![](http://web.archive.org./web/20170202142858im_/http://dynimages.themotorreport.com.au:80/zF6u9hoHSZsfPLBxCb96sunGnqg=/fit-in/800x600/filters:stretch(FFFFFF)/editorial/articleLeadwide-kia-carnival-platinum-reigns-supreme-when-hauling-giqgya.jpg)
The dilemma
Jean-Pierre is expecting his sixth grandchild soon but his Honda Odyssey is already at capacity with two adults and five grandkids on board. He needs an eight-seater that can deal with four children in restraints, plus an eight and six-year-old, but isn't sure where to start.
The budget
About $60,000
The shortlist
There aren't an awful lot of eight-seaters on the market and even fewer if you ignore heavy-duty 4WDs like Toyota's LandCruiser and Nissan's Patrol (Jean-Pierre has no off-road ambitions and we reckon he could do without lifting children up into a bulky, high-riding package).
The list shrinks even more if you sidestep Hyundai's iMax (it's functional but a bit crude) or - like this scenario - need a minimum of four child-restraint anchor points (goodbye to Toyota's Tarago, which has only three).
People-hauling versions of VW's new T6 Transporter, meanwhile, aren't on sale in Australia quite yet, so are an unknown quantity for now.
Honda Odyssey VTi, from $37,610
The Odyssey, like Jean-Pierre's earlier model, is more car-like to drive and easier to handle in tight urban spaces than most people movers.
The cabin adds more space and seating for eight to its renowned user-friendliness, plus five anchor points for good measure.
Its mandatory petrol four-cylinder drivetrain is reasonably thrifty, its quality obvious and Honda caps service costs for five years/100,000km.
But the eight-seat capacity only applies to the base VTi and, in this company, the cabin is a little cramped. None of the anchor points are Isofix, and the roof-mounted second row's can make access to the third row tricky.
It's unintimidating to drive but some of the flair of its predecessors has been lost, and its fully-loaded performance isn't snappy. Six-monthly/10,000km service intervals mean more visits to the dealer (and cost) than with many alternatives.
Read Drive's Honda Odyssey reviews:
Honda Odyssey VTi road test
Kia Carnival Platinum, from $58,290
This Kia has more cabin and boot space than an Odyssey, plus a more convenient array of anchor points (three Isofix, four top-tether).
It also avoids that cars spec/seating limitations, so Jean-Pierre can target the topline Platinum with its many luxuries and safety trinkets.
Its petrol engine (a V6) has more to offer in the fully-loaded role and a diesel can be specified to optimise low-rev shove and economy.
It's covered by a seven-years/unlimited km warranty and service costs are fixed for seven years/105,000km (with yearly/15,000km intervals).
But the Carnival's bulk is felt around town and through the bends.
Read Drive's Kia Carnival reviews:
Kia Carnival Platinum diesel road test
Mercedes-Benz Valente, from $56,380
This Mercedes has bags of space, bags of seats (nine if you tick the box for the front bench-seat option) and this group's most plentiful supply of child-restraint anchor points (six, plus four Isofix).
Its diesel engine is strong and frugal, and it drives better than a dressed-up commercial van should. It's a Benz for about the price of a range-topping Carnival, which is tempting.
But you'll be resorting to the options list for something as fundamental as a reversing camera (standard on the other cars here) and Benz's fixed-price servicing deals are pre-paid rather than pay as you go.
It's commercial roots aren't always far from the surface, whether it's the cabin's hard-wearing ambience (Benz's luxury-orientated V250d people mover fixes this but has an $80k-plus starter and only seats seven) or the lack of user-friendly foldaway seating solutions like its rivals here.
Read Drive's Mercedes-Benz Valente reviews:
Mercedes-Benz Vito first drive
Mercedes-Benz V250d road test
Drive recommends
The Kia rides to the points victory on the back of this group's happy functional/driving medium, better value than the Valente, a more appropriate budget/trim balance than the Odyssey and a better ownership pitch than both.
Or they can choose between opposing but equally fundamental compromises.
The Honda is a people mover for those who don't want to feel like they're driving a people mover but can struggle when stretched to the limit of its people-carrying abilities. The Benz makes light work of bus duties but at the cost of sometimes being the most bus-like when you don't want it to.
3 Comments
The article is out of date. 17 March 2016: Kia Carnival achieves 5 stars after another round of updates https://www.ancap.com.au/media-and-gallery/releases/kia-carnival-achieves-5-stars-after-another-round-of-updates
How about considering a Tesla Model X? With a little budget extension, he could buy a comfortable, luxurious and Eco-friendly vehicle that looks could and is fast. With 8 seats assembled it is still very spacious and comfortable, and is also incredibly quick and nimble. It is also smaller than a Kia Carnival and more practical than a Kia Carnival. And at just $120,000, it couldn't get any better!
Have a rat through eBay and buy a late model Nissan Elgrand, the most luxurious piece of people moving equipment on the road. My wife updates hers regularly and she's on her fourth one.