nicely. Many thanks!
I may also add that idea to the instructions for the cite web template.--Arg342 (talk) 12:16, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
This is now being discussed at Help talk:Citation Style 1#Use of at parameter to specify web searches where there is no direct URL to source material.--Arg342 (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Hereditary peer[edit]

Ref. number 6 is all wrong. Please note that I did not add this ref. thanks Srbernadette (talk) 01:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Eagleash (talk) 02:05, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

The existing citation redirected to a general info page; an Archive url shows the specific information expected. Corrected with this edit. DonFB (talk) 02:29, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Ta, I was looking for that but had to give up (RL). Don't suppose it matters greatly but the title is now incorrect as it is correpondence (no 'S') in the source which is what the 'sic' in the 'old' reference indicated. I.e. something that looks wrong but is in fact correct. Eagleash (talk) 02:37, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I could not see what "sic" was supposed to be referring to, nor was there evidence of an "author" "Mosley," so I dropped both in a follow-up edit to the citation. DonFB (talk) 02:56, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I see. "Correspondence" was misspelled. DonFB (talk) 03:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
More importantly, the {{sic}} template is not to be used in cs1|2 templates because it corrupts the citation's metadata (this is stated right at the top of the {{sic}} template documentation). This:
{{sic|nolink=y|correpondence}}
produces this:
correpondence&#32;&#91;''sic''&#93;
which becomes part of the citation's title metadata as:
&rft.btitle=Forms+of+Address+for+use+orally+and+in+correpondence%26%2332%3B%26%2391%3Bsic%26%2393%3B
clearly a corrupted title.
The correct solutions are either to silently correct the spelling in the citation or to leave it as is.
Is this one of those British v. American spelling differences?
Trappist the monk (talk) 04:03, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

A little DAB page help needed, please[edit]

I'm a longtime wikieditor who rarely creates articles anymore, but I've come across a notable American woman author/editor who deserves an article: Margaret Cousins (1905-1996). I can create easily the article with no help, and I've found plenty of good sources, but there's already an existing article on Margaret Cousins, an unrelated Irish-Indian suffragette (1878-1954). Could someone more up to speed on creating DAB links kindly resolve this problem for me? I'm content for the existing Margaret Cousins to remain the primary article. Thanks in advance. Textorus (talk) 02:51, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Hi Textorus, disambiguation pages only assist in navigation and their absence does not impinge upon your ability to create a new article. You could create the new article under the name Margaret Cousins (senator) or under any other name, while distinguishing her from the original article. I've used senator as an example. You could replace that with your subject's most distinguishing notability. Hope this helps. Lourdes 03:14, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Thanks, Lourdes, I didn't think of that. I'll go create the article now. Textorus (talk) 03:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
      • Textorus: you could then add a hatnote per WP:SIMILAR to both pages. (That option is described in Lourdes' link, though buried fairly deep.) TigraanClick here to contact me 08:55, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
        • Exactly, yes - thank you, Tigraan. I'm delayed now by chores/errands but that's what I'll do when I get the article posted. Textorus (talk) 04:00, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

User is reverting edits without engaging in discussion[edit]

A user User:FreeKnowledgeCreator keeps reverting my edits to Holocaust_denial and David Irving, immediately after I have made them, without read or responding to my arguments on their talk pages. When I have explained my reasons for the edits, he argues WP:FORUM seemingly to avoid discussing it further. His reverts are reinstating material which is not WP:NPOV, and also implies a personal attack (e.g. antisemitism), which stifles debate on the subject and has a "chilling effect". The talk page at Holocaust_denial explains my reason for the edits, but so far his arguments have not really explained his reasons for adding the material he is adding. --Rebroad (talk) 08:36, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Anyone who looks through the talk pages and the revision histories of those two articles will find that Rebroad is making disruptive edits that are supported by literally no one other than him. In Holocaust denial, in particular, there is a clear consensus against his changes, but Rebroad has continued making them anyway. His edits to talk pages are increasingly running afoul of WP:NOTFORUM, as he is effectively trying to use them to try to debate the issues of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial, and promote his personal views on these and related subjects. A block would be in order if the user persists in all this. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 08:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Technically, it's Rebroad who started the edit war with this edit.
In any case, this looks like a content issue; please follow WP:DR and do not argue it on the Help Desk. I am fairly sure you know the place to go if there are conduct issues. TigraanClick here to contact me 08:51, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Any option or paid services?[edit]

hi is there any option or any paid services on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.199.18.162 (talk)

  • No. You might want to consider donating to the Wikimedia Foundation, but it entails no advantage whatsoever. You can also register an account for free, which has some "options" that can not be accessed without it, but nothing like a "premium package". TigraanClick here to contact me 11:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Personal profile amendment[edit]

Hey Cam and Wikipedia team

First of all thanks for the work you do on wikipedia - we couldn't have this amazing resource without get efforts of you and your fellow scrutineers

Secondly; one of the many pages you have edited is the page for minor Australian media celebrity Adam Spencer. I am him. There is an edit as to my marital status that I've tried to post a couple of times. I am now separated from my wife. Melanie. Each time I've posted. Such it's been removed. How do I get this edit to stay on my page?

I'm at www.adamspencer.com.au and would love to connect

Adam s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.203.196 (talk) 11:09, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I have replied to this on the WP:Teahouse. Please do not post questions in two different places. --ColinFine (talk) 12:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Nishanth[edit]

Hi,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishanth The above link is my article which has been deleted . I am an actor in tamil film industry . I have also send you the details of my previous films where you could find my Name under casting,please help me to create an article on "NISHANTH" so i could link all the wiki articles to my profile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renigunta_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoonga_Nagaram https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naan_Rajavaga_Pogiren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_(2016_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazhaya_Vannarapettai

Thank you Nishanth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yugimrlonely (talkcontribs) 12:18, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

However, we don't just create articles about any possible subject. The topic of articles has to be "notable", which means (very roughly) "already covered by external sources".
For this reason, you are strongly discouraged to create a page about yourself. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Deleted 4 times at Nishanth (but not necessarily the same subject), and twice at Nishanth (actor) with a speedy deletion nomination for the 3rd incarnation. The latter, as well as the draft at Draft:Nishanth, has no references, so no evidence of notability. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:59, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

NBRC-ELE and NBRC-WRE[edit]

I work for the NBRC and the title of the NBRC-ELE page needs to change to NBRC-TMC and the NBRC-WRE needs to be deleted. The NBRC-ELE and NBRC-WRE were merged into one exam, the NBRC-TMC. I am updating the pages to reflect this change.

Jennifer Banek Examinations Coordinator for the NBRC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watcher303 (talkcontribs) 15:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Convenience links: National Board for Respiratory Care, NBRC-ELE, NBRC-WRE.

Tool to sort category by article size?[edit]

Is there a tool that will list the articles in a category sorted by size of the article? (I don't know of one but I'd feel silly if the only reason I never found it is because I never asked.) Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 16:09, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I don't know such a tool. An incategory: search like incategory:"Jazz events" will display the size. It's not sorted but may be better than nothing. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello @RJFJR:, PetScan has the ability to sort its output depending on article size (and to restrict the list with specified size limits). I just tested the sort feature with a small cat, and it seems to work fine. GermanJoe (talk) 16:30, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! I'm glad I asked. RJFJR (talk) 18:08, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

NFL Kickoff[edit]

Can you fix the article on NFL Kickoff please I put Sept 7 that's when the pats or falcons host the kickoff game on NBC fix it please. 2600:8803:7A00:19:6DB1:E944:6CF6:6B48 (talk) 23:24, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I think you meant that the table was broken in the National Football League Kickoff game article. If so, I fixed it here. You just needed to look at the way the rest of the code is laid out. You would have seen what was missing. †dismas†|(talk) 23:47, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


February 4[edit]

External link to article[edit]

I added the article on https://academic.oup.com/jxb/article-lookup/doi/10.1093/jxb/erp043 as an external link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_known_knowns but don't appear to have added it correctly. Mcljlm (talk) 02:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Resolved

Several subsequent edits have formatted the link. Eagleash (talk) 20:24, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Alexander Agassiz[edit]

Reference help requested. I made an empty citation by mistake, and couldn't figure out how to delete it. How can I clean that up? Thanks, 72.70.58.181 (talk) 03:43, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Alexander Agassiz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Another editor fixed this just after you posted here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:28, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Is there a way to hide edits from watchlist that got reverted[edit]

Is there? Bertdrunk (talk) 04:16, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ruy Lopez[edit]

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Asmund.skalevik (talk) 05:58, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

There was a misunderstanding of the variant names, Modern Steinitz and Steinitz Deferred, therefore I renamed the headers. I apologize any cite errors introduced and hope they will be corrected by someone.

A bot fixed a ref error at about 1AM (UTC). There weren't any errors introduced in OP's subsequent edits AFAICT and there don't seem to be any error messages showing at present. Eagleash (talk) 13:30, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

multiple and multiply nested refs[edit]

I've been editing Christopher Columbus, and I noticed that under "Relatives | Brothers:" the infobox listed

Giacomo (also called Diego)[1],

References

  1. ^ Wikisource-logo.svg Gilman, D. C.; Thurston, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbus, Diego. The youngest brother of Christopher Columbus". New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.). New York: Dodd, Mead. 

As a linguist, I knew that the names Giacomo (Italian) and Diego (Spanish) are related to each other and to the English name James. That seemed relevant to mention, because the alternate names for this son of an Italian working for Spain are not arbitrary, as a pen name can be (e.g., "Mark Twain" for Samuel Clemens). I found good sources at the website Behind the Name, on the pages for the three names.

At first I tried to incorporate the refs into an explanatory footnote ({{efn-ua}}) after the ref that was already on the line, but that meant nesting three separate footnotes into the efn— even more complex, nesting within nesting like a matryoshka, if I used {{cite web}}, as I prefer to do. I tried {{refn}} but couldn't get it to work. Finally I settled on sticking them into the ref in-line, after the existing {{cite NIE}} (my addition in boldface):

<ref>{{Cite NIE| wstitle=Columbus, Diego (brother) |display=Columbus, Diego. The youngest brother of Christopher Columbus}} — The names Giacomo and Diego are cognates, along with James, all sharing a common origin. See Behind the Name, Mike Campbell, pages Giacomo, Diego, and James. All retrieved 2017-02-03.</ref>

So now it comes out like this:

Giacomo (also called Diego)[1]

References

  1. ^ Wikisource-logo.svg Gilman, D. C.; Thurston, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbus, Diego. The youngest brother of Christopher Columbus". New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.). New York: Dodd, Mead.  — The names Giacomo and Diego are cognates, along with James, all sharing a common origin. See Behind the Name, Mike Campbell, pages Giacomo, Diego, and James. All retrieved 2017-02-03.

One other issue here that I've been running into elsewhere as well is citing several pages from the same website using the informative {{cite web}}, without copying the whole citation for each one. Often, as here, the only differences are the url and title parameters. The only template like that that I know of is {{rp}}, which doesn't suit this case.

Is there a better way to handle either of these problems? That is, nesting a ref inside an explanatory footnote, and citing different pages of the same website when the differences are as minimal as they are here? Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 06:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Thnidu On your first conundrum: it seems that {{refn}} should work. An experiment to try to obtain something like what I think you were aiming at yielded the following:
Markup Renders as
text text{{refn|{{Cite NIE| wstitle=Columbus, Diego (brother) |display=Columbus, Diego. The youngest brother of Christopher Columbus}}{{refn|group=upper-alpha|The names Giacomo and Diego are cognates, along with James, all sharing a common origin. {{refn|Behind the Name, Mike Campbell, pages [http://www.behindthename.com/name/Giacomo Giacomo], [http://www.behindthename.com/name/Diego Diego], and [http://www.behindthename.com/name/James James]. All retrieved 2017-02-03.}} }} }}

====References====
{{reflist}}

''Notes on the references''
{{reflist|group=upper-alpha}}

text text[2]

References

  1. ^ Behind the Name, Mike Campbell, pages Giacomo, Diego, and James. All retrieved 2017-02-03.
  2. ^ Wikisource-logo.svg Gilman, D. C.; Thurston, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbus, Diego. The youngest brother of Christopher Columbus". New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.). New York: Dodd, Mead. [A]

Notes on the references

  1. ^ The names Giacomo and Diego are cognates, along with James, all sharing a common origin. [1]
(We cannot stop Ref 1 coming above Ref 2 as far as I know). The "how-to" page WP:Nesting footnotes suggests some ways to handle nested-reference situations. Hope this helps: Noyster (talk), 19:34, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Newly registered editor copying my username exactly[edit]

I have a problem with a newly registered editor who is using a name almost exactly the same as mine. The account for User:Ryecatcher733 (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ryecatcher733) has basically been created within the past several hours and is editing the Linndale, Ohio in a disruptive manner. Thank you in advance for looking into this. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 08:33, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Reported to WP:AIV; obviously not here as someone with a merely coincidental username. WP:UAA would usually be where I'd take this but AIV is faster in this case since the disruption continues. Nate (chatter) 10:44, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
And Materialscientist (talk · contribs) has blocked that user on those grounds. Nate (chatter) 10:46, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Phabricator[edit]

Hello! Would somebody like to help me submit a proposal to Phabricator? What I would like to suggest is adding the option "upright" to the editor surface function "embedded file" (for all Wikipedia versions, of course!). I'd be grateful for any help since I'm not familiar to how Phabricator actually works and I admittedly find it a bit confusing for somebody not on the inside – though I do think that the community could in fact benefit from my idea... Hoping for your cooperation, best greetings--Hubon (talk) 13:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ma-i[edit]

Reference help requested.

Hi.

ReferenceBot (?)'s message said that

"On the Ma-i page, your edit caused a broken reference name ."

I'd correct this, but I can't quite see where the error is. Any chance someone could help me find and correct it, please?

Thanks, Alternativity (talk) 14:43, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

If you look at your edit you will see that the error is reported in ref 12 in that version. Your change had introduced extra quote marks into the reference name. The error has been corrected in subsequent edits. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Move draft sandbox article to main Wikipedia[edit]

Hi, I was working on an article in Sandbox entitled 'Creamware' (the pottery type). It's ready now but I don't know how to move it to Wikipedia - I just moved it to the wrong place Wikipedia:Creamware (???) when I was actually trying to replace the existing STUB ('Creamware') with my new Article. I'm still fairly new to this, so help would be appreciated! Many thanks, JasperWare (talk) 16:34, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for coming here JasperWare and asking for this to be put right. The page is now safely back in your user space under User:JasperWare/Creamware. Now about the existing article: we generally don't overwrite material other editors have contributed, assuming it's of acceptable quality and in line with policies. The current article looks OK to build on and the material you have compiled would make a valuable major expansion: so could I suggest you try to 'seamlessly' integrate your contribution with what's there?: Noyster (talk), 18:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Notifying Nv8200pa and Wetman, the majorest contributors to the present article: Noyster (talk), 20:06, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Category:Articles_with_a_promotional_tone[edit]

I think that articles with the COI tag should be included in this category, as usually conflict of interest editors make articles promotional of something or someone in some way. CoolieCoolster (talk) 16:58, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes, but often not. There is an overlap, but they are not the same thing.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:10, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

I would like to know if it is possible to correct an internal link to another wikipedia page. This is the first task I am attempting as an editor. The link in question (on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSB) is, I guess, automatically generated by enclosing a keyword in brackets: GluR2. This is found in the table titled "Neural and behavioral effects of validated ΔFosB transcriptional targets", derived from Reference 15.

When clicked this takes the reader to an incorrect page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabotropic_glutamate_receptor_2), instead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRIA2. GRIA2 is the new correct name for the GluR2 subunit of the AMPA receptor (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMPA_receptor#Subunit_composition). The confusion has no doubt arisen because this protein, like many others, has been renamed.

If you need confirmation that the link should be to the AMPA receptor subunit, this can be found in reference 15:

Review. Transcriptional mechanisms of addiction: role of DeltaFosB - Nestler EJ, 2008 [1]

In the discussion of table 3 (the table featured on the Wikipedia page), page 3249: "Several target genes of DFosB have been established using a candidate gene approach (table 3). One candidate gene is GluR2, an alpha-amino-3-hydroxy- 5-methyl-4-isoxazolepropionic acid (AMPA) glutamate receptor subunit (Kelz et al. 1999)."

I suppose this also begs the question - how do you specify a certain page in a link that appears to be automatically generated, when disambiguation must be a common problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonCollier (talkcontribs) 21:19, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

References